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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / March 2008Urgent Purrs for Cara Please....
It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I have going on.... I've just got back from the ER vet where I've had to leave Cara for an operation. She was out with at the beach my gran today whilst I was at work, and apparently, she went after a stick that someone threw. She apparently then pulled it away from another dog, and it broke..... She's been coughing on and off most of the afternoon, but nothing really significant. This evening she started gagging and choking, and so I took her straight up to the ER vet. She's got to have a general anaesthetic and an endoscopy before the offending piece of stick is removed from her windpipe. I try very hard not to throw sticks for my dogs as I have seen the damage they cause and today has proved why. I hope to god the insurance pays for this, because I am looking at a bill of £1000. If I have to pay it upfront I have absolutely no fcuking idea where I'll get the money from, so purrs please that the practice manager lets the claim go direct to the insurance and not via my bank balance. To make matters even worse, tomorrow I have a really important teaching assessment with Ofsted and my Teaching mentor and I haven't started my planning for my lessons yet, because I have been sorting out Cara. Just to add insult to injury, today the headmaster told me my contract wasn't being renewed in September because they had to advertise my temporary post for a "second in department", because that is what it was before I took it up. *That*, I'm quite glad about, as it means I have a very valid excuse for moving on when I go to job interviews, but it also means I have the added stress of job hunting again. ARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!! Purrs gratefully recieved for everything... Thanks Helen M purrs lovingly sent for everything, Lee It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I have going on.... I've just got back from the ER vet where I've had to leave Cara for an operation. She was out with at the beach my gran today whilst I was at work, and apparently, she went after a stick that someone threw. She apparently then pulled it away from another dog, and it broke..... She's been coughing on and off most of the afternoon, but nothing really significant. This evening she started gagging and choking, and so I took her straight up to the ER vet. She's got to have a general anaesthetic and an endoscopy before the offending piece of stick is removed from her windpipe. I try very hard not to throw sticks for my dogs as I have seen the damage they cause and today has proved why. I hope to god the insurance pays for this, because I am looking at a bill of £1000. If I have to pay it upfront I have absolutely no fcuking idea where I'll get the money from, so purrs please that the practice manager lets the claim go direct to the insurance and not via my bank balance. To make matters even worse, tomorrow I have a really important teaching assessment with Ofsted and my Teaching mentor and I haven't started my planning for my lessons yet, because I have been sorting out Cara. Just to add insult to injury, today the headmaster told me my contract wasn't being renewed in September because they had to advertise my temporary post for a "second in department", because that is what it was before I took it up. *That*, I'm quite glad about, as it means I have a very valid excuse for moving on when I go to job interviews, but it also means I have the added stress of job hunting again. ARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!! Purrs gratefully recieved for everything... Thanks Helen M > ARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!! > > Purrs gratefully recieved for everything... > Thanks > Helen M Sending purrs for Cara, your bank account, and your job needs. It sounds like a difficult time! Dan > It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I > have going on.... > I've just got back from the ER vet where I've had to leave Cara for an > operation. She was out with at the beach my gran today whilst I was at > work, and apparently, she went after a stick that someone threw. She > apparently then pulled it away from another dog, and it broke..... > She's been coughing on and off most of the afternoon, but nothing > really significant. This evening she started gagging and choking, and > so I took her straight up to the ER vet. She's got to have a general > anaesthetic and an endoscopy before the offending piece of stick is > removed from her windpipe. Yikes!! Purrs for poor Cara, and for you, too! Joyce  SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. Purrs all around in route It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I have going on.... I've just got back from the ER vet where I've had to leave Cara for an operation. She was out with at