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Lesley - 27 Jan 2008 18:00 GMT
At 1.15 this morning a car alarm went off for 10 minutes and we called
the person concerned a lot of rude names. Sarsi hated it, she got out
of bed and let us know in no uncertain terms that she has sensitive
hearing!

This so disrupted her sleep pattern that she did not try to wake the
household up at 5am as she usually does so we got to sleep through!

Hope the car alarm does it again tonight

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Christina Websell - 27 Jan 2008 18:40 GMT
> At 1.15 this morning a car alarm went off for 10 minutes and we called
> the person concerned a lot of rude names. Sarsi hated it, she got out
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Hope the car alarm does it again tonight

I am always amused by folks who allow their cats to sleep with them and then
wonder why they are disturbed.
My cats sleep downstairs, it's a firm rule that my bedroom is out of bounds.
It's comfortable enough for them on the sofa and having their nice beds down
there.
Kitty never disturbs me.  Boyfie sometimes comes upstairs to wowl outside
the door if he thinks I might be late for work and forgot to get up.
Although it might be that he wants his breakfast :-) but he never does this
on a weekend.
I know Susan M will be pretty jealous that I can sleep all night.........

Tweed
Lesley - 27 Jan 2008 18:46 GMT
On 27 Jan, 10:40, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I am always amused by folks who allow their cats to sleep with them and then
> wonder why they are disturbed.

Until recently both of them have slept in the bedroom, not on the bed
(unless there's a storm when they both want to be next to Dave and if
he hasn't panicked they think it's safe) and slept all night but Sarsi
just lately has been experimenting with the power to wake Hoomins
early. They usually even sleep through on Weekends and don't demand
fed until I get up

Lesley

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~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 27 Jan 2008 19:53 GMT
>> At 1.15 this morning a car alarm went off for 10 minutes and we called
>> the person concerned a lot of rude names. Sarsi hated it, she got out
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Tweed

Wow...  imo, animals sleeping in my bedroom is part of owning a cat and/or a
dog.  I would never, ever lock them out of any room I'm in!!  That's just
not right!!!  :(

(And I'm certainly not
jealous)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Christina Websell - 27 Jan 2008 20:13 GMT
>>> At 1.15 this morning a car alarm went off for 10 minutes and we called
>>> the person concerned a lot of rude names. Sarsi hated it, she got out
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> a dog.  I would never, ever lock them out of any room I'm in!!  That's
> just not right!!!  :(

In your opinion only, it does not work for me.

> (And I'm certainly not
> jealous)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did your exclamation mark get stuck on your keyboard?  If not, how rude that
is.

Tweed
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 27 Jan 2008 20:19 GMT
>>>> At 1.15 this morning a car alarm went off for 10 minutes and we called
>>>> the person concerned a lot of rude names. Sarsi hated it, she got out
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> In your opinion only, it does not work for me.

Yes, I said...  imo

>> (And I'm certainly not
>> jealous)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Did your exclamation mark get stuck on your keyboard?  If not, how rude
> that is.

Lighten up, Francis. (Why so defensive)???????????????????????????????

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> Tweed
Christina Websell - 27 Jan 2008 21:09 GMT
>>>>> At 1.15 this morning a car alarm went off for 10 minutes and we called
>>>>> the person concerned a lot of rude names. Sarsi hated it, she got out
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>
> Lighten up, Francis. (Why so defensive)???????????????????????????????

OMG, it happened again, this time to your question mark key.  I suggest you
get a new keyboard.

Tweed
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 27 Jan 2008 21:14 GMT
>>>>>> At 1.15 this morning a car alarm went off for 10 minutes and we
>>>>>> called
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> OMG, it happened again, this time to your question mark key.  I suggest
> you get a new keyboard.

LOL...

Hook, line and sinker "her"!

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> Tweed
Jack Campin - bogus address - 28 Jan 2008 01:26 GMT
> imo, animals sleeping in my bedroom is part of owning a cat and/or a
> dog.  I would never, ever lock them out of any room I'm in!!  That's
> just not right!!!  :(

Me too.  My Muriel is dying - she has a tumour the size of a golfball
in her armpit and the oedema in her leg is only under control with
anti-inflammatories.  Her favourite place in the daytime is lying on
my chest looking into my eyes, but at night she sleeps on the pillow
with her face nearly touching mine.  I've had her for 16 years and
I'll only have her for a few weeks more.  No way would I even think
about making her sleep somewhere else.

