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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 04 Feb 2008 02:33 GMT
There's this pet food store near my house where I buy cat food,
litter, etc. I always go on Sundays because a local feral-rescue
group has an adoption in front of the store and I like to visit
the kitties.

Today I went and they were just breaking down (it was late in
the afternoon and time to pack up), but a few cats were still in
their cages. I stuck my finger in one and the kitty rubbed his
head all over my finger. I asked the volunteers if I could take
him out and hold him, and they said yes.

The cat immediately shoved his head under my chin, started purring,
and wouldn't budge, except to touch noses with me and rub his head
all over my face. He was a little darling. The next thing I knew, I
was offering to foster him!!

At first, the volunteers said they had someone. Then they said that
they actually hadn't asked the guy (ie, the fosterer) yet, so if I
wanted to, I could take him tonight. They know I already have 3 cats
at home, because I visit them almost every week and talk to them all
the time. They said that if it turns out to be too much, they do have
other fosterers who could take him. And of course, he could get adopted.

He is now under my desk and won't come out. I have the office door
closed so my 3 vultures can't come near him, but either he smells them,
or else he's just nervous about being in a new place. I hope he relaxes
soon. I tried to play with him but he's still too nervous, so I'm
leaving him alone. He's about 8-9 months old, so still a baby. But I
put a bit of catnip down to see if I could entice him out.

Am I insane or what? I'm already overwhelmed keeping up with 3!!

He is awfully cute, though. :)

Joyce
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Joy - 04 Feb 2008 02:54 GMT
> There's this pet food store near my house where I buy cat food,
> litter, etc. I always go on Sundays because a local feral-rescue
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>
> Joyce

I think it's a given that all of us who are slaves to our furry babies are
insane.  That's why I stay away from pet stores or any place where cats or
dogs are available for adoption.  When my husband was alive, he could steer
me away from the children with their kittens or puppies in a box outside the
supermarket.  Now I have to do that myself.  Fortunately, I don't see those
much any more.

Joy
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 04 Feb 2008 03:04 GMT
> I think it's a given that all of us who are slaves to our furry babies are
> insane.  That's why I stay away from pet stores or any place where cats or
> dogs are available for adoption.  When my husband was alive, he could steer
> me away from the children with their kittens or puppies in a box outside the
> supermarket.  Now I have to do that myself.  Fortunately, I don't see those
> much any more.

OK, OK, but I haven't adopted him. I'm only fostering! I am not going to
adopt him. You heard me, right? Not going to adopt him. I said *not* going
to adopt him... :)

Joyce
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Matthew - 04 Feb 2008 03:26 GMT
> > I think it's a given that all of us who are slaves to our furry babies
> > are
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>
> Joyce

Joyce are you trying to fool us or yourself ;-)

After losing Spirit last week. I know the powers will put me in the right
place at the right time looks like they did that for you.  Pictures please
Marina - 04 Feb 2008 04:57 GMT
> OK, OK, but I haven't adopted him. I'm only fostering! I am not going to
> adopt him. You heard me, right? Not going to adopt him. I said *not* going
> to adopt him... :)

LOL. Famous last words.

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Yowie - 04 Feb 2008 05:37 GMT
> > I think it's a given that all of us who are slaves to our furry babies
> > are
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> adopt him. You heard me, right? Not going to adopt him. I said *not* going
> to adopt him... :)

Sure.... you keep telling yourself that as long as you need to :-)

yowie
Kyla  =^..^= - 05 Feb 2008 00:17 GMT
"Yowie" <
> <bastXXXette>
>> Joy <>>
>> > I think it's a given that all of us who are slaves to our furry babies
>> > are
>> > insane.

