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William of Orange is not coming with us :-(

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Baha - 30 Jan 2008 02:21 GMT
Damn. I'd already named his furry orange tuchas too.

Will turns out not only FIV+, but badly so. Apparently "viral load" is not
limited to human AIDS. He's not a well boy. Michelle will keep him in the big
cat-aids part of her house where he and his comrades will either be cared for
until veterinary science can do no more for him, or he can be adopted into a
nice single-cat home, or one with one of his FIV comrades already in place.
She wants us to take two other cats who are presently negative, but now also
sounds kind of iffy on the matter. The message I got on the voicemail last
night seemed to be that her vet thinks that, after being around at least 2
FIV+ cats in 3 years--one of whom has a history of aggression--it is only a
matter of time before the two end up positive. My own vet says it can take up
to 8 months to show on a test, the shelter vet up to 6 months.

To make matters more complicated, there appears to be a nasty matter a-
brewin' in terms of Marilyn's estate. In short, I cannot visit her brother
and take out so much as a toothpick without risking all manner of legal evil
descending upon me. And it appears that the animals are part of the stuff-in-
the-house that can't be removed until this Gordian Knot is cut. So the
brother is resigned to living in a cat house (shut up you dirty-minded people!
) until all this probate crap is wrapped up. And i have heard that probate is
a long and nasty thing, whatever probate means.  

I so wanted to honor Marilyn's last wishes and can only hope that
contributing to the medical care and testing on those poor cats is enough. I
hope she forgives me Up There. I can't risk my little ones though, that would
be grossly irresponsible.

I shall just break out my rosary and say one for the poor babies wondering
where their Mama is.

Blessed be,
Baha
Joy - 30 Jan 2008 03:18 GMT
> Damn. I'd already named his furry orange tuchas too.
>
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> Blessed be,
> Baha

That is sad, Baha.  Probate isn't necessarily nasty, but it looks as though
this one will be, and nasty does mean long.  That is so sad for the brother
and the cats - and for you, of course.

Joy
Baha - 30 Jan 2008 03:35 GMT
>That is sad, Baha.  Probate isn't necessarily nasty, but it looks as though
>this one will be, and nasty does mean long.  That is so sad for the brother
>and the cats - and for you, of course.

Me, not so much. The one brother is beside himself, and those poor cats are
mama-less. i feel bdl for them, never mind me. Our next cat will come in The
Boss' good old time.

Blessed be,
Baha
Stormmee - 30 Jan 2008 15:44 GMT
probate is as nasty as the participants make it, could be a blessing in
disguise, could be enough time will pass that you will find that the two you
are interested in having will be negative after the probate, and remember
YOU ARE honoring her wishes, its the rest of the world and a nasty virus
that isn't cooperating, Lee
> Damn. I'd already named his furry orange tuchas too.
>
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Granby - 30 Jan 2008 16:41 GMT
Isn't it terrible that as humans we can really do so little when the need is
so great?  Probate can be bad when people want it to be.  Please don't feel
you are letting your friend down, if she loved cats, she would want you to
protect yours and neither of you had control over what is happening to the
ones in question.  Bast is the only one and who knows his/her thinking in
the matter May the cats with the virus are to be kept close enough to some
of the family to remind them of what THEY didn't do when the chance was
there.
> probate is as nasty as the participants make it, could be a blessing in
> disguise, could be enough time will pass that you will find that the two
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jofirey - 30 Jan 2008 18:50 GMT
> Damn. I'd already named his furry orange tuchas too.
>
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> is
> a long and nasty thing, whatever probate means.

Probate doesn't have to be long and nasty.  Often it is more like having a
referee for children who didn't learn to play nicely together when they were
still small.  Nothing gets done without the Estate Executor's say so and the
probate judges approval.

It can give the survivors someone else to focus their feelings on rather
than to fight with each other.  And there is no reason for it to take much
longer than it takes to sell any property that needs to be sold and file any
tax returns that need to be filed.

Normally the executor is paid a flat amount so has no interest in dragging
things out.  Six months is pretty normal for an uncomplicated estate.

Jo
jofirey - 30 Jan 2008 18:52 GMT
> Damn. I'd already named his furry orange tuchas too.
>
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> is
> a long and nasty thing, whatever probate means.

Probate doesn't have to be long and nasty.  Often it is more like having a
referee for children who didn't learn to play nicely together when they were
still small.  Nothing gets done without the Estate Executor's say so and the
probate judges approval.

Probate can calm things down when the heirs are getting nasty left to their
own devices.

