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Life Changes [OT mostly, but blessedly short]

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Ginger-lyn - 11 Jan 2008 18:49 GMT
I give up on catching up; it's impossible.  Warm, soft, fuzzy blanket
purrs to all who need them.

My bed broke.  Again.  I had to buy a regular ol' bed, but I guess
that's okay.  It's comfortable enough, and I can have the cats all back
in the bedroom with me now.

There are all kinds of health issues cropping up (mostly mild, so far).
 Many are undiagnosed as yet.  I hope all are mild and easily dealt with.

DH and I are getting a divorce.  We are still going to counseling a few
more times to see if we can disengage gently. I do not know how I am
going to survive financially, which scares the #$%^^ out of me.  I am
applying for SSI, which would at least cover rent and cat food/litter.
I'll worry about the rest later.  I just hope I can get SSI; if not, I
am completely screwed.

Kitties are all hanging in there; Pinky is still here, and with the
impending separation/divorce, as far as I'm concerned, he's home.  He
has made it plain that in his mind, he *is* home.  So I guess *10* is my
new limit.  And there it will stay.  And I will adopt no more.  I am
expecting it to be likely that neither Internet nor Cosmo will see the
end of 2008.  You never know, but with their age and health problems, it
would be a miracle.  Sh*t, now I'm crying.

At any rate, I said short, so there it is.

Purrs to everyone,

Ginger-lyn
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Matthew - 11 Jan 2008 18:56 GMT
Ginger My prayers are with you
I know how you fell it is now year one of my divorce

>I give up on catching up; it's impossible.  Warm, soft, fuzzy blanket purrs
>to all who need them.
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Ginger-lyn
Ginger-lyn - 12 Jan 2008 18:00 GMT
> Ginger My prayers are with you
> I know how you fell it is now year one of my divorce

Thank you, Matthew.  I guess we're in the same boat; I hope you're
holding up okay.  Hang in there; I'm sure we'll both make it through
this okay.

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Matthew - 12 Jan 2008 18:12 GMT
>> Ginger My prayers are with you
>> I know how you fell it is now year one of my divorce
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Ginger-lyn

WE BOTH WILL GINGER WE HAVE OUR MASTERS AND OUR FRIENDS IN THE RPCA

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Joy - 11 Jan 2008 19:44 GMT
(((((((((Ginger-lyn)))))))))

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those who see the world as you do."  - Grant Cornwell

>I give up on catching up; it's impossible.  Warm, soft, fuzzy blanket purrs
>to all who need them.
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Ginger-lyn
Ginger-lyn - 12 Jan 2008 18:00 GMT
> (((((((((Ginger-lyn)))))))))

Thank you, Joy.  I need hugs and friends right now more than ever.

Ginger-lyn

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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 11 Jan 2008 19:57 GMT
> My bed broke.  Again.  I had to buy a regular ol' bed, but I guess
> that's okay.  It's comfortable enough, and I can have the cats all back
> in the bedroom with me now.

That sounds like a nice silver lining!

> DH and I are getting a divorce.  We are still going to counseling a few
> more times to see if we can disengage gently. I do not know how I am
> going to survive financially, which scares the #$%^^ out of me.  I am
> applying for SSI, which would at least cover rent and cat food/litter.
> I'll worry about the rest later.  I just hope I can get SSI; if not, I
> am completely screwed.

I'm sorry that things aren't working out with your DH. :(  You both have
certainly given it your best. I guess financial considerations alone aren't
a good enough reason to stay with someone, but that doesn't make your
situation any easier. :(

As for SSI, prepare to be turned down as a matter of course, at least
the first time you apply. This does NOT mean you can't get it, it's just
what they do. Don't ask me why. I'm not an expert at this, haven't worked
in the field or anything, but I have been close to a couple of people who
were on it, so I've seen what they went through.

You might try to find out if there are any non-profit agencies around
that do advocacy for SSI and disability benefits. I used to have a friend
a number of years ago who did just this. She was a lawyer and gave either
free or very inexpensive legal advice and advocacy to people who were
trying to get on SSI or SSDI. It can be quite a maze to go through, though
I guess if you've been on any other kind of assistance, then you already
know this! My friend worked in San Jose, California, but there might be
a similar agency in your area.

