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jmcquown - 05 Mar 2008 19:01 GMT
Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative Bodywork
Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It said they are
sorry for her loss but maybe the enclosed 10% off coupon her for her first
visit would make her feel better!  (Apparently they do massage therapies.)

Can you believe the nerve of these people?!  Trolling death notices and
using them to drum up business?!  (They're no better than ambulance - or in
this case hearse - chasers!)  It's not often I get truly angry.  This did
it!

Fortunately, they have a web site.  Even more fortunately, they have a
Contact Us link, which made it very easy for me to tell them exactly what I
thought of them.  This behavior is lower than low.  It's crass, crude and
callous.  Completely insensitive.  They've only been in business since 2007;
I hope it tanks.

Jill
GaDragonfly - 05 Mar 2008 19:56 GMT
> Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative Bodywork
> Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It said they are
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Jill

That's rude and crude, without a doubt, and doubly so considering
where they are located. Obviously they're not from around that area
which is truly the "gracious south".  Jill, I haven't been around
lately and haven't sent my condolences to you. I've been thinking of
you and sending purrs. The cats send gentle headbutts. A comment that
someone recently made has stuck in my mind.  Something along the lines
of being glad you were there with your father at the end. I think more
than that, you'll never really realize what being there has given you,
but in years to come you'll never regret that you weren't there.
You'll never have to regret that you didn't put your life on hold for
a short time to give your parents the care and love that they needed
at this time. Good for you, girl, you make me proud.

Hugs,
Julie, and headbutts from Hobbes, Lacey, Sam and Barnabus
Outsider - 05 Mar 2008 20:06 GMT
> Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
> Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Jill

They've what?  Gotten business this way?!  Ewwwww....
jofirey - 06 Mar 2008 04:47 GMT
>> Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
>> Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> They've what?  Gotten business this way?!  Ewwwww....

Of course they have.  Good way to reel in lonely widowers looking for a bit
more than just a massage.

Jo
Joy - 05 Mar 2008 20:08 GMT
> Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
> Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It said
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Jill

Good for you!  They should tank, with scummy techniques like that!

Joy
bobblespin - 05 Mar 2008 21:40 GMT
> Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
> Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Jill

Tacky indeed!  Reminds me of the funeral parlor handing my husband an
envelope as we left for the cemetary after the service for his father.  It
was the bill.

Bobble
Kyla  =^..^= - 05 Mar 2008 21:51 GMT
"bobblespin"
> "jmcquown" >
>> Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> ambulance - or in this case hearse - chasers!)  It's not often I get
>> truly angry.  This did it!

Those bas**rds!!!

>> Fortunately, they have a web site.  Even more fortunately, they have a
>> Contact Us link, which made it very easy for me to tell them exactly
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>> Jill

Ooooo, me too, that is sick and wrong IMO!!!

> Tacky indeed!  Reminds me of the funeral parlor handing my husband an
> envelope as we left for the cemetary after the service for his father.  It
> was the bill.
>
> Bobble

Ooooo, another sick and wrong thing.
What is wrong with some people?
It's all about the money.
I'm sorry for your DH's loss.

HUGS to both of you
Kyla
jofirey - 06 Mar 2008 04:48 GMT
>> Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
>> Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Bobble

Usually they expect payment ahead of time.

Jo
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 05 Mar 2008 22:27 GMT
> Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
> Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It said
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and callous.  Completely insensitive.  They've only been in business since
> 2007; I hope it tanks.

The same thing happened to my dad after Mom died last year.  It's unreal
what people will do for businesses.  Dad threatened to sue one if they
didn't stop trying to contact him.

It's tacky and so sad. :(

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> Jill
Kreisleriana - 05 Mar 2008 23:29 GMT
> Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
> Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It said
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Jill

I can't imagine they actually get much business that way.  Jill, I am so
sorry that you and your mom had to see such trash.
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Flippy - 06 Mar 2008 01:09 GMT
Yep, it is very tacky.

