> > i'm glad we cleared the air about the kibble incident. i definitely
> > showed them i'm not angry about it. also, the cleaner's assistant was
> > easy to forgive, because he happens to be a gorgeous young man. *grin*
>
> Down girl! ;-)
> --
U go Girl!
>> > i'm glad we cleared the air about the kibble incident. i definitely
>> > showed them i'm not angry about it. also, the cleaner's assistant was
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>
> Helen M
> In the theme of Marina, I went to see Holiday on Ice with a friend
> last night. I paid scant attention to what a lot of the female skaters
> were doing, but I know *EXactly* what the male skaters were doing...
> and their costumes enabled me to really appreciate the finer asthetics
> of their bodies... it was a *VERY* pleasent 2 1/2
> hours .....*ahem*....
> :: Helen M goes off to take a cold shower::
Last week I went to see a Russian folkdance performance - it's a very
famous dance company but the name escapes me at the moment. I'll bet
someone here will know it.
Anyway, I found myself watching the men a lot more than the women,
too, but for a less happy reason than yours, Helen. It was because
the men did all the interesting dancing. The women's dancing was
mostly decorative - a lot of cute little steps, and waving of
handkerchiefs and so forth.
Which is not to say that the women didn't work hard - it was clear
that they did. And they had to be very skilled, as their steps were
quite complex. And yet, their moves were not meant to show off
strength or agility, which is what I find exciting to look at. The
men leapt, spun, and did amazing, athletic stunts, bending their
bodies in ways that normal people usually don't (ie, can't).
I can't say I was left needing a cold shower, but it was wonderful
to look at. I just wish that I could see women doing some of the
same things. It's not like women can't do that stuff.
Joyce

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mlbriggs - 15 Feb 2008 19:51 GMT
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:24:35 +0000, bastXXXette wrote:
> > In the theme of Marina, I went to see Holiday on Ice with a friend last
> > night. I paid scant attention to what a lot of the female skaters were
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> Joyce
Do you ever watch the gymnasts? Some of those training for the Olympics
are fantastic! MLB
leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 15 Feb 2008 21:06 GMT
> Do you ever watch the gymnasts? Some of those training for the Olympics
> are fantastic! MLB-
No, but I spend a *LOT* of time watching ice hockey!! ;o)
Helen M
Jack Campin - bogus address - 16 Feb 2008 01:41 GMT
> Last week I went to see a Russian folkdance performance - it's a very
> famous dance company but the name escapes me at the moment. I'll bet
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> mostly decorative - a lot of cute little steps, and waving of
> handkerchiefs and so forth.
Much of that stuff isn't originally Russian, but came from the Caucasus
(whose people the Russians have been trying to obliterate since the time
of Catherine the Great, with a brief hiatus under the Communists, but
the Russian consensus was always that they had a great natural sense of
rhythm). You motivated me to go look for some of that on YouTube again.
There's a lot there. Search under "chechen", "cecen", "adige", "cerkez",
"abhaz", "apsua" - the comments are mostly in Turkish, and the Turkish
names for these peoples are used more often on YouTube. It's usually
obvious what the related links are.
There are an *amazing* number of Caucasian guys who seem to spend their
lives compensating for the lack of iridescent green feathers on their bums.
Like this (Chechen dancers): http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eCoPImYq2X8 ,
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rb0Mcsj7zAI
An Ingush dance where the macho stuff is at the end (the guys start out
apparently moving on wheels): http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gFYn4slCCTs
Chechen exiles in Jordan (you can see how this could meld seamlessly
into breakdance, and there is in fact a genre of Chechen rap for exactly
that): http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FyGZ6Mh7vRo
Lezgian dance from Dagestan done by a group from Azerbaijan (there is
another copy with a less inflammatory title, but the nutty opinions go
with the territory): http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ySKueJNkWQ0
A rather wonderful spoof of Circassian dance (follow the related links
and you get penguinized interpretations of Kurdish, Black Sea, Abkhaz
and Turkish dance as well): http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TVp7uz3-aqs
You get the same sort of macho dance south of the Caucasus too. Here's
one (with much older dancers) from the Black Sea region of Turkey, maybe
a Greek dance originally: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_mhrWLgYRM8
And this line dance, probably from the Laz minority of north-east
Turkey: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PWtUs9EhiVo
And a bunch of guys from the Black Sea region of Turkey in a really
terrific demonstration of how folk dance can continue in the modern
world (I've seen Black Sea tourists doing exactly this in a different
part of Turkey): http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uPirZRST3PQ
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