the beach my gran today whilst I was at work, and apparently, she went after a stick that someone threw. She apparently then pulled it away from another dog, and it broke..... She's been coughing on and off most of the afternoon, but nothing really significant. This evening she started gagging and choking, and so I took her straight up to the ER vet. She's got to have a general anaesthetic and an endoscopy before the offending piece of stick is removed from her windpipe. I try very hard not to throw sticks for my dogs as I have seen the damage they cause and today has proved why. I hope to god the insurance pays for this, because I am looking at a bill of £1000. If I have to pay it upfront I have absolutely no fcuking idea where I'll get the money from, so purrs please that the practice manager lets the claim go direct to the insurance and not via my bank balance. To make matters even worse, tomorrow I have a really important teaching assessment with Ofsted and my Teaching mentor and I haven't started my planning for my lessons yet, because I have been sorting out Cara. Just to add insult to injury, today the headmaster told me my contract wasn't being renewed in September because they had to advertise my temporary post for a "second in department", because that is what it was before I took it up. *That*, I'm quite glad about, as it means I have a very valid excuse for moving on when I go to job interviews, but it also means I have the added stress of job hunting again. ARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!! Purrs gratefully recieved for everything... Thanks Helen M Mega purrs on the way - wow, what a lot to have to deal with all at one time! Hugs, CatNipped ========================================================== It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I have going on.... I've just got back from the ER vet where I've had to leave Cara for an operation. She was out with at the beach my gran today whilst I was at work, and apparently, she went after a stick that someone threw. She apparently then pulled it away from another dog, and it broke..... She's been coughing on and off most of the afternoon, but nothing really significant. This evening she started gagging and choking, and so I took her straight up to the ER vet. She's got to have a general anaesthetic and an endoscopy before the offending piece of stick is removed from her windpipe. I try very hard not to throw sticks for my dogs as I have seen the damage they cause and today has proved why. I hope to god the insurance pays for this, because I am looking at a bill of £1000. If I have to pay it upfront I have absolutely no fcuking idea where I'll get the money from, so purrs please that the practice manager lets the claim go direct to the insurance and not via my bank balance. To make matters even worse, tomorrow I have a really important teaching assessment with Ofsted and my Teaching mentor and I haven't started my planning for my lessons yet, because I have been sorting out Cara. Just to add insult to injury, today the headmaster told me my contract wasn't being renewed in September because they had to advertise my temporary post for a "second in department", because that is what it was before I took it up. *That*, I'm quite glad about, as it means I have a very valid excuse for moving on when I go to job interviews, but it also means I have the added stress of job hunting again. ARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!! Purrs gratefully recieved for everything... Thanks Helen M leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk wrote in news:f2afafce-672d-461c-a674- 35fa4287a6d7@n36g2000hse.googlegroups.com: > It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I > have going on.... [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Thanks > Helen M Being sent. Oh no! Mega purrs for a good operation for Cara. And direct acceptence to and from the insurance company. Fingers and paws crossed for teaching assignment and lesson plan. And DO NOT WORRY ABOUT JOB HUNTING NOW! Save that for later after everything else is resolved. Then we will send lots of proper job hunting purrs. Charleen and the tribe > leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk wrote in news:f2afafce-672d-461c-a674- > 35fa4287a6d7@n36g2000hse.