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Gaah! Another leg cramp this morning. Also, another set of thunderstorms. After I massaged out te cramp, and stretched back out, Little Feet and Little Boy came zooming onto the bed. In exchange for protection from the scary thunder booms, they draped themselves across my poor abused leg. Works for me... Hugs and Purrs, Mark  SignatureProof of Sanity Forged Upon Request A furry heating pad , sounds great to me. > Gaah! Another leg cramp this morning. Also, another set of thunderstorms. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Hugs and Purrs, > Mark > Gaah! Another leg cramp this morning. Also, another set of thunderstorms. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Hugs and Purrs, > Mark I'm glad it does. This sounds weird, but a doctor who has a regular column in my newspaper says he has received letters from hundreds of people who found that putting an unwrapped bar of soap under the bottom sheet of the bed, near the leg area, prevented leg cramps. If you have a lot of them, it might be worth trying. Joy > This sounds weird, but a doctor who has a regular column in my newspaper > says he has received letters from hundreds of people who found that putting > an unwrapped bar of soap under the bottom sheet of the bed, near the leg > area, prevented leg cramps. If you have a lot of them, it might be worth > trying. That certainly does sound weird. It reminds me of what a neighbor told me once, when I had a case of tendonitis in my elbow several years ago. She told me to put some chalk on the floor under the bed, and that this would heal my tendonitis more quickly. Apparently (according to her) this was a Feng Shui concept. I had my doubts... Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. >> This sounds weird, but a doctor who has a regular column in my newspaper >> says he has received letters from hundreds of people who found that putting [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > would heal my tendonitis more quickly. Apparently (according to her) this > was a Feng Shui concept. I had my doubts... We once had a pet rat with ascending spinal paralysis. An extremely alternative therapist once came to the flat - his angle was basically applied Crowleyan magick. He treated it by drawing sigils on a piece of paper which he left in the rat's cage. The rat did seem to perk up a bit for a few weeks. Maybe it was just a very nutritious piece of paper, as he did what rats usually do with it. ==== j a c k at c a m p i n . m e . u k === <http://www.campin.me.uk> ==== Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557 CD-ROMs and free stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts >> Gaah! Another leg cramp this morning. Also, another set of >> thunderstorms. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Joy Absolutely true. In fact a few weeks ago my mother complained about leg cramps, so I told her to put a bar of soap under her sheet. She thought I was nuts, but tried it and it works. Google soap + leg cramps and you'll be amazed at how many hits you get. It also works on restless leg syndrome. Bobble > "Joy" <toastie@real-me.net> wrote in >> This sounds weird, but a doctor who has a regular column in my >> newspaper says he has received letters from hundreds of people who >> found that putting an unwrapped bar of soap under the bottom sheet of >> the bed, near the leg area, prevented leg cramps. If you have a lot >> of them, it might be worth trying. > Absolutely true. In fact a few weeks ago my mother complained about leg > cramps, so I told her to put a bar of soap under her sheet. She thought > I was nuts, but tried it and it works. Google soap + leg cramps and > you'll be amazed at how many hits you get. It also works on restless > leg syndrome. OK, so does anyone know *why* it works? The restless leg thing is something I will almost certainly get as I age. My mother has it and needs to be on medication for it. I get it sometimes when I'm tired, but so far, it hasn't kept me awake. In fact, I usually only get it when I'm not in bed. But I know that has to be it, because it feels just like how people describe it ("like having worms inside your legs" is the most colorful description I've heard). I figure it'll get worse the older I get, but maybe I'll try the soap. Is any particular brand preferable? :) (Sorry! I can't help but be a smartass about this, even if it does work.) Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. > > "Joy" <toastie@real-me.net> wrote in > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Joyce Nobody knows how or why it works, but the thousands of people it has "cured" don't care. Here's one of the interesting sites: http://www.reallans.com/mmml.shtml?/002240.shtml Some say no Dial or Dove, yet others say it doesn't matter which brand, they all work. One of my mom's friends with restless legs keeps a bar of soap handy beside his tv chair. Sure is drug-free and inexpensive. Bobble > bastXXXette@sonic.net wrote in >> OK, so does anyone know *why* it works? > Nobody knows how or why it works, but the thousands of people it has > "cured" don't care. Here's one of the interesting sites: > http://www.reallans.com/mmml.shtml?/002240.shtml > Some say no Dial or Dove, yet others say it doesn't matter which brand, > they all work. One of my mom's friends with restless legs keeps a bar > of soap handy beside his tv chair. Sure is drug-free and inexpensive. Fascinating! Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. On Feb 16, 8:46 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > > bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote in > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > -- > To send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. Not to inject the annoying voice of reality into "leg cramps" (I believe that is original term posted by Mark) solutions.....but on a personal note, I used to be having them regularly while horizontal in bed. After reading that cramping leg muscles could be caused by lack of calcium (i.e. "milk", which I enthusiastically hate) I drink fat-free milk in some form when the first leg cramp appears and in about a day or two have no more of them till I again revert back to my old non-milk-intake ways, when the leg cramps begin again. This is no weirder than the soap remedies IMHO and it works for me. > > bastXXXette@sonic.net wrote in > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > they all work. One of my mom's friends with restless legs keeps a bar > > of soap handy beside his tv chair. Sure is drug-free and inexpensive. The only non-hygiene use I'd previously heard of for Dial soap was to wrap a few bars in sone sort of net (old nylon hosiery was suggested) and tie them to your garden fence at intervals, to discourage deer from raiding your kitchen garden. (I've no idea whether it works, I heard it from a friend of mine who has a small farm in Northern Minnesota.) > Fascinating! > > Joyce