We had a tacky experience when my sister died. In her Will she had
bequeathed an amount of money to the SPASTIC CHILDREN'S SOCIETY here in
Australia. The executor of the Will took some time to sell her house &
belongings, etc, before the funds could be distributed. The SPASTIC
CHILDREN'S SOCIETY sent a letter to my MOTHER stating that if the "donation"
was not handed over immediately then they were going to SUE! Now how TACKY
is that?

Needless to say I have never donated to that organisation since that time.

Flippy.

"jmcquown" wrote in message...
> Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
> Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It said
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Jill
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 06 Mar 2008 01:36 GMT
> Yep, it is very tacky.

> We had a tacky experience when my sister died. In her Will she had
> bequeathed an amount of money to the SPASTIC CHILDREN'S SOCIETY here in
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> was not handed over immediately then they were going to SUE! Now how TACKY
> is that?

> Needless to say I have never donated to that organisation since that time.

Unbelievable. Why is someone who is obviously totally lacking in basic
social skills allowed to write letters to the public?? Because, you know,
it could be a really good organization, which just happens to have a
buffoon writing letters and acting like a jerk. Not that I blame you a
bit for deciding not to deal with them anymore. Whenever someone from an
organization contacts the public, they *represent* that organization,
and she made them all look really bad! You probably could've gotten her
fired, had you been so inclined.

Joyce
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 06 Mar 2008 01:51 GMT
> Whenever someone from an
> organization contacts the public, they *represent* that organization,
> and she made them all look really bad! You probably could've gotten her
> fired, had you been so inclined.

Funny that I assumed the person who wrote to your mother was female.
No reason to think that, from your post.

Joyce

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Granby - 06 Mar 2008 02:17 GMT
I consider a lot of companies tacky.  My husband has been dead for two years
and even though I send back letters from charity groups telling them this, I
still get letters addressed to him for donations.  I got 23 sets of address
labels for him in the last 6 months.  A lady told me to put the address
labels in the envelope enclosed for a donation and send them back with a
not.  So far, this hasn't made a difference.

> > Yep, it is very tacky.
>
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>
> Joyce
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 06 Mar 2008 19:20 GMT
> I consider a lot of companies tacky.  My husband has been dead for two years
> and even though I send back letters from charity groups telling them this, I
> still get letters addressed to him for donations.  I got 23 sets of address
> labels for him in the last 6 months.  A lady told me to put the address
> labels in the envelope enclosed for a donation and send them back with a
> not.  So far, this hasn't made a difference.

I think it's rather like all the "junk" e-mail - once your address gets
on a list, it stays as the list is sold and resold to other nuisance
sources.  Probably because I post to an international travel group, I
get the stuff in practically every earthly language!  (At least it
sometimes SEEMS that way.)  Persian, Hindu, Chinese, Japanese, Korean,
Russian, Greek, Czech, German, French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese.....
 (At least most of the European languages use the same alphabet, but
why send e-mail to a recipient who can't even read your ALPHABET?
Flippy - 06 Mar 2008 03:29 GMT
> > Yep, it is very tacky.
>
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>
> Joyce

Actually, it was the company's Solicitor (Lawyer) who sent the letter. I
don't know if the Solicitor was male or female.

You would think that an organisation that encourages empathy towards
children with disabilities, they would show some empathy towards others.

Flippy.
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 06 Mar 2008 04:36 GMT
> > > Yep, it is very tacky.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> >
> > Joyce

> Actually, it was the company's Solicitor (Lawyer) who sent the letter.

Oh, well that explains it, then! :-/

> I don't know if the Solicitor was male or female.

See my follow-up post to myself. I noted the same odd assumption.

> You would think that an organisation that encourages empathy towards
> children with disabilities, they would show some empathy towards others.

No kidding!

Joyce

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tanadashoes - 06 Mar 2008 02:04 GMT
> Yep, it is very tacky.
>
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>
> Needless to say I have never donated to that organisation since that time.

