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Saw Star again - and neuter/cone question

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Susan M - 21 Jan 2008 04:20 GMT
Hi there:

I went to visit Star again today to keep up his progress with
remembering/learning that humans can be okay.  He purred on my lap again
and I gave him a couple of catnip treats as well.  I unleashed the inner
kitten in him and, for the first time, he played.  It did my heart good
to see him relax enough to do that.

He also rolled over and showed me him tummy.  I took the plunge and
rubbed it a bit and he liked it!

He's a *big* talker.  Yikes - sounds like Otis.  LOUD when he complains
(he wanted out of the little room) and mrrrp'y and other meows.  He'll
be a chatty companion for Sarah.

His eye was dripping a little bit so they put him on the vet list for
tomorrow to have him looked at.

They say he has to wear a cone for 2 weeks after neutering??????
Neither of my boys did that.  Anybody remember what they did for their
boys post snip?  I'm worried about stressing him out with a cone.

I don't really have the time to be sporting into the shelter to visit
but I think its really important to socialize him as much as possible
before he meets Sarah - also, to make sure he keeps his spark and
doesn't get depressed.  He gets sprung on Wednesday!

Susan M
Otis and Chester
Christine K. - 21 Jan 2008 04:22 GMT
Susan M kirjoitti:

> They say he has to wear a cone for 2 weeks after neutering?????? Neither
> of my boys did that.  Anybody remember what they did for their boys post
> snip?  I'm worried about stressing him out with a cone.

Neither Laku nor Nico had to wear anything in particular, cones or other
stuff, after their snip. The procedure was fast and all one had to do
afterwards was to monitor them waking up from the anesthesia, so they
didn't stumble around too badly and hurt themselves. One was supposed to
try to keep them from licking the area too much, but they were licking
as soon as you turned your back anyway, so...

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jofirey - 21 Jan 2008 04:35 GMT
> Hi there:
>
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> Susan M
> Otis and Chester

We've had three boy cats snipped over the years and never did anything post
snip.  Sounds like a real excess of caution.

Then again I'd let them send him home with a cone.  Sarah can always take it
off and will have it around to put back on if he should need it.  Could save
the cost of a vet visit to get one if he does go after his stitches.

Jo
Adrian - 21 Jan 2008 21:35 GMT
>> Hi there:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> after his stitches.
> Jo

When Shadow had his snip he didn't have any stitches.
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Gandalf - 21 Jan 2008 05:05 GMT
>Hi there:
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>Susan M
>Otis and Chester

I'm glad Star is doing so well. He sound like such a sweet kitty!

He's pretty too! I everything goes well for him!

Most vets don't put a cone on after neutering.

Or if they do, only for a few days. Personally I would recommend a cone
for a day or two. Cat saliva tends to have a lot of staph bacteria in
it, which is why when cats fight, the wounds tend to abscess so often.

When I worked for a vet, we never used a cone after neutering. But we
dosed the cats with 2 different antibiotics; enough to get past the risk
of infection for a few days.

Two weeks sounds really, really unnecessary to me. The area is very well
vascularized, and heals quickly.

It's fairly common after spaying, of course. That is major surgery, and
takes awhile to heal.

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Granby - 21 Jan 2008 07:33 GMT
I would have to ask about the cone.  My O. T. didn't have to wear such a
thing and neither did Mr. Lewi my son's cat.  I would think that would be so
stressful.  Doesn't make sense to me.

>>Hi there:
>>
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> Life is very difficult. Once you understand that, life becomes easier.
> -Buddha
Marina - 21 Jan 2008 05:34 GMT
> Hi there:
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> (he wanted out of the little room) and mrrrp'y and other meows.  He'll
> be a chatty companion for Sarah.

He sounds so lovely.

> His eye was dripping a little bit so they put him on the vet list for
> tomorrow to have him looked at.
>
> They say he has to wear a cone for 2 weeks after neutering?????? Neither
> of my boys did that.  Anybody remember what they did for their boys post
> snip?  I'm worried about stressing him out with a cone.

