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jmcquown - 10 Jan 2008 01:20 GMT
I'm considering driving back to South Carolina with Persia, probably in
early March.  And I'll be staying for an undetermined length of time.  So
how do I transport Persia?

When I put her in her carrier she freaks out, like any cat does.  She cries
and yowls and mews and complains.  She just knows she's going to TED, that
guy who pokes and prods her and isn't nice.

Problem is, this time she won't be going there.  It's a two or three day
drive.  I can find pet friendly motels, no problem.  But what do I do to
keep her calm along the long drive?  Is there some herbal something that
will keep her relaxed or do I have to resort to drugs provided by her vet?

There's no way I will fly there with her in the baggage hold.  No way she'll
sit quietly under the seat of a plane in front of me, either.  LOL  She's a
grey meezer... very vocal.  So... driving we will probably go.

What about her needing a litter box?  The last time I drove there I had a
dog.  It was easy enough to let him out of the car to pee on a tree and do
whatever other business he had to do.  I have no idea how to accomplish this
with a cat.  Where do you put a litter box for a cat in a car?

I will say I have a hatchback car with plenty of room if I lay down the
seat.  But I don't see letting her roam around a good idea.  Maybe I could
get a cage like they have at shelters?  The ones with a shelf for sleeping
with her afghan on top and a place for a small litter box and her food and
water bowls on the bottom?

Suggestions for driving with a cat for 2-3 days are welcome.

Jill
Will in New Haven - 10 Jan 2008 02:05 GMT
> I'm considering driving back to South Carolina with Persia, probably in
> early March.  And I'll be staying for an undetermined length of time.  So
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> with her afghan on top and a place for a small litter box and her food and
> water bowls on the bottom?

I will email my brother to see what he did when he drove WooToo from
Maryland to Connecticut when our mom passed away and I had to take in
my WooToo. For that matter, he drove WooToo from Columbus, Ohiio to
Annapolis some time previous to that. He has experience in this.

Will in New Haven

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> Suggestions for driving with a cat for 2-3 days are welcome.
>
> Jill
Jack Campin - bogus address - 10 Jan 2008 10:55 GMT
> I'm considering driving back to South Carolina with Persia, probably in
> early March.  And I'll be staying for an undetermined length of time.  So
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> keep her calm along the long drive?  Is there some herbal something that
> will keep her relaxed or do I have to resort to drugs provided by her vet?

I can't remember your situation, but is there any way you could transport
her with another cat she knows?  I've never done that distance, but for
short trips I've always found that a friend is the best sedative.

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jmcquown - 10 Jan 2008 12:34 GMT
>> I'm considering driving back to South Carolina with Persia, probably
>> in early March.  And I'll be staying for an undetermined length of
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> for
> short trips I've always found that a friend is the best sedative.

LOL Persia hates other cats.  In fact, she knocked my sliding screen door
off the track once because she flung herself at it so hard trying to chase a
cat off the patio.  If she were a student they'd classify her as "does not
work or play well with others".