Usually this means having two cats on the pillow.  Ishtar has known
Muriel for most of those 16 years - no particular illness, but she's
thin and old and won't outlive her friend by much.  So often the two
old ladies are asleep beside me.  I get tickled awake by tails and
whiskers all the time, but so what.

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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 28 Jan 2008 02:16 GMT
> > imo, animals sleeping in my bedroom is part of owning a cat and/or a
> > dog.  I would never, ever lock them out of any room I'm in!!  That's
> > just not right!!!  :(

> Me too.  My Muriel is dying - she has a tumour the size of a golfball
> in her armpit and the oedema in her leg is only under control with
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I'll only have her for a few weeks more.  No way would I even think
> about making her sleep somewhere else.

I'm really sorry to hear that she is so close to the end. Of course you
want to spend all the time you can with her, including sleep time.

Joyce

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~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 28 Jan 2008 14:46 GMT
> > > imo, animals sleeping in my bedroom is part of owning a cat and/or a
> > > dog.  I would never, ever lock them out of any room I'm in!!  That's
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I'm really sorry to hear that she is so close to the end. Of course you
> want to spend all the time you can with her, including sleep time.

Ditto!!  And many, many hugs to Muriel!!

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> Joyce
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 27 Jan 2008 20:15 GMT
> I am always amused by folks who allow their cats to sleep with them and then
> wonder why they are disturbed.
> My cats sleep downstairs, it's a firm rule that my bedroom is out of bounds.
> It's comfortable enough for them on the sofa and having their nice beds down
> there.

But that also deprives YOU of the comfort of a warm, furry
"hot water bottle" that never gets cold!  Mine seldom
disturb MY sleep, but I have to disturb theirs if I get up
during the night - sometimes it can be quite a struggle to
persuade a cat sound asleep on top of me to move "just a
little bit", so I can get out from under!

Actually, mine used to be relegated to the "service porch"
(laundry room) at night.  However, when I lived in Pasadena,
one of them kept bringing in those little California fruit
rats and releasing them.  After the night I found a tiny
charcoal grey critter with a white tummy and long skinny
tail, curled up on top of my night-clothes sound asleep
under my pillow, I decided if I were going to have a furry
bed-mate, I preferred it be a cat!  (That rat lived the life
of Riley for about three months - nested in the top of my
portable dishwasher, amply nourished with cat-food - until
the day I moved out, the dishwasher  moved with me, and the
rat left in protest of the "earthquake" caused when the
movers lifted its home!)
Christina Websell - 27 Jan 2008 20:49 GMT
>> I am always amused by folks who allow their cats to sleep with them and
>> then wonder why they are disturbed.
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> struggle to persuade a cat sound asleep on top of me to move "just a
> little bit", so I can get out from under!

I have a 15 tog duvet.  I do not, and will never want a cat in my bed.  I do
appreciate the opinions of those that do but I DON'T WANT A CAT IN MY BED
OVERNIGHT. Full stop. I am a poor sleeper and I have to get up for work at
7.
Might be different if I was retired.  Way to go yet.

Tweed
Adrian - 27 Jan 2008 21:01 GMT
>>> I am always amused by folks who allow their cats to sleep with them
>>> and then wonder why they are disturbed.
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>
> Tweed

I would cook if I had a 15 tog duvet, mine's a 4 tog and that's warm enough
in winter with the window open. Sometimes the water in the glass by my bed
freezes but I still stay warm.
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Christina Websell - 27 Jan 2008 21:25 GMT
>>>> I am always amused by folks who allow their cats to sleep with them
>>>> and then wonder why they are disturbed.
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> enough in winter with the window open. Sometimes the water in the glass by
> my bed freezes but I still stay warm.

I have no central heating. My house is cold when I am at work and by the
time the woodburner gets going in the evening it's usually time to go to
bed.   I'm used to being cold in the winter but having a 15 tog lets me be
at least warm overnight.