Congrats on Pinky, even if he does up your number to 10. :)

Purrs,
Joyce

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Ginger-lyn - 12 Jan 2008 18:06 GMT
>  > My bed broke.  Again.  I had to buy a regular ol' bed, but I guess
>  > that's okay.  It's comfortable enough, and I can have the cats all back
>  > in the bedroom with me now.
>
> That sounds like a nice silver lining!

I think so, too :-)  I can't wait to be able to cuddle up with several
of my guys again (today or tomorrow, as soon as DH tears apart the
waterbed frame and puts the box springs and mattress on a *real* frame
so I don't feel like it's so precarious.

>  > DH and I are getting a divorce.  We are still going to counseling a few
>  > more times to see if we can disengage gently. I do not know how I am
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> a good enough reason to stay with someone, but that doesn't make your
> situation any easier. :(

No, it isn't, and no it doesn't.  I think the financial considerations
are the main reason I have put up with this for so long.  I'm 52 years
old, have a load of medical problems, and haven't worked at a "real" job
in about 10 years.  I'm very, very scared.

> As for SSI, prepare to be turned down as a matter of course, at least
> the first time you apply. This does NOT mean you can't get it, it's just
> what they do. Don't ask me why. I'm not an expert at this, haven't worked
> in the field or anything, but I have been close to a couple of people who
> were on it, so I've seen what they went through.

I know.  I tried for SSDI a couple of years ago, and it was a nightmare.
 I was turned down twice, and gave up when they tried to demand I go to
to Dayton to see *their* pulmonologist.  How was I supposed to get to
Dayton with no transportation and no money (we were separated that time)?

> You might try to find out if there are any non-profit agencies around
> that do advocacy for SSI and disability benefits. I used to have a friend
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> know this! My friend worked in San Jose, California, but there might be
> a similar agency in your area.

That's a good idea.  I tried going with attorneys for the SSDI, but they
were useless.  They never even met me; just sent me paperwork a couple
of times to sign.

> Congrats on Pinky, even if he does up your number to 10. :)

Thank you.  He is a doll, and I love him dearly.

> Purrs,
> Joyce

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leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 11 Jan 2008 20:34 GMT
> DH and I are getting a divorce.  We are still going to counseling a few
> more times to see if we can disengage gently. I do not know how I am
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Ginger-lyn

We are sending many purrs and prayers that things work out OK.

{{{{{{{GINGER-LYN}}}}}}

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Ginger-lyn - 12 Jan 2008 18:07 GMT
>> DH and I are getting a divorce.  We are still going to counseling a few
>> more times to see if we can disengage gently. I do not know how I am
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Helen M

Thank you so much, Helen.

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Adrian - 11 Jan 2008 22:00 GMT
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Ginger-lyn - 12 Jan 2008 18:07 GMT
> {{{{{{{{{{{{ Ginger-lyn }}}}}}}}}}}}

Thank you, Adrian -- I need all the hugs I can get right now.

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Marina - 12 Jan 2008 04:48 GMT
> I give up on catching up; it's impossible.  Warm, soft, fuzzy blanket
> purrs to all who need them.

Purrs and hugs, Ginger-lyn. I'm glad to hear Pinky is home and all your
babies can sleep in the bed again, but sorry about how things have
developed with DH. Purrs also for the bureaucracy ahead of you if you
apply for this SSI (I understand it's some sort of disability support?).

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jmcquown - 12 Jan 2008 12:36 GMT
>> I give up on catching up; it's impossible.  Warm, soft, fuzzy blanket
>> purrs to all who need them.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> if you apply for this SSI (I understand it's some sort of disability
> support?).

Yeah, it's disability support and GL can expect them to fight her tooth and
nail.  It's what they do.

Purrs for Ginger-Lyn.  Oh, and divorce isn't always a bad thing.  I wound
out financially better off because I wasn't having to pay for his bad
habits.  My ex husband was a blood sucking money grubbing non-working SOB.
I don't claim to know GL's soon to be ex- but if he is as unsupportive both
mentally and financially as my ex-husband was, don't let the screen door hit
ya where the good lord split ya!