Jill
Stormmee - 10 Jan 2008 02:09 GMT
here are a few things I am sure of:
-get her a harness and keep it on her totally while on the trip, even if she
despises it  is a safety net for the worst case, it can have her tags and
your id attached, also if she escapes it is easier to grab the harness than
the cat.
-get the biggest cage you can if you can afford it and have the space.
-if you need a smaller cage to carry it then that is fine.
-put her litter box in the floor of the passenger side of the car.  what we
use is a cheap sweater box with a lid which we close when traveling.
-get those cheap kitchen gloves from Sam's club or similar.  if you have
these you can pick up kitty deposits, pull the glove off over your hand and
then discard without touching it and without having a rake or shovel in the
car to take up space and be dangerous in case of accident.
-procedure for letting her use the box:
--you get to the gas station, do everything you need to do before letting
her go.
-your gas, your bathroom break, your snack, you paid, then move the car and
lock the doors, open the box and then open the carrier. let her have a
predetermined amount of time say ten minutes, then even if she doesn't go
put her back.
--if she does go you can offer her a snack or/and a drink of water.
--if she doesn't go just offer the water.
-if she is very vocal you might get a very small kitty jail and keep it on
the front seat and have it so she can see you.
-you might look into some rescue remedy for a while before you start the
trip and while on the trip.
-I just figure the yowling is a pat of the trip and eventually they all have
to nap, they are after all cats.
-food, it seems to me that she is on a restricted diet so you might put her
daily allowance in baggies and keep today's portion with you in the front
seat so she can eat a few crunchiest as you go after the bathroom breaks.
then when you get to the hotel you can give her the balance at night, will
give her time to eat it and might afford you some sleep.
-hotel stays;
--I always keep a cat in the bathroom at night unless it yowls enough to
disturb the neighbors.  safer for the cat and easier to find them, nobody
has to deal with moving mattresses the next day.
-be sure to see what kind of shower curtain there is incase this might be
shredded.
-put carrier, box and food and water in there with her.
-this is also good as if you want to leave for dinner or to get a snack she
is secure in there not loose in the room or cramped in the cage.
-I am not opposed to sedation but I avoid it unless the cat gets so stressed
it might injure their health.  honestly I have never had one of any of mine
cry for more than about 45 minutes.
-another thing you might consider, not sure if it is germane to yours, but
if you have one you  have to push the water on you might consider taking at
leas a couple of gallons of the water she gets at home just to make sure,
you could also pre mix the RR I think, can't remember for sure.
-you might get her medical records copied and put them in a safe place in
the car in case of an accident of  she becomes ill you have records to show
a new vet.

Hope I haven't bored you to tears and sorry for the poor formatting, my
hands are sore but this is so important, not only for her safety but because
this isn't a pleasure trip for you, you may be distracted and therefore
should plan extra hard and be extra cautious, I do think it is much better
than boarding her, both for her emotional security and your wallet,

Lee
> I'm considering driving back to South Carolina with Persia, probably in
> early March.  And I'll be staying for an undetermined length of time.  So
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>
> Jill
jofirey - 10 Jan 2008 07:35 GMT
> I'm considering driving back to South Carolina with Persia, probably in
> early March.  And I'll be staying for an undetermined length of time.  So
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> Jill

I also prefer not to sedate my cats to travel.  But get the sedatives just
in case.  You will know if she (or you) reached a point where she really
needs them,

When we had to evacuate with three dogs and two cats into a small hotel room
for a week, one of the cats, a recently rescued feral, just wasn't handling
things well.  Not the ideal conditions to make her into an indoor only cat.
I found a vet close buy and he checked her over and gave me pills for her.
He wouldn't accept payment for the office visit or for the pills.  She was
fine the next few days, and very happy to get back home.

Jo
nik Simpson - 10 Jan 2008 18:35 GMT
> I'm considering driving back to South Carolina with Persia, probably in
> early March.  And I'll be staying for an undetermined length of time.  So
> how do I transport Persia?

've moved my cats from Alabama to Florida to Georgia and back to Aabama
by car over the last 8 years.The absolutely hate being in a carrier and
 make their disapproval very clear and very vocal. Fortunately they are
very well behaved if they aren't in a carrier, so they go in the back of
the car with a litterbox and water. I put a screen in the middle of the
car to keep them from joining me during the trip. The only issues is the
need for a good deal of car if you stop overnight and want to move them
into the hotel room , since they are loose in the back and escape is a
worry.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 10 Jan 2008 19:25 GMT
> I'm considering driving back to South Carolina with Persia, probably in
> early March.  And I'll be staying for an undetermined length of time.  So
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> keep her calm along the long drive?  Is there some herbal something that
> will keep her relaxed or do I have to resort to drugs provided by her vet?