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Being sent. Purrs for Cara, and for you. SignatureJoy Constant change is here to stay. It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I have going on.... I've just got back from the ER vet where I've had to leave Cara for an operation. She was out with at the beach my gran today whilst I was at work, and apparently, she went after a stick that someone threw. She apparently then pulled it away from another dog, and it broke..... She's been coughing on and off most of the afternoon, but nothing really significant. This evening she started gagging and choking, and so I took her straight up to the ER vet. She's got to have a general anaesthetic and an endoscopy before the offending piece of stick is removed from her windpipe. I try very hard not to throw sticks for my dogs as I have seen the damage they cause and today has proved why. I hope to god the insurance pays for this, because I am looking at a bill of £1000. If I have to pay it upfront I have absolutely no fcuking idea where I'll get the money from, so purrs please that the practice manager lets the claim go direct to the insurance and not via my bank balance. To make matters even worse, tomorrow I have a really important teaching assessment with Ofsted and my Teaching mentor and I haven't started my planning for my lessons yet, because I have been sorting out Cara. Just to add insult to injury, today the headmaster told me my contract wasn't being renewed in September because they had to advertise my temporary post for a "second in department", because that is what it was before I took it up. *That*, I'm quite glad about, as it means I have a very valid excuse for moving on when I go to job interviews, but it also means I have the added stress of job hunting again. ARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!! Purrs gratefully recieved for everything... Thanks Helen M It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I have going on.... I've just got back from the ER vet where I've had to leave Cara for an operation. She was out with at the beach my gran today whilst I was at work, and apparently, she went after a stick that someone threw. She apparently then pulled it away from another dog, and it broke..... She's been coughing on and off most of the afternoon, but nothing really significant. This evening she started gagging and choking, and so I took her straight up to the ER vet. She's got to have a general anaesthetic and an endoscopy before the offending piece of stick is removed from her windpipe. ----------- BC's just love to chase sticks, don't they? Anyone's stick will do. My mother's BC got a soft palate injury from a piece of stick stuck in it. >because I am looking at a bill of £1000. What??? That's ridiculous. Ask them to break down each component and justify it. >If I have to pay it upfront I have absolutely no fcuking idea where I'll get the money from, so purrs please that the practice manager lets the claim go direct to the insurance and not via my bank balance. ------ Don't panic. Cara's insurance should cover it and there is no reason why your vet should insist you pay up front. If he/she does just say you can't, he is hardly likely to starve if you don't pay up front, is he? That's what pet insurance is for - to cover huge vet's bills. He will be used to waiting for payment. -------------- Lots of purrs for tomorrow and for your job hunt. Tweed because I am looking at a bill of £1000. > What??? That's ridiculous. Ask them to break down each component and > justify it. I shall do, don't worry. He heard the words "She's insured" and I think that's where the bill suddenly came from!! ------ > Don't panic. Cara's insurance should cover it and there is no reason why > your vet should insist you pay up front. If he/she does just say you can't, > he is hardly likely to starve if you don't pay up front, is he? > That's what pet insurance is for - to cover huge vet's bills. He will be > used to waiting for payment. > -------------- He's got no bloody choice! It's what he'll have to do! I've just spent a week jumping through hoops to have her arthritis claimed direct from the insurance at the "same-but-different-because-they're-the-emergency- vets-and-we're-the-normal-vets" practice out of the same building, so we'll see.... > Lots of purrs for tomorrow and for your job hunt. > > Tweed Thanks. :) Helen M because I am looking at a bill of £1000. > What??? That's ridiculous. Ask them to break down each component and > justify it. I shall do, don't worry. He heard the words "She's insured" and I think that's where the bill suddenly came from!! --- Absolute top for anaesthetic, stick removal, further care and antibiotics would be 150 if I was paying for it myself. My brother had his kitten hit by a car a few months ago at a weekend. His jaw was broken and had to be wired immediately. Total cost of all care, a day or two in hospital, one to put the wires in and one to take them out a few weeks later, two anaesthetics plus "the snip" when he was under for his wires to come out - 350 including body scans. Your vet is taking the p because you mentioned "insurance." If mine ever did this, 30 plus years of using them since I was a child would disappear. Tweed Tweed > Absolute top for anaesthetic, stick removal, further care and antibiotics > would be 150 if I was paying for it myself. > Your vet is taking the p because you mentioned "insurance." > If mine ever did this, 30 plus years of using them since I was a child would > disappear. > > Tweed My feline specialist vet, Michael is awesome. his bills are always