Oh I totally agree:)

That's why I stay away from pet stores or any place where cats
>> > or
>> > dogs are available for adoption.  When my husband was alive, he could
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>
> yowie

LOL...
PUUUUUrs all around
Kyla
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Joy - 04 Feb 2008 06:52 GMT
> > I think it's a given that all of us who are slaves to our furry babies
> > are
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>
> Joyce

Right.  And now for a complete change of subject, totally off topic.  My
sister and brother-in-law have a Golden Retriever.  They live in a small
town and are good friends with the local animal control officer, who also
runs the local shelter.  They got a call from her, asking if they'd foster a
Golden Retriever for a couple of weeks.  A woman wanted to claim him, and,
while she couldn't prove it, she knew this woman was guilty of animal abuse.
She wanted to be able to tell the woman the dog was not available.  My
sister made it perfectly clear that they would keep the dog for two weeks,
but not one minute more.  That was five years ago.  I don't think I need to
finish the story.  ;-)

Joy
Adrian - 04 Feb 2008 11:33 GMT
>>> I think it's a given that all of us who are slaves to our furry
>>> babies are
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> story.  ;-)
> Joy

I'm looking after Snoopy while her slave finds a new home, it has only taken
15 years so far.
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Steve Touchstone - 09 Feb 2008 10:38 GMT
>Right.  And now for a complete change of subject, totally off topic.  My
>sister and brother-in-law have a Golden Retriever.  They live in a small
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>but not one minute more.  That was five years ago.  I don't think I need to
>finish the story.  ;-)

yeah, my sister has been looking after a dog for one of my nieces
friends while she's in college. I'm not sure what the girl is studying
but the dog has lived with my sister going on five years.
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Adrian - 04 Feb 2008 11:27 GMT
>> I think it's a given that all of us who are slaves to our furry
>> babies are insane.  That's why I stay away from pet stores or any
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>
> Joyce

Fostering? Yeh right. Congratulations on your new owner.
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leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 04 Feb 2008 16:52 GMT
> OK, OK, but I haven't adopted him. I'm only fostering! I am not going to
> adopt him. You heard me, right? Not going to adopt him. I said *not* going
> to adopt him... :)
>
> Joyce

ROTFLMAO!!!!!  Yeah, right Joyce. What *EVER* you say!!!

I was only ever going to foster Sir William. And Pandora. And Cleo.
And Miss Lily Whiskers.....

Helen M
Stormmee - 04 Feb 2008 20:58 GMT
of all the people in the world you shouldn't deceive yourself, Lee

>  > I think it's a given that all of us who are slaves to our furry babies are
>  > insane.  That's why I stay away from pet stores or any place where cats or
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Christina Websell - 04 Feb 2008 23:02 GMT
> OK, OK, but I haven't adopted him. I'm only fostering! I am not going to
> adopt him. You heard me, right? Not going to adopt him. I said *not* going
> to adopt him... :)

Fostering is a great thing to do.  It probably needs a certain type of
temperament in the fosterer though;  to remain detached and see the bigger
picture.  I don't think I fit that, after all Boyfriend was an absolute
definite for the cat's home once I had tamed him a bit.  That was 5 years
ago now..
Good luck with fostering him, Joyce ;-)

Tweed
Outsider - 04 Feb 2008 23:42 GMT
> > I think it's a given that all of us who are slaves to our furry
> > babies are insane.  That's why I stay away from pet stores or any
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>
> Joyce

not going to adopt him.  Ok.. he he he he
Steve Touchstone - 09 Feb 2008 10:38 GMT
>OK, OK, but I haven't adopted him. I'm only fostering! I am not going to
>adopt him. You heard me, right? Not going to adopt him. I said *not* going
>to adopt him... :)

Sure, I'm sure we all believe you. Named him yet? ;-)
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Granby - 04 Feb 2008 03:49 GMT
Awwww, cat slaves have big hearts!!  How does it feel to have four cats now?
> There's this pet food store near my house where I buy cat food,
> litter, etc. I always go on Sundays because a local feral-rescue
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>
> Joyce
Stormmee - 04 Feb 2008 21:00 GMT
if you want to find out I will be right over with Barbie, Lee
> Awwww, cat slaves have big hearts!!  How does it feel to have four cats now?
> > There's this pet food store near my house where I buy cat food,
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> > To send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name.
Granby - 04 Feb 2008 21:29 GMT
Hey, I am not a good salesman Lee, I just pitched Barbie to a friend and no
go.  I am sure there will be a furball when the time is right.  But I
couldn't sell an ice box to a desert trader let alone an Eskimo.  Someday I
will find my calling.
> if you want to find out I will be right over with Barbie, Lee
>> Awwww, cat slaves have big hearts!!  How does it feel to have four cats
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Kyla  =^..^= - 05 Feb 2008 04:55 GMT
LOL@ this whole thread
Kyla

