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Kyla =^..^= - 01 Mar 2008 21:06 GMT I can pick up Pookie and hug him hard and he squeaks, so does Sqweex, when I hug her hard, and Pipps gives me these LOL squawks. I don't hug Mosey hard because he might throw up and he's still too skinny. But the others love being hugged and squeaked. Do you hug your cats and make them squeak? I tell em I love em is why I do dat. Meows and Squeaky HUGS Kyla
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 01 Mar 2008 21:13 GMT > I can pick up Pookie and hug him hard and he squeaks, so does Sqweex, when > I hug her hard, and Pipps gives me these LOL squawks. I don't hug Mosey > hard because he might throw up and he's still too skinny. > But the others love being hugged and squeaked. > Do you hug your cats and make them squeak? Can't. They would never put up with it! They all like their version of cuddling, but I can't do just any old thing I want with them. I sort of envy people who have "malleable" cats - cats you can put into any position, and they stay there and purr. Everett seems a bit like that - if he's in the mood for cuddling, I can move him around and position him so that it's comfy for me, and he just continues cuddling and purring. I'm going to miss the little devil!!!
Joyce
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jofirey - 01 Mar 2008 22:12 GMT > > I can pick up Pookie and hug him hard and he squeaks, so does Sqweex, > > when [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Joyce I don't think so.
I don't think the little devil has any intention of going anywhere.
Evidence - he has already identified a cat need in your home the others don't fulfill and is working on satisfying that need.
Jo
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 01 Mar 2008 23:17 GMT >> position him so that it's comfy for me, and he just continues cuddling >> and purring. I'm going to miss the little devil!!!
> I don't think so.
> I don't think the little devil has any intention of going anywhere.
> Evidence - he has already identified a cat need in your home the others > don't fulfill and is working on satisfying that need. You are right about the need. In fact, I would say it's more than a cat need (ie, a need for a type of relationship with a cat). I live alone and don't have a partner, and I feel extremely touch and affection- deprived. Cats fulfill that need more than any human does at this point. And I've noticed that since I've had Everett, I've felt much less longing for hugs and cuddles from people. He really is wonderful that way.
But the truth is, I cannot keep him. That makes me sad, but it's the truth. He might not intend to go anywhere (and I do think he'd be perfectly happy to stay), but I can't manage with 4 cats. I really can't. I wish I could. Wish I could work part-time, or could afford to hire a regular housekeeper to come every week. Or that my company would let me work at home even *one* day a week. Any of those things would make it easier for me to deal with all the work it takes to care for 4 cats - the complicated feedings, shutting this one and that one in different rooms, the endless cleaning of cat litter, both in the box and all over the floor. I could just barely manage this before Everett, but with a rambunctious, typically destructive kitten, it's almost impossible.
And then there's the money commitment. I take this very seriously. I'm not so sure I can afford to commit to paying for the health needs of 4 cats. Roxy's health care costs a lot because she has herpes. Smudge has a cat fight about once every 4-6 months, and that can get expensive. Now Licky has health problems. And Everett has a leaky eye and might also have herpes (he hasn't been tested).
We talk on this NG about people who, while well-meaning, end up having more pets than they can care for, and everyone's health and well-being suffers for it. I've heard people say many times on this NG that if you can't afford to take care of an animal, you shouldn't adopt one. I'm trying to be responsible here and make the right choice. I don't think I can afford to commit to paying for another cat's possibly high vet bills. I don't think I should make a commitment that I'm not sure I can keep. Fostering's different because it's temporary, I can back out if I need to, and I don't have to pay the vet bills. If Licky hadn't gotten sick, I would have continued to foster Everett until he got adopted. <sigh...>
And then there's the fact that I live in rental housing, owned by someone who thinks I have two cats. He doesn't know about Licky, much less Everett. And what if I have to move at some point? There's a lot of pet-owner discrimination in housing around here, and I think it'd be pretty hard to find a new place with 4 cats in tow.
If I had more money and could hire household help, if I owned my own home with more space - then I'd have more cats. I love having lots of cats. But I don't want to get in over my head. That wouldn't be good for anyone - not for me, not for Everett, and not for my other sweeties, either.
Thanks for listening.
Joyce - right now cuddled up with Miss Roxy
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Marina - 02 Mar 2008 04:17 GMT > If I had more money and could hire household help, if I owned my own > home with more space - then I'd have more cats. I love having lots of > cats. But I don't want to get in over my head. That wouldn't be good > for anyone - not for me, not for Everett, and not for my other sweeties, > either. I'd love to have more cats, too, but I have to stay realistic. The biggest problem would be transporting more than two cats to the island. It's hard enough going on the bus with two. I can sometimes hitch a ride with my brother or sister, but I can't count on that being possible every summer. So I just have to admire all the beautiful cats in the world from afar, and enjoy the two in my home.
