And neutering never kept out Jake out of fights.
Neutering really put a crimp on Speedy Joe's macho lifestyle.....until
the anaesthetic wore off! He was a holy terror to the neighbourhood
cats- definitely the boss- dogs used to hide when he went past!
Lesley
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Once they have the Tom cat jowls, they have
> them for life.
Hugh's Tigger was neutered late and he has massive tom cat jowls!
Getting a headbutt off him is a strangely worrying experience- it
feels like he could break your hand
Lesley
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> <bastXXXette@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>> The big grey cat IS a tom and his name is Mulder... and the
>>> white/tabby cat is also a tom
>> I hope she'll have them neutered soon!
> He may very well be neutered. Once they have the Tom cat jowls,
> they have them for life. And neutering never kept out Jake out of
> fights.
Well, I wasn't referring to their appearance, only to their fertility.
I thought only an intact male was called a "tom". If a male had the
chance to develop jowls before being neutered, he's not still called
a tom *after* neutering, is he?
Or are you just saying that Karen might be wrong in assuming these cats
are still intact, just because they look like tom cats?
Joyce

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jofirey - 24 Feb 2008 22:17 GMT
> > <bastXXXette@sonic.net> wrote in message
>
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> Or are you just saying that Karen might be wrong in assuming these cats
> are still intact, just because they look like tom cats?
I have to admit that while I'm guessing Tom and Queen refer to intact adult
cats, I really don't know what neutered one are called
Jo
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 24 Feb 2008 23:37 GMT
> I have to admit that while I'm guessing Tom and Queen refer to intact adult
> cats, I really don't know what neutered one are called
I don't know either. I think Tom and Queen are breeder terms that have
spread into the general population. I just call neutered cats boy and
girl kitties.
JOyce

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William Hamblen - 25 Feb 2008 00:27 GMT
>I don't know either. I think Tom and Queen are breeder terms that have
>spread into the general population. I just call neutered cats boy and
>girl kitties.
Tomcat, it least in print, dates to 1809, according to the Online
Etymology Dictionary.
Marina - 25 Feb 2008 05:30 GMT
> I have to admit that while I'm guessing Tom and Queen refer to intact adult
> cats, I really don't know what neutered one are called
who was it that called a neutered tom a tim. lol.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 25 Feb 2008 19:50 GMT
>> I have to admit that while I'm guessing Tom and Queen refer to intact
>> adult cats, I really don't know what neutered one are called
>
> who was it that called a neutered tom a tim. lol.
Depriving them of their reproductive powers doesn't make them any less
toms and/or queens! It's a personality thing that has very little to do
with gonads (or the lack of them).
tanadashoes - 25 Feb 2008 20:20 GMT
>> I have to admit that while I'm guessing Tom and Queen refer to intact
>> adult cats, I really don't know what neutered one are called
>
> who was it that called a neutered tom a tim. lol.
I picked that up from Krista and Loen (her other half, both wonderful
people) who live in British Columbia. I think it works perfectly, though
I'm still working on what a neutered queen should be called.
Pam S. who has four spay jobs and four Tims in the house
Marina - 26 Feb 2008 04:49 GMT
> I picked that up from Krista and Loen (her other half, both wonderful
> people) who live in British Columbia. I think it works perfectly, though
> I'm still working on what a neutered queen should be called.
>
> Pam S. who has four spay jobs and four Tims in the house
one tim and one princess here.

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