Whaa?? I have Caliban's snip in fresh memory. Definitely no cone. The
vet said he might be licking the site a bit, but that I shouldn't worry
unless he overdid it - i.e. wouldn't do anything else but lick it all
the time. But Caliban was OK, he sniffed at the site a bit, then he
forgot about it and went on his merry way.

> I don't really have the time to be sporting into the shelter to visit
> but I think its really important to socialize him as much as possible
> before he meets Sarah - also, to make sure he keeps his spark and
> doesn't get depressed.  He gets sprung on Wednesday!

Yay!

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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 21 Jan 2008 05:57 GMT
> I have Caliban's snip in fresh memory. Definitely no cone. The
> vet said he might be licking the site a bit, but that I shouldn't worry
> unless he overdid it - i.e. wouldn't do anything else but lick it all
> the time. But Caliban was OK, he sniffed at the site a bit, then he
> forgot about it and went on his merry way.

Easy come, easy go. :)

Joyce

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LesleyM - 21 Jan 2008 09:41 GMT
. But Caliban was OK, he sniffed at the site a bit, then he
>forgot about it and went on his merry way.

Reminds me of my friend Mick's cat Sam (possibly RB by now- he was 12 when
Mick died in 200) coming back from his snip. Apparently he settled down for a
wash and when he reached his privates he stopped and stared at the place then
at Mick as if to say "Where did my balls go?"

Lesley

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Takayuki - 21 Jan 2008 09:44 GMT
>He's a *big* talker.  Yikes - sounds like Otis.  LOUD when he complains
>(he wanted out of the little room) and mrrrp'y and other meows.  He'll
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Neither of my boys did that.  Anybody remember what they did for their
>boys post snip?  I'm worried about stressing him out with a cone.

He sounds like a very good boy.  Regarding neutering, this particular
video was of Buster a day after he was neutered:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmhdr0xR2Qc

As you can see, he was cello-y for a while, and his incision bled a
bit for a few days, but the vet said that was normal.  In his surgery
records, his neuter was described as, "Routine cat neuter.  Blade
incision over each scrotum.  Autoligation, closed castration, tied, no
sutures, no glue."

I'm not clear on what "each scrotum" means though, as mammals have
only one scrotum.
Kreisleriana - 21 Jan 2008 10:50 GMT
>>He's a *big* talker.  Yikes - sounds like Otis.  LOUD when he complains
>>(he wanted out of the little room) and mrrrp'y and other meows.  He'll
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> I'm not clear on what "each scrotum" means though, as mammals have
> only one scrotum.

What a totally delicious boy!  All those stripeys and thumbs.  And of
course, a cello solo, but he could be distracted by skritches!
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 21 Jan 2008 22:00 GMT
> In [Buster's] surgery
> records, his neuter was described as, "Routine cat neuter.  Blade
> incision over each scrotum.  Autoligation, closed castration, tied, no
> sutures, no glue."

> I'm not clear on what "each scrotum" means though, as mammals have
> only one scrotum.

Oh, c'mon. They just mean each ball. A bit of imprecise language is all.

Joyce
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tanadashoes - 21 Jan 2008 23:33 GMT
On Jan 21, 5:00 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:

>  > In [Buster's] surgery
>  > records, his neuter was described as, "Routine cat neuter.  Blade
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
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I  dunno, maybe Buster was a mutant.

Pam S. really smiling
Takayuki - 22 Jan 2008 00:52 GMT
>On Jan 21, 5:00 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>Pam S. really smiling

Buster is a poly after all!
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 22 Jan 2008 01:06 GMT
>> I  dunno, maybe Buster was a mutant.

> Buster is a poly after all!

You never know what's under the tail of a polydactyl. I mean, you know
what they say about men with large hands. :)

Joyce
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Takayuki - 22 Jan 2008 00:51 GMT
> > In [Buster's] surgery
> > records, his neuter was described as, "Routine cat neuter.  Blade
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Oh, c'mon. They just mean each ball. A bit of imprecise language is all.

That's what I thought too, except it looked like it was just one
incision right down the middle.  Not having had a boy kitty before, I
was a bit concerned about it, and kept prodding and poking him there
for weeks afterwards to make sure there was none of the inflammation
or tenderness my vet told me to watch for.