Tweed
Outsider - 27 Jan 2008 21:45 GMT
> ..
>> At 1.15 this morning a car alarm went off for 10 minutes and we
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Tweed

Since I wake up at 3:50 AM on work days I tend to wake the cats up
instead of the other way around.  At this point the brothers don't even
come in the bedroom when I am sleeping for more than a real quick reccy
and then leave.  If they wanted to sleep on the bed they would be
welcome.

Andy
leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 27 Jan 2008 22:33 GMT
> I am always amused by folks who allow their cats to sleep with them and then
> wonder why they are disturbed.
>
> Tweed

I'm very lucky with my guys - they've learned that they do not under
any circumstances wake me up before the alarm clock. After they've
heard the alarm, then I'm fair game! They're so well trained that when
I'm away my pet-sitter has to set the alarm for them in the mornings
to get them out of bed for breakfast!!

Helen M
Christina Websell - 27 Jan 2008 23:07 GMT
> > I am always amused by folks who allow their cats to sleep with them
> and then
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I'm away my pet-sitter has to set the alarm for them in the mornings
> to get them out of bed for breakfast!!

Mine can also get me when the alarm goes off, but being a nuisance in the
night is not an option and they both know it. Not to say that they have have
not both tried on a few occasions.  Failed miserably because I refused to
respond and they gave up.
I don't know how Susan copes with Otis waking her up nightly. She's a nicer
person than I am, to be sure.

Tweed
Granby - 28 Jan 2008 01:29 GMT
Each day, exactly five minutes before the alarm goes off, Piglet will knock
it so it flies into the door.  If I ever actually heard it buzz, I wouldn't
recognize the sound.

>> > I am always amused by folks who allow their cats to sleep with them
>> and then
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Tweed
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 28 Jan 2008 14:51 GMT
>> > I am always amused by folks who allow their cats to sleep with them
>> and then
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> I don't know how Susan copes with Otis waking her up nightly. She's a
> nicer person than I am, to be sure.

My Basset Hound will be 12 in June.  He can no longer hold his pee all
night.  Anywhere between 1 a.m. to 4 a.m., he wakes me up to go out.  And
this is EVERY night.  I'm in upstate NY, so I have to get completely dressed
with scarf, hat, gloves and big winter coat.  I would never, ever have it
any other way b/c he is a part of my life...  NOT a "nuisance".  Frankly, I
feel sorry for your cats.  Never knowing what cuddling up w/the human is
like???????????  Well, it's just plain sad...  really sad.  :(

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> Tweed
Bridget - 28 Jan 2008 15:17 GMT
>>> > I am always amused by folks who allow their cats to sleep with them
>>> and then
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> cuddling up w/the human is like???????????  Well, it's just plain
> sad...  really sad.  :(

I can understand Tweed's preference. I have three cats that sleep with
me, but when I am having trouble with insomnia or am not sleeping well
for some reason, the cats get kicked out. I love cuddling with them in
the recliner during those times or carrying them around or holding them
while I am on the computer, but if sleep problems crop up - out the cats
go. I have to have my sleep. And it doesn't kill them. They have other
favorite sleeping places even when I do let them sleep in the bed. I
will often awake with no cats in bed with me - even on cold nights
because they have found someplace they prefer better for the night.

I think Tweed is quite spoiled on her cats from the way she talks about
them. There really isn't anything she wouldn't do to make sure they are
comfortable and healthy. It isn't required that they sleep in her bed
for her to be a good slave and for them to be happy cats.

Bridget
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 28 Jan 2008 18:56 GMT
>> Frankly, I feel sorry for your cats.  Never knowing what
>> cuddling up w/the human is like???????????  Well, it's just plain
>> sad...  really sad.  :(

> I can understand Tweed's preference. I have three cats that sleep with
> me, but when I am having trouble with insomnia or am not sleeping well
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> will often awake with no cats in bed with me - even on cold nights
> because they have found someplace they prefer better for the night.

I feel the same way. Most nights, I do let mine sleep with me. At those
times I have woken up in the morning to find all possible configurations
of the gang: just one (any of the 3), or any of the 3 combos of 2, or
all of them together. I love to wake up and find the whole gang on the
bed, but I often pay a price. My sleep isn't as good, and sometimes I'm
in pain because one of them has been sleeping on me, or I'm twisted into
a spine-unfriendly position to accomodate them (which I apparently do
unconsciously, while sleeping).