Jill
Ginger-lyn - 12 Jan 2008 18:12 GMT
>>> I give up on catching up; it's impossible.  Warm, soft, fuzzy blanket
>>> purrs to all who need them.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Yeah, it's disability support and GL can expect them to fight her tooth and
> nail.  It's what they do.

Yep, and make you feel about 6 inches tall while doing it.

> Purrs for Ginger-Lyn.  Oh, and divorce isn't always a bad thing.  I wound
> out financially better off because I wasn't having to pay for his bad
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Jill

Well, he does work and did support me financially (all the while
complaining about it).  As far as emotional support - forget it.

What finally sent me over the edge was (to make a long story short)
that, in the early hours of 2008, I found out he had lied to me about
being able to take time off to help with the move.  In other words, he
deliberately lied to me and put me through a hell which stopped my
broken bones from healing, and he didn't care.  That's when it's time to
give up.

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Lesley - 13 Jan 2008 20:36 GMT
> What finally sent me over the edge was (to make a long story short)
> that, in the early hours of 2008, I found out he had lied to me about
> being able to take time off to help with the move.  In other words, he
> deliberately lied to me and put me through a hell which stopped my
> broken bones from healing, and he didn't care.  That's when it's time to
> give up.

Remind me not to slag Dave off - okay he's a self-centred so and so
and he has his nasty moments when he's in a bad mood (see my other
post-he's been in one every morning this week apart from Friday) but
no way would he ever do that. The one time I couldn't do anything due
to a badly sprained knee, he did everything even the supermarket! (You
have to understand Dave hates supermarkets. I wouldn't say it's my
favourite thing but I am pretty good at working my way round and I
like finding something new or thinking "That looks nice- we can have
that for dinner tomorrow" or finding a bargain. Dave, bless, sets out
for supermarkets with the theory I am extravagant in extreme and he
can get better stuff cheaper  then panics throws things into his
trolley -my dad was the same when my mum was ill he spent three times
what he should have and left mum dragging herself to the shops as we
didn't have enough food for the week. Dave when I sprained my knee
came back with his purchases and I inspected them and said "Ace, We
have vegetables for the next week but only enough meat for two
days...but you did bring a 6-pack of Pieroni back so that's okay". The
only time I have ever taken him to a supermarket was where we used to
live, they had a sandwich bar or as I called it "Dave's crèche" so I
could plonk him in there with a coffee and a sandwich, do the shopping
then retrieve him to help carry it back- it's horses for courses in
our house normally, Dave considers supermarket or any sort of domestic
shopping as marginally less bad than the dentist but he does keep the
house spick and span whereas I am a fully paid up member of the
Quentin Crisp school of domestic management- wonder if we'll ever get
back to those glorious days?)

Okay he has his faults but when the brown stuff hits the rotating
blades he is there for me  and come May he's been there for me for 30
years..okay he's not brilliant at the verbal stuff when my best friend
died, I was sitting there sobbing and he didn't say a word until he
burst into tears (Mick was his friend as well) and said how much he
hated seeing me so sad and didn't know what to say to make it better

Reminds me of a conversation I had with two friends Tasha and Kathryn.
Kathryn was talking about how her ex husband would go pay rent/do
shopping/pay bills etc but although he was a nice guy he was
congenitally unable to walk past a betting shop without having a
flutter using said rent/food/bill money so sometimes if he got lucky
things would get paid but the trouble was if he had a win he would
feel "lucky" and put it all on the next horse so nine times out of ten
they'd be facing eviction/having the power cut off/hungry etc and when
she suggested it was a problem he would insist no, he just needed the
one big win and all their problems would be solved