Now THAT'S tacky.

Pam S. who's received some tacky stuff in the mail, but that would top it.
tanadashoes - 06 Mar 2008 02:01 GMT
> Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
> Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It said
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> in this case hearse - chasers!)  It's not often I get truly angry.  This
> did it!

The last car accident that we were in, Mike got a letter from a local lawyer
offering to sue me on his behalf.  So did the other passenger in the van.  I
was flooded with attorneys offering to get my court date stopped and keep me
from going to jail.  I went down to the DA's office an talked to him.  He
said that my new insurance rates would be punishment enough, especially
since the other party at fault was the city of Fayetteville.

Pam S.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 06 Mar 2008 03:00 GMT
> Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
> Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It
> said they are sorry for her loss but maybe the enclosed 10% off coupon
> her for her first visit would make her feel better!  (Apparently they do
> massage therapies.)

I think that even trumps the time I was home recuperating from surgery
and fielded a call from a telemarketer for Forest Lawn Cemetery!
jofirey - 06 Mar 2008 04:45 GMT
> Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
> Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It said
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Jill

If that is an example of their idea of advertising, they deserve the worst
that can happen to them.

Jo
Marina - 06 Mar 2008 05:53 GMT
> Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
> Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It
> said they are sorry for her loss but maybe the enclosed 10% off coupon
> her for her first visit would make her feel better!  (Apparently they do
> massage therapies.)

Goodness! And I thought it was tacky when Dad's publisher put in a big
newspaper ad for his books a few days after he died.

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Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.

hopitus - 06 Mar 2008 16:12 GMT
> > Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
> > Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> --
> Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.

Why is everyone so blown away and outraged by such distasteful
junk mail? For some of us, it has become a part of life....when you
reach a certain age bracket, you are bombarded (literally) with stuff
from multiple insurance companies for everything from "burial"
policies
to "additional hospital benefits" to "no-physical life policies"! I
have
endured death of family members multiple times....you ain't seen
nothin' yet, as they say.....yeah, the funeral plots, Plots for
remaining
family, more insurance ploys...we were even sent "pet plots" from a
PetSemetary (LOL) outfit (as if our recently departed was a PET!!!)
so my advice is don't waste your energy protesting these tasteless
mailings and calls (at least you can tell them off with the calls).
You
are under enough pressure past few weeks and stress of your loss.
BTW my sincere condolences. Your Dad was an outstanding man.
He will be remembered as such. ((((Jill)))).
Granby - 06 Mar 2008 16:59 GMT
There is a funny side to these types of mailings.  Try being Legally Blind,
have some sight but not enough to read a newspaper and not drive a car and
such.  I got an insurance thing the other day that said "We checked your
records and you have had no traffic violations in the past 10 years
therefore, you are eligible for a big discount in your insurance"  When I
called them they had gotten my address because I own a vehicle.  When I
explained the situation  the lady said "Blind people can't own cars!"  I
replied yes we can and also guns.  She hung up on me so I am probably
registered as a dangerous person to call!!!
>> > Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
>> > Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> BTW my sincere condolences. Your Dad was an outstanding man.
> He will be remembered as such. ((((Jill)))).
hopitus - 06 Mar 2008 17:32 GMT
> There is a funny side to these types of mailings.  Try being Legally Blind,
> have some sight but not enough to read a newspaper and not drive a car and
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> > BTW my sincere condolences. Your Dad was an outstanding man.
> > He will be remembered as such. ((((Jill)))).

Excuse me but you are so right re car ownership...another category of
unlikely title owners is someone I know with Alzheimers....her
daughter
is the "designated driver" thus enabling mother to "own" the vehicle.
I
understand this varies state by state statutes. But ROFL, dangerous
Granby. The NRA needs to hear about your phone call, LOL.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 06 Mar 2008 19:41 GMT
> Excuse me but you are so right re car ownership...another category of
> unlikely title owners is someone I know with Alzheimers....her
> daughter
> is the "designated driver" thus enabling mother to "own" the vehicle.

