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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / January 2008Four Dec 26 2007
Four is making progress but is not without challenges. He has finally gone into the crate and is even napping in it, that is a biggie! While he is filling out his hips are bony and I can still feel his ribs, but certainly not like when he first arrived here, so I have added an evening feeding of kibble softened with some liquid which I make from cat food mixed with water. So he is getting four feedings a day. He is becoming more affectionate as the days go by and something that is so endearing is that he is very forgiving. There has been a lot of turmoil here in the house over the last three days, lots of very loud, strange noises, different smells, moving him in and out of the porch and the laundry room, changes in the Kitty Klubhouse as it was stripped and Nature's Miracle put around it and Flea Buster brushed into it. Yet he continutes to rub against me and sit in front of me to chat. And the biggest, most wonderful news of all; it appears that the wound is healing. I have tried since the day Four arrived to get pictures of the situation but he turns that side away when I approach, I'm sure it is a protection manoever. There are parts of the opening that appear to be drying; perhaps a scab is forming???? Today when I was putting down his lunch and before he turned away I notice, and almost couldn't believe until I manoevered myself around, that the lower portion of the wound was healing, there was new skin and fur stubble!! Tears. Four's litter box habits sporadic to non-existent. Occasionally he will use the litter box to poop in but not ever to pee in. He peed in the Kitty Klubhouse. That is why it was stripped, cleaned, the rugs replaced and Nature's Miracle applied. I have added dirt to the litter box to where it is now 50/50 litter/dirt. Suggestions? While I can pet him, now, all over the top and sides of his body I still can not allow my fingers to touch his belly area without him dropping into a crouch and becoming defensive and hissing. Of course it is great progress from not being able to touch him at all! What I am loking for here is being able to pick him up and put him in the crate to take him to the clinic. Perhaps I need more patience and time. I am going to the grocery store now to buy food for him, Annie is going with me in a way. It is a good thing I have a van, that cat eats a lot of food!  SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > Four is making progress but is not without challenges. He has finally gone > into the crate and is even napping in it, that is a biggie! While he is [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > St. Cloud, Florida USA That's fantastic news, Charleen!!! Sounds like things are progressing well. Actually, very well. The idea of some dirt in the litter box sounds reasonable to me. We'll continue purrs for y'all but it sounds like everything is going great. You're obviously doing a great job with Four. --Kim Thank you. It is the following day as I write this and believe it or not the wound looks even better! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA On Dec 26, 1:42 pm, "Charleen Welton" <ilikec...@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Four is making progress but is not without challenges. He has finally gone > into the crate and is even napping in it, that is a biggie! While he is [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > St. Cloud, Florida USA That's fantastic news, Charleen!!! Sounds like things are progressing well. Actually, very well. The idea of some dirt in the litter box sounds reasonable to me. We'll continue purrs for y'all but it sounds like everything is going great. You're obviously doing a great job with Four. --Kim > While he is > filling out his hips are bony and I can still feel his ribs, but certainly > not like when he first arrived here, so I have added an evening feeding of > kibble softened with some liquid which I make from cat food mixed with > water. So he is getting four feedings a day. This seems appropriate. :) > He is becoming more > affectionate as the days go by and something that is so endearing is that he [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Flea Buster brushed into it. Yet he continutes to rub against me and sit in > front of me to chat. He really sounds like a *nice* cat. Once he is healed, and perhaps a bit more socialized (I hope!), he will be a wonderful kitty. I get the sense that he would love to be a cuddly kitty, but is still too wary. I hope that will change over time. > And the biggest, most wonderful news of all; it > appears that the wound is healing. That's pretty amazing, considering that you haven't even started the medication. > Four's litter box habits sporadic to non-existent. Occasionally he will use > the litter box to poop in but not ever to pee in. He peed in the Kitty > Klubhouse. That is why it was stripped, cleaned, the rugs replaced and > Nature's Miracle applied. I have added dirt to the litter box to where it > is now 50/50 litter/dirt. Suggestions? I don't have any suggestions - just purrs that he will figure out what the litterbox is for and *remember* to use it. Cats who have always gone outside to pee will often not even think of the litterbox when they need to go. Once he is healed and is allowed in the house (provided Aggie approves), will you let him in and out, or do you plan to keep him in all the time? If you plan to let him in and out, then the litterbox problem is only temporary, and hopefully he won't wreck your porch! > What I am loking for here is being > able to pick him up and put him in the crate to take him to the clinic. > Perhaps I need more patience and time. Since he has already gone to sleep in the crate, you might not even have to do that. Didn't you rig up a string to pull from inside the house, to spring the trap? Or did you dismantle that after you realized it was going to take longer than you initially thought? Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > > > While he is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > This seems appropriate. :) He thinks so too, Joyce! > > He is becoming more > > affectionate as the days go by and something that is so endearing is [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > that > will change over time. I sense that also and know, just know from his bearing and condition, that he was someone's pet before his horrible injury. The great mystery is why did he not return to his home and family. He has demonstrated that he wants to be a home kitty. > > And the biggest, most wonderful news of all; it > > appears that the wound is healing. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > outside to pee will often not even think of the litterbox when they need > to go. I'm going to get a larger litter box today. DH David suggested one the size of Texas! > Once he is healed and is allowed in the house (provided Aggie approves), > will you let him in and out, or do you plan to keep him in all the time? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > spring the trap? Or did you dismantle that after you realized it was going > to take longer than you initially thought? We didn't rig up string as there is no way to get the crate close enough to a window for it to work. It was a good idea though and we did try. > Joyce I am writing this whilst being watched by some friends who I was telling about Four so let's see Purrs for Four from Chloe, Tigger and Bandit (owners of Hugh and Mark), Benj and Molly (owners of Jim) , Smiroff and Oscar (owners of Jools mum and also Jools), Jerry, Lee and Lewis (owners of Grim) and Fuzzbutt (owner of Matt B), And best wishes from the following nonslaves Bill, Jon, Tel (In loving memory of Boris the mad hound of Limehouse), Matt N (who wants to ask if Four will accept hisses from his python Set) and Alan ( doggie drools from Sam) and Cy We're all raising our respective cans and glasses to say Cheers to Four and Charleen! Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs (who add their purrs) > Purrs for Four from Chloe, Tigger and Bandit (owners of Hugh and > Mark), Benj and Molly (owners of Jim) , Smiroff and Oscar (owners of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > if Four will accept hisses from his python Set) and Alan ( doggie > drools from Sam) and Cy Well they said "What a lovely cat- what can we do?" so I got the figurative hat out (I don;t have a hat at the moment ) none of us are rich especially not this time of year but we held a little fundraiser for Four's vet bills and some small donation has gone via Victor's Pay Pal it's not a lot but it's from all of us They're all great people and now I have to feed the lot of them..oh well Dave';s just put some Rush on... Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs Thank you Lesley, Chloe, Tigger, Bandit, Hugh, Mark, Benji, Molly, Jim Smiroff, Oscar, Jools mum, Jools, Jerry, Lee, Lewis Grim, Fuzzbutt, Matt B., Bill, Jon, Tel, and the memory of Boris, Alan, Sam, Cy, Matt N and a Thank You hiss to you too Set. That was very nice of (as we say in the South and spell Northern) you'all. We may be making use of the vet credit in the foreseeable future! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > > Purrs for Four from Chloe, Tigger and Bandit (owners of Hugh and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > if Four will accept hisses from his python Set) and Alan ( doggie > drools from Sam) and Cy Well they said "What a lovely cat- what can we do?" so I got the figurative hat out (I don;t have a hat at the moment ) none of us are rich especially not this time of year but we held a little fundraiser for Four's vet bills and some small donation has gone via Victor's Pay Pal it's not a lot but it's from all of us They're all great people and now I have to feed the lot of them..oh well Dave';s just put some Rush on... Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > Thank you Lesley, Chloe, Tigger, Bandit, Hugh, Mark, Benji, Molly, Jim > Smiroff, Oscar, Jools mum, Jools, Jerry, Lee, Lewis Grim, Fuzzbutt, Matt B., [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > foreseeable future! > -- I'll pass your thanks on Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > Four's litter box habits sporadic to non-existent. Occasionally he > will use the litter box to poop in but not ever to pee in. He peed in > the Kitty Klubhouse. That is why it was stripped, cleaned, the rugs > replaced and Nature's Miracle applied. I have added dirt to the > litter box to where it is now 50/50 litter/dirt. Suggestions? I wonder what would happen if you setup a second litter box and transfer some of his err.. "odor" to the litter box before cleaning what he leaves. Will try that today. He is strange in his litter box habits in that he doesn't use the litter box to pee in. Don't know where he is doing that now. Hope it is not in the Kitty Klubhouse again! He poops everywhere! Sometimes in the litter box, sometimes in the KK, often on the floor. Will use the new box as a second box as you suggested, hopefully that will help. Thanks. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Four's litter box habits sporadic to non-existent. Occasionally he >> will use the litter box to poop in but not ever to pee in. He peed in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I wonder what would happen if you setup a second litter box and transfer > some of his err.. "odor" to the litter box before cleaning what he leaves. > Four is making progress but is not without challenges. He has finally > gone into the crate and is even napping in it, that is a biggie! While he [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > with me in a way. It is a good thing I have a van, that cat eats a lot of > food! Wonderful progress!!! Maybe he doesn't want to pee & poo in the same place? Adding a second litterbox would help in that case. Signature-- The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)© email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep Going to do that today, Nancy. He takes as much time as taking care of a baby would!! Shopping for things, special meals, vet consults, quality time together, scooping "stuff" from all over the porch, and so on. But that's alright, he's worth it. Many of you have done the same thing and others will do it in the future. One of us has started a rescue now, Bringing the Kitty In from the Cold. Many of us do it all the time by feeding little ones that come to their house either because the cats are from around the area or they are passing through, either way you have made a difference. I think of the stories we hear of a cat that was lost when the moving van left the sold family home in New York and turned up at the new family home in Georgia. Could that cat have made it without cat loving people-angels who feed "strays"? You have to wonder. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Four is making progress but is not without challenges. He has finally >> gone into the crate and is even napping in it, that is a biggie! While [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Maybe he doesn't want to pee & poo in the same place? Adding a second > litterbox would help in that case. > Four is making progress but is not without challenges. He has > finally gone into the crate and is even napping in it, that is a [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > going with me in a way. It is a good thing I have a van, that cat > eats a lot of food! I think you've made graet progress in a short time, continuing purrs for Four to make a full recovery, and learn to use the litter box. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Thank you Adrian. I hope those purrs work real soon! This is getting real old! Hopfully the bigger box, also being a second box will help. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Four is making progress but is not without challenges. He has >> finally gone into the crate and is even napping in it, that is a [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > I think you've made graet progress in a short time, continuing purrs for > Four to make a full recovery, and learn to use the litter box. > Four is making progress but is not without challenges. He has finally gone > into the crate and is even napping in it, that is a biggie! While he is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > St. Cloud, Florida USA Great news about the wound and the trust. I suppose this suggestion will be too late if you have already gone shopping for more food, but here it is anyway. Have you thought of feeding him kitten food? It probably would help him put on weight and might give him additional nourishment for healing the wound. I know that you have already addressed this issue, but you might think about asking Dr. M if he would prescribe a dose of Revolution. It has some leeway in the weight range for the dosage, so even if you can't weigh Four right now, you can figure that if he is a large boned cat, he would be in the middle range for the dosage. I say this because we had a big cat who was 22 lbs in his prime. When he eventually got old and reached the point where we had to send him to the Rainbow Ridge, he was skin and bones and still weighed 12 lbs. I'm bringing this up (the Revolution) because it is applied externally, and it will rid him of several kinds of parasites that may be competing with his body for the nutrients in his food. Also, it will help rid his environment of those parasites that he may shed, and that would be better for the health of your other cats. Just a couple of thoughts. Annie That is a great idea about kitten food. Will see what I can do about it. My gracious he can pack away food. Reminds me of my two teenage nephews! We use Revolution for our cats and it is a great product. I don't think he is ready yet for me to apply the liquid to his skin under the fur. He doesn't come that close to me yet. He rubs around me when I am bringing him his food. When I am sitting on the porch he will sit a short distance away, and the distance is getting shorter as time goes by. I can pet him all over except his belly and I don't attempt to go near his injured neck area. This is done when he is finished eating and still near his food dishes. His fur is now nice and soft, working toward your suggestion I will give him lots of pets on his neck and pet his fur backwards to judge his reaction to that. I can dribble a few drops of water on the "backward" fur area and see what happens. If that works out then he can get the Revolution which is a wonderful idea. This may take some time but it is a worthy goal. Thank you for the suggestion. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA On Dec 26, 1:42 pm, "Charleen Welton" <ilikec...@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Four is making progress but is not without challenges. He has finally gone > into the crate and is even napping in it, that is a biggie! While he is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > St. Cloud, Florida USA Great news about the wound and the trust. I suppose this suggestion will be too late if you have already gone shopping for more food, but here it is anyway. Have you thought of feeding him kitten food? It probably would help him put on weight and might give him additional nourishment for healing the wound. I know that you have already addressed this issue, but you might think about asking Dr. M if he would prescribe a dose of Revolution. It has some leeway in the weight range for the dosage, so even if you can't weigh Four right now, you can figure that if he is a large boned cat, he would be in the middle range for the dosage. I say this because we had a big cat who was 22 lbs in his prime. When he eventually got old and reached the point where we had to send him to the Rainbow Ridge, he was skin and bones and still weighed 12 lbs. I'm bringing this up (the Revolution) because it is applied externally, and it will rid him of several kinds of parasites that may be competing with his body for the nutrients in his food. Also, it will help rid his environment of those parasites that he may shed, and that would be better for the health of your other cats. Just a couple of thoughts. Annie > Four is making progress but is not without challenges. He has finally > gone into the crate and is even napping in it, that is a biggie! While [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > with me in a way. It is a good thing I have a van, that cat eats a lot > of food! What marvelous news!!!!! Yep, and it gets better every day. There are still challenges but more successes than setbacks. I wish I could get more pictures of him. He is comical without meaning to be so. He wouldn't go in the crate. DH David moved the crate closer to him. It is covered with a fluffy blue towel. The first day the crate was close Four climbed right in and snoozed for hours! The next day he sprawled out on the top of the crate and slept. He had created a Feline Bunk Bed set. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Four is making progress but is not without challenges. He has finally >> gone into the crate and is even napping in it, that is a biggie! While [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > What marvelous news!!!!! . He had > created a Feline Bunk Bed set. Aww you just made me remember Isis (RB) and her condo It was one of those long flat cardboard boxes, the type where you tear the lid off and as usual it had only come half off when I put it on top of the fridge out of the way. Well Isis obviously saw potential that we didn't (maybe the location appealed to her, a nice high place where she could get some Sun) and she carefully worked at the lid until it was to her liking. In the end, she could lie on the top half (The Sun lounge) or lie in the open section (The patio) or go under the bit of the lid that she'd ;left in place (The master bedroom)- she slept in or on there for many years Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs That sound really neat. Custom made cat furniture. It's nice that she was able to enjoy it for as long as she did. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA On Dec 27, 8:03 am, "Charleen Welton" <ilikec...@cfl.rr.com> wrote: . He had > created a Feline Bunk Bed set. Aww you just made me remember Isis (RB) and her condo It was one of those long flat cardboard boxes, the type where you tear the lid off and as usual it had only come half off when I put it on top of the fridge out of the way. Well Isis obviously saw potential that we didn't (maybe the location appealed to her, a nice high place where she could get some Sun) and she carefully worked at the lid until it was to her liking. In the end, she could lie on the top half (The Sun lounge) or lie in the open section (The patio) or go under the bit of the lid that she'd ;left in place (The master bedroom)- she slept in or on there for many years Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > That sound really neat. Custom made cat furniture. It's nice that she was > able to enjoy it for as long as she did. > -- I brought my first feline (Speedy Joe) a cat bed, which he slept in once and then peed in it and thereafter even after I carefully washed it completely ignored it Isis loved her kitty condo (made by her own sweet claws) as detailed above. Her sister Fugazi (Both RB) for many years refused to let us get rid of the box our sandwich maker came in even through we got it she was 4 months old and grew to the point where most of her spilled over the sides in fact I think the sandwich maker was thrown out long before that box! Sarsi has a box on the sofa that came with a faulty network hub, she spent an age getting the lid bent so there's a sunken bit which is just her shape Right now, Sarsi has decided to curl up under the living room radiator and Dunzi is dead to the World on top of a box of envelopes in the bedroom- last night she fell asleep on top of the living room door- you work that one out she's a small cat (Someone recently said "She's grown since I saw her last week"- well given she is four and a half I don't think so but she is tiny and has never quite lost her kitten face) but she was sound asleep on maybe 3-4 inches of wood with a six foot drop if she had fallen off. Dave regularly has said of all of our owners "How can she/he be comfortable there?" I just say "she's a cat...she ain't gonna sleep anywhere what ain't comfortable" Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs Wonderful word pictures! Thank you Lesley. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA On Dec 27, 2:03 pm, "Charleen Welton" <ilikec...@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > That sound really neat. Custom made cat furniture. It's nice that she was > able to enjoy it for as long as she did. > -- I brought my first feline (Speedy Joe) a cat bed, which he slept in once and then peed in it and thereafter even after I carefully washed it completely ignored it Isis loved her kitty condo (made by her own sweet claws) as detailed above. Her sister Fugazi (Both RB) for many years refused to let us get rid of the box our sandwich maker came in even through we got it she was 4 months old and grew to the point where most of her spilled over the sides in fact I think the sandwich maker was thrown out long before that box! Sarsi has a box on the sofa that came with a faulty network hub, she spent an age getting the lid bent so there's a sunken bit which is just her shape Right now, Sarsi has decided to curl up under the living room radiator and Dunzi is dead to the World on top of a box of envelopes in the bedroom- last night she fell asleep on top of the living room door- you work that one out she's a small cat (Someone recently said "She's grown since I saw her last week"- well given she is four and a half I don't think so but she is tiny and has never quite lost her kitten face) but she was sound asleep on maybe 3-4 inches of wood with a six foot drop if she had fallen off. Dave regularly has said of all of our owners "How can she/he be comfortable there?" I just say "she's a cat...she ain't gonna sleep anywhere what ain't comfortable" Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > Four is making progress but is not without challenges. He has finally gone Sounds like excellent progress to me. Glad to hear that the wound is starting to scab over and purrs that it continues so well. Sam, supervised by Mistletoe Thank you, Sam. We are still needing purrs. One of the things that happened that I was not even aware of until we stripped the Kitty Klubhouse because of the strong urine problem is that the horrible odor associated with Four's terrible wound has disappeared. Progess on so many fronts for him. Wow, what regular meals and a secure place to rest and caring people can do in an animals life. Thankfully we all are doing that for this animal. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Four is making progress but is not without challenges. He has finally >> gone [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Sam, supervised by Mistletoe > Four is making progress but is not without challenges. Congratulations on wonderful progress! > Four's litter box habits sporadic to non-existent. Occasionally he will use > the litter box to poop in but not ever to pee in. He peed in the Kitty > Klubhouse. That is why it was stripped, cleaned, the rugs replaced and > Nature's Miracle applied. I have added dirt to the litter box to where it > is now 50/50 litter/dirt. Suggestions? Goodness, I don't have experience with this sort of thing but I wonder if a second litterbox might help, as others have suggested? > While I can pet him, now, all over the top and sides of his body I still can > not allow my fingers to touch his belly area without him dropping into a > crouch and becoming defensive and hissing. Of course it is great progress > from not being able to touch him at all! What I am loking for here is being > able to pick him up and put him in the crate to take him to the clinic. > Perhaps I need more patience and time. Being able to pet him is such an improvement! Does he purr at all yet? > I am going to the grocery store now to buy food for him, Annie is going with > me in a way. It is a good thing I have a van, that cat eats a lot of food! Purrs are still coming for you and Four. So glad that the wound is starting to look a little better. Susan M Otis and Chester No purrs yet. When Victor was a young cat, he is 10 now, you couldn't hear him purrr, you had to put your hand to his rib cage to feel him rumble. Either Four isn't purring yet or he is a silent purrer. You sure all would know when that happened; it would be a major news flash! The wound is healing. I wish I could get pictures, if not for here then for his "baby book." But he turns away when I am on that side of him as he turns when I am at his back. I'm sure that is a protective measure. Now that the holidays are (almost) over I can spend more time with him and hopefully get him to trust me enough to pick him up. That is the key to being able to put him in the crate to take him to the vets. Here's hoping that will happen soon. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Four is making progress but is not without challenges. > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Susan M > Otis and Chester >No purrs yet. When Victor was a young cat, he is 10 now, you couldn't hear >him purrr, you had to put your hand to his rib cage to feel him rumble. >Either Four isn't purring yet or he is a silent purrer. You sure all would >know when that happened; it would be a major news flash! Rocky was that way. At first I wasn't sure he had a voice, as he didn't meow or have an audible purr. Once he started jumping up on my lap I discovered he had a silent purr. He was also a drooler LOL. >The wound is healing. I wish I could get pictures, if not for here then for >his "baby book." But he turns away when I am on that side of him as he [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >put him in the crate to take him to the vets. Here's hoping that will >happen soon. Purrs for the wound to continue to heal. I imagine some meds will speed the healing process alot, so we'll keep those purrs coming for you to gain his trust enough to get him to the vet. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit, Spot, Princess and Furby with loving memories of Rocky (RB) SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > >>No purrs yet. When Victor was a young cat, he is 10 now, you couldn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > didn't meow or have an audible purr. Once he started jumping up on my > lap I discovered he had a silent purr. He was also a drooler LOL. Aren't cats just wonderful! I'm glad you made the Rocky discoveries and enjoyed them for many years. We discovered that Vicctor Velcro can not pronounce m's. He can't meow, he yow's. It's cute. >>The wound is healing. I wish I could get pictures, if not for here then >>for [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > speed the healing process alot, so we'll keep those purrs coming for > you to gain his trust enough to get him to the vet. Things are looking good for him to be going to the vet soon, not sure when soon is though. And cats have been know to have a different schedule than their people do. We'll see what happens but I know it will be good. > Four is making progress but is not without challenges. So glad to hear the wound is looking so much better already. He does sound like such a very nice cat. Purrs on-going for you both. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Marina, Thanks so much for your support and your kitties on-going purrs. They means alot. He is a very nice cat. I would even say a gentleman (with poor toileting habits though!) I'm begining to think of what is going to happen when he gets a clean bill of health and is ready to be intergrated in to the household. Well, I'll think of that tomorrow!! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Four is making progress but is not without challenges. > > So glad to hear the wound is looking so much better already. He does sound > like such a very nice cat. Purrs on-going for you both. I was thinking as I read and catch up that you might also get a covered box to see what if anything he prefers in the way of a particular box, if you can figure that out while he is living on the porch it might help reduce the issues once you start bringing him inside, Lee > Marina, Thanks so much for your support and your kitties on-going purrs. > They means alot. He is a very nice cat. I would even say a gentleman (with [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > -- > > Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. I purchased the BIG litter box (feeding trough) before I read your post. I'll go with this for a while and see what happens. If no changes then on to Plan C. Thanks very much for the idea. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >I was thinking as I read and catch up that you might also get a covered box > to see what if anything he prefers in the way of a particular box, if you [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> > -- >> > Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. I was also wondering, have you noticed does he have front claws? Lee > I purchased the BIG litter box (feeding trough) before I read your post. > I'll go with this for a while and see what happens. If no changes then on [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >> > -- > >> > Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. I can't tell about front claws but back claws are evident. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >I was also wondering, have you noticed does he have front claws? Lee >> I purchased the BIG litter box (feeding trough) before I read your post. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> >> > -- >> >> > Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. the reason I asked is that sometimes no claws or badly removed ones can cause bathroom issues, Lee > I can't tell about front claws but back claws are evident. > -- [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. try getting a second box, some cats want to use one for each type of elimination... and given he looks to you to be a purebred that may be why he was turned out, Lee > Four is making progress but is not without challenges. He has finally gone > into the crate and is even napping in it, that is a biggie! While he is [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > St. Cloud, Florida USA Lee, why would a cat be turned out because he was a pure bred?????? SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > try getting a second box, some cats want to use one for each type of > elimination... and given he looks to you to be a purebred that may be why [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >> St. Cloud, Florida USA sorry I wasn't clear, I meant he was or might have been turned out because of his toileting habits, Lee > Lee, why would a cat be turned out because he was a pure bred?????? > -- [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > >> St. Cloud, Florida USA Wow, you bring up a point. Are there cats who have continuing toileting problems? I know that this situtation can't continue as acceptable but I look at it as a part of the current delimia. It appears, from his behavior, that Four has not been fixed, so some of the problem may be taken care of there. Intergration into the household and sorting out of who is alpha may stop other aspects of his behavior. Major purrs needed for that to happen!! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > sorry I wasn't clear, I meant he was or might have been turned out > because [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA yes there are cats with problems but most can be solved with enough work a few issues and resolutions. -boxes weren't kept clean so cat looks for other areas to go-- keep boxes immaculate. -cat has claws removed or botched job so pain when digging in box -- fix claws area and get softer easier to use litter. -infection causes pain when urinating so cat associates pain with box and seeks alternative-- fix infection and clean clean clean. -dominance issues of who gets what box-- more clean boxes. -cat hates type of box or type of litter-- try lots of choices until you find what suites him. where this will be easier for you is that you know who has the issue as the cats are separated. it may take time to work them out but you always have the alternative of keeping him on the porch until the issues are solved and you can if need be only bring him in the house under supervision. Lee > Wow, you bring up a point. Are there cats who have continuing toileting > problems? I know that this situtation can't continue as acceptable but I [quoted text clipped - 97 lines] > >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA Lee, thank you so much for all this information. Four has not pooped on the floor or in the KK (that I can see) since I set up the new BIG litter box. Some of the issues you raise will be answered when he gets to the vets. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > yes there are cats with problems but most can be solved with enough work a > few issues and resolutions. [quoted text clipped - 135 lines] >> >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >> >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA I am glad to offer what little help I can, Lee > Lee, thank you so much for all this information. Four has not pooped on the > floor or in the KK (that I can see) since I set up the new BIG litter box. [quoted text clipped - 144 lines] > >> >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > >> >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA It has been more than a little bit and appreciated a lot as has advice from others and the support of many others. Things are happening very fast now and I'm not as sure as I would like to be about what should happen next. I want to do the right thing. Four has reverted to pooping in the KK and on the floor. I don't understand why he used the litter box for one day and then stopped. There is no evidence that he is peeing anywhere else than in the KK which is a great disappointment. He was rubbing against my legs when I came to feed him, he has stopped doing that, I can't think of any reason why he stopped. I can still pet him all over, except for his belly. He will sit in front of me while I am on the floor or on the chaise lounge and talk to me but won't come any closer even to sniff my hand, I don't know what I can do to encourage him to get closer. He still eats four meals a day and with great gusto. The wound is healing. His eyes are bright, his coat is truly beautiful. His meow is loud and demanding! His confirmation appears to be normal. (Does confirmation apply to other than horses??) He is in no apparent pain or discomfort. The crate. At DH's suggestion I moved the crate closer to the area where Four spent most of his time. (The porch is large.) It was covered with a big blue towel as advised by Dr. Mulero. Four made himself at home in there immediately. I folded back the towel, uncovering the wire door, not a problem for Four. I folded the towel completly up putting it on top of the crate. He sleeps on it. Moved the wire door to less than wide open, didn't seem to bother the big cat at all. He is comfortable staying in the crate when I am on the porch, unless of course, I am carry food then he is starving to death and must eat immediately. It is time. This week I will call St. Francis Animal Hospital and get Dr. Mulero's schedule for the next two weeks. The time will be spent with me finding out just how close I can get to the crate with him staying in it and nudging the wire crate door into a position where I can close it quickly but not close enough to frighten him and how will I know if it will frighten him until I reach that point. Then will he return to the crate if I blow it?? I so very badly don't want to set him back. People have disappointed him for the last three years, I don't, just don't want to have that happen to him again. Purrs requested. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >I am glad to offer what little help I can, Lee >> Lee, thank you so much for all this information. Four has not pooped on [quoted text clipped - 186 lines] >> >> >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >> >> >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA > It has been more than a little bit and appreciated a lot as has > advice from others and the support of many others. Things are [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Purrs requested. Purrs on route. Whatever you do will be the right thing. There's never a "wrong" thing, just many "different" things. SignatureMatSav first of all you are doing fine, second he will be frightened and you need to accept that, do it get it over with when you know you can get him seen and start on the trust issues... as to the pooping and peeing, could be because you moved the crate, or because he is really feeling well enough to assert himself... truthfully, while I think it is beneficial for you to know all the reasons/fixes for toileting issues it is the least of your worries... in the worst case he will live on your porch, and come into your house only supervised... not a bad improvement for a cat who was starving with a gaping wound mere weeks ago... whatever you do will improve his life in the long run. and since every step you have taken even when it has scared him has improved his lot, being a MC and as smart as you say he will figure this out... and the pooping could be as simple as a food allergy, cut yourself a break you are doing wonderfully, ask Helen M she is an expert, Lee > It has been more than a little bit and appreciated a lot as has advice from > others and the support of many others. Things are happening very fast now [quoted text clipped - 235 lines] > >> >> >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > >> >> >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA I have dealt with abused children and, believe it or not, they pretty much follow this same pattern. Any chance throwing the litter in the box gets in the would or the dust irritates it. You are doing great, cut yourself some slack!! Get the date, close the door and get him to the vet. Trust can built again because he will feel better when all is said and done. > first of all you are doing fine, second he will be frightened and you need > to accept that, do it get it over with when you know you can get him seen [quoted text clipped - 303 lines] >> >> >> >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >> >> >> >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA Okay, I'm on track and he is too, even though he doesn't realize it! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >I have dealt with abused children and, believe it or not, they pretty much >follow this same pattern. Any chance throwing the litter in the box gets [quoted text clipped - 321 lines] >>> >> >> >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >>> >> >> >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA > and since every step you have taken even when it has scared him has improved > his lot, being a MC and as smart as you say he will figure this out... and > the pooping could be as simple as a food allergy, cut yourself a break you > are doing wonderfully, ask Helen M she is an expert, Lee I wouldn't say that (although thank you for the compliment). There are others who are far, far more experienced than I, all of whom are giving me advice to pass on to Charleen. Personally, I wouldn't worry about the litter box habits at the moment. Get him sorted first, and worry about the behavioural stuff after. Helen m It's all coming together and from all of you. I told told Helen at one time, and don't remember if I told the group, that if I ever entered Four in a cat show listed as owner would be RPCA. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> and since every step you have taken even when it has scared him has >> improved [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Helen m Hugs and purrs, for both of you. SignatureJoy Nothing is impossible. Some things are just less likely than others. -- Jonathan Winters > It has been more than a little bit and appreciated a lot as has advice > from others and the support of many others. Things are happening very [quoted text clipped - 242 lines] >>> >> >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >>> >> >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA Thanks Joy. Tonight I spent a few minutes close to the side of the crate shuffling around beside it where he could hear me and see me, he didn't leave the it. That was very good. Now to get the door into place! Purrs into action!! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > Hugs and purrs, for both of you. > [quoted text clipped - 252 lines] >>>> >> >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >>>> >> >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA > Thanks Joy. Tonight I spent a few minutes close to the side of the crate > shuffling around beside it where he could hear me and see me, he didn't > leave the it. That was very good. Now to get the door into place! Purrs into > action!! Purrs still coming! I think that the trust issues will be overcome quicker than you think after the crating. He likes the food and the safety a lot and he'll be drawn back to the easy life in no time. I'm very excited that he will be going to TED pretty soon - look forward to hearing what the good doc says! Susan M Otis and Chester He appears to be so healthy with the exception of the wound. I believe that he will need to be neutered and the wound mended and then he will be fine. Fingers crossed!! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Thanks Joy. Tonight I spent a few minutes close to the side of the crate >> shuffling around beside it where he could hear me and see me, he didn't [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Susan M > Otis and Chester ...> > It is time. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > St. Cloud, Florida USA"Stormmee" <rgr...@consolidated.net> wrote in message I will be on pins and needles waiting to see how it goes. Major purrs coming your way. Most likely, Four will be O.K. after you shut him in the crate. He may just hunker down and try to be invisible, but don't panic if he bounces around like a kernal of popcorn. He's not likely to be able to injure himself, Remember, if you already have him in the crate, you have a way to get him to the vet whatever happens. Be sure to secure the latch on the crate after you shut the door. You might be thinking ahead of time how to reinforce it, maybe tying it somehow or something like that in addition to whatever latch it has. He is stronger now than he was when he moved all those books. Also, put a towel or similar cover over it so that he can't see out, but be sure he has enough air. Don't wait until the last minute to catch him. Do it when you are not rushed. He can stay in the crate as long as overnight if he has a morning appointment. You will feel like a terrible traitor. I know it will be hard. Here is a little something that might encourage you. I have written before about how I trapped Rosie. She was about 7 months old, untouched and untouchable. A couple of months later we had to evacuate for a hurricane. At that time, I was able to pet Rosie on her back, but not to pick her up. We had her in a spare bedroom with a day bed and a coffee table. I had a large, hard-sided crate in the room, and left the door to it open all the time, so she was used to it being there. I sat by the crate and she came over to me to be petted, but when I tried to close my hands around her, she dashed away. We did not have time to mess around. We had the car packed and the storm was headed for us. We had our other two cats in the car already. We ended up chasing Rosie around the room and moving the mattress to get her out from under the bed. Jim threw a towel over her and grabbed her and shoved her and the towel into the crate. I slammed the door and latched it. We loaded her in the car and left town. Fortunately, the storm turned away from us, and we were able to return the next day. Rosie would not have anything to do with Jim for weeks, but she warmed up to me again right away. No matter how bad you feel when you do the deed, you will be pleasantly surprised at how rapidly Four will come around again. It probably will be harder on you than on him. I'll ask Rosie for some special purrs for Four to take the whole thing in stride and not worry you. Annie - Charleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA On Dec 30, 5:00 pm, "Charleen Welton" <ilikec...@cfl.rr.com> wrote: ...> > It is time. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > St. Cloud, Florida USA"Stormmee" <rgr...