reasonable, he's an awesome vet and I frequently rave about him to others. He's comparable to London prices although I would gladly pay any fee he asked as he's worth every penny. *This* vet is the local emergency vet that deals with out of hours for practices in Cardiff and the surrounding areas. So far it's £65 out of hours consult, £70 geriatric pre-anaesthetic blood test, £75 anaesthetic, £180 endoscopy, £350 out of hours operating fee.... £X associated drugs and hospitalisation....... Quite frankly I am so far beyond caring, it's not even funny. By the time I've finished, I'll most likely have sorted something out...i.e paying the excess of £85 and leaving them to get the rest from Petplan. They are the best of a bad bunch as a general practice which is why I use them for the dog, and with the exception of one other major veterinary practice that I refuse to use because they are complete incompetent butchers, they are the only out of hours vets in the Cardiff area - all the other practices use them as the emergency service - including Caerphilly 15 miles away!! Supply and demand is a wonderful thing...... Helen M > Absolute top for anaesthetic, stick removal, further care and antibiotics > would be 150 if I was paying for it myself. > Your vet is taking the p because you mentioned "insurance." > If mine ever did this, 30 plus years of using them since I was a child > would > disappear. > > Tweed My feline specialist vet, Michael is awesome. his bills are always reasonable, he's an awesome vet and I frequently rave about him to others. He's comparable to London prices although I would gladly pay any fee he asked as he's worth every penny. *This* vet is the local emergency vet that deals with out of hours for practices in Cardiff and the surrounding areas. So far it's £65 out of hours consult, £70 geriatric pre-anaesthetic blood test, £75 anaesthetic, £180 endoscopy, £350 out of hours operating fee.... --- !!!! I am lucky to have a vet that provides a service 365 days a year and 24 hours a day. It does cost a bit more if you have an emergency during the night or at the weekend but nothing like 350 for an o.o.h. op as a matter of course. I'm glad I have my vet and not yours. Purrs and prayers for everybody in your family and for you. Lily & her mama SignatureIrulan from the stars we come to the stars we return from now until the end of time. It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I have going on.... I've just got back from the ER vet where I've had to leave Cara for an operation. She was out with at the beach my gran today whilst I was at work, and apparently, she went after a stick that someone threw. She apparently then pulled it away from another dog, and it broke..... She's been coughing on and off most of the afternoon, but nothing really significant. This evening she started gagging and choking, and so I took her straight up to the ER vet. She's got to have a general anaesthetic and an endoscopy before the offending piece of stick is removed from her windpipe. I try very hard not to throw sticks for my dogs as I have seen the damage they cause and today has proved why. I hope to god the insurance pays for this, because I am looking at a bill of £1000. If I have to pay it upfront I have absolutely no fcuking idea where I'll get the money from, so purrs please that the practice manager lets the claim go direct to the insurance and not via my bank balance. To make matters even worse, tomorrow I have a really important teaching assessment with Ofsted and my Teaching mentor and I haven't started my planning for my lessons yet, because I have been sorting out Cara. Just to add insult to injury, today the headmaster told me my contract wasn't being renewed in September because they had to advertise my temporary post for a "second in department", because that is what it was before I took it up. *That*, I'm quite glad about, as it means I have a very valid excuse for moving on when I go to job interviews, but it also means I have the added stress of job hunting again. ARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!! Purrs gratefully recieved for everything... Thanks Helen M It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I have going on.... You know you have them, Helen. Please keep us informed about how everything is doing. Pam S. Scary. Kayla and I will be praying for her and Jake and Molly have volunteered to purr. Kayla will go after just about anything too. Surprisingly she does understand and obey the command "that's not yours", when she starts to go after something I don't want her to have. She seemed to learn that one on her own, as I have no idea how to go about teaching it. Jo It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I have going on.... I've just got back from the ER vet where I've had to leave Cara for an operation. She was out with at the beach my gran today whilst I was at work, and apparently, she went after a stick that someone