Tasha then talked about her ex-husband. Sweet as they come until he
had a few drinks, which he again seemed to be unable to congenitally
resist then he'd accuse her of having an affair, lock her in the
house, steal her wages (to spend on more booze) and she lost two
babies as a result of his violence -he threw her downstairs the first
time and kicked her in the stomach for an hour or so the second time-
she'll never be able to have children as a result. ..(.I feel a bit
sorry for her, we lost touch due to a falling out..partly my fault but
I would have apologised but she would not have it but I gather she
married another "dream guy" who from what I hear isn't violent but
he's a control freak who meets her from work so she can't go out with
friends or anything he doesn't approve of- Dave doesn't mind he knows
I am not going to do anything nor would he can't even laugh at the
idea of his having an affair he just snaps "You know I'm not like
that!" and bless him I know I can trust him)

After listening to them I went home. Dave was watching telly with
Isis(RB) on his lap and he said "Nice evening?" and I gave him a big
kiss and he said "What's that for?" and I said "Because there's a lot
worse than you out there"

I sometimes think I am too hard on him- he's not perfect but then who
is? I'm not

Lesley

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Charleen Welton - 13 Jan 2008 21:14 GMT
Lesley, I tried to reach you off line but got the following:
Delivery to the following recipients failed.

LMadigan@hhnt.nhs.uk

Shall I continue trying that one in the hopes that it will work on one try
or another or do you have another I could use to reach you?

Charleen

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On Jan 12, 10:12 am, Ginger-lyn <glsum...@neptunelink.net> wrote:

> What finally sent me over the edge was (to make a long story short)
> that, in the early hours of 2008, I found out he had lied to me about
> being able to take time off to help with the move.  In other words, he
> deliberately lied to me and put me through a hell which stopped my
> broken bones from healing, and he didn't care.  That's when it's time to
> give up.

Remind me not to slag Dave off - okay he's a self-centred so and so
and he has his nasty moments when he's in a bad mood (see my other
post-he's been in one every morning this week apart from Friday) but
no way would he ever do that. The one time I couldn't do anything due
to a badly sprained knee, he did everything even the supermarket! (You
have to understand Dave hates supermarkets. I wouldn't say it's my
favourite thing but I am pretty good at working my way round and I
like finding something new or thinking "That looks nice- we can have
that for dinner tomorrow" or finding a bargain. Dave, bless, sets out
for supermarkets with the theory I am extravagant in extreme and he
can get better stuff cheaper  then panics throws things into his
trolley -my dad was the same when my mum was ill he spent three times
what he should have and left mum dragging herself to the shops as we
didn't have enough food for the week. Dave when I sprained my knee
came back with his purchases and I inspected them and said "Ace, We
have vegetables for the next week but only enough meat for two
days...but you did bring a 6-pack of Pieroni back so that's okay". The
only time I have ever taken him to a supermarket was where we used to
live, they had a sandwich bar or as I called it "Dave's crèche" so I
could plonk him in there with a coffee and a sandwich, do the shopping
then retrieve him to help carry it back- it's horses for courses in
our house normally, Dave considers supermarket or any sort of domestic
shopping as marginally less bad than the dentist but he does keep the
house spick and span whereas I am a fully paid up member of the
Quentin Crisp school of domestic management- wonder if we'll ever get
back to those glorious days?)

Okay he has his faults but when the brown stuff hits the rotating
blades he is there for me  and come May he's been there for me for 30
years..okay he's not brilliant at the verbal stuff when my best friend
died, I was sitting there sobbing and he didn't say a word until he
burst into tears (Mick was his friend as well) and said how much he
hated seeing me so sad and didn't know what to say to make it better

Reminds me of a conversation I had with two friends Tasha and Kathryn.
Kathryn was talking about how her ex husband would go pay rent/do
shopping/pay bills etc but although he was a nice guy he was
congenitally unable to walk past a betting shop without having a
flutter using said rent/food/bill money so sometimes if he got lucky
things would get paid but the trouble was if he had a win he would
feel "lucky" and put it all on the next horse so nine times out of ten
they'd be facing eviction/having the power cut off/hungry etc and when
she suggested it was a problem he would insist no, he just needed the
one big win and all their problems would be solved

