Hello catfolks,
we hope you and your furry friends had a bright and thougtful
christmas and you can look forward to the oncoming change of the year
with a serene mind.
After our Blacky crossed the bridge in October my wife and I agreed to
get a new mate for our lonely Merlin. We are home until 3rd January
and therefore have the time to care for a "newcomer".
Since Friday, December 21st tomcat "Marko" lives at our home. We got
him from the shelter of "Tiere in Not Chemnitz e.V.". he is about 7
month old, white with red markings and a red tabby tail.
He was born wild and - apart from his stay at the shelter - have had
not much human contact so far. With his roommates at the shelter he
got along pretty well.
At our home the situation is a bit strange at the moment. During the
trip home he was absolutely quiet. I had the impression, he slept at
least part of it. After we arrived he quickly found a hiding place in
the anteroom of our staircase - he is now lodging under our
ventilation system. This is his domain - a nice cat cavern. The moment
we come near we receive a good spit, sometimes more formally,
sometimes more in earnest with flattened ears and bared teeth. I'll
try to get some pictures - if he is willing to leave his cover.
In spite of that he uses his toilets in a well-behaved manner and
accepts his food without problems - as long as we are not near. He has
some toys and uses them - as long as we are not near. If he believes
himself unwatched, he patrols trough the house.
House cat Merlin has already discovered, that there is "something" in
the house. So far we had three "alien" contacts. The first time Merlin
chased Marko through the corridor for a short time (Merlin's horrent
tail - at about 200% - was remarkable!). Next meeting was on the
stairs with not much action from both sides. At the third meeting
Merlin stood right in front of Markos "home", both heads about 4
inches apart. They stared at each other for several seconds, but then
Merlin bashed at Marko. Normally Merlin is mostly ignoring the
presence of Marko.
The shelter team advised us, to approach Marko more actively. Their
opinion is, that he will not move toward us by himself. We should
"bait" him with his food. Maybe someone from you can give us some more
tips how to approach "feral" Marko best.
Kind regards
Michael

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Square Dance is friendship put to music
Andrea and Michael with tomcat-cats Merlin und Marko
Bettina - 28 Dec 2007 14:03 GMT
> Hello catfolks,
>
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> Square Dance is friendship put to music
> Andrea and Michael with tomcat-cats Merlin und Marko
Hi Micha,
so good of you to take Marko in.
It might need a long time before he will allow you to touch him.
My first step always is to throw 3 or 4 little pieces of ground meat
(Hackfleisch)
into the hiding space and then leave. Just ignoring the presence of
the new cat.
This gives her the feeling of not being pressed to do something.
If he likes the meatballs (hopefully), I offer them two or three times
a day.
So he learns where the goodies come from.
If you want to, I could email Andrea and you my phone number to have a
little chat about things.
Good luck, I am sure everything will workout fine.
Bettina
Micha - 31 Dec 2007 11:47 GMT
Hello Bettina,
>> Hello catfolks,
[snip]
>> Since Friday, December 21st tomcat "Marko" lives at our home. We got
>> him from the shelter of "Tiere in Not Chemnitz e.V.". he is about 7
>> month old, white with red markings and a red tabby tail.
[snip]
>> The shelter team advised us, to approach Marko more actively. Their
>> opinion is, that he will not move toward us by himself. We should
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>
> so good of you to take Marko in.
it is always amusing when two Germans chat in an english speaking
newsgroup ;;--))
> It might need a long time before he will allow you to touch him.
> My first step always is to throw 3 or 4 little pieces of ground meat
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> a day.
> So he learns where the goodies come from.
There is some progress, so I'll post a general update for everyone.
> If you want to, I could email Andrea and you my phone number to have a
> little chat about things.
Yes, it would be nice to have a little chat about cats (and more?).
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> Good luck, I am sure everything will workout fine.
>
> Bettina
Many greetings
Michael

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Ginger-lyn - 28 Dec 2007 18:31 GMT
> Hello catfolks,
>
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> Kind regards
> Michael
Awwww -- I'm so glad to hear you have a new member :-)
I trapped and rescued a feral cat several years back. With several cats
here, and with the cat being rather scarily noisy about his displeasure,
I kept him in a separate room in a large (dog-sized) cage while I worked
with him. So most of my ideas won't help you, since I did it so
differently.
However, the idea is to build trust, and the food-baiting is a great way
to do that. With Brando (my former feral), I put a little canned food
on my finger, and fed him through the cage (and still have all my
fingers, thank you -- lol). I don't know if you can get that close, but
one thing you might be able to do is to sit at whatever distance from
the dish he will tolerate while he eats. And each day or couple of
days, move the dish a little closer to you. Sit still, don't stare at
him, and don't move. In other words, pretend you are part of the
furniture. You may eventually get him close enough to you that you can
gently put a hand near him, then pet him, as he eats, or feed him from
your hand.
Remember that Marko is probably just scared, not angry. Think about
fear, and about how you might be able to make him feel more secure and
less afraid.
My Brando went from a hissing, spitting, growling feral to a huge,
lovable lap-cat, and I would not trade him for the world.
Best of luck to you on your new addition!
Ginger-lyn