threw. She apparently then pulled it away from another dog, and it broke..... She's been coughing on and off most of the afternoon, but nothing really significant. This evening she started gagging and choking, and so I took her straight up to the ER vet. She's got to have a general anaesthetic and an endoscopy before the offending piece of stick is removed from her windpipe. I try very hard not to throw sticks for my dogs as I have seen the damage they cause and today has proved why. I hope to god the insurance pays for this, because I am looking at a bill of £1000. If I have to pay it upfront I have absolutely no fcuking idea where I'll get the money from, so purrs please that the practice manager lets the claim go direct to the insurance and not via my bank balance. To make matters even worse, tomorrow I have a really important teaching assessment with Ofsted and my Teaching mentor and I haven't started my planning for my lessons yet, because I have been sorting out Cara. Just to add insult to injury, today the headmaster told me my contract wasn't being renewed in September because they had to advertise my temporary post for a "second in department", because that is what it was before I took it up. *That*, I'm quite glad about, as it means I have a very valid excuse for moving on when I go to job interviews, but it also means I have the added stress of job hunting again. ARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!! Purrs gratefully recieved for everything... Thanks Helen M > so I took her straight up to the ER vet. She's got to have a general > anaesthetic and an endoscopy before the offending piece of stick is > removed from her windpipe. Yikes! Sounds very scary... :( > ARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!! So sorry to hear that... Purrs! SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com Ohhh BIG HUG, major PURRS and prayers coming your way from us. Kyla --and Clowder <leopardusweidii It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I have going on.... I've just got back from the ER vet where I've had to leave Cara for an operation. She was out with at the beach my gran today whilst I was at work, and apparently, she went after a stick that someone threw. She apparently then pulled it away from another dog, and it broke..... She's been coughing on and off most of the afternoon, but nothing really significant. This evening she started gagging and choking, and so I took her straight up to the ER vet. She's got to have a general anaesthetic and an endoscopy before the offending piece of stick is removed from her windpipe. I try very hard not to throw sticks for my dogs as I have seen the damage they cause and today has proved why. I hope to god the insurance pays for this, because I am looking at a bill of £1000. If I have to pay it upfront I have absolutely no fcuking idea where I'll get the money from, so purrs please that the practice manager lets the claim go direct to the insurance and not via my bank balance. To make matters even worse, tomorrow I have a really important teaching assessment with Ofsted and my Teaching mentor and I haven't started my planning for my lessons yet, because I have been sorting out Cara. Just to add insult to injury, today the headmaster told me my contract wasn't being renewed in September because they had to advertise my temporary post for a "second in department", because that is what it was before I took it up. *That*, I'm quite glad about, as it means I have a very valid excuse for moving on when I go to job interviews, but it also means I have the added stress of job hunting again. ARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!! Purrs gratefully recieved for everything... Thanks Helen M Purrs on the way. Ann Signatureread Sam's blog at http://kittens-3.blogspot.com/ It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I have going on.... I've just got back from the ER vet where I've had to leave Cara for an operation. She was out with at the beach my gran today whilst I was at work, and apparently, she went after a stick that someone threw. She apparently then pulled it away from another dog, and it broke..... She's been coughing on and off most of the afternoon, but nothing really significant. This evening she started gagging and choking, and so I took her straight up to the ER vet. She's got to have a general anaesthetic and an endoscopy before the offending piece of stick is removed from her windpipe. I try very hard not to throw sticks for my dogs as I have seen the damage they cause and today has proved why. I hope to god the insurance pays for this, because I am looking at a bill of £1000. If I have to pay it upfront I have absolutely no fcuking idea where I'll get the money from, so purrs please that the practice manager lets the claim go direct to the insurance and not via my bank balance. To make matters even worse, tomorrow I have a really important teaching assessment with Ofsted and