"Granby"
> Hey, I am not a good salesman Lee, I just pitched Barbie to a friend and
> no go.  I am sure there will be a furball when the time is right.  But I
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hopitus - 04 Feb 2008 04:23 GMT
On Feb 3, 7:33 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
> There's this pet food store near my house where I buy cat food,
> litter, etc. I always go on Sundays because a local feral-rescue
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> Joyce
> --
After a most unexpectedly exciting SuperBowl game took up
most of evening, I see that Joyce has taken in a helpless
vagrant (she swears temporarily). I have an ad taped up in
my kitchen that has a glaring black cat (he's pretty though)
and says, "it is said that cats guard the Gates of Heaven"
and underneath it, "Make sure you get in!" advertising a
particular brand of gooshy food....Joyce will have a fast
trip over the Bridge to the Gates, I think,,with all her
former owners accompanying her.
May our Creator heap blessings on you, Joyce;
not to mention Bast.
Marina - 04 Feb 2008 04:48 GMT
> Am I insane or what? I'm already overwhelmed keeping up with 3!!
>
> He is awfully cute, though. :)

Well, then. What can you do? When you happen to find a cat that is
actually cute, you have to take him, don't you. ;) Sounds like a good
enough argument to me. Hope he relaxes soon and the other cats are kind
to him. What does he look like? Any pictures?

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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 04 Feb 2008 05:10 GMT

>> Am I insane or what? I'm already overwhelmed keeping up with 3!!
>>
>> He is awfully cute, though. :)

> Well, then. What can you do? When you happen to find a cat that is
> actually cute, you have to take him, don't you. ;) Sounds like a good
> enough argument to me. Hope he relaxes soon and the other cats are kind
> to him. What does he look like? Any pictures?

No pictures, because I don't have a camera. He's mostly white, with a
couple of tiny patches of black on his head and back. Actually, he's not
the prettiest cat in the world. But he was *so sweet* when I was holding
him this afternoon! He's small, about 9 months old, but looks younger to
me. The feral group says he was born in May '07, though.

I had to do some cooking (not involving the world-famous pork chop),
so I left him alone for about an hour. Came back in and now he's in his
cat carrier, shoved up against the back, furthest from the door. He's
seriously nervous, poor baby. I'm just going to let him do his thing
until he decides he's comfortable coming over to me. But if he doesn't
warm up in a day or two, I'll call the volunteer to see what the issue
is. She said he was very affectionate, so maybe he really is creeped out
to be in a houseful of cats, even though he can't see them and they
can't get near him.

His name is Everett, by the way. Apparently he got named that because
he's always trying to climb people, even when they're standing, so that
reminded someone of Everest, which morphed into Everett.

Go ahead and tease me all you like - my landlord would have me out on
my ear if he know I had 4 cats in here!! He doesn't even know I have 3.
So I have to give Everett back. I really hope he gets adopted soon. He's
really a nice cat.

Joyce
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Steve Touchstone - 09 Feb 2008 10:38 GMT
>His name is Everett, by the way. Apparently he got named that because
>he's always trying to climb people, even when they're standing, so that
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>So I have to give Everett back. I really hope he gets adopted soon. He's
>really a nice cat.

aww, Everett. So he had a name when he came to you. I don't know if
that counts, though. Once you start thinking of various names which
you think are a better fit, that's when he becomes your cat. I've had
some recent experience with that phenomena, as I had Princess and
Furby named before I even got them home.
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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 09 Feb 2008 10:57 GMT
> aww, Everett. So he had a name when he came to you. I don't know if
> that counts, though. Once you start thinking of various names which
> you think are a better fit, that's when he becomes your cat.