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Kreisleriana - 01 Mar 2008 22:11 GMT > I can pick up Pookie and hug him hard and he squeaks, so does Sqweex, when > I hug her hard, and Pipps gives me these LOL squawks. I don't hug Mosey [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Meows and Squeaky HUGS > Kyla Stinky has always loved hugs, and comes and since he was a little guy, has come to me and asked to be picked up. Dante likes them too, but he is heavy, wiggly and slippery. He purrs like crazy, but he is too busy to hang around for long. He sees something moving around somewhere, and he's out of there. Stinky has always been a mushcat.
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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 01 Mar 2008 22:16 GMT > Stinky has always loved hugs, and comes and since he was a little guy, has > come to me and asked to be picked up. Dante likes them too, but he is > heavy, wiggly and slippery. He purrs like crazy, but he is too busy to hang > around for long. He sees something moving around somewhere, and he's out of > there. Stinky has always been a mushcat. Give Dante a few more years. He's young yet.
Joyce
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Kreisleriana - 01 Mar 2008 23:47 GMT > > Stinky has always loved hugs, and comes and since he was a little guy, > > has [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Give Dante a few more years. He's young yet. Stinky was a mushcat from day one, even while he was a highly energetic troublemaker. ;) In fact, I think that's what kept me from being driven absolutely to drink by some of his shenanigans. He would lay waste to the entire house, then crawl up into my lap and melt me down with purrs. ;)
Dante is a bit different. He is busy and playful and into things, and while he's not as intrusive (and destructive!) as Stinky was, he's just a busy guy. Stinky would tear the house down, then ooze into a little puddle of purrs. But even when Dante's in my lap, he's always moving around, kneading and pawing and shiatsu-ing my legs.
Takayuki - 02 Mar 2008 14:22 GMT > > Give Dante a few more years. He's young yet. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > purrs. But even when Dante's in my lap, he's always moving around, kneading > and pawing and shiatsu-ing my legs. But Mimi became more tolerant of being held as she got older. :)
Buster's the first non-limp cat I've had. He's only limp when he's relaxing on my lap. Betty's the most boneless cat I've had. Dot comes pretty close. None of them normally give a protest squeak when being picked up, although Dot squeaks to greet me, and Betty would sometimes squeak when I picked her up while she was showing her belly. All of them beg to be held by getting up on their hind legs and playing patty-paws with your thighs.
Gandalf - 01 Mar 2008 22:50 GMT > I can pick up Pookie and hug him hard and he squeaks, so does Sqweex, when >I hug her hard, and Pipps gives me these LOL squawks. I don't hug Mosey [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Meows and Squeaky HUGS >Kyla I pick up Kenzie and hug her, but she just purrs. She likes to be draped over my shoulder, like you would burp a baby, too.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Life without cats would be only marginally worth living." -TC, and the unmercifully, relentlessly, sweet calico kitty, Kenzie.
Every day is a treasure with Kenzie; I try to treat them that way. There will only be so many, and then there will never, ever, be any more.
How you behave towards cats here below determines your status in Heaven. - Robert Heinlein
Marina - 02 Mar 2008 04:20 GMT > I pick up Kenzie and hug her, but she just purrs. She likes to be draped > over my shoulder, like you would burp a baby, too. Caliban likes that, too. He often falls asleep like that, draped over my shoulder.
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jmcquown - 01 Mar 2008 23:05 GMT > I can pick up Pookie and hug him hard and he squeaks, so does Sqweex, when > I hug her hard, and Pipps gives me these LOL squawks. I don't hug Mosey [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Meows and Squeaky HUGS > Kyla Persia doesn't like to be picked up. She'll tolerate it for a minute, even with a hug. But just grabbing her and hugging her on any sort of frequent basis is pretty much out of the question. She does *snuggle* close to me on the couch or in bed quite a bit, and that's enough for me :)
Jill
Joy - 02 Mar 2008 00:01 GMT > I can pick up Pookie and hug him hard and he squeaks, so does Sqweex, when > I hug her hard, and Pipps gives me these LOL squawks. I don't hug Mosey [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Meows and Squeaky HUGS > Kyla I don't hug mine that hard, because I'm afraid of hurting them. I do hug Nanki-Poo, and he purrs while I'm doing it. Lindy just struggles to get away, so I don't try very often.
Joy
Shiral - 02 Mar 2008 00:42 GMT > I can pick up Pookie and hug him hard and he squeaks, so does Sqweex, when > I hug her hard, and Pipps gives me these LOL squawks. I don't hug Mosey [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Meows and Squeaky HUGS > Kyla Picking them UP is the hard part. They're both good squirmers and leapers. But once I've got them in my arms, they'll put up with a bit of cuddling. Nina is a hug-and-squeaker. Francesca just gives me this cold look that says "The minute you let go of me, I am SO out of here!" She's not an unaffectionate cat, though. She's willing to sit in my lap for sessions of heavy petting as long as I let HER pick the moment. But any attempt to hold her against her will is good for half a day of the cold kitty shoulder. Nina though--she's just a little love sponge.