Take it from someone who lost four holly bushes, three rose bushes and 12 3ft high evergreens, it doesn't help even tying them on the bush itself. >> > bastXXXette@sonic.net wrote in >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> >> Joyce > Take it from someone who lost four holly bushes, three rose bushes and 12 > 3ft high evergreens, it doesn't help even tying them on the bush itself. Okay, point taken, although the gardens mentioned were those growing veggies for human consumption. Are you sure it was deer? I would have thought they would avoid both the thorns on rose bushes and the sharp spiny leaves on holly! It was deer. I almost killed my husband for taking pictures before he chased them off. Granted he was in a wheel chair but, he could have saved some, for that round if he had just used the bull horn. Oh yeah, they like veggies but we have a gazillion rabbits that eat them, the deer don't get much of that. >> Take it from someone who lost four holly bushes, three rose bushes and 12 >> 3ft high evergreens, it doesn't help even tying them on the bush itself. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > thought they would avoid both the thorns on rose bushes and the sharp > spiny leaves on holly! > It was deer. I almost killed my husband for taking pictures before he > chased them off. Granted he was in a wheel chair but, he could have > saved some, for that round if he had just used the bull horn. They may be cute but they are also a big pain in the neck. > OK, so does anyone know *why* it works? . . > Joyce It's called the placebo effect. It is what makes drug testing so difficult. People will invariably find relief where they are told it will be found if they trust the source. If you read almost any drug literature you will see the test results are compared to the placebo not compared to nothing. Drug tests are done double blind so even the person handing you the "bar of soap" wont know if it is dial or ivory. The placebo always effects some relief so any fair test compares itself against that. I enjoyed the link where a supposed college graduate AND professional scientist said the bar of soap worked for them. It seems even the scientist never heard of the scientific method. Anyway what I am really getting at here is that bars of soap wont cure RLS or cramps. If you want to cure cramps and RLS you should purhcase my cramp-away pads. They have been clinically tested to relieve cramps. You merely place the $20 pad on the floor in the next room from where you sleep and cramps will be gone. A new pad once a month assures symptoms never return. Just contact: Outsider Industries Gold will stay Avenue Paymeecash, Mo 00000 please send cash! >> OK, so does anyone know *why* it works? >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > please send cash! Mine work better! They cost $40! Honestly, I overheard two men in a drugstore discussing the pros and cons of some alleged cure for arthritis - 'Oh, yes, it really works. Not the ones they sell here for $X, of course, but the ones they sell at <Other Store> for $3X, they really work! <sigh> And in a drugstore, too, where they could chat with a pharmacist or pick up one of the public health brochures on common ailments. OTOH, you can get a lot of, ummm, unproven cures in a drugstore, and most of them aren't behind the counter with the prescription drugs. Cheryl >>> OK, so does anyone know *why* it works? >>> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Cheryl Yep, cost more, must be better. Ya know, I don't give a rats behind if it is mental, if it works and does not further harm the person, that is the point. For years people laughed at me for taking garlic to help prevent colds and a few other things. Now, suddenly it is being given by some doctors. My grandfather took an aspirin a die for years. Said it made "sense" to him to help thin blood as you got older, he lived to be 95. Maybe it wasn't the aspirin but he at least was trying something. >> OK, so does anyone know *why* it works? >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > please send cash! > Ya know, I don't give a rats behind if it is mental, if it works and does > not further harm the person, that is the point. For years people laughed at [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > older, he lived to be 95. Maybe it wasn't the aspirin but he at least was > trying something. I'm with you - "anecdotal" evidence or not, "placebo effect" or not, if it works for you, and isn't in some way harmful, why let people talk you out of it? The longer one lives, the more of the once scorned "old wives' remedies" one sees come back into favor (often with supporting scientific evidence)! I make an arthritis rub in stuff out of bees wax, habanera peppers, and olive oil. Worked so good for me, my doctor wanted some and even though I have moved away, he still calls when he needs some! "Go figure. >> Ya know, I don't give a rats behind if it is mental, if it works and does >> not further harm the person, that is the point. For years people laughed [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > remedies" one sees come back into favor (often with supporting scientific > evidence)! > Anyway what I am really getting at here is that bars of soap wont cure > RLS or cramps. If you want to cure cramps and RLS you should purhcase my [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > please send cash! lol. good one, andy. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. >> Gaah! Another leg cramp this morning. Also, another set of >> thunderstorms. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Joy I place unwrapped bars of soap in my dresser drawers. It keeps any musty odor away. Sachet works too. I understand leg cramps are caused by lack of calcium. MLB > I place unwrapped bars of soap in my dresser drawers. It keeps any musty > odor away. Sachet works too. I understand leg cramps are caused by lack > of calcium. MLB Yep, I stopped eating yogart daily and got horrible leg cramps. Calcium supplements work if you're not getting enough in your diet. Rhonda >>> Gaah! Another leg cramp this morning. Also, another set of >>> thunderstorms. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > musty odor away. Sachet works too. I understand leg cramps are > caused by lack of calcium. MLB If you hang a bar of soap on your front door it stops lions coming in. I tried it and it works, not a single lion entered the house. ;-) SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > >>> Gaah! Another leg cramp this morning. Also, another set of > >>> thunderstorms. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Adrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) > Cats leave pawprints on your hearthttp://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk ROFL Adrian....same theory I used to keep elephants out of my backyard in south FL...the iguanas did the trick for years, LOL. |
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