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Victor Martinez - 28 Dec 2007 19:12 GMT
> ventilation system. This is his domain - a nice cat cavern. The moment
> we come near we receive a good spit, sometimes more formally,
> sometimes more in earnest with flattened ears and bared teeth. I'll
Awwww... I love a hissing kitten. :)
> The shelter team advised us, to approach Marko more actively. Their
> opinion is, that he will not move toward us by himself. We should
> "bait" him with his food. Maybe someone from you can give us some more
> tips how to approach "feral" Marko best.
I don't have any tips, except to be patient and give both cats lots of
attention.
Good luck! Keep us posted.

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Kreisleriana - 29 Dec 2007 23:10 GMT
>> ventilation system. This is his domain - a nice cat cavern. The moment
>> we come near we receive a good spit, sometimes more formally,
>> sometimes more in earnest with flattened ears and bared teeth. I'll
>
> Awwww... I love a hissing kitten. :)
Especially a poofy, hissy kitten with a bottlebrush tail. ;)
Steve Touchstone - 29 Dec 2007 05:03 GMT
I don't have a lot of experience taming ferals, but was successful
with one, Rocky. It sounds like you should have much less trouble than
I did. For one thing, Rocky was a feral approximately 7 years old
while Marko is 7 months. Another positive in favor is that you've
already have him confined in a house, while I was dealing with a cat
who was outside and may not show up to eat for two or three days.
As a couple others have already suggested, food was the key. I'd put
out food, and sit on the patio, several yards away, and ignore Rocky.
At first he'd gobble up the food and be gone as fast as he could
manage. After he started taking his time eating, I started moving the
bowl closer to where I was sitting on the patio, and he followed
along. It took a great deal of patience, and several months, before he
was eating within a few feet of where I sat. Even then he'd run as
soon as it looked like I was going to get up. He pretty much took up
residence on my patio, and eventually became a cat who loved taking
naps in my lap.
Sending purrs that you are successful in your attempt to tame Marko
and make him a part of your family. Anyone who has been successful can
tell you how special it makes you feel as you watch the progress from
wild feral cat to a tame lap fungus

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Marina - 29 Dec 2007 06:59 GMT
> The shelter team advised us, to approach Marko more actively. Their
> opinion is, that he will not move toward us by himself. We should
> "bait" him with his food. Maybe someone from you can give us some more
> tips how to approach "feral" Marko best.
First of all, congratulations to your new master! I've never met a feral
cat, so I don't have any experience in the matter, but instinctively, I
would leave Marko in peace and let him come to you. I may be completely
wrong, of course. Purrs for Marko to calm down soon and settle into your
household - and for Merlin to accept his new housemate.

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Bettina - 29 Dec 2007 15:31 GMT
> Hello catfolks,
>
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> Square Dance is friendship put to music
> Andrea and Michael with tomcat-cats Merlin und Marko
I had major results with a christmas garland, a golden chain composed
of a lot of tiny little balls.
As I am on one end I can make the other end moving. All four kittens
love to chase that thing.
They even entered my sofa to get the end of that chain. Even the older
cats are still impressed and play with it.
In a few days when he has learned that you will not do any harm to him
maybe you could try to get his interest with a chain like that or even
a long thread witha fake mouse on the end.
7 month is still playing age.
Have fun and success
Bettina
Adrian - 29 Dec 2007 17:02 GMT
>> Hello catfolks,
>>
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> Have fun and success
> Bettina
I don't know when the playing age ends, Snoopy is nearly 18 and she still
plays, I love the look on her face when she chases the red dot greebling.

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Bettina - 29 Dec 2007 18:00 GMT
> >> Hello catfolks,
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You are so right. Yesterday evening Julius, who is a very respectable
and grumpy old guy lost control and started playing with that chain.
It was so funny to see how first he seemed to be totally uninterested
but then a flicker came into his eyes and then he moved one paw. Very
majestic.
And then he lost it and played like a little one.<g>
polonca12000 - 04 Jan 2008 22:23 GMT
> Hello catfolks,
>
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> him from the shelter of "Tiere in Not Chemnitz e.V.". he is about 7
> month old, white with red markings and a red tabby tail.
<snip>
> The shelter team advised us, to approach Marko more actively. Their
> opinion is, that he will not move toward us by himself. We should
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Kind regards
> Michael
No ideas unfortunately, but lots of hopes that Marko becomes
approachable really soon,
Polonca and Soncek