I found that this scrotal-retentiveness works against me though.  When
a friend's friends invited me over their home for dinner for the first
time, as we were on the couch watching a video, next to their snoozing
recently neutered cat, I lifted up the kitty's tail to see if it
looked any different there from Buster.  The hostess gave me a such an
odd look. :)
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 22 Jan 2008 01:04 GMT
> I found that this scrotal-retentiveness works against me though.

LOL, scrotal-retentiveness.

> When
> a friend's friends invited me over their home for dinner for the first
> time, as we were on the couch watching a video, next to their snoozing
> recently neutered cat, I lifted up the kitty's tail to see if it
> looked any different there from Buster.  The hostess gave me a such an
> odd look. :)

Maybe she thought you were a perv with a very unusual kink?

Joyce
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Kreisleriana - 21 Jan 2008 10:48 GMT
> Hi there:
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> of my boys did that.  Anybody remember what they did for their boys post
> snip?  I'm worried about stressing him out with a cone.

Neither of my boys did that either.  And the surgery  seemed not to affect
either one in any adverse way, even termporarily.  Once the anesthetic wore
off, both of them were back to their silly selves.  .

> I don't really have the time to be sporting into the shelter to visit but
> I think its really important to socialize him as much as possible before
> he meets Sarah - also, to make sure he keeps his spark and doesn't get
> depressed.  He gets sprung on Wednesday!

Purs for Star, and for you too, for all you are doing for this sweet little
guy!
Adrian - 21 Jan 2008 11:04 GMT
> Hi there:
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> Susan M
> Otis and Chester

When Shadow was snipped last year he was fine without a collar at all.
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Victor Martinez - 21 Jan 2008 12:25 GMT
> They say he has to wear a cone for 2 weeks after neutering?????? Neither
> of my boys did that.  Anybody remember what they did for their boys post
> snip?  I'm worried about stressing him out with a cone.

None of our cats has ever had to wear one of those contraptions.

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Cheryl P. - 21 Jan 2008 12:35 GMT
>> They say he has to wear a cone for 2 weeks after neutering??????
>> Neither of my boys did that.  Anybody remember what they did for their
>> boys post snip?  I'm worried about stressing him out with a cone.
>
> None of our cats has ever had to wear one of those contraptions.

Sam, my only male cat, didn't wear a cone after the neutering. He didn't
need any special care at all - the vets were more careful warning about
not letting my female cats jump (now, *that* was difficult!) and
watching their incisions than they were about Sam's operation.

Cheryl
Kreisleriana - 21 Jan 2008 14:07 GMT
>>> They say he has to wear a cone for 2 weeks after neutering?????? Neither
>>> of my boys did that.  Anybody remember what they did for their boys post
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Cheryl

Oh yes-- that I remember!  Post-spay, the little tuxedo tyrant Mimi didn't
lose a step.  She was a lively little critter, and I remember despairing as
she charged up the stairs as if nothing had happened at all.  There was no
holding her back.  Fortunately, she suffered no ill effects.
Granby - 21 Jan 2008 14:54 GMT
Yeah, telling you not to let a cat jump is like "don't let a dog bark."
Good luck!  I finally decided that if it hurt they wouldn't do it.  Kept all
of them in the dog cage for three days just to do my part in the "not
letting them jump."
>>> They say he has to wear a cone for 2 weeks after neutering?????? Neither
>>> of my boys did that.  Anybody remember what they did for their boys post
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Cheryl
bobblespin - 21 Jan 2008 15:47 GMT
Susan M <not_here@shaw.ca> wrote in news:5vikm6F1lveosU1
@mid.individual.net:

snip

> They say he has to wear a cone for 2 weeks after neutering??????
> Neither of my boys did that.  Anybody remember what they did for their
> boys post snip?  I'm worried about stressing him out with a cone.

I had 4 boys snipped over the years and none had to wear a cone.  They all
had a sniff at the area and got on with their routine with no problems.