But many people in the early stages of Alzheimers are perfectly capable
of driving!  (At least according to the poster in my doctor's office
listing its various stages.)  True, sometimes the disease progresses
quite fast, but for many it happens so gradually that it can go
undetected for years.  Everyone has his/her moments of forgetfulness -
being "absent minded" doesn't mean Alzheimers, or we'd ALL be trouble!

Anyway, if one had to be able to drive in order to own a car, what about
all the disabled who can afford the car, even though they must pay a
chauffeur to drive them?  (It's certainly a lot cheaper and more
convenient than hiring a taxi or limousine service.)
hopitus - 06 Mar 2008 22:07 GMT
On Mar 6, 12:41 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Excuse me but you are so right re car ownership...another category of
> > unlikely title owners is someone I know with Alzheimers....her
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> chauffeur to drive them?  (It's certainly a lot cheaper and more
> convenient than hiring a taxi or limousine service.)

Hee hee....from your other post, I thought you might be about to
utter a French phrase...but not this time.
As for the car ownership, *ergo* (is that French? I don't think so)
the
aforementioned "designated driver" clause.
And as for the Alzheimers - would that the state DMV thought like
you do re driving competence.....
jofirey - 07 Mar 2008 05:01 GMT
> On Mar 6, 12:41 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> <evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> And as for the Alzheimers - would that the state DMV thought like
> you do re driving competence.....

Sometimes a decline is so very subtle that you can be too close to someone
to see it.  My dad seemed to be doing fine.  Worried a little more than
usual and tired easier, but he was plenty sharp to talk to, etc.  And he
didn't have any noticeable problems driving.  Trust me, my mother always
noticed any problem anyone ever had driving.

But when he went to take his driving test just before his 80th birthday, he
failed the written test by quite a lot.  He just couldn't manage the part
where you had to identify what each shaped sign was for, such as the octagon
stop or the triangle yield.

My sister and her husband thought it was ridiculous and tried to help him
study to retake the test.  That was when they finally realized he really did
have problems and they were getting worse pretty quickly.

We were all most grateful that he had to stop driving before there were any
incidents that caused harm to him or anyone else.

Jo
tanadashoes - 07 Mar 2008 17:24 GMT
> Sometimes a decline is so very subtle that you can be too close to someone
> to see it.  My dad seemed to be doing fine.  Worried a little more than
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> We were all most grateful that he had to stop driving before there were
> any incidents that caused harm to him or anyone else.

The hardest part about Rob's cancer and its side effects is that we had to
pull Robert's driver's license.  Rob's mom hadn't been in the van with him
for ever so she saw that he needed to give up the wheel.  After he made a
dangerous turn in front of a large, about 2 ton truck, I finally saw it.  He
still seems to think that he is the excellent driver that he used to be, but
no one will give him a chance to prove it.  The State of North Carolina
finally pulled his license after I refused to fill out a request for an
exception for Rob's medical conditions.  Rob was nice about it, but it
seemed like forever before  he forgave me for not trusting him behind the
wheel.  After he helped cause Mike's accident and realized that he could
actually have done more damage to people than he did, he seemed to have
given up the dream of getting his license back.  But he used to be a superb
driver.

Pam S.
Granby - 07 Mar 2008 18:57 GMT
My husband should not have been driving for the last 6 months of his life
but, since we didn't actually have an accident, close many times, they said
I was just being over stressed.  After all, I couldn't drive how could I
make those decisions?  Hearing brakes slam on around you, going on red
instead of green and slowing to a crawl before going onto he interstate.  I
had just started mentioning it to the family and he threw a fit.  My son
knew it but hated to be the one to do it.  Would have had to happen soon
anyeay..