He is so not an Everett. Everett is an older, dignified gentleman. This
Everett is a goofball, a baby, and not especially dignified, although he
does prance around like he owns the place, which I guess has its own
brand of dignity. Nothing like the entitlement attitude of a young male
feline. :)

Joyce.
polonca12000 - 10 Feb 2008 22:33 GMT
>  > aww, Everett. So he had a name when he came to you. I don't know if
>  > that counts, though. Once you start thinking of various names which
>  > you think are a better fit, that's when he becomes your cat.

>bastXXXette@sonic.net wrote:
> He is so not an Everett. Everett is an older, dignified gentleman. This
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>
> Joyce.

I'm glad to hear things are going so well.
Best wishes,
POlonca and Soncek
Granby - 10 Feb 2008 22:36 GMT
Hang in there, he will grow into his name.

>>  > aww, Everett. So he had a name when he came to you. I don't know if
>>  > that counts, though. Once you start thinking of various names which
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> Best wishes,
> POlonca and Soncek
Sherry - 04 Feb 2008 04:51 GMT
On Feb 3, 8:33 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
> There's this pet food store near my house where I buy cat food,
> litter, etc. I always go on Sundays because a local feral-rescue
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> --
> To send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name.

Awww! Congratulations. It was "meant to be". I hope you'll find that
four is not much
different than taking care of 3, once new kitty settles in. Does he
have a name?

Sherry
Susan M - 04 Feb 2008 05:04 GMT
> Am I insane or what? I'm already overwhelmed keeping up with 3!!
>
> He is awfully cute, though. :)

A certifiable nut case ... but you're among friends.  I look forward to
hearing more about your little guy!

Susan M
Otis and Chester
Yowie - 04 Feb 2008 05:36 GMT
> There's this pet food store near my house where I buy cat food,
> litter, etc. I always go on Sundays because a local feral-rescue
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>
> He is awfully cute, though. :)

Clearly you have 'sucker' written in cat script on your forehead too!
Welcome to the club, you are in very good company.

Any names yet?

You do realise you are keeping the little guy, right?

yowie
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 04 Feb 2008 08:39 GMT
> Clearly you have 'sucker' written in cat script on your forehead too!
> Welcome to the club, you are in very good company.

> Any names yet?

> You do realise you are keeping the little guy, right?

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Joyce
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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 04 Feb 2008 08:47 GMT
Every time I come into the office, Everett has found a new hiding
place. First time, it was deep under my desk, against the back wall,
behind a bunch of cables. I didn't like that - there's a whole lot
of electricity back there - so I pulled him out. I also hoped he would
relax and let me hold him. He did let me hold him, but didn't seem to
relax much, and after I put him down, I felt a small wet spot on my
t-shirt which I believe is cat pee. Poor kitty! :(

The second time I came in, he was scrunched up in the back of his
carrier, as I posted before.

The third time, I couldn't find him at all. He wasn't in the carrier.
Wasn't under the desk. Wasn't in any of the places that Licky likes to
hide. I looked all over. And then suddenly, I saw, among the books on
my bookshelf, a stripey tail. He was tucked away on top of some books!

That was 45 minutes ago, and I've been sitting here, reading email and
playing Sudoku, and he hasn't moved an inch. He also hasn't made a
sound. I'm actually a little concerned - this doesn't sound at all how
he was described by the volunteers. They said he was active and playful,
affectionate (which I saw this afternoon), and fine being around other
cats. I'm thinking he feels scared because the scents of my other cats
are all around. What else could it be? Unless he's gotten sick? I might
call the rescue org tomorrow, if he doesn't seem any more outgoing by
the morning.

Joyce

PS - I can't adopt him. I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I
can't I can't I can't I can't I can't...
Bettina - 04 Feb 2008 10:35 GMT
On 4 Feb., 09:47, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
> Every time I come into the office, Everett has found a new hiding
> place. First time, it was deep under my desk, against the back wall,
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> PS - I can't adopt him. I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I
> can't I can't I can't I can't I can't...