Tasha then talked about her ex-husband. Sweet as they come until he
had a few drinks, which he again seemed to be unable to congenitally
resist then he'd accuse her of having an affair, lock her in the
house, steal her wages (to spend on more booze) and she lost two
babies as a result of his violence -he threw her downstairs the first
time and kicked her in the stomach for an hour or so the second time-
she'll never be able to have children as a result. ..(.I feel a bit
sorry for her, we lost touch due to a falling out..partly my fault but
I would have apologised but she would not have it but I gather she
married another "dream guy" who from what I hear isn't violent but
he's a control freak who meets her from work so she can't go out with
friends or anything he doesn't approve of- Dave doesn't mind he knows
I am not going to do anything nor would he can't even laugh at the
idea of his having an affair he just snaps "You know I'm not like
that!" and bless him I know I can trust him)

After listening to them I went home. Dave was watching telly with
Isis(RB) on his lap and he said "Nice evening?" and I gave him a big
kiss and he said "What's that for?" and I said "Because there's a lot
worse than you out there"

I sometimes think I am too hard on him- he's not perfect but then who
is? I'm not

Lesley

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Lesley - 13 Jan 2008 21:49 GMT
> Lesley, I tried to reach you off line but got the following:
> Delivery to the following recipients failed.
>
> LMadi...@hhnt.nhs.uk

That's an old address I use to stop spam it can all go there as far as
I am concerned!

Try Lesley.Madigan@imperial.nhs.uk
Ginger-lyn - 12 Jan 2008 18:09 GMT
>> I give up on catching up; it's impossible.  Warm, soft, fuzzy blanket
>> purrs to all who need them.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> developed with DH. Purrs also for the bureaucracy ahead of you if you
> apply for this SSI (I understand it's some sort of disability support?).

Thank you, Marina.

SSI is for financial disability support (if I understand it correctly
myself!).  I have heard it is a bit easier to receive than SSDI, which
is the full disability support.  I have no idea if that is true, but I
will slog through whatever I have to, and see what happens at the other end.

Ginger-lyn

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Bridget - 12 Jan 2008 18:48 GMT
>>> I give up on catching up; it's impossible.  Warm, soft, fuzzy blanket
>>> purrs to all who need them.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Ginger-lyn

Actually, when you apply, you apply for both. You don't have a choice.
If you have enough work credits, you get SSDI if you don't, you have
SSI. Sometimes, the SSDI isn't as high as their minimum, and you get
both. The best way to get it is to give them as much current information
as possible and to give them information from everywhere you can find it
going back as far as you can. You want to make your case absolutely
overwhelming. If they want you to see a doctor, they will pay for
transportation to get to said doctor if you can't get there. Applying
isn't supposed to cost you anything - even a long cab ride. You will
have to ask for that though it won't be automatically offered. And then
be prepared for them to turn your case down. When you get the rejection,
file an appeal with new information - go see your doctors again. Cite
how it affects you again and how you have been doing over the last few
months and send it in. They count on people not filing their appeal and
so they don't have to pay out. They figure they aren't really serious.
Once you have done all of that about 6-8 months will have passed. A
large percentage of people get the approval on the first appeal. If you
don't, then you contact attorneys for your final appeal. In most cases,
if an attorney will take on your case, they will give you the disability
because attorneys don't usually take on cases that aren't worthy since
it is a contingency case.

Bridget - who has gone through all of this (and got it) and has watched
a lot of friends go through this.
jmcquown - 13 Jan 2008 16:29 GMT
>>> I give up on catching up; it's impossible.  Warm, soft, fuzzy
>>> blanket purrs to all who need them.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Ginger-lyn

After I was diagnosed with depression, which I'd actually been suffering for
a number of years but which my primary care physician had recently put me on
medication for, I applied for SSDI.  To be honest, the stress of doing tech
support, software QA and writing documentation... sounds like three jobs,
doesn't it?  Actually is three jobs but they seemed to think I could work
24/7 and on weekends and holidays, no problem - made it worse.

The SSI folks will make you jump through hoops.  It seems to be easier to
get approved if you have something not quite as nebulous as a depression
diagnosis.