Melissa
mlbriggs - 02 Mar 2008 05:02 GMT > I can pick up Pookie and hug him hard and he squeaks, so does Sqweex, > when [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Meows and Squeaky HUGS > Kyla Perhaps the "squeek" indicates that you are hurting him. Don't break his ribs or hug so hard you injure his soft body.
Granby - 02 Mar 2008 13:09 GMT Mz Piglet will let me hold her, when she wants, Her best effort towards a human is being by me on the bed at night. She is close and purrs a lot. Don't grab her or force a hug, she will NOT have it.
O T Is a ball of softness. He will let you pick him up and gently hold.
Willow, catch her is you can. At night she is by my head and when I reach up to pet her she allows it. She will get on my lap during the day but, nothing more than straight fluffing her hair.
I checked with other friends and, cats in general in my circle do not like to be hugged as it seems to be uncomfortable for them.
>> I can pick up Pookie and hug him hard and he squeaks, so does Sqweex, >> when [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Perhaps the "squeek" indicates that you are hurting him. Don't break his > ribs or hug so hard you injure his soft body. Kyla =^..^= - 02 Mar 2008 22:23 GMT "mlbriggs"
>> I can pick up Pookie and hug him hard and he squeaks, so does Sqweex, >> when I hug her hard, and Pipps gives me these LOL squawks. I don't >hug [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Perhaps the "squeek" indicates that you are hurting him. Don't break his > ribs or hug so hard you injure his soft body. Oh, dear no, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't hurt my beloved Cats. No way. I'll just hug them softer from gnow on. :) Thanx Kyla --and snoozing Clowder
Bridget - 03 Mar 2008 08:30 GMT Kyla =^..^= wrote:
> "mlbriggs" >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > No way. > I'll just hug them softer from gnow on. :) I have been thinking of this thread all night long and it has really bothered me. The sound your cats are making is made by pushing air out through the vocal cords. If you are pushing air out and holding them like that, they can't take air in. I know you would never hurt your cats intentionally, and I know you aren't even close to breaking their ribs, but I didn't know if you realized what you were doing. This is not meant to be harsh or a flame. I was just really bothered by what you said, so it may sound severe but my tone is really that of a loving cat slave to another loving cat slave and if no one explains it then you would never know.
Purrs, Bridget
> Thanx > Kyla > --and snoozing Clowder Kyla =^..^= - 05 Mar 2008 06:17 GMT "Bridget">
> I have been thinking of this thread all night long and it has really > bothered me. Really??? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make you worry :(
The sound your cats are making is made by pushing air out
> through the vocal cords. If you are pushing air out and holding them like > that, they can't take air in. I know you would never hurt your cats [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Purrs, > Bridget Thanks Bridget, for thinking of me all night. I still pick them up IF they let me but I don't hug them . I just kiss them on top of their heads and tell them I love them, then, they being squirmy, I put them down gently. Okay, that being said, I hope you get a good night's sleep tonite. No worries, hon. Sweet Dreams, and thank you for your concern. :) Kyla --and Clowder
>> Thanx >> Kyla >> --and snoozing Clowder Christina Websell - 02 Mar 2008 16:34 GMT > I can pick up Pookie and hug him hard and he squeaks, so does Sqweex, when > I hug her hard, and Pipps gives me these LOL squawks. I don't hug Mosey [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Meows and Squeaky HUGS > Kyla Neither of mine would allow it. Kitty Farmcat because she is an ex semi-feral and a very fierce lady indeed, and Boyfriend because he is timid, it would horrify and panic him. We have to have a more gentle relationship. I wait until they ask for affection by getting on to my knee of their own accord when I am sitting in my armchair in the evening. KFC will do this quite often when she is in the mood for a bit of petting (note "in the mood" do not ever try to push myself on her unless I want a slashing.) It is a wonderful and rare occasion when Boyfriend decides to jump into my lap. He kneads every available soft part furiously ;-) and then he settles down on my chest looking into my eyes. Often he will stretch out a soft paw then and touch my face and sometimes put his arm around my neck. I never thought I would get so far with him.
Tweed
Kyla =^..^= - 05 Mar 2008 06:20 GMT "Christina Websell"
> Neither of mine would allow it. Kitty Farmcat because she is an ex > semi-feral and a very fierce lady indeed, and Boyfriend because he is [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Tweed Awwww, that's so sweet. :) I don't hug them any more, don't want to harm them in ANY manner at all. I just kiss the top of their little heads and tell them I love them.
Kyla
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