Well, he needs time to adapt to the new place. There are a lot of
"othercat" scents in the air.
And - do you know how long he was used to have contact to the rescue
people before he was so close with them? He needs more time and a
couple of nights to explore the premises.
Let the other cats meet him, he needs to see what smells like cat.<g>

Everett is a wonderful name. He choose you. I strongly believe that.
And - if your landlord doesn`t know about your three ones, there is
not much difference
if he doesn`t know about your 4 ones.<g> Makes sense to me.

love
Bettina
Granby - 04 Feb 2008 13:37 GMT
Yes dear, we your friends hear you loud and clear.  If I could sing, I would
comfort you with the old song "I'VE HEARD THAT SONG BEFORE'!  But, since I
can't sing I will just say YES DEAR WE YOUR FRIENDS HEAR YOU" and let it go
at that.
> On 4 Feb., 09:47, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
>> Every time I come into the office, Everett has found a new hiding
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> love
> Bettina
Stormmee - 04 Feb 2008 21:07 GMT
and my friend you are beginning to see why I howl laughing about your
assimilation, Lee
> Yes dear, we your friends hear you loud and clear.  If I could sing, I would
> comfort you with the old song "I'VE HEARD THAT SONG BEFORE'!  But, since I
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> > love
> > Bettina
Matthew - 04 Feb 2008 21:24 GMT
> Every time I come into the office, Everett has found a new hiding
> place. First time, it was deep under my desk, against the back wall,
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> PS - I can't adopt him. I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I
> can't I can't I can't I can't I can't...

Joyce  once again  are you trying to convince us or yourself.  Stop lying to
yourself  you are a new slave SURRENDER NOW.  To quote a part  famous star
trek quote.  Resistance is futile. Your life as it has been is over. From
this time forward, you will service us
I am sure he was talking about cats not the borg
Granby - 04 Feb 2008 21:39 GMT
Yepper that's right, what he said!

>> Every time I come into the office, Everett has found a new hiding
>> place. First time, it was deep under my desk, against the back wall,
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> From this time forward, you will service us
> I am sure he was talking about cats not the borg
Christina Websell - 04 Feb 2008 23:55 GMT
> Every time I come into the office, Everett has found a new hiding
> place. First time, it was deep under my desk, against the back wall,
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> call the rescue org tomorrow, if he doesn't seem any more outgoing by
> the morning.

Please don't call the rescue org tomorrow.  He's terrified just yet. Give
him a couple of weeks to relax, at least.

> PS - I can't adopt him. I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I
> can't I can't I can't I can't I can't...

You don't have to if you can't.  Fostering him is enough, if you make it
clear to the rescue that they have to continue trying to get him a permanent
home while you care for him.  Don't panic.

Tweed
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 05 Feb 2008 00:27 GMT
> Please don't call the rescue org tomorrow.  He's terrified just yet. Give
> him a couple of weeks to relax, at least.

Even if I did call them, it would just be to discuss what's happening.
I wasn't implying I would be calling them to give him back. He's not
bothering me hiding under desks and so on. I'm just concerned about him.

The rescue volunteers told me he was active and playful, and nobody said
I should expect him to act scared and hide a lot at first. So I just want
compare what's happening with him now to how he's acted in other foster
homes, that's all. If they say he's done that before, then I won't worry
about it, I'll just give him time to relax, and gently coax him out of
his hiding spot with low-pressure enticements. But if they say he's never
acted like that before and that he's usually a very social cat, this
could indicate something's wrong. So I want to make sure.

>> PS - I can't adopt him. I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I
>> can't I can't I can't I can't I can't...

> You don't have to if you can't.  Fostering him is enough, if you make it
> clear to the rescue that they have to continue trying to get him a permanent
> home while you care for him.  Don't panic.

Thank you, Christina! :) It's nice to hear this. That is my intention and
it has been my intention from the start. I'm not really panicking. Just
reminding myself. :)

Joyce
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Stormmee - 05 Feb 2008 01:10 GMT
in all seriousness, the vet assistant said something to me that has helped
me a bunch, she said "any improvement you make in the cat's life, even if it
is not the ideal improvement, still makes the cat's life better and you a
more whole person", I hang on to this when I look at Barbie, but I am
grateful for that advice, as it helped me find the right slave for harri,
Lee

>  > Please don't call the rescue org tomorrow.  He's terrified just yet. Give
>  > him a couple of weeks to relax, at least.
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jofirey - 05 Feb 2008 01:29 GMT
> > Please don't call the rescue org tomorrow.  He's terrified just yet.
> > Give
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> it has been my intention from the start. I'm not really panicking. Just
> reminding myself. :)

Every cat we've ever owned was given at least a couple of days mostly alone
in a room with food and water, soft blankets and a litter box.  They need it
to get over the trauma of a new place and new smells and new sounds.  Then
we leave the door open and let them come to us when they are ready.