my Teaching mentor and I haven't started my planning for my lessons yet, because I have been sorting out Cara. Just to add insult to injury, today the headmaster told me my contract wasn't being renewed in September because they had to advertise my temporary post for a "second in department", because that is what it was before I took it up. *That*, I'm quite glad about, as it means I have a very valid excuse for moving on when I go to job interviews, but it also means I have the added stress of job hunting again. ARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!! Purrs gratefully recieved for everything... Thanks Helen M It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I have going on.... I've just got back from the ER vet where I've had to leave Cara for an operation. She was out with at the beach my gran today whilst I was at work, and apparently, she went after a stick that someone threw. She apparently then pulled it away from another dog, and it broke..... She's been coughing on and off most of the afternoon, but nothing really significant. This evening she started gagging and choking, and so I took her straight up to the ER vet. She's got to have a general anaesthetic and an endoscopy before the offending piece of stick is removed from her windpipe. I try very hard not to throw sticks for my dogs as I have seen the damage they cause and today has proved why. I hope to god the insurance pays for this, because I am looking at a bill of £1000. If I have to pay it upfront I have absolutely no fcuking idea where I'll get the money from, so purrs please that the practice manager lets the claim go direct to the insurance and not via my bank balance. To make matters even worse, tomorrow I have a really important teaching assessment with Ofsted and my Teaching mentor and I haven't started my planning for my lessons yet, because I have been sorting out Cara. Just to add insult to injury, today the headmaster told me my contract wasn't being renewed in September because they had to advertise my temporary post for a "second in department", because that is what it was before I took it up. *That*, I'm quite glad about, as it means I have a very valid excuse for moving on when I go to job interviews, but it also means I have the added stress of job hunting again. ARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!! Purrs gratefully recieved for everything... Thanks Helen M Purrs FOR everything. (((((((((((((Helen and Cara))))))))))))))))))) SignatureTheresa, Stinky and Dante drtmuirATearthlink.net > It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I > have going on.... [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Thanks > Helen M Purrs for Cara and for you. Sam, supervised by Mistletoe Holy sh.t..... Major purrs for you and your bank account..... Yeah times like this really really sucks, but from someone who works in the field, here's my 2 cents on the cost of veterinary care. This is long, but please be patient. If it were at my hospital or at the emergency clinic where I pick up shifts, Cara would need the following: Emergency exam X-rays (possibly pre-op AND post-op) to see how far down the stick is Endoscopy (to get a better view of the stick...is it just lying there? Is it embedded in the tissue? is there any bleeding?) Pre-op Bloodwork, which is CBC, Blood Chemistries, Electrolytes, Packed Cell Volume, etc IV Catheter and fluids The surgical procedure itself, which will include any injections she needs(Pain meds, Antibiotics, Anti-Inflammatory), anesthesia(Sevoflurane is better but more expensive), the surgical pack, any equipment, suture material and other items. Time and difficulty of the surgery will also be a factor. And then there's the post-operative care, Daily Doctor Exam, Daily IV Fluid Therapy, Daily Housing, Daily Intensive Nursing Care, any monitoring bloodwork they will want to run, in this case probably Oxygen therapy, any in house medications and then there's the medications to go home. It all adds up.......... In southern California, where I work is expensive, but the emergency clinic is even more expensive. Then again we're a day practice and the e-clinic has TOP OF THE LINE equipment. (Man, they have some NICE toys, you ought to see their CBC machine. Sweeeeeet...... Oh and Digital X-ray as opposed to Film X-ray is WAY better, but more expensive) Hell, at our place we have LASER SURGERY. Using a laser cauterizes the blood vessels and nerve endings so there's less inflammation and a LOT less pain and bruising. The animal recovers much MUCH quicker and is in LESS pain. We had a labradoodle that had swallowed a rock and the quote we gave the owner included most of the above You'd be surprised how it all adds up. The final bill was about $2000 USD, and this did NOT include overnight care at the local emergency clinic. My hospital closes at 6 pm and we send most of our hospitalized cases to the e-clinic for monitoring. The e-clinic closes at 8 am