>> Sometimes a decline is so very subtle that you can be too close to
>> someone to see it.  My dad seemed to be doing fine.  Worried a little
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> Pam S.
jofirey - 07 Mar 2008 19:33 GMT
>> Sometimes a decline is so very subtle that you can be too close to
>> someone to see it.  My dad seemed to be doing fine.  Worried a little
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> Pam S.

It was incredibly hard on all of us when Daddy lost his license.  In part
because he was the one in the family who had taught everyone to drive.  Even
his own father.  All his siblings, most of their spouses, my mom, all us
kids and all the grandkids who were old enough.

Some of how he taught me definitely saved lives.  At one time that included
a van full of little girls headed for practice.

Jo
Granby - 07 Mar 2008 00:31 GMT
NRA probably already knows.
>> There is a funny side to these types of mailings.  Try being Legally
>> Blind,
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
> understand this varies state by state statutes. But ROFL, dangerous
> Granby. The NRA needs to hear about your phone call, LOL.
jmcquown - 06 Mar 2008 18:59 GMT
>> > Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
>> > Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Why is everyone so blown away and outraged by such distasteful
> junk mail? For some of us, it has become a part of life...
(snippage)

Perhaps, but this is the first time I've had to deal with the death of an
immediate family member.  And perhaps if enough people ganged up on those
engaged in such distasteful behavior it might stop.

> You
> are under enough pressure past few weeks and stress of your loss.
> BTW my sincere condolences. Your Dad was an outstanding man.
> He will be remembered as such. ((((Jill)))).

Thank you very much.

Jill
jofirey - 06 Mar 2008 22:10 GMT
>>> > Mom got a pre-printed "sympathy card" in the mail from Restorative
>>> > Bodywork Solutions, LLC (out of Beaufort, SC, in case you care).  It
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Jill

No one gangs up on them because they are preying on people who are in no
shape to gang up on them.

Too many companies know well and good that when an older person dies, they
have very likely left behind someone who can be taken advantage of in one
way or another.

Pest control companies are good at this.  Get the survivor worried about
their property.

My mother became very overwhelmed with it all, and she had been the one to
take care of business stuff.  Mostly she just told everyone to call me and
sent me mail that she questioned.  They did rope her in on the scam where
you are told that your car warranty has expired and needs to be renewed.
They premium was just under the amount the credit card company would
question, and it was self renewing.

I had to make sure she never gave anyone her credit card number over the
phone.  Many older people don't have someone to look after their affairs and
don't manage well on their own.

Jo
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 07 Mar 2008 00:15 GMT
> Too many companies know well and good that when an older person dies, they
> have very likely left behind someone who can be taken advantage of in one
> way or another.

> Pest control companies are good at this.  Get the survivor worried about
> their property.

I know this isn't a funny topic, and I'm not very old, nor am I bereaved,
nor even a property owner, but nonetheless, a couple of years ago I
received the funniest junk mail. It said:

 "Joyce <Last Name>, Swarms of termites are heading for the San Jose/
  San Francisco/Oakland area on 4/24/05. Is your home protected?"

I don't know why, but that just made me roar. Maybe because it had an
exact date, as well as specific destination cities? Who knew that termite
travel was so well-organized?

> I had to make sure she never gave anyone her credit card number over the
> phone.  Many older people don't have someone to look after their affairs and
> don't manage well on their own.

This sounds like my mother. She can't be trusted with a credit card,
either. She apparently has a big sign on her forehead saying "Sucker for
Scammers", which only scammers can see. (Kind of like the "Sucker" sign
I have on my forehead that only cats can see.) My mother is the most
gullible person on the planet. Luckily, she lives near my sister, who
is very savvy about money (more so than I am - I can take care of myself
fine, but I'm not sure I could solve everyone else's problems). My sister
controls my mother's finances so she doesn't get into trouble. She has
a "bit" of a compulsive shopping habit, and is also easily pressured to
buy stuff she doesn't need.