Jo
Matthew - 05 Feb 2008 03:20 GMT
Joyce It took weeks for Ka'shay to fully adjust to the house when we brought
her home

> > Please don't call the rescue org tomorrow.  He's terrified just yet.
> > Give
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>
> Joyce
Suz - 04 Feb 2008 13:31 GMT
On Feb 3, 9:33�pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
> There's this pet food store near my house where I buy cat food,
> litter, etc. I always go on Sundays because a local feral-rescue
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> --
> To send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name.

LOL, so he's a foster? Shall we take bets on whether Joyce adopts him
or not ;o)
Suz&Spicey
Granby - 04 Feb 2008 13:39 GMT
From the look of the posts, I think that has been decided LOL.
On Feb 3, 9:33?pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
> There's this pet food store near my house where I buy cat food,
> litter, etc. I always go on Sundays because a local feral-rescue
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LOL, so he's a foster? Shall we take bets on whether Joyce adopts him
or not ;o)
Suz&Spicey
Stormmee - 04 Feb 2008 21:10 GMT
would be a sucker bet I think, Lee
On Feb 3, 9:33?pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
> There's this pet food store near my house where I buy cat food,
> litter, etc. I always go on Sundays because a local feral-rescue
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> --
> To send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name.

LOL, so he's a foster? Shall we take bets on whether Joyce adopts him
or not ;o)
Suz&Spicey
Christina Websell - 05 Feb 2008 00:16 GMT
LOL, so he's a foster? Shall we take bets on whether Joyce adopts him
or not ;o)
Suz&Spicey

Ah, it will all depend on whether any potential adopters sent along to see
him are good enough, Suz.  It might be that their home is too small or
dangerous for cats, they are out at work too long to give him the attention
he needs, or they just look, well, maybe, just not quite right for this
lovely boy. <g>
It's a fact that once I had Boyfie for a while no other home for him would
have been good enough for him but mine.
That's what often happens despite best intentions to rehome them.  They
creep into your heart without your permission.

Tweed
Suz - 05 Feb 2008 16:22 GMT
On Feb 4, 7:16�pm, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:

> LOL, so he's a foster? Shall we take bets on whether Joyce adopts him
> or not ;o)
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> Tweed

Or Joyce believes in loooooooooong term "foster" care ;o) I better
behave Joyce knows where I Live.
Suz&Spicey
Kreisleriana - 04 Feb 2008 15:17 GMT
> There's this pet food store near my house where I buy cat food,
> litter, etc. I always go on Sundays because a local feral-rescue
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> Joyce

Pictures?
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 04 Feb 2008 18:59 GMT
>> He is awfully cute, though. :)

> Pictures?

Unfortunately, no, because I don't have a camera. He's a small 9-month
old (looks more like 6 months to me), and is mostly white, with small
patches of black in a few places, and a striped tail. That always cracks
me up, like at the factory, they had run out of tails to match a mostly-
white cat, and had to just stick on a striped one. :)

He has runny eyes, and might have herpes. I already know that my non-
herpes cats are immune, since they've been living with Roxy for years,
so that's no problem.

I just wonder where that sweet, affection-hog kitty went? I'm going to
call the rescue folks today. He seemed no different this morning - I
found him crouched in yet another hiding place, as far back as he could
get. He did eat, though, and he used the litter box, so he's probably
just scared, not sick.

Joyce

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leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 04 Feb 2008 19:53 GMT
> I just wonder where that sweet, affection-hog kitty went? I'm going to
> call the rescue folks today. He seemed no different this morning - I
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> Joyce////

He's probably terrified. When Cleo arrived, she was in shell shock and
sat under my desk in her box for 3 weeks solid.