Sometimes I really need to make sure I get a great night's sleep, and
then they're all shut out of the bedroom. They deal. As with Bridget's
cats, mine often sleep in another room even when they have the choice
to sleep in my room. So I can understand why someone might want to keep
cats out of the bedroom all the time, if sleep is always an issue. Not
allowing your cat to sleep in your bed is not animal abuse! Let's get a
little perspective here.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 28 Jan 2008 19:41 GMT
> I think Tweed is quite spoiled on her cats from the way she talks about
> them. There really isn't anything she wouldn't do to make sure they are
> comfortable and healthy. It isn't required that they sleep in her bed
> for her to be a good slave and for them to be happy cats.

Possibly true.  However, I resent her assuming that those of
us who prefer to let our cats sleep with us are somehow at
fault.  Mine seldom disturb me, I am more likely to disturb
THEM, with turning in bed or getting up to use the bathroom.
Christina Websell - 29 Jan 2008 21:30 GMT
>> I think Tweed is quite spoiled on her cats from the way she talks about
>> them. There really isn't anything she wouldn't do to make sure they are
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> me, I am more likely to disturb THEM, with turning in bed or getting up to
> use the bathroom.

I do not resent anything, none are at fault for
allowing cats to sleep with them.  It does not work for me is all I am
saying.  If I was retired from work it could be different.
Granby - 29 Jan 2008 22:01 GMT
My cats take turns from the bed to somewhere else.  I have been known to
roll on them and they have learned that if they feel movement...HEAD FOR
HIGHER GROUND!

>>> I think Tweed is quite spoiled on her cats from the way she talks about
>>> them. There really isn't anything she wouldn't do to make sure they are
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> allowing cats to sleep with them.  It does not work for me is all I am
> saying.  If I was retired from work it could be different.
leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 28 Jan 2008 19:49 GMT
. They have other
> favorite sleeping places even when I do let them sleep in the bed. I
> will often awake with no cats in bed with me - even on cold nights
> because they have found someplace they prefer better for the night.

I totally understand Tweed. For first 6 months of her life, Lily was
put to bed in the study every night so that she didn't disturb me or
the other cats at night. Most of the time only her or Tiger come to
bed with me and the pair of them are used to settling down at the end
of the bed. If Lily gets too restless, she gets turfed out. 9/10 they
prefer to sleep in their own arm chairs. Apparently, I snore and keep
them awake!

> I think Tweed is quite spoiled on her cats from the way she talks about
> them. There really isn't anything she wouldn't do to make sure they are
> comfortable and healthy. It isn't required that they sleep in her bed
> for her to be a good slave and for them to be happy cats.

Tweeds cats are spoiled stupid. Just because they are not in bed with
her at night, doesn't mean they have any the less quality of life.

Helen M
Marina - 29 Jan 2008 04:29 GMT
> I think Tweed is quite spoiled on her cats from the way she talks about
> them. There really isn't anything she wouldn't do to make sure they are
> comfortable and healthy. It isn't required that they sleep in her bed
> for her to be a good slave and for them to be happy cats.

No, it's not required, but she needn't make snide remarks about those of
us who choose to let our cats sleep with us, either.

I'm lucky with Mir and Caliban. They both settle down for the night on
the bed, and often they will still be sound asleep in the morning.
Sometimes they leave during the night, but quietly. They never wake me up.

Frank used to wake me early in the morning until I stopped feeding him
first thing. When he'd learned not to equate me getting up with being
fed, he stopped waking me early.

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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 29 Jan 2008 06:23 GMT
> Frank used to wake me early in the morning until I stopped feeding him
> first thing. When he'd learned not to equate me getting up with being
> fed, he stopped waking me early.

I do the same thing here. I get up, go to the bathroom, brush my teeth,
shower and get dressed. And *then* I feed the cats. So they know that
just getting me up isn't going to immediately bring them food. They're
mostly pretty good about this. When they do wake me up, it's usually not
deliberate.

Joyce
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 29 Jan 2008 18:41 GMT
>> I think Tweed is quite spoiled on her cats from the way she talks
>> about them. There really isn't anything she wouldn't do to make sure
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> No, it's not required, but she needn't make snide remarks about those of
> us who choose to let our cats sleep with us, either.