Joyce

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 07 Mar 2008 17:25 GMT
>  > Too many companies know well and good that when an older person dies, they
>  > have very likely left behind someone who can be taken advantage of in one
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> exact date, as well as specific destination cities? Who knew that termite
> travel was so well-organized?

Well, aren't the Capistrano swallows supposed to return on the same day
every year?  (Except the year they DIDN'T - with nationwide news media
all set up in place to broadcast the event!) ;-)
hopitus - 07 Mar 2008 18:58 GMT
On Mar 7, 10:25 am, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

I dunno about those swallows..have no use for any birds except owls
(nothing
personal, bird-dude, to each his own) but have to congrat
Evelyn for choosing Neptune for her final resting place...over the
years
have heard a lotta good things about it. GW but if I may, recommend
the
blue-green Atlantic (beautiful reefs, colorful finned and otherwise
residents,
relatively warm water near FL, and if your survivors wanna be 'near'
you,
they could always take a trip to Miami and go in the water at multiple
beaches there.....as opposed to the cold, dark, and IMHO forbidding
Pacific
(I;ve seen them both, swam in both, LOL I foolishly expected the
Pacific to
be like the one I was used to.
A memorial service on the shores of whichever one you end up in; a
great solution
to commercial burial etc. purveyors preying on your survivors.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 07 Mar 2008 17:19 GMT
> No one gangs up on them because they are preying on people who are in no
> shape to gang up on them.
>
> Too many companies know well and good that when an older person dies, they
> have very likely left behind someone who can be taken advantage of in one
> way or another.

All too often starting with the "funeral director"!   At least my
nearest and dearest will be spared THAT - I signed up with the Neptune
Society (prepaid cremation and ashes buried at sea).  If they want a
memorial service, they're on their own - at least there'll be no
expensive caskets and other fancy appurtenances.  (IIRC, I told the
Forest Lawn telemarketer mentioned in an earlier post that, rather than
buy a plot from them, I'd rather see my remains thrown in a ditch
somewhere!)

> Pest control companies are good at this.  Get the survivor worried about
> their property.

Not just the bereaved - a lot of "repair" persons prey on the elderly.
Often they pose as door-to-door "roofers" and "heating and
air-conditioning" people.  If they gain access to your home, you're
lucky if they merely try to sell you an unneeded new roof or heating
system - some of them specialize in assault and robbery.

>   They did rope her in on the scam where
> you are told that your car warranty has expired and needs to be renewed.
> They premium was just under the amount the credit card company would
> question, and it was self renewing.

I don't think THEY limit themselves to the elderly! I've been getting
those mailings ever since I moved to Arizona, and I was not living in a
senior retirement residence when they first started arriving.
(Fortunately, since I drive a ten year old car, whose extended warranty
expired long ago, my only reaction is "WHAT warranty?")
Enfilade - 07 Mar 2008 19:54 GMT
Occasionally we get flyers for funeral services but all of them have
printed on them "This is a mass mailing and if it comes to you during
a time of loss we apologize."

The way I see it, funeral services companies have a right to advertise
like any other company.  It's only when companies (funeral or
otherwise) start trolling death lists in order to deliberately target
bereaved families that it becomes tactless and cruel.

I hope this company's karma comes back around and runs them over.