So they sent me to their psychiatrist.  I spent a whopping 15 or 20 minutes
with this guy.  He didn't know me from Adam, and frankly I wasn't terribly
impressed with him, either.  His office was in a shabby building.  He was
equally shabby.  He didn't even have a receptionist.  I could make the
excuse the receptionist had gone out to lunch except it was 9:30 in the
morning.  Anyway, he had me take a series of "tests".  Nothing as goofy as
the old ink-blot routine :)

One thing that stands out his he had me count backwards from 100 in
increments of 7 as fast as I could.  Folks, I'm bad at counting *foward* in
increments of 7!  I need a calculator to balance my check book.  And what
exactly did this have to do with my being depressed or not?  This and a
couple of other similar "tests" and he wrote a report to the State saying
I'm not depressed.

My doctor has known me for almost 30 years and he told me he was surprised I
hadn't brought up the subject years before.  (I didn't know there was a name
for being constantly lethargic, not wanting to leave the house,
sleeplessness, etc.)  This stranger talks to me 15-20 minutes and make a
snap judgement like that?!  I could have contested it but the whole idea
just depressed me more.  LOL

Good luck, Ginger-Lyn.  At least broken bones and physical issues are easier
to prove.

Jill
Lesley - 13 Jan 2008 19:29 GMT
> The SSI folks will make you jump through hoops.  It seems to be easier to
> get approved if you have something not quite as nebulous as a depression
> diagnosis.

A friend of ours over here was sent to be assessed .Well she arrived
at the place and found the office was on the 3rd floor and there was
no lift as she uses a chair this posed a bit of a stickler....

No problem- they said, we can carry your chair up the stairs! She
pointed out that was a bit undignified and recieved a sigh and rolled
eyes followed by "If it worries you that much you can always hold your
skirt down"

She then pointed out that her next consideration was she was not
prepared to be carried by untrained people, it would be dangerous for
them and dangerous for her as she has severe osteoporosis and could
suffer very badly if dropped so they basically told her that if she
would not submit to being carried then it would count as a "no show"
and she would have her benefit stopped. She wheeled herself out and
straight to her MP but she had to live off her savings for 3 months
while it
was sorted and said afterwards, she was glad she had savings but what
would happen to people who needed that money for their day to day
living?

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
jofirey - 13 Jan 2008 19:58 GMT
>>>> I give up on catching up; it's impossible.  Warm, soft, fuzzy
>>>> blanket purrs to all who need them.
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>
> Jill

The doctors I was sent to when I applied for SSDI were using borrowed office
space.  (At local medical offices)  They didn't impress me all that much
either.

One thing in particular I didn't like, they didn't list their names in the
letters that told me to show up for appointments and they didn't introduce
themselves.  I'm quite sure there are security issues involved and that
there are applicants they really don't ever want to see again as long as
they live, but still.

I insisted on asking both of them for their names and for a business card
for my records.

The count backwards from seven is a standard test.  Not really for
depression but for general mental functioning.  There would have been
several other Alzheimer's screening tests as well.

Jo
jmcquown - 15 Jan 2008 14:22 GMT
>> One thing that stands out his he had me count backwards from 100 in
>> increments of 7 as fast as I could.  Folks, I'm bad at counting
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> depression but for general mental functioning.  There would have been
> several other Alzheimer's screening tests as well.

Well I wasn't claiming to have Alzheimers.  I don't remember the other
mental exercises he had me do but I seriously doubt he could have determined
whether or not I was suffering from clinical depression from a 15-20 minute
visit, especially since he never asked me anything of a personal nature.

I tried to talk to him about the personality changes I'd undergone in the
past few years (before this visit).  Example:  I was an outgoing person.  I
was never incredibly social but I'd go to parties and have friends over.  I
started withdrawing from everyone and turning down all invitations.  I felt
terrible about telling everyone "no" but I just couldn't bring myself to get
enthusiastic about anything.

Now, I was never a meticulous housekeeper but it got to the point where I
just didn't give a crap anymore.  If someone wanted to come over I'd find
reasons for them not to because my apartment looked like crap.  Stuff like
that.  This psychiatrist didn't want to hear *anything* personal about me,
which AFAIK is the only way you can determine if someone suffers from
depression.  Changes in the before and after kind of thing.  (Not whether or
not I can count backwards from 100 in 7's.)