Exactly!  "Tweed" reminds me a bit of my mother - for her
there were only two ways of doing things - her way and the
wrong way!  (Probably that's why some of my replies to Tweed
are a bit more acid than they need be.)
Christina Websell - 29 Jan 2008 21:47 GMT
>> I think Tweed is quite spoiled on her cats from the way she talks about
>> them. There really isn't anything she wouldn't do to make sure they are
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> No, it's not required, but she needn't make snide remarks about those of
> us who choose to let our cats sleep with us, either.

I didn't intend to make snide remarks.  I don't do that.  <Upset now>

I di
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 29 Jan 2008 22:22 GMT
> "Marina" <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

>> No, it's not required, but she needn't make snide remarks about those of
>> us who choose to let our cats sleep with us, either.

> I didn't intend to make snide remarks.  I don't do that.  <Upset now>

Tweed, I don't think you mean to make snide remarks either. Sometimes
you do sound a little cranky or impatient, when somebody says something
you think is stupid, or obvious, or just plain wrong, and that might be
interpreted as snide. I don't think you intend to be mean or hurtful,
but sometimes it's hard to control how the tone of a post will be heard
on the other end.

You heard people complaining about a poor night's sleep, and I imagine
that your thought process went something like this: "I value my sleep,
so I don't allow my cats to sleep with me. They allow their cats to
sleep with them, and now they're complaining that they don't sleep well -
what's wrong with this picture??" (Is that close?)

So maybe you didn't mean to judge people for their choices as much as,
maybe, you were wondering why they weren't seeing what you consider to
be obvious? Again, it's hard to know how someone's going to take your
comments, even when they're well-meaning.

Often, comments can be taken as negative more for what *isn't* said
than for what is said. I have found that it pays to throw in an extra
sentence or two to reassure people I'm not judging or being snide, etc.,
when expressing a strong opinion. It may not seem necessary to you
because you know what your intentions are. But people read things into
what other people say, especially when there are fewer cues, such as
online. So what does it hurt to say, "Just my own experience", "Not
meaning to tell people what to do," etc.?

Just my experience. :)

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Christina Websell - 29 Jan 2008 23:38 GMT
> > "Marina" <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>
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> sleep with them, and now they're complaining that they don't sleep well -
> what's wrong with this picture??" (Is that close?)

Yes.

> So maybe you didn't mean to judge people for their choices as much as,
> maybe, you were wondering why they weren't seeing what you consider to
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> online. So what does it hurt to say, "Just my own experience", "Not
> meaning to tell people what to do," etc.?

I'm sorry if what I said was upsetting, I did not mean it to be, truly. I
will stay away for a while.

.
Steve Touchstone - 31 Jan 2008 10:42 GMT
>Tweed, I don't think you mean to make snide remarks either. Sometimes
>you do sound a little cranky or impatient, when somebody says something
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
>Joyce

I should probably just stay out of this, but I agree with what Joyce
is saying. I don't think you meant anything other than to, like Joyce
said, post what works for you personally. You're not the only one who
has written that they don't allow cats to join them in the bedroom.

OTOH, for some having a cat join them on the bed is one of the nice
things about having a cat. For some, having a purring cat curled up on
the pillow next to them is just about the cat's meow ;-) I've read
more than once that when a cat has gone over the Bridge the thing
their person misses the most is not having that warm body purring away
next to them when they go to bed. While I don't think you meant to be
snide or hurtful, I think your reply touched a raw nerve this time.
Marina - 31 Jan 2008 18:05 GMT
> OTOH, for some having a cat join them on the bed is one of the nice
> things about having a cat. For some, having a purring cat curled up on
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> next to them when they go to bed. While I don't think you meant to be
> snide or hurtful, I think your reply touched a raw nerve this time.

It's true that I still miss Frank each and every night. He would never
let many minutes pass before he would join me in bed and curl up, either
around my head or on the pillow next to mine, and purr me to sleep. But
I wasn't thinking of him (at least, not consciously), but I thought
Christina was being unnecessarily harsh towards Susan. Maybe I read it
wrong. Maybe I was subconsciously thinking of Frank and how much I miss
him beside me every evening.

