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Christina Websell - 30 Dec 2007 16:22 GMT
Like a lot of other folks who post to newsgroups I use a separate web-based
email address just for that.  It attracts lots of spam (up to 80 messages
per day) so I have to clear it out every couple of days.
Often I just go to it and delete all the messages en-masse.

Sometimes I have missed messages from genuine rpca-ers replying privately
(sorry if I have) so now and again I quickly scan the headers. and subjects.

So I was doing this and I noticed the subject line was "Re: re: Smudge has
poopy pants" plus another I replied to in the same thread.
It was from (claims to be) a moderator on something like a sexual smacking
group saying I had tried to post these 2 messages to their group and it was
rejected because I hadn't used the word "smacking" in the subject line.
My computer is squeaky clean.  My virus program runs every day and I run all
the anti-everything else-you-can-think-of jobbies every couple of days.
It's weird and I don't like it.

Tweed
Victor Martinez - 30 Dec 2007 16:52 GMT
> It's weird and I don't like it.

People steal legitimate email addresses to spam with all the time. I
sometimes get rejection notices for my work email address (which I only
use for work, nothing personal at all) after someone tried to send spam
with it.
It's part of the way the internet works.

Cheers.

Victor

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 30 Dec 2007 18:09 GMT
>> It's weird and I don't like it.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> with it.
> It's part of the way the internet works.

Yeah, I just got one of those "rejections" of addresses I
never heard of (and certainly never sent messages to).
Since I have Earthlink's Spamcatcher set to reject anyone
not in my address book, it all ends up in my "Suspect
E-mail" file, which stays in Earthlink, and never gets
downloaded to my computer unless it's something I decide I
want.
Steve Touchstone - 31 Dec 2007 04:27 GMT
>> It's weird and I don't like it.
>
>People steal legitimate email addresses to spam with all the time. I
>sometimes get rejection notices for my work email address (which I only
>use for work, nothing personal at all) after someone tried to send spam
>with it.

Too true. I've received spam from myself ;-)
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Adrian - 31 Dec 2007 10:52 GMT
>>> It's weird and I don't like it.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Too true. I've received spam from myself ;-)

I thought most people did, one of the filters I have in mailwasher is my own
address as the return address.
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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 31 Dec 2007 05:48 GMT
Steve Touchstone <stouchst@junksirinet.net> wrote:

> Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> wrote:

>> People steal legitimate email addresses to spam with all the time. I
>> sometimes get rejection notices for my work email address (which I only
>> use for work, nothing personal at all) after someone tried to send spam
>> with it.

> Too true. I've received spam from myself ;-)

I think I remember you posting about this once before. That must have
been surreal...

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hopitus - 30 Dec 2007 18:14 GMT
On Dec 30, 9:22 am, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Like a lot of other folks who post to newsgroups I use a separate web-based
> email address just for that.  It attracts lots of spam (up to 80 messages
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Tweed

These are not hoomins stealing email addys...run by hoomins, yes, but
to my
extremely limited knowledge they are automated contrivances called
"bots" -
short for "robots" I suppose. They are directed to scan (probably far
faster
than hoomins could scan) the Net to "harvest" email addys, which are
then
sold by the gazillions to for-profit entities, who then spam
you..That's why
you've usually have never heard of the sender of your spam -
exception:
the Nigerian dude who wants to give you part of his bankroll; we all
know
him by now.
The above is why I have remained Hopitus (beloved Manx to Bridge
10/89)
all these years. Hopitus has even been offered credit cards, LOL.
Yowie - 30 Dec 2007 21:41 GMT
> On Dec 30, 9:22 am, "Christina Websell"
> <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> know
> him by now.

I was surprised that I got an offer from an *English* gentleman - and in
perfect English English too. At least the Nigerians make the letter
interesting to read with their fractured English.

> The above is why I have remained Hopitus (beloved Manx to Bridge
> 10/89)
> all these years. Hopitus has even been offered credit cards, LOL.

And thats why I have a spamblocker in my posting address. It doesn't elimate
spam, but it slows it down. I also use that address to sign up for web
services that I want to use but am sure sell their subscription lists. I get
about 20 spam a day, I *always* eyball it to see if there's anything
genuine, and if there's something interesting but don't otherwise recognise,
I open in notepad rather than in an e-mail prgram just in case there's a
nasty lurking (even though I have virus protestion).