First cross-country trip I made with cats, I had the same
worry, and got tranquilizers from the vet.  However, they
proved unnecessary - after an hour or so of off-and-on
protest, they accepted the inevitable, and simply slept for
most of the ride.  (Cats are pretty pragmatic  critters -
once they realize protesting won't get them anywhere, they
usually stop.)

> There's no way I will fly there with her in the baggage hold.  No way she'll
> sit quietly under the seat of a plane in front of me, either.  LOL  She's a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> whatever other business he had to do.  I have no idea how to accomplish this
> with a cat.  Where do you put a litter box for a cat in a car?

Mine had no problem waiting until we stopped for the night
(actually, I'd head for my motel in late afternoon).  First
thing I'd do after registering was bring in the cats, set up
their food dishes and a disposable litterbox in the
bathroom, shut them in, and go get my own dinner.  I'd let
them have the freedom of my room, once I returned, and of
course they'd sleep on the bed with me.  (Only problem was
occasionally getting them out from under the bed, the next
morning, but since I had them in harnesses with leashes
attached, there was usually something to grab hold of.)

> I will say I have a hatchback car with plenty of room if I lay down the
> seat.  But I don't see letting her roam around a good idea.  Maybe I could
> get a cage like they have at shelters?  The ones with a shelf for sleeping
> with her afghan on top and a place for a small litter box and her food and
> water bowls on the bottom?

She'll probably feel most secure in her own carrier - it's
snugger and easier to wrestle in and out of your car and
hotel rooms.  Also, you can put it on the seat next to you,
and give her vocal reassurances from time to time.  The
first trip, I did get a large carrier, and started out with
litterbox and bowls in it, but they ignored both when
enroute, so the next trip it was just a normal carrier.
(Big enough for both of them, because they seemed to feel
more secure together, but just space enough to stretch a bit
between naps - they got their action at night.  They also
seemed happier with the carrier on the seat next to me,
rather than in the back of my Civic Hatchback, where they'd
traveled the first time.  (I'd usually bring them back a
"treat" of meat or fish from my own dinner, and spend the
evening watching TV so they could lap-sit at will.)

> Suggestions for driving with a cat for 2-3 days are welcome.

My first trip took nearly a week, and they did very well
with the arrangements I describe.  (The trip to Arizona last
year was a piece of cake, since we only had one night in a
hotel.)
AZ Nomad - 10 Jan 2008 21:03 GMT
>> I'm considering driving back to South Carolina with Persia, probably in
>> early March.  And I'll be staying for an undetermined length of time.  So
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> keep her calm along the long drive?  Is there some herbal something that
>> will keep her relaxed or do I have to resort to drugs provided by her vet?

>First cross-country trip I made with cats, I had the same
>worry, and got tranquilizers from the vet.  However, they
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>once they realize protesting won't get them anywhere, they
>usually stop.)

Except siamese cats.  My buddy mongo is quite capable of howling for a ten
hours nonstop.  About the only thing that can shut him up for a little while
is if the humans in the car start howling along with him.  He gets
out-howled.   WOW!!!   WOW!!!   WOW!!!   WOW!!!
Granby - 10 Jan 2008 22:15 GMT
O. T. is my howler.  I have a collapsible mesh toy box, Thomas the train
motif, and he travels in the van in that.  Room enough for a sweater box,
letterbox.  When we stop, my son and his family, we add food and water for
the length of the break.  When I stay in a hotel, this makes a nice
confinement area for him.  OK Lee, tell them how even Willow didn't spend
any hotel time in the confinement area, even got under the bed which was a
job to get her out.

>>> I'm considering driving back to South Carolina with Persia, probably in
>>> early March.  And I'll be staying for an undetermined length of time.
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> is if the humans in the car start howling along with him.  He gets
> out-howled.   WOW!!!   WOW!!!   WOW!!!   WOW!!!
AZ Nomad - 10 Jan 2008 22:41 GMT
>O. T. is my howler.  I have a collapsible mesh toy box, Thomas the train
>motif, and he travels in the van in that.  Room enough for a sweater box,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>any hotel time in the confinement area, even got under the bed which was a
>job to get her out.