It can give the survivors someone else to focus their feelings on rather
than to fight with each other.  And there is no reason for it to take much
longer than it takes to sell any property that needs to be sold and file any
tax returns that need to be filed.

Normally the executor is paid a flat amount so has no interest in dragging
things out.  Six months is pretty normal for an uncomplicated estate.

Jo
Lesley - 01 Feb 2008 16:45 GMT
So the
> brother is resigned to living in a cat house (shut up you dirty-minded people!
> ) until all this probate crap is wrapped up. And i have heard that probate is
> a long and nasty thing, whatever probate means.  

Huh? Probate (in the UK anyway) is where the will gets checked to make
sure it's legal  for example years ago a former neighbour of mine left
me her book collection- but she asked my mother to witness to her will
and as I was a minor at the time my inheritance was deemed invalid
because a person (or their dependent children) cannot witness a will
they benefit under. It was sad she had left everything to a nephew who
asked my mum to organise the cheapest possible funeral, arrived late
at church and spent the entire wake walking round and wondering how
much he would get for things.Mum found out his only interest in her
books was to make sure none of them were valuable then bin any that
weren;t. My mum stunned me- she'd spotted one of my favourite books
lying on a table and on the way out, my decent upright law abiding
mum....nicked it for me! I can see it sitting on top of the bookcase
now!

But I never heard of anyone having to live in a property while it is
subject to probate!

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Granby - 01 Feb 2008 17:13 GMT
I assumed (and we all know the meaning of that word) the person was going to
live there and that the cats had to stay until things were finalized. Thus
"cat house".
On Jan 29, 6:21 pm, "Baha via CatKB.com" <u18616@uwe> wrote:
So the
> brother is resigned to living in a cat house (shut up you dirty-minded
> people!
> ) until all this probate crap is wrapped up. And i have heard that probate
> is
> a long and nasty thing, whatever probate means.

Huh? Probate (in the UK anyway) is where the will gets checked to make
sure it's legal  for example years ago a former neighbour of mine left
me her book collection- but she asked my mother to witness to her will
and as I was a minor at the time my inheritance was deemed invalid
because a person (or their dependent children) cannot witness a will
they benefit under. It was sad she had left everything to a nephew who
asked my mum to organise the cheapest possible funeral, arrived late
at church and spent the entire wake walking round and wondering how
much he would get for things.Mum found out his only interest in her
books was to make sure none of them were valuable then bin any that
weren;t. My mum stunned me- she'd spotted one of my favourite books
lying on a table and on the way out, my decent upright law abiding
mum....nicked it for me! I can see it sitting on top of the bookcase
now!

But I never heard of anyone having to live in a property while it is
subject to probate!

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
jofirey - 01 Feb 2008 20:31 GMT
On Jan 29, 6:21 pm, "Baha via CatKB.com" <u18616@uwe> wrote:
So the
> brother is resigned to living in a cat house (shut up you dirty-minded
> people!
> ) until all this probate crap is wrapped up. And i have heard that probate
> is
> a long and nasty thing, whatever probate means.

Huh? Probate (in the UK anyway) is where the will gets checked to make
sure it's legal  for example years ago a former neighbour of mine left
me her book collection- but she asked my mother to witness to her will
and as I was a minor at the time my inheritance was deemed invalid
because a person (or their dependent children) cannot witness a will
they benefit under. It was sad she had left everything to a nephew who
asked my mum to organise the cheapest possible funeral, arrived late
at church and spent the entire wake walking round and wondering how
much he would get for things.Mum found out his only interest in her
books was to make sure none of them were valuable then bin any that
weren;t. My mum stunned me- she'd spotted one of my favourite books
lying on a table and on the way out, my decent upright law abiding
mum....nicked it for me! I can see it sitting on top of the bookcase
now!

But I never heard of anyone having to live in a property while it is
subject to probate!

Lesley

They couldn't make anyone live where they didn't want to.  I'm guessing it
is someone who was already living there and wants to stay.  And that for the
time being someone else is being forced to let them.

Jo
polonca12000 - 08 Feb 2008 21:59 GMT
<snip>
> I so wanted to honor Marilyn's last wishes and can only hope that
> contributing to the medical care and testing on those poor cats is enough. I
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> Blessed be,
> Baha

Lots of purrs and hugs,
Polonca and Soncek
Granby - 09 Feb 2008 01:31 GMT
I can not believe for one second that your friend would want you to put any
other cats at risk.  I am sure there is nothing to forgive.
> <snip>
>> I so wanted to honor Marilyn's last wishes and can only hope that
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Lots of purrs and hugs,
> Polonca and Soncek
 
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