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Granby - 31 Jan 2008 22:47 GMT
A cats purrrrrring is a miracle in itself.  I was working with O. T.
Mahoney, my orange This as the girls call him, to be nurseinghome visitor.
Worked until someone's family complained.  Funny thing was the lady whose
family complained was interesting.

When I got the nurse to let me put O. T. on the bed she said "honey this
lady hasn't responded for weeks".  However she allowed me to place him on
the bed. We put his butt towards her and laid her hand on top of him.  With
in a minute, he was purring away and, her hand began to skretch his butt.
He flipped around, snuggled up to her and she rubbed his head for a good
half hour.  Sometimes I think families are afraid people will get better.

>> OTOH, for some having a cat join them on the bed is one of the nice
>> things about having a cat. For some, having a purring cat curled up on
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> wrong. Maybe I was subconsciously thinking of Frank and how much I miss
> him beside me every evening.
Christina Websell - 01 Feb 2008 00:27 GMT
> > I thought Christina was being unnecessarily harsh towards Susan.

In what way?  I admire Susan for managing Otis and have always said so.

> Maybe I read it wrong.

I am not sure what you think I said or meant.
What did you think I meant?  Maybe I can explain it better if you tell me
the misunderstanding.
mlbriggs - 04 Feb 2008 00:09 GMT
>> > I thought Christina was being unnecessarily harsh towards Susan.
>
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> I am not sure what you think I said or meant. What did you think I meant?
> Maybe I can explain it better if you tell me the misunderstanding.
======
This, I know is changing the subject.  How is the broken rib?  How long
were you out of work?   Did your chickens survive the storms?   Stormy
weather is hard on sensitive bone and can add to misery.   How do I know
this?  We really have had big storms and more snow is due shortly.  How is
KFC holding up?  Has Boyfriend caught any doves recently?

Best wishes to all who hurt one way or another.   MLB
Christina Websell - 06 Feb 2008 19:47 GMT
> How is the broken rib?

Plural.  Getting there.

How long
> were you out of work?

Still am.  I cannot drive for more than about ten minutes yet because of the
pressure on my ribs leaning against the car seat.  My commute to work is 45
minutes.  Saw the doctor today, have another 2 weeks and am hoping to return
to work then.

> Did your chickens survive the storms?

Yes, they are all fine. Putting several 2 gallon buckets of water on each
roof kept them on in such wild winds up to 80 mph.  It happens most years
recently. It's not easy to do it alone with broken ribs but if you have to
do it, you have to do it.

How is
> KFC holding up?

She needs a lot of caring for, to be honest, but I can do it.

> Has Boyfriend caught any doves recently?

No.  There are plenty around.  It's easy to see them in the winter when the
leaves are off the trees and when I go in the evening  to shut up Francis
Drake they explode out of my trees where they were settling to roost.
Boyfie is a wimp in winter weather.  He likes to sleep on the spare bed most
of the day when its cold so catching collared doves for Kitty is out right
now.

Tweed
Christina Websell - 29 Jan 2008 21:03 GMT
>>> > I am always amused by folks who allow their cats to sleep with them
>>> and then
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> Frankly, I feel sorry for your cats.  Never knowing what cuddling up w/the
> human is like???????????  Well, it's just plain sad...  really sad.  :(

I think you misunderstand me.  When my whippets were at near the end of
their life they were in bed with me every night so I could care for their
needs.  They were not a nuisance,
I do not find it necessary to have healthy cats in/on my bed every night.
Yet.
Do not feel sorry for my cats, they have a good life.    We do cuddle and if
I thought they needed to be in my bedroom I would let them in there.
They don't.

Tweed
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 29 Jan 2008 21:43 GMT
>>>> > I am always amused by folks who allow their cats to sleep with them
>>>> and then
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>
> Tweed

It's all good, Tweed.  I thought about you last night when I had all six of
my grrr-animals passed out in my room.  I just wouldn't have it any other
way...  and I suppose your way works for you.  Just as long as the furkids
are happy, right??  :)
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Outsider - 28 Jan 2008 20:24 GMT
leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk wrote in news:155bde65-bfd1-4726-bb12-
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> > I am always amused by folks who allow their cats to sleep with them
> and then
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> Helen M

That's funny!
 
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