When I came out to arizona pulling a trailer, we stopped in raton new mexico
and discovered that none of the motels would permit pets, each had a huge
sign 'ABSOLUTELY NO PETS.  IF WE CATCH YOU WITH A PET, YOU WILL BE HORRIBLY
KILLED.'  or something like that.

We figured we'd sneak mongo into the room after we'd checked in.  How would
they know?  Mongo took to running around the room and howling.  We couldn't
quiet him down and we had to put him in the car for the evening.  Good thing
it was nice May weather.
Stormmee - 11 Jan 2008 12:57 GMT
no need you have indicated properly how you have been assimilated... Lee
> O. T. is my howler.  I have a collapsible mesh toy box, Thomas the train
> motif, and he travels in the van in that.  Room enough for a sweater box,
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> > is if the humans in the car start howling along with him.  He gets
> > out-howled.   WOW!!!   WOW!!!   WOW!!!   WOW!!!
Jeanne Hedge - 11 Jan 2008 01:37 GMT
I handled my kitties exactly this same way, and they did well on long
(12 hour) drives.  

A couple other suggestions - if Persia likes to look out the window,
you might figure out some way she can see outside the car from her
carrier.  When I only had Natasha (RB), I'd put a suitcase on the
passenger seat, and her carrier on top of that. She would just pass
the time (when not sleeping) by looking around at the passing scenery!

I cannot emphasize strongly enough how important it is to have your
kitty in a carrier. It's a safety thing, for both you as the driver
(what if kitty, crawling around the car, gets in the way of you
steering, gets in your line of sight, or gets under foot and you can't
work the pedals correctly?) AND for the kitty (extra protection in
case of an accident).  When I had Natasha's carrier on top of the
small suitcase on the passenger seat, I'd run the seatbelt through the
handle on top, and then buckle it like normal. If your seatbelts
aren't long enough for that trick, surely you can find some other
secure way to tie the carrier down.

Jeanne

>> I'm considering driving back to South Carolina with Persia, probably in
>> early March.  And I'll be staying for an undetermined length of time.  So
[quoted text clipped - 65 lines]
>year was a piece of cake, since we only had one night in a
>hotel.)
Debra - 11 Jan 2008 05:24 GMT
Clean the cat carrier.  It probably smells like fear and the vet's
office.

Take your cat for a ride every day until your trip.  A ride that
doesn't include the vet office.  

Spray Feliway on the carrier.

>Where do you put a litter box for a cat in a car?

Back seat floor board.  

>I will say I have a hatchback car with plenty of room if I lay down the
>seat.  But I don't see letting her roam around a good idea.  Maybe I could
>get a cage like they have at shelters?  The ones with a shelf for sleeping
>with her afghan on top and a place for a small litter box and her food and
>water bowls on the bottom?

Maybe one of those mesh dividers that will go from one side of the car
to the other, and floor to ceiling.  They are made to keep a large dog
in the rear of a vehicle, but should work for cats as well.  That way
the cat has the back seat area and you have the front without having
to worry that you will suddenly be "wearing" a terrified kitty on your
face while trying to drive.    
>Suggestions for driving with a cat for 2-3 days are welcome.
>
>Jill

Carry proof of vaccinations with you.  
Buy a harness and leash and use it during the trip.  
Headphones and good music.  
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jofirey - 11 Jan 2008 07:33 GMT
> Clean the cat carrier.  It probably smells like fear and the vet's
> office.
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> to worry that you will suddenly be "wearing" a terrified kitty on your
> face while trying to drive.

I have a problem with this.  We got a divider in hopes of keeping Kayla in
the back of the car.  So far we have been unable to install it in any manner
that "she" considers a barrier.

So far its just another hundred dollar piece of junk.