Bobble
mlbriggs - 21 Jan 2008 18:02 GMT
> Hi there:
>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Susan M

Perhaps they plan to do an "amputation" which IMHO is not necessary,  Be
sure to question this.   MLB
Outsider - 21 Jan 2008 22:44 GMT
>> They say he has to wear a cone for 2 weeks after neutering??????
>> Neither of my boys did that.  Anybody remember what they did for
>> their boys post snip?  I'm worried about stressing him out with a
>> cone.

2 boys, no cone
Annie W - 21 Jan 2008 18:12 GMT
> Hi there:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>...> Susan M
> Otis and Chester

We've had two male cats neutered.  Neither needed a cone.  None of our
female spays needed a cone, either.
Just our experience.
Annie
Christina Websell - 21 Jan 2008 23:01 GMT
> They say he has to wear a cone for 2 weeks after neutering?????? Neither
> of my boys did that.  Anybody remember what they did for their boys post
> snip?  I'm worried about stressing him out with a cone.

I took Boyfie for his snip in the a.m. and he came home in the p.m.  His
scrotum was not stitched.  He cello'd for about 24 hours on and off but he
did not have to wear a cone.
He was given a long lasting antibiotic injection and I think a painkiller
too and 36 hours after his op he was out on rat patrol as if nothing had
ever happened.
I would challenge the decision - did they mix him up and think he was a
female, perhaps?

Tweed
tanadashoes - 21 Jan 2008 23:36 GMT
On Jan 21, 6:01 pm, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:

> > They say he has to wear a cone for 2 weeks after neutering?????? Neither
> > of my boys did that.  Anybody remember what they did for their boys post
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Tweed

None of our females were given cones either, and they went to TEDs in
several locations.

It all reads like someone is misinformed, my guess would be the case
worker.  Whoever has Star after they get done with him can remove the
cone if they wish after they get him home.  Common sense should rule,
in my opinion.

Pam S.
Steve Touchstone - 22 Jan 2008 09:44 GMT
<snip>
>They say he has to wear a cone for 2 weeks after neutering??????
>Neither of my boys did that.  Anybody remember what they did for their
>boys post snip?  I'm worried about stressing him out with a cone.

With my vet they don't send a collar home unless you ask for one, and
then you put a couple dollars down as a deposit, which you get back
when you go back to get the stitches out. Sammy ripped out her
stitches on the ride back from TED when she came home, and of course I
didn't have one.  So ever since then I've always brought home one
home, but she is the only one who wore one. Rocky was the only male
I've had done, and he never paid any attention to his stitches. Good
thing. too, because I don't know if I could have gotten one on, never
mind kept it on him.

>I don't really have the time to be sporting into the shelter to visit
>but I think its really important to socialize him as much as possible
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Susan M
>Otis and Chester
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Granby - 22 Jan 2008 12:09 GMT
I asked my vet about the collar thing and he was amazed that on this type of
surgery it was still being used!  If they notice a problem after surgery,
the car trying to dig the stitches then it would be a good idea.  However,
he said that with all this type of thing he does, he works with the local
animal shelter, he has never used one.  He said that yes, a few have pulled
their own stitch, sometimes he uses the glue stuff, but an event of that
kind is rare.  Purrz that Star bonds with her new  hooman fast.

> <snip>
>>They say he has to wear a cone for 2 weeks after neutering??????
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>>Susan M
>>Otis and Chester
polonca12000 - 27 Jan 2008 22:32 GMT
> Hi there:
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> Susan M
> Otis and Chester

Soncek didn't have to wear a cone after neutering.
Best wishes,
POlonca and Soncek
Jack Campin - bogus address - 28 Jan 2008 01:10 GMT
> They say he has to wear a cone for 2 weeks after neutering??????
> Neither of my boys did that.  Anybody remember what they did for
> their boys post snip?  I'm worried about stressing him out with
> a cone.

I've never heard of that - Ollie (the last one done) didn't even have
any stitches.  "They" seem a bit weird.

When we had Marblecake spayed they put a cone on her and she had
it off before I even got her to the bus stop.  We took the hint
and gave up on it.  No adverse effects, she didn't try to pull
the stitches out.

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