@consolidated.net> wrote in > message I will be on pins and needles waiting to see how it goes. Major purrs coming your way. Accepting purrs! Most likely, Four will be O.K. after you shut him in the crate. He may just hunker down and try to be invisible, but don't panic if he bounces around like a kernal of popcorn. He's not likely to be able to injure himself, Remember, if you already have him in the crate, you have a way to get him to the vet whatever happens. Be sure to secure the latch on the crate after you shut the door. You might be thinking ahead of time how to reinforce it, maybe tying it somehow or something like that in addition to whatever latch it has. He is stronger now than he was when he moved all those books. Also, put a towel or similar cover over it so that he can't see out, but be sure he has enough air. Hadn't thought of that. Okay, can do that with duct tape which holds our house together. Will put the towel over the crate. Poor Pumpkin went ballistic in the crate, poor kitty. Don't wait until the last minute to catch him. Do it when you are not rushed. He can stay in the crate as long as overnight if he has a morning appointment. The good doctor gave Four and I some leeway here, he wouldn't make an appointment. He told me that when it was time I was just to come in and he would see us. He is cool. You will feel like a terrible traitor. I know it will be hard. You are correct on both counts here Annie! Here is a little something that might encourage you. I have written before about how I trapped Rosie. She was about 7 months old, untouched and untouchable. A couple of months later we had to evacuate for a hurricane. At that time, I was able to pet Rosie on her back, but not to pick her up. We had her in a spare bedroom with a day bed and a coffee table. I had a large, hard-sided crate in the room, and left the door to it open all the time, so she was used to it being there. I sat by the crate and she came over to me to be petted, but when I tried to close my hands around her, she dashed away. We did not have time to mess around. We had the car packed and the storm was headed for us. We had our other two cats in the car already. We ended up chasing Rosie around the room and moving the mattress to get her out from under the bed. Jim threw a towel over her and grabbed her and shoved her and the towel into the crate. I slammed the door and latched it. We loaded her in the car and left town. Fortunately, the storm turned away from us, and we were able to return the next day. Rosie would not have anything to do with Jim for weeks, but she warmed up to me again right away. No matter how bad you feel when you do the deed, you will be pleasantly surprised at how rapidly Four will come around again. It probably will be harder on you than on him. I'll ask Rosie for some special purrs for Four to take the whole thing in stride and not worry you. Annie What a story. It sounds as though that is why Dr. Mulero told me that I might have to do the towel thing if the crate thing didn't work. I'm glad the storm didn't come and that you all finally got "together" again. I'll let you know what is happening as soon as it happens. Charleen > - > Charleen > Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro > The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > On Dec 30, 5:00 pm, "Charleen Welton" <ilikec...@cfl.rr.com> wrote: ... > Be sure to secure the latch on the crate after you shut the door. You > might be thinking ahead of time how to reinforce it, maybe tying it > somehow or something like that in addition to whatever latch it has. ... Annie > Hadn't thought of that. Okay, can do that with duct tape which holds our > house together. > Charleen Ha ha. I understand about the duct tape. I think it will do the job just fine to keep him in his crate. Still sending good luck purrs and prayers. Annie <snip> > It is time. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > just don't want to have that happen to him again. > Purrs requested. Purrs on the way for a successful capture and treatment. Once he's healthy his bathroom problems can be tackled. I wonder if maybe he was once a stud cat and was used to people but not lived indoors. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk That's interesting Adrian. If he was used as a stud wouldn't he have belonged to someone and been available for service for fees? I'm not knowledgable about the goings on in the world of cat breeding. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > <snip> >> It is time. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > his bathroom problems can be tackled. I wonder if maybe he was once a stud > cat and was used to people but not lived indoors. I'm not knowledgable about the world of cat breeding either, I just thought that might be a possibility. > That's interesting Adrian. If he was used as a stud wouldn't he have > belonged to someone and been available for service for fees? I'm not [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk which makes me think when Dr. M. has him out for the fix, ask him to check for a tattoo, Lee > I'm not knowledgable about the world of cat breeding either, I just thought > that might be a possibility. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart > >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk I will suggest that but bet that cool doctor will do that plus check for a chip. If his owner is discovered he/she will be in for a piece of my mind! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > which makes me think when Dr. M. has him out for the fix, ask him to > check [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >> >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk and a bill for all of the money you have spent, plus $20.00 day boarding fees, plus $25.00 per hour for the care feeding and so on, that bill would be so long they would willing sing him over to you, Lee > I will suggest that but bet that cool doctor will do that plus check for a > chip. If his owner is discovered he/she will be in for a piece of my mind! [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >> >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart > >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >and a bill for all of the money you have spent, plus $20.00 day boarding >fees, plus $25.00 per hour for the care feeding and so on, that bill would >be so long they would willing sing him over to you, Lee That sounds like what I told Spot's previous owner. I'm pretty sure I wrote about how Tad, a guy that was working for me, said that Spot was his cat. The story was that his girlfriend didn't like Molly (Spot's previous name) and put her out of the apartment. Once outside Spot, wouldn't let Tad near her. Well, I believe his story, as Spot does seem to recognize him now from her previous life, and always ends up in his lap when he comes to visit. According to the story, Spotty was an inside only cat, coming into heat for the first time, and living with someone who didn't like cats in the first place. The girlfriend put her out because Spot was acting up, and wanted out. (On a side note: this ended the relationship between Tad and the girlfriend.) Spot was in the Big Out, scared of everything and everybody. She wouldn't let Tad close enough so that she could recognize who he was. ISTR a story of Marina's Frank getting out and being lost, and how he didn't recognize Marina at first. So, even a dearly loved cat, who is in strange surroundings, can be fearful and not want to be rescued when approached by their hoomin. Spot was in pretty bad shape when I finally managed to get her (and her kittens) inside. She was severely underweight, had an abscessed bite wound, and ears full of mites. It took several trips to TED before she was well. Anyway, back to the thread, when Tad saw her through the window about a year later, he said that she was his cat. I told him that maybe she had been his cat at one time, but after paying a bunch of money on vet bills she was now MY cat. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit, Spot, Princess and Furby with loving memories of Rocky (RB) This happened to me once with a dog and the owner contacted the cops, they came with a warrant and took the dog, who didn't want to go. So, we ended up in small claims court and sued him for the $800.00 we had spent on the dog. He had a choice, pay the bills or give me back to dog. He said no dog was worth that and the judge added another $500.00 for me for "pain and suffering. I got the dog, he money which went to a local shelter and he got hissed off at all of us!! >>and a bill for all of the money you have spent, plus $20.00 day boarding >>fees, plus $25.00 per hour for the care feeding and so on, that bill would [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > had been his cat at one time, but after paying a bunch of money on vet > bills she was now MY cat. I'm glad you took care of her and a hiss-spit on the girlfriend. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >>and a bill for all of the money you have spent, plus $20.00 day boarding >>fees, plus $25.00 per hour for the care feeding and so on, that bill would [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > had been his cat at one time, but after paying a bunch of money on vet > bills she was now MY cat. > Spot was in the Big Out, scared of everything and everybody. She > wouldn't let Tad close enough so that she could recognize who he was. > ISTR a story of Marina's Frank getting out and being lost, and how > he didn't recognize Marina at first. So, even a dearly loved cat, who > is in strange surroundings, can be fearful and not want to be rescued > when approached by their hoomin. Yes, you remember correctly. The story (from Frank's point of view) is at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/chronicles.htm (scroll down to Chapter IV). I don't think I've heard Spot's back story before. She is lucky to be with you now! SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. >> Spot was in the Big Out, scared of everything and everybody. She >> wouldn't let Tad close enough so that she could recognize who he was. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Yes, you remember correctly. The story (from Frank's point of view) is >at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/chronicles.htm (scroll down to Chapter IV). I reread both Frank and Nikki's stories. I'm sure I had read them way back when, but rereading them was like visiting old friends. >I don't think I've heard Spot's back story before. She is lucky to be >with you now! I found out about Spot's previous home this past summer, during my long absence and may never posted about it. I have to admit that when I brought Spot inside I never made any effort to find her previous owner. To me she looked like a cat that had been dumped to fend for herself when she became pregnant. I had been feeding her on my patio before she had her kittens, and he lives within a block of my apartment. So, I don't think Tad made much of an effort to catch her and bring her back inside. Even if his story about had she ended up on the streets is correct, he would have had a fight on his hands if he had tried to reclaim her - IMHO Spotty deserves better, and I try to give her what she deserves. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit, Spot, Princess and Furby with loving memories of Rocky (RB) exactly, and is better your cat for sure, if I ever had anyone put one of mine out, they would be nanoseconds right behind them, Lee > >and a bill for all of the money you have spent, plus $20.00 day boarding > >fees, plus $25.00 per hour for the care feeding and so on, that bill would [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Princess and Furby > with loving memories of Rocky (RB) yes but the cat my SIL is a perfect confirmation Manx, which you would think there would have been a search for, but he never got so much as a poster, so he won't be making anymore kittens, he is a wonderful cat, Lee > That's interesting Adrian. If he was used as a stud wouldn't he have > belonged to someone and been available for service for fees? I'm not [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Cats leave pawprints on your heart > > http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk You know, Lee, if only these little animals could talk what stories they could tell. When I first came to RPCA 12 years ago some one told of camping and finding a cat that appeared to be homeless. These folks checked at the ranger office and at the camp sites and no one owned the cat. The family decided to take the cat home with them but as it turned out Kitty was no where to be found when the family had to leave. The dedication to the welfare of that cat was such that the family return from where they lived later and found the cat who went home with them. If I remember correctly, and I don't always, that family is still an active and loved catslave contributor. You have to wonder what story your SILs Manx could tell. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > yes but the cat my SIL is a perfect confirmation Manx, which you would > think [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> > Cats leave pawprints on your heart >> > http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > You know, Lee, if only these little animals could talk what stories they > could tell. When I first came to RPCA 12 years ago some one told of camping [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and I don't always, that family is still an active and loved catslave > contributor. Wasn't that Pam S and her family? And the cat in question was Pine Cone. Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. Yes. A quintessential cat slave family if ever there was one! Pam and her family has given so much to this group, to individual cats, animal welfare and the caring of people over the years that she and they deserve an award that is to big to comprehend creating. I have to believe that it will be given by some One and in a Place other than here. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > > > You know, Lee, if only these little animals could talk what stories they [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Joyce > Yes. A quintessential cat slave family if ever there was one! Pam and her > family has given so much to this group, to individual cats, animal welfare [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > > Joyce Awwww, Shucks, fellows. I don't consider us that different from the rest of us here. You all do stuff for our better species on a daily basis. I just boa. . .I mean post more about it. Pam S. awed by how much we all love our owners >Pam S. awed by how much we all love our owners As a dedicated cat slave, I'm amazed at how much OTHERS DON'T love cats. But then, I'm biased (grin). Hugs and Purrs, Mark SignatureProof of Sanity Forged Upon Request but you do it as most of us without expecting anything in return, during the toughest of family issues, and then give us joy by sharing with us, Lee On Jan 1, 9:03 am, "Charleen Welton" <ilikec...@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Yes. A quintessential cat slave family if ever there was one! Pam and her > family has given so much to this group, to individual cats, animal welfare [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > Joyce Awwww, Shucks, fellows. I don't consider us that different from the rest of us here. You all do stuff for our better species on a daily basis. I just boa. . .I mean post more about it. Pam S. awed by how much we all love our owners On Jan 1, 5:22 am, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > > You know, Lee, if only these little animals could talk what stories they > > could tell. When I first came to RPCA 12 years ago some one told of camping [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Joyce Yes and No. Pine Cone adopted us at the camp ground at Morrow Mountain State park here in North Carolina. He not only stayed with us, but discovered the joys of hot dogs, pancake batter, and Iams kitten food. Unfortunately the Iams didn't like him and gave him severe gas. We brought him home intending to find a new home for him, only to discover that he had his new home. He has grown from a terrified, clumsy, bad@ss kitten to a confident, clumsy, bad@ss adult. He has adventures all the time and teaches us puny hoomins that he is the CAT. Pam S. catpecked by the Coney One he must have a wonderful story to tell. He is perfectly behaved indoors, he is fierce outside, and insists on going out, he is loyal, ruled the dog with an iron paw, and scared the snot out of SI |
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