and they come back to us. I deal with a lot of angst in my field because I make up the estimates and tell the owners, and I have to deal with "Why on earth is it so expensive?" But one thing I do know is that we never NEVER try to pad the bill just because someone has insurance. That is just fcuking stupid. And I don't know why a clinic would, but with all the sh.t in this world, it would and wouldn't surprise me. "Why is a cat spay at your clinic over $300 when at the local spay neuter clinic I can get it done for $75?" Uh, because at THAT place there is usually sub-par equipment and instruments, cheap suture material(usually surgical steel which is painful for the pet to recover and a bitch to remove. Try having surgical STEEL stitches inside YOUR body for the REST OF YOUR LIFE), no one to assist the doctor and monitor the patient while under anesthesia, no preanesthetic drugs so the patient has a rough induction and probably a rough recovery, NO pain medication given to the patient before OR after the procedure and once they're done, they get put into a cage and hardly anyone is around to check on them. Also I deal with a lot of crap from people, even though I have NO control over the prices. C'mon, I enter in the things we need into the computer and whatever number pops up is what it is. Bear in mind also the other things that affect the cost of things in a business. Insurance, Worker's Comp, Rent, Utilities, Drugs and Inventory and of course, Labor. And most place will not take payment plans. Do you know how many times doctors have been screwed over by this? And by people they know personally? Why do you think we take deposits? Even for emergencies we take deposits. I know it sucks, but once we dropped everything to try to save a dog that came in and went into cardiac arrest. The owner told us to do whatever we could to save the dog. We tried for an hour, but it didn't work. Then after all of that, the owner said he had no money........ My clinic doesn't accept checks anymore. I personally worked on a dental where a dog had a suspicious looking molar. We didn't find it until we were in the middle of the dental, and we called the owner and got the approval to shoot dental x-rays and extract it if necessary. The dental x-rays showed the tooth was abscessing so we took it out. Everything was great, and I personally spoke with the owner afterwards who thanked us profusely and the dog went home. And about a week later we find out that the owner had canceled the check. Now with pet insurance, honestly it's a toss up in my opinion. I've seen cases where it has helped and I've seen cases where clients have been screwed. But in this case, this is an EMERGENCY situation and they should cover it regardless of who the hell took care of it. Arthritis I've seen people get screwed on because some insurance companies will call it a 'pre-existing condition' But not in this case. And if they don't, I would sure as hell fight for it. I have insurance for Mischief and Imp, even though I get an employee discount. Why? Because every little bit helps and what if its an emergency and I have to take her to the e-clinic where I DON'T have a discount? The prices really really suck, and I know it does. And it totally hurts me too when I have to tell an owner that it will be hundreds of dollars to take care of their pet. And then again it also pisses me off when the person WON'T spend the money to save their pet. I'm really sorry that this happened, Helen, I really am. Especially since this is on top of Barney the ferret. Mass removals, especially internal ones are very tough surgeries, and since he's a ferret, he's an exotic so that makes it more expensive. Be as polite as you can with the insurance company and if that doesn't work, raise hell. Major purrs for you, Cara and Barney and I hope everything works out. Kristi > I'm really sorry that this happened, Helen, I really am. Especially > since this is on top of Barney the ferret. Mass removals, especially [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Kristi Thanks for taking the time to explain it Kristi. Helen M > The prices really really suck, and I know it does. And it totally > hurts me too when I have to tell an owner that it will be hundreds of > dollars to take care of their pet. And then again it also pisses me > off when the person WON'T spend the money to save their pet. Just curious but what is the reaction when a pet is very much elderly and quality of life is already slipping? My sister lost a beloved cat at age 17. Advanced kidney disease but she didnt know it and the vet's prospects at that age to deal with it, were not very hopeful. I'm not sure where the top end is for 'fixing' that one but thankfully, I've never had to deal with it either. After that though, I'll have Daisy on high end foods only. Apparently 'alley cat' and such arent a good idea. >> The prices really really suck, and I know it does. And it totally >> hurts me too when