He's ex-feral, right? If he's been tamed, this behaviour is completely
normal and he he needs time to readjust. Sit there quietly and read to
him. Also, if you have a feather wand toy, try and tempt him to play
with it. Whatever you do, don't force yourself on him. Also, get
yourself some really yummy gooshy food, smear it on your fingers and
encourgae him to lick it off. Then he'll learn your fingers are nice
things.

Give him time. He's worried, stressed and unsure of himself and is
behaving the only way he knows how - hiding and keeping small and
hunkered down so that the big bad monster doesn't eat him.

Helen M
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 04 Feb 2008 21:15 GMT
> He's probably terrified. When Cleo arrived, she was in shell shock and
> sat under my desk in her box for 3 weeks solid.

> He's ex-feral, right? If he's been tamed, this behaviour is completely
> normal and he he needs time to readjust. Sit there quietly and read to
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> encourgae him to lick it off. Then he'll learn your fingers are nice
> things.

Oh, yes - that's what I did with Licky (and his brother - I had them
both as fosters when they were 3-4 months old). Except I used meat
baby food - boy did they love it! Licky especially loved to lick it
off my fingers. (But that's not how he got his name! In case there's
anyone who doesn't already know this, it's short for "Licorice".)

I'll try a feather toy, too. I was moving a pencil back and forth
really fast near him, and very few cats seem able to resist that, but
he didn't react at all.

> Give him time. He's worried, stressed and unsure of himself and is
> behaving the only way he knows how - hiding and keeping small and
> hunkered down so that the big bad monster doesn't eat him.

Yeah, I can see that he is. But I'm surprised the rescue people didn't
tell me this. They said I should expect him to be affectionate, active
and playful. They also said he's been fostered in a couple of different
places, and that he's used to other cats. Nothing about him needing
some time to get used to a new environment, or spending hours crouched
in the exact same position. So that's why I'm concerned. I just wasn't
expecting this, based on what they told me. It could mean that my house
isn't a good foster home for him.

Thanks,
Joyce
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Granby - 04 Feb 2008 21:36 GMT
NOOOOO I am sure it doesn't mean you home isn't right for fostering.  Read
what you wrote, "They also said he's been fostered in a couple of different
places,"  This means that counting the shelter, this would be his FOURTH
home.  Give the poor little guy a break.  Talk to him, lay on the floor near
him, love him and if it is meant to be it will but if he goes back that will
mean a fifth move.  This would mess up a foster child in a heartbeat.  You
have LOVE, now have PATIENCE!

> > He's probably terrified. When Cleo arrived, she was in shell shock and
> > sat under my desk in her box for 3 weeks solid.
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> Thanks,
> Joyce
Suz - 05 Feb 2008 16:16 GMT
> NOOOOO I am sure it doesn't mean you home isn't right for fostering. �Read
> what you wrote, "They also said he's been fostered in a couple of different
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Helen's suggestion of reading to him was good. Get him used to your
presence. That many homes in under a year has to be unsettleing for a
kitten.
Suz&Spicey
Stormmee - 04 Feb 2008 21:53 GMT
it could also be that he really wants to stay and is scared he will do
something wrong, Lee

>  > He's probably terrified. When Cleo arrived, she was in shell shock and
>  > sat under my desk in her box for 3 weeks solid.
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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 04 Feb 2008 23:02 GMT
> it could also be that he really wants to stay and is scared he will do
> something wrong, Lee

I must admit that I seriously doubt this. Cats generally do not worry
whether they are doing something wrong! :)  That's a dog's job. However,
I do believe he is simply freaked out to be in a new place, with lots
of cat smells around. I hope he'll come around soon, but I'll be spending
more time with him tonight.

