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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / March 2008Good News/ Bad News
The good news is that we sign the forms Friday to take Rob off hospice until he needs it again. He is almost back to where he was, though the memory, cognition, and behavior processes are slowly going bye-bye. His CNA mostly sits around while supervising Rob in doing his hygiene, food, and other tasks. So it is time to let it go. The forms we'll be signing will let us put Rob back into hospice if/when he needs it. The bad news is that one of the law firms I talked to says that we can't sue UNC Chapel Hill and the four interns that messed up Rob's seizure medications because, although it took months to recover, no permanent damage was caused. I plan on getting a second opinion. Pam S. When you deal with military doctors, you don't stand as much chance as a snowball in hell. My son has Burgers disease, it is a vascular condition. For 4 years, the navy said he was just trying to get out of the service. That was bull. They kept send him to shrinks until his leg got so bad he couldn't walk. They put him out on a medical discharge when he was due to reenlist. Within six months, he lost his leg below the knee. They admitted that someone had overlooked his condition and they were sorry. After threatening to go public with this, he always got copies of records when he could, he is now getting full disability. > The good news is that we sign the forms Friday to take Rob off hospice > until he needs it again. He is almost back to where he was, though the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Pam S. This is all so sad...and my prayers are going out. Love you both Kyla "Granby" > When you deal with military doctors, you don't stand as much chance as a > snowball in hell. My son has Burgers disease, it is a vascular condition. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> Pam S. > When you deal with military doctors, you don't stand as much chance as a > snowball in hell. My son has Burgers disease, it is a vascular condition. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > After threatening to go public with this, he always got copies of records > when he could, he is now getting full disability. Sorry about your son, Granby. It's rough. The army put out information flyers to those who'd been in the Kasimar (if I got the spelling right) district saying that there were a higher incidence of deaths through brain cancer for those who'd been there. Of course Rob was there doing medevac. They were flying through the oil well fires as well as the munitions fires where the US was destroying Iraq weapons of mass destruction. They asked those who had any problems to contact them and gave phone numbers. I called them and let them know that he had brain cancer. They hung up on me. Our problem isn't with the Army this time. It is UNC (university of North Carolina) at Chapel Hill. They messed Rob up after a biopsy last year, at one time giving him four different seizure medications at the same time. Needless to say Rob was pretty ill. I was told to make funeral arrangements for him. Instead of being able to get out of the hospital the next day, Rob was in for over 20 days and only was released because I arranged to have a ramp and railings put in for him. The VA says that those items weren't necessary (they were the only way that UNC would let us take Rob home) and refuses to pay for them. I still owe $2400 to the carpenter who dropped everything to make them for me. I'm trying not to go off on the rant. It gives me a headache and solves nothing. I'm looking at trying different attorneys though and seeing what they say. We got a different answer from each attorney I called when Rob adopted the boys. Pam S. tired of being jerked around by the Jackasses who run the middle bureaucracy in the system "tanadashoes" > "Granby" >> When you deal with military doctors, you don't stand as much > chance as a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> they were sorry. >> After threatening to go public with this, he always >> got copies of records when he could, he is now getting full disability. That sucks so bad Granby. They were 'sorry'?? Geeeeez, what's the matter with these people? I'm so sorry about your son. > Sorry about your son, Granby. It's rough. The army put out information > flyers to those who'd been in the Kasimar (if I got the spelling right) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > called them and let them know that he had brain cancer. They hung up on > me. Those b***ards!!! Our 'kids' & spouses serve our countries and they get treated like crap! > Our problem isn't with the Army this time. It is UNC (university of North > Carolina) at Chapel Hill. They messed Rob up after a biopsy last year, at [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > got a different answer from each attorney I called when Rob adopted the > boys. I wish there was something I could do to help:( This whole thing makes me so mad I can't see straight. It's not right, but does the Govmt care? Hell NO!! > Pam S. tired of being jerked around by the Jackasses who run the middle > bureaucracy in the system I'm with ya there, Sister. (((((HUG)))) Kyla > When you deal with military doctors, you don't stand as much chance as a > snowball in hell. My son has Burgers disease, it is a vascular condition. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > threatening to go public with this, he always got copies of records when he > could, he is now getting full disability. I think it is shameful the way America is treating its veterans nowadays! Partly, of course, we have the moron in the White House to thank, but "veteran's benefits" have been on a downhill slide ever since the end of the Korean War. Seems as though they're good enough to die for their country, but if the don't, lots of luck in surviving the peace! >> The good news is that we sign the forms Friday to take Rob off hospice >> until he needs it again. He is almost back to where he was, though the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> Pam S. "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" > I think it is shameful the way America is treating its veterans nowadays! > Partly, of course, we have the moron in the White House to thank, but > "veteran's benefits" have been on a downhill slide ever since the end of > the Korean War. Seems as though they're good enough to die for their > country, but if the don't, lots of luck in surviving the peace! You hit the nail on the head right there. I see homeless Vets, and I give them what I can, thank them for serving our country, and talk with them. I wish I could do more.. it's a such damn shame, and it makes my cry. I feel so bad for them. NOBODY should be without a roof over their head, food, and the necessities for a decent life. That's ONE of the things I get depressed about. I was left homeless for 6 months in 1976 so I know what it's like. *shakesoffbadmemoriesandtellsselfthisisn'taboutyoukyla)* I only said that because I do care and understand. Prayers, more prayers, massive BIG PURRS and MUCH LOVE I am SO sorry for what you're going thru and I wish I could do more for you. Kyla >> "tanadashoes" >>> The good news is that we sign the forms Friday to take Rob off hospice [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>> >>> Pam S. >> When you deal with military doctors, you don't stand as much chance as a >> snowball in hell. My son has Burgers disease, it is a vascular [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > the Korean War. Seems as though they're good enough to die for their > country, but if the don't, lots of luck in surviving the peace! My parents medical coverage (after Medicare) is TriCare. There is a proposal to reduce benefits and raise co-pays as part of the 2009 budget cuts. An article I read about this indicated they felt justified in making these cuts because many veterans and military retirees are young enough to work in the private sector and thus secure other insurance. Excuse me?! Sure, Dad worked for 10 years as director of security at a private college after he retired from the Marines. But when he retired from there (mandatory at age 65) he didn't convert his group coverage to an individual policy. It was too damned expensive. It's too expensive for *anyone*. Don't these political bozos know companies don't keep contributing towards the cost of private insurance once someone leaves their employ? Have they ever priced the monthly premiums for even the most basic of medical/hospital policies? All that aside, he served his country for 30 years. Three wars and two purple hearts later, this is how they say "thank you". Jill >>> When you deal with military doctors, you don't stand as much chance >>> as a snowball in hell. My son has Burgers disease, it is a vascular [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > enough to work in the private sector and thus secure other insurance. > Excuse me?! My father was a veteran of WW1. It's true he was the family "breadwinner" when he was hospitalized with tubercular-meningitis back during the Depression, but I don't think our "economic status" entered into it. Even though his illness was not service-related, he was a vet, and therefore eligible for veteran's benefits! (Which included hospital and medical care.) The gainful employment thing they talk about is a joke. My son has lost a leg, half a foot, several fingers from his disease, the one they apologized for missing. When he was in the hospital for his first surgery, I asked the doctor at what point could this disease be arrested. His comment rather flippant, "When he loses both hands and feet it will progress no further." I called him a dirty name, which usually isn't my manner but I am not sorry. >>>> When you deal with military doctors, you don't stand as much chance as >>>> a snowball in hell. My son has Burgers disease, it is a vascular [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > eligible for veteran's benefits! (Which included hospital and medical > care.) His comment rather flippant, > "When he loses both hands and feet it will progress no further." I called > him a dirty name, which usually isn't my manner but I am not sorry."> I'd have called him something considerably worse! Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs >>> When you deal with military doctors, you don't stand as much chance as a >>> snowball in hell. My son has Burgers disease, it is a vascular [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Jill Not to mention, at the time your dad joined the military, he was promised health care for life for himself and his spouse, as well as for his children till they were grown. He gave up a lot, and his did a lot in exchange for that promise. He kept his promises and then some. Thankfully the ranks of retired military include many very good lawyers with time on their hands and an inclination to make sure promises are kept. Jo > Not to mention, at the time your dad joined the military, he was promised > health care for life for himself and his spouse, as well as for his [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > with time on their hands and an inclination to make sure promises are > kept. For crying out loud, WE were promised health care for life and all the other bennies. Pam S. glad that the health care is no worse than it is. We won't talk about dental. "tanadashoes" > > "jofirey" >> >> Not to mention, at the time your dad joined the military, he was promised [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> with time on their hands and an inclination to make sure promises are >> kept. Good...please hire one:) > For crying out loud, WE were promised health care for life and all the > other bennies. > > Pam S. glad that the health care is no worse than it is. We won't talk > about dental. Well, even tho my DH wasn't in the military, I still have NO health insurance..can't qualify for Disability since 'I didn't work enough' I'll get my SS benefits when I reach 65, another 2 years. I'll be 63 next month. *sigh* Meowls grrrrrr Kyla > When you deal with military doctors, you don't stand as much chance as a > snowball in hell. My son has Burgers disease, it is a vascular condition. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > threatening to go public with this, he always got copies of records when he > could, he is now getting full disability. Lots and lots of purrs, Polonca and Soncek > The good news is that we sign the forms Friday to take Rob off hospice > until he needs it again. He is almost back to where he was, though the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Pam S. Here's hoping everything works out. Without in any way comparing Rob's condition to my father's, Rob is doing remarkably well so I understand at this point not needing a CNA to sit around and watch him do day-to-day things. It's also got to be a major irritation that he (allegedly) can't do anything about someone screwing up his meds. YES to the second opinion. I also want you to know how much I appreciated the offer of helping me get Persia (and my car) here. When I go home next time it will be after his death and I'll be able to bring her back with me. It creates an entirely new set of complications if I move down here permanently, which I Mom seems to want me to do. When she goes, unless she leaves me the house I'll be homeless. If she leaves me the house that creates a whole bunch of other complications. Isn't anything ever simple?! Purrs for you and Rob are always there, of course. I hope you know that. Jill Jill "jmcquown" < > "tanadashoes" >> The good news is that we sign the forms Friday to take > Rob off hospice [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > do anything about someone screwing up his meds. YES to the second > opinion. I SO totally agree. > I also want you to know how much I appreciated the offer of helping me get > Persia (and my car) here. When I go home next time it will be after his [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jill Jill, this is so sad and hard on you too, yet you're being so loving and caring with Pam.. you're reaching out and caring about her even tho you have big problems of your own. And I see she talks to you too. All the love that is given here is amazing and wonderful. PURRS and Prayers are always here from me too and LOVE Bless your hearts Kyla > The good news is that we sign the forms Friday to take Rob off hospice until > he needs it again. He is almost back to where he was, though the memory, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > medications because, although it took months to recover, no permanent damage > was caused. I plan on getting a second opinion. Perhaps you should ask them to DEFINE "permanent"? Sorry you have to have legal/insurance issues on top of all the medical problems! > tasks. So it is time to let it go. The forms we'll be signing will let us > put Rob back into hospice if/when he needs it. Lots of purrs that it's a very, very long time. > was caused. I plan on getting a second opinion. Absolutely! Pain and suffering certainly count!!! Purrs.  SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com second opinion PLEASE like heck you can't sue over that people are awarded emotional distress every day in the courts this is plan and simple medical malpratice with loss of loss of normal life activity > The good news is that we sign the forms Friday to take Rob off hospice > until he needs it again. He is almost back to where he was, though the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Pam S. "Matthew" > second opinion PLEASE like heck you can't sue over that people are > awarded emotional distress every day in the courts this is plan and > >simple medical malpratice with loss of loss of normal life activity AMEN!!!! Kyla >> The good news is that we sign the forms Friday to take Rob off hospice >> until he needs it again. He is almost back to where he was, though the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> Pam S. > The good news is that we sign the forms Friday to take Rob off hospice until > he needs it again. He is almost back to where he was, though the memory, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Pam S. Purrs and prayers heading your way. Wish we could do more. Sam, supervised by Mistletoe > The good news is that we sign the forms Friday to take Rob off hospice > until he needs it again. He is almost back to where he was, though the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Pam S. ((((((((Pam and Rob))))))))) Joy >The good news is that we sign the forms Friday to take Rob off hospice until >he needs it again. He is almost back to where he was, though the memory, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >medications because, although it took months to recover, no permanent damage >was caused. I plan on getting a second opinion. I'd sue the **** out of them! They stole a year out of Rob's life, and he doesn't have enough left to spare it... it's wonderful to hear that he's got over the trauma to his poor body. Keeping all of you in my prayers... "Karen AKA Kajikit" > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:25:53 -0500, "tanadashoes" > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > he's got over the trauma to his poor body. Keeping all of you in my > prayers... I'd sue the **** out of them too. Idiots. I too am keeping all of you in my prayers HUGs and PURRS Kyla > The good news is that we sign the forms Friday to take Rob off > hospice until he needs it again. He is almost back to where he was, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Pam S. Purrs for things to work out for you and Rob. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > The good news is that we sign the forms Friday to take Rob off hospice until > he needs it again. He is almost back to where he was, though the memory, > cognition, and behavior processes are slowly going bye-bye. His CNA mostly > sits around while supervising Rob in doing his hygiene, food, and other > tasks. So it is time to let it go. The forms we'll be signing will let us > put Rob back into hospice if/when he needs it. I'm so glad that Rob has improved and that you have a way of getting back hospice if required. > The bad news is that one of the law firms I talked to says that we can't sue > UNC Chapel Hill and the four interns that messed up Rob's seizure > medications because, although it took months to recover, no permanent damage > was caused. I plan on getting a second opinion. Yikes - the mind reels. Susan M Otis and Chester Big hugs to you and Rob and your family Kristi > The good news is that we sign the forms Friday to take Rob off hospice until > he needs it again. He is almost back to where he was, though the memory, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Pam S. Lots and lots of purrs and hugs, Polonca and Soncek
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