I have to tell an owner that it will be hundreds of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Just curious but what is the reaction when a pet is very much elderly and > quality of life is already slipping? The majority of us here probably feel if there is no hope for quality of life it's time to say the gentle goodbye. > My sister lost a beloved cat at age 17. Advanced kidney disease but she > didnt know it and the vet's prospects at that age to deal with it, were > not very hopeful. And that's what a good vet should tell you. > I'm not sure where the top end is for 'fixing' that one but thankfully, > I've never had to deal with it either. After that though, I'll have Daisy > on high end foods only. Apparently 'alley cat' and such arent a good > idea. Cheap food is absolutely a horrid idea. Had you made it back to the States before the massive pet food recalls? Jill > Cheap food is absolutely a horrid idea. Had you made it back to the > States before the massive pet food recalls? > > Jill But Jill, weren't some of the recalls "high end" brands? I seem to recall several that were! (Whereas my "cheap" cat food - Purina Indoor, Friskies and Nine Lives in the six ounce cans - never made the list.) No matter what, we try to give the animal the best of care regardless of the prognosis. However we try to be as honest as possible. If we feel the anima's quality of life is diminished it's up to the vet to evaluate when to talk to the owner about euthanasia. BUT, this is a tricky subject, because a LOT of owners will be in denial and don't feel they can say goodbye. So they ask us what can they do, even if the prognosis is terminal, and we end up giving them supportive care. SQ fluids are usually sent home along with more medication to help keep the pet comfortable. ANd it really realy sucks sometimes because as a vet or vet tech you help out this animal, but you know that it's only going to be a matter of time and the animal is going to get worse. I knew a German Shepherd with severe spinal disease and the animal could not walk. The owner had him in diapers and we had to carry him in a on a stretcher. And the guy didn't want to euthanize. I recently did home care for a client whose cat was in severe kidney failure and the cat was losing weight. She was a skeleton wrapped in skin, but she 'didn't seem to be suffering'. after 2 weeks the owner finally realized that the cat was in bad shape and she did the honorable thing. Euthanasia is a tricky thing, especially when we have to sit there and wait for what the owner what's want to do. > ARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!! > > Purrs gratefully recieved for everything... Take a deep breath, Helen! Feel all the purrs come washing over you. Purrrrr purrrrrr purrrrr. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. "Marina" > leopardusweidii> >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Take a deep breath, Helen! Feel all the purrs come washing over you. > Purrrrr purrrrrr purrrrr. There ya go, thaaaaaaaat's it deeeeeeeeeep breaths puuuuuuuuuuuuuuurr puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurr Feel better? HUGs too we love yooooou:) Kyla > It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I > have going on.... [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Thanks > Helen M Mega purrs on the way for Cara! Purrs for your assessment and your job hunt. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >Purrs gratefully recieved for everything... And purrs warmly sent for everything Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I have going on.... I've just got back from the ER vet where I've had to leave Cara for an operation. She was out with at the beach my gran today whilst I was at work, and apparently, she went after a stick that someone threw. She apparently then pulled it away from another dog, and it broke..... She's been coughing on and off most of the afternoon, but nothing really significant. This evening she started gagging and choking, and so I took her straight up to the ER vet. She's got to have a general anaesthetic and an endoscopy before the offending piece of stick is removed from her windpipe. (snippage) Purrs gratefully recieved for everything... Thanks Helen M YIKES. Purrs for Cara and for everything to work out with everything else. Jill Didn't check in last night, so missed this, but purrs going out across the pond still for Cara *and* for you! Hope she's OK, and hope everything else settles out well for you! Purrs- Chris and the Fairfax Fur Factory > It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I > have going on.... [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Thanks > Helen M > It never rains but pours. :o( Quite apart from ALL the other sh*t I > have going on.... [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Thanks > Helen M Lots and lots of purrs and hugs, Polonca and Soncek
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