Joyce
Stormmee - 04 Feb 2008 23:12 GMT
after they are  comfortable they don't give a rat's rip what you think, but
I can tell you that when they have been shuttled from place to place, and if
their mother has warned them about humans, I think it is a possibility,
Trudi to this day comes and checks on me and puts on cute kitty ness if she
hears me be loud, as if to say, please don't be mad at me, see I am cute,
Lee

>  > it could also be that he really wants to stay and is scared he will do
>  > something wrong, Lee
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> Joyce
Granby - 05 Feb 2008 00:05 GMT
Ok, so if you don't want to adopt him or can't, then that is that.  He
should have stayed at the shelter apparently he was happy there.  We really
shouldn't pressure into something.  But, try and be fair to the kitty.
Maybe he bonded with someone there at the shelter.  If you want him, the be
patient and try to bond with him, if not then let him go back where he was
happy.  They will love you if you let them.
> after they are  comfortable they don't give a rat's rip what you think,
> but
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>> Joyce
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 05 Feb 2008 00:15 GMT
> Ok, so if you don't want to adopt him or can't, then that is that.  He
> should have stayed at the shelter apparently he was happy there.  We really
> shouldn't pressure into something.  But, try and be fair to the kitty.
> Maybe he bonded with someone there at the shelter.  If you want him, the be
> patient and try to bond with him, if not then let him go back where he was
> happy.  They will love you if you let them.

He wasn't in a shelter. He was rescued by a local, grass-roots feral-cat
rescue group. They maintain feral colonies, and if they rescue kittens of
a young enough age, they put them into foster care for socializing and
eventually adoption.

This kitten has been in foster care for a while, I think. I'm not sure
when he was rescued, though. Apparently the foster home he was in wasn't
ideal for him, and the volunteers at the org. were going to place him
elsewhere. That's where I came in - I just happened to be cuddling him
and talking to them, and the next thing I knew, I said I would be happy
to foster him. :)

So if I were to give him back to the organization, it would be because
he was extremely unhappy in my home for some reason. And he'd go to
another fosterer, not to a shelter. I would not do this lightly, however!

Joyce
Granby - 05 Feb 2008 00:20 GMT
Now you are talking girl.  You are thinking about the kitty and not so
nervous about what you think.  You will be ok, be patient with yourself too.

> > Ok, so if you don't want to adopt him or can't, then that is that.  He
> > should have stayed at the shelter apparently he was happy there.  We
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> Joyce
Kyla  =^..^= - 05 Feb 2008 05:01 GMT
Good advice Granby
and PURRS all around, Joyce
"Granby"
> Now you are talking girl.  You are thinking about the kitty and not so
> nervous about what you think.  You will be ok, be patient with yourself
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>> Joyce
Outsider - 04 Feb 2008 23:48 GMT
bastXXXette@sonic.net wrote in news:47a760ad$0$36397
$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> >> He is awfully cute, though. :)
>
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>
> Joyce

I was talking to the rescue person over the weekend (she called to check
in).  I told her the boys are adjusting to me but very slowly.  She said
it could take as long as the amount of time they were in the shelter (6
months).  What you describe is how they were.  They are improving since
now they only go half way as far into each corner :)  Your little guy
err.. I mean the foster doesn't even have his brother with him like mine
do.

Andy

Andy
Stormmee - 04 Feb 2008 20:57 GMT
oh my, you now have four, Lee
> There's this pet food store near my house where I buy cat food,
> litter, etc. I always go on Sundays because a local feral-rescue
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Outsider - 04 Feb 2008 23:41 GMT
bastXXXette@sonic.net wrote in news:47a67990$0$36405
$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> Am I insane or what? I'm already overwhelmed keeping up with 3!!
>
> He is awfully cute, though. :)
>
> Joyce

ha. ha!  Crazy cat lady :)

Andy
sam - 05 Feb 2008 03:41 GMT
> There's this pet food store near my house where I buy cat food,
> litter, etc. I always go on Sundays because a local feral-rescue
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> Joyce
How cool!  Joyce has the right idea.  In technical fields, prospective
employers are big on certifications (presumably to demonstrate a
candidate's mastery of a particular technical skill).  Joyce can now
include CCP after her name on her correspondence/resume, being that
she's officially a Crazy Cat Person.  I'll never tell that she's not, to
my knowledge, a Cisco Certified Professional.

Sam, supervised by Mistletoe
tanadashoes - 05 Feb 2008 13:54 GMT
> bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
> > There's this pet food store near my house where I buy cat food,
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Sam, you are magnificant.

Pam S.
 
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