--Fil

> Perhaps, but this is the first time I've had to deal with the death of an
> immediate family member.  And perhaps if enough people ganged up on those
> engaged in such distasteful behavior it might stop.
hopitus - 07 Mar 2008 21:27 GMT
> Occasionally we get flyers for funeral services but all of them have
> printed on them "This is a mass mailing and if it comes to you during
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Something you said reminded me of a common scam/crime in south FL, the
heavily
populated with old people I originate from.....it was "trolling death
lists". Burglary
groups troll the obits daily, get on the Net and find addresses (or
the local phone book)
and do a number on the residence while all family members are at the
funeral/cemetery.
How;s *that* for "tacky"? Makes the purveyors seem friendly, huh? And
the pickings
in that area are *great*....longest daily obit columns I saw so
far.....they even choose
the classiest neighborhoods to hit. And as for "alarm systems" most
are aware that
once you're in, in spite of the noise, etc. you have about 10 minutes
to get what you
can and haul ***.
jofirey - 07 Mar 2008 22:40 GMT
On Mar 7, 12:54 pm, Enfilade <decepticoncomm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Occasionally we get flyers for funeral services but all of them have
> printed on them "This is a mass mailing and if it comes to you during
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Something you said reminded me of a common scam/crime in south FL, the
heavily
populated with old people I originate from.....it was "trolling death
lists". Burglary
groups troll the obits daily, get on the Net and find addresses (or
the local phone book)
and do a number on the residence while all family members are at the
funeral/cemetery.
How;s *that* for "tacky"? Makes the purveyors seem friendly, huh? And
the pickings
in that area are *great*....longest daily obit columns I saw so
far.....they even choose
the classiest neighborhoods to hit. And as for "alarm systems" most
are aware that
once you're in, in spite of the noise, etc. you have about 10 minutes
to get what you
can and haul ***.

This has become so very common in all of the country, it is a normal part of
funeral planning to have someone house sit at least through the funeral day
any time that the home of the deceased's family is empty.

Often, its one of the things the "church ladies" will sometimes offer to do.

If the home is going to be vacant for a while when affairs are put in order,
precautions have to be taken to protect the house and contents.  Its a good
idea to update insurance coverage too if you are responsible for the
property and can't be there physically.

Jo
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 07 Mar 2008 23:12 GMT
hopitus wrote:

> Burglary
> groups troll the obits daily, get on the Net and find addresses (or
> the local phone book)
> and do a number on the residence while all family members are at the
> funeral/cemetery.
> How;s *that* for "tacky"? Makes the purveyors seem friendly, huh?

That's pretty bad!

> And as for "alarm systems" most
> are aware that
> once you're in, in spite of the noise, etc. you have about 10 minutes
> to get what you can and haul ***.

This is true - nobody seems to pay attention to alarms anymore. Car alarms
go off and nobody does anything, except to yell out the window to turn
that thing off. Myself included - I've never called the cops because of
a car alarm. Can you imagine if people did that? The cops would be swamped
with calls. Most times when the alarm goes off it's due to the car being
accidentally bumped, or the owner accidentally sets it off trying to open
the car. I'll bet break-ins constitute a minority of the incidents of
car alarms going off.

I guess with house alarms it is different, because they usually trigger
either an alert to the police, or to the alarm company. Often that is an
accident, too (say, a pet sets it off, or a person, but not a robber,
does). So somebody will probably show up in that case.

You can tell I've never dealt with this. I'm a renter, and have always
been. But I have been the designated contact person for a friend's alarm
system, and have occasionally received calls when they're on vacation,
because something set off the alarm.

Joyce
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Granby - 08 Mar 2008 01:48 GMT
Here in Illinois, most people leave someone, a family friend or neighbor at
the house while everyone else is at the funeral.  They did that all the time
when I was a kid, many many moons ago.
On Mar 7, 12:54 pm, Enfilade <decepticoncomm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Occasionally we get flyers for funeral services but all of them have
> printed on them "This is a mass mailing and if it comes to you during
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Something you said reminded me of a common scam/crime in south FL, the
heavily
populated with old people I originate from.....it was "trolling death
lists". Burglary
groups troll the obits daily, get on the Net and find addresses (or
the local phone book)
and do a number on the residence while all family members are at the
funeral/cemetery.
How;s *that* for "tacky"? Makes the purveyors seem friendly, huh? And
the pickings
in that area are *great*....longest daily obit columns I saw so
far.....they even choose
the classiest neighborhoods to hit. And as for "alarm systems" most
are aware that
once you're in, in spite of the noise, etc. you have about 10 minutes
to get what you
can and haul ***.

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