Spam is just a fact of internet life, as far as I can see. You do what
youcan to minimise it, but if youwant ot use the internet, you get spam.

Yowie
Lesley - 30 Dec 2007 21:47 GMT
> I was surprised that I got an offer from an *English* gentleman - and in
> perfect English English too. At least the Nigerians make the letter
> interesting to read with their fractured English.

Dave sulked when I got one from Nigeria- he's never had one!

Lesley

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ScratchMonkey - 02 Jan 2008 14:04 GMT
> And thats why I have a spamblocker in my posting address. It doesn't
> elimate spam, but it slows it down. I also use that address to sign up
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> e-mail prgram just in case there's a nasty lurking (even though I have
> virus protestion).

Good policies.

One additional step I do is to use a spam trap address in my "From" and my
real address in the "Reply-to". Newsgroup spambots can read the From line
just be asking the server for headers, but to get the Reply-to line, they
have to download all the messages, which is more expensive (in terms of
time spent).

If your mail server uses sendmail (many do), you can also use a "plussed"
address tagged with where you're using it, so you can tell where a spammer
got your address.

http://css.its.psu.edu/news/emailplus.html

If you don't know if you can use a plussed address, just send yourself a
test email with one. Like myrealemail+thisisatest@example.com.
Adrian - 02 Jan 2008 16:49 GMT
>> And thats why I have a spamblocker in my posting address. It doesn't
>> elimate spam, but it slows it down. I also use that address to sign
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> yourself a test email with one. Like
> myrealemail+thisisatest@example.com.

I do the same, so far no spam has been sent to my reply-to address and
surprisingly little gets sent to my from address.
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Yowie - 03 Jan 2008 10:27 GMT
>> And thats why I have a spamblocker in my posting address. It doesn't
>> elimate spam, but it slows it down. I also use that address to sign up
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> If you don't know if you can use a plussed address, just send yourself a
> test email with one. Like myrealemail+thisisatest@example.com.

Doesn't work for Yahoo or either of my ISPs, but is does work for my gmail.

Which is the one that currently *doens't* get spam at all. Hmmmm...

Yowie
ScratchMonkey - 03 Jan 2008 11:58 GMT
> Doesn't work for Yahoo or either of my ISPs, but is does work for my
> gmail.
>
> Which is the one that currently *doens't* get spam at all. Hmmmm...

I bought cheap webhosting for $5/month, and I suspect they use sendmail
just because of the OS they run on. (I don't know because I run my own mail
server.) If you need a cheap website, ask the hosting provider if they use
sendmail for client email, and you're good to go. Plus, you get your own
custom domain name.

Alas, yowie is taken for .com, .net, and .org, but it's available in .name,
so you could have yowie+rpca@yowie.name. (I just used whois at nsi.com. I
was surprised that the price of .name registrations was so cheap at a
"brand name" site like nsi.)
Monique Y. Mudama - 30 Dec 2007 19:37 GMT
> So I was doing this and I noticed the subject line was "Re: re:
> Smudge has poopy pants" plus another I replied to in the same
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> else-you-can-think-of jobbies every couple of days.  It's weird and
> I don't like it.

I got that, too.  It's just another use to which email harvesting can
be put.  It would be nice if email harvesting could be prosecuted like
other forms of identity theft.

At least it was somewhat entertaining ...

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Granby - 30 Dec 2007 22:06 GMT
I have gotten these too saying I posted to some group I didn't and Wouldn't.
If I get another, and I am sure I will, am going to find out where to send
these type of things.  I know there is someone out there watching, someone
somewhere is watching everything.

>> So I was doing this and I noticed the subject line was "Re: re:
>> Smudge has poopy pants" plus another I replied to in the same
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> At least it was somewhat entertaining ...
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 30 Dec 2007 21:25 GMT
> It was from (claims to be) a moderator on something like a sexual smacking
> group saying I had tried to post these 2 messages to their group and it was
> rejected because I hadn't used the word "smacking" in the subject line.

LOL!!! Good one.

They're hoping you'll reply, to explain that you never sent them anything
and you don't belong to any "smacking" group. In that way, you verify that
your address is valid, and their work is done.

Joyce
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