I guess being a state paid psychiatrist is akin to being a doctor in an
HMO - get 'em in, get 'em out and deny they have anything wrong with them;
it will cut down on costs.

I could have disputed my denied claim but frankly, I just didn't have the
energy to bother.  MY doctor finally managed to get me on the correct
medication in the right dosage.  I still have my bad moments but it's
nothing like it was 6 or 7 years ago.  And my doctor knows my situation so
whenever they have samples I can pick the medication up at no cost.

Jill
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 15 Jan 2008 20:29 GMT
> I could have disputed my denied claim but frankly, I just didn't have the
> energy to bother.

....A classic symptom of clinical depression!  (That alone
should have sent you seeking a second opinion.)  But I can
relate - I spent most of last year, isolated in an
apartment in a town where I didn't know a soul, flirting
with the condition, not realizing that was my problem until
I had the sense to move where I'd have some contact with
other people, and my whole outlook on life changed!  (In my
case, that was all that was required, but I was lucky.)

Certainly I knew the symptoms more or less at first hand:  A
friend of mine once confided that he was looking for a
support group for depression.  I assumed he'd found one,
since he never mentioned it to me again.

One day a few months later - in June or July - he told me
his hot water heater had gone out, and asked if he could
shower at my place (to which I agreed).  When he asked
again, a few days after the first time (his water heater
still wasn't fixed), I wasn't planning to be home, so
refused - with a question about what his plumber had had to
say.  Since he never again mentioned it, I thought the
heater had been replaced.  (BTW, it was not a problem of
finances - he had a good retirement income, and was an
office manager for H & R Block for about six months out of
every year.)

He died (heart attack, not suicide) the following November.
 When his family came to L.A. to see to his affairs, they
told me his house was a total disaster area.  He had
apparently been living there without hot water since he
first mentioned it to me, and nothing else that required
attention had been taken care of, either!  (THAT'S GENUINE
DEPRESSION!)
Lesley - 12 Jan 2008 18:04 GMT
Sending you lotsa purrs and hugs (and being proved right to myself
when I saw Pinky on your Xmas card I said "She's leeping him I just
know she is!")

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Susan M - 13 Jan 2008 04:51 GMT
> There are all kinds of health issues cropping up (mostly mild, so far).
>  Many are undiagnosed as yet.  I hope all are mild and easily dealt with.

Purrs to feel better.

> DH and I are getting a divorce.  We are still going to counseling a few
> more times to see if we can disengage gently. I do not know how I am
> going to survive financially, which scares the #$%^^ out of me.  I am
> applying for SSI, which would at least cover rent and cat food/litter.
> I'll worry about the rest later.  I just hope I can get SSI; if not, I
> am completely screwed.

I am really sorry to hear this Ginger-Lyn.  More purrs.

> Kitties are all hanging in there; Pinky is still here, and with the
> impending separation/divorce, as far as I'm concerned, he's home.  He
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> end of 2008.  You never know, but with their age and health problems, it
> would be a miracle.  Sh*t, now I'm crying.

Thinking of you Ginger-Lyn.

Susan M
Otis and Chester
sam - 14 Jan 2008 01:49 GMT
> I give up on catching up; it's impossible.  Warm, soft, fuzzy blanket
> purrs to all who need them.
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>
> Ginger-lyn
{{{{{{{{{{{ Ginger-lyn }}}}}}}}}}
Wish I could offer more help.

Sam, supervised by Mistletoe
Ginger-lyn - 16 Jan 2008 17:56 GMT
>> I give up on catching up; it's impossible.  Warm, soft, fuzzy blanket
>> purrs to all who need them.
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>
> Sam, supervised by Mistletoe

Thank you, Sam.  Hugs are always good :-)

Ginger-lyn

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polonca12000 - 16 Jan 2008 22:00 GMT
> I give up on catching up; it's impossible.  Warm, soft, fuzzy blanket
> purrs to all who need them.
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>
> Ginger-lyn

We are sending lots and lots of purrs and gentle hugs for you Ginger-lyn
and for the kitties,
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