Jo
jmcquown - 12 Jan 2008 11:49 GMT
>> Clean the cat carrier.  It probably smells like fear and the vet's
>> office.
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>
> Jo

My car came equipped with a mesh thing, but it's to put groceries in to keep
some stuff from rolling around.  Somehow I doubt Persia is going to be
rolling around :)

Jill
Magic Mood Jeep - 12 Jan 2008 13:26 GMT
>>> Clean the cat carrier.  It probably smells like fear and the vet's
>>> office.
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
> Jill

She might if she's sleeping and you get to a curvy/hilly road :)

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jmcquown - 12 Jan 2008 14:56 GMT
>>>> Clean the cat carrier.  It probably smells like fear and the vet's
>>>> office.
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> She might if she's sleeping and you get to a curvy/hilly road :)

Have you ever been to the way southern tip of South Carolina?  It's flat not
only flat it is very swampy.  No rolling around :)  In fact, where my
parents live they have signs posted "Do not feed the alligators".  Good
idea, since people on vacation there seem to thing alligators are cute.

Oh, and when the tide goes out you can wade out and pick up oysters.  Or net
up shrimp; or go crabbing.  It's not likely Persia will be doing any of
those things.  Crab would more than likely nip at her paws.  I do love blue
crab, though :)

Jill
Magic Mood Jeep - 12 Jan 2008 15:23 GMT
>>>>> Clean the cat carrier.  It probably smells like fear and the vet's
>>>>> office.
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>
> Jill

I was referring to the trip over there - don't you have to cross mountainous
areas?  Great Smokey/Appalachians???  Or am I going the wrong route?

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jmcquown - 12 Jan 2008 20:35 GMT
> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> I was referring to the trip over there - don't you have to cross
> mountainous areas?  Great Smokey/Appalachians???  Or am I going the
> wrong route?

I'll be going south, through Mississippi and Alabama.  Not across any
mountains.  I'm not going over any mountains.

Jill
Debra - 12 Jan 2008 22:20 GMT
>> Maybe one of those mesh dividers that will go from one side of the car
>> to the other, and floor to ceiling.  They are made to keep a large dog
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Jo

OK.  I'll make a note of that.  
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Steve Touchstone - 12 Jan 2008 15:55 GMT
Most of what I'd say has already been said. so don't really have
anything new to add, but am always willing to add my two cents worth
;-)

If at all possible, let Persia get used to the car. Start just letting
her sit in the car with it not running, and work up to short rides to
places she can get out and have fun exploring. I've never tried a long
distance drive, but Sammy used to like rides in the truck. I sometimes
take Sammy out to the park. When we get there, she gets some Fancy
Feast for a picnic treat and does a little exploring. Of course, at
all times she stays on a leash and is either closely supervised or
secured in the carrier. In fact, the leash goes on before we leave
home and doesn't come off until we're back.

Unfortunately, too many trips to TED when she was being diagnosed for
her heart murmur now means she's fearful for the first half hour, so
we don't take as many rides as we used to.

Sammy likes being able to look out the window (though passing 18
wheelers worry her) I have one of those hard carriers with a door on
top as well as the front door. So I'd strap the carrier in, and always
had a leash on her so she had to stay in the carrier, though she could
stand and look out the window.

Won't work for Persia, but Little Bit isn't nearly as fearful if Sammy
rides along. So the suggestion that a companion cat ride along works
for some. Little Bit is also calmed down if the carrier is placed in
the passenger seat facing me, especially if I place my hand so she can
reach out and touch me. This isn't a good idea for all cats. What IS
good for ALL cats? I tried it with Princess when I took her to TED and
all she wanted to show me was what it felt like when she had her blood
taken.

None of my cats seem to like country and western, and since that's the
only thing my radio seems to play I don't play music when they're in
the truck. They're all a bit challenged musically wise - they don't
like C&W but do like me so sing dumb little songs to them ;-) They all
seem to like it when I talk to them.

Sedative from TED might be useful, but only as a last resort.
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