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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / December 2007ARRGGHHHH!!!!
I was in the pet store today buying pet food, and I did as I always do and checked out the advertising board.... I saw a sign. "Good Homes wanted for 3 cats, all spayed/neutered, 1 year, 2 years and 3 years. They don't get on with new puppy - ring XXXXX" I HATE, HATE, HATE people who think pets are disposable. Judging by the ages of the cats, they have been Christmas kittens for the last 3 years. *I've* successfully integrated dogs with ferals and cats who are scared of dogs through being used as dog bait as kittens for Basts sake! It takes time and careful introductions. You don't just plonk a puppy down and expect the resident cats to get on with it! I am *SO* bloody mad. Sorry, just had to get the rant off my chest. We now return to your regularly scheduled broadcast. Helen M leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk wrote in news:3e7b1b72-a549-4024-8fad- edd63a0aaf00@v32g2000hsa.googlegroups.com: > I was in the pet store today buying pet food, and I did as I always > do and checked out the advertising board.... [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Helen M aww Helen, what's the big deal? You know the puppy is a puppy and those kittens have turned into.. well.. CATS. The kids just love those baby animals, now. Next year we will get something else and throw out the dog! No problem; they're just animals after all. You have to love the lesson that gets taught by people like that. sigh.. Andy > You have to love the lesson that gets taught by people like that. sigh.. Yep they're teaching their kids that living things can be disposed off when they're not cute baby animals anymore...and sadly you'll never see a sign saying "Free to good homes- 3 children aged 1, 2 and 3 years- don't get on with the new baby" (Of course if you suggested to the people who put that sign up that that was the logical conclusion of their treating animals as disposable when they are no longer "cute" (Okay I find babies hideous and think cats are cute whatever their age but ignore me I'm weird)- they'd stare at you as if you were mad Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > Yep they're teaching their kids that living things can be disposed off > when they're not cute baby animals anymore...and sadly you'll never > see a sign saying "Free to good homes- 3 children aged 1, 2 and 3 > years- don't get on with the new baby" Or, better yet: "Free to good homes- 3 children aged 1, 2 and 3 years- don't get on with the new CAT", LOL. > (Okay I find babies hideous > and think cats are cute whatever their age but ignore me I'm weird)- Not to me, you're not! :) (I do think toddlers are cute, though.) Joyce  SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. > > Yep they're teaching their kids that living things can be disposed off > > when they're not cute baby animals anymore...and sadly you'll never [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Joyce Joyce - I think you, me & Lesley should found a baby-hater/pet lover's club :) -- The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)© email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep > <bastXXXette@sonic.net> wrote in message >>> (Okay I find babies hideous >>> and think cats are cute whatever their age but ignore me I'm weird)- >> Not to me, you're not! :) > Joyce - I think you, me & Lesley should found a baby-hater/pet lover's club > :) LOL, well, to be honest, I don't *hate* babies. I just don't think they're very cute. Something about the bald head, I think. Just doesn't get the oxytocin flowing the way a litter of kittens would. :) Maybe I was a mother cat in a former life? Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. > > <bastXXXette@sonic.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Joyce It's not that babies are not cute; they just aren't cute right away. They get cute about 25 years later when they move out. Andy >It's not that babies are not cute; they just aren't cute right away. >They get cute about 25 years later when they move out. > >Andy but they keep coming back SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit, Spot, Princess and Furby with loving memories of Rocky (RB) > Joyce - I think you, me & Lesley should found a baby-hater/pet lover's club I don't hate babies! I love babies but I couldn't eat two at once! (Babies know this- at some instinctive level they realise I don't like them (apart from roasted or fried!). The last time I was forcibly required to hold one it was my 4-month old great neice and to be fair I did warn them but no sooner had I picked it (Her, I think) up than she started to wiggle and her mum yelled at me to "support her head"- I'm afraid my reply was "She's 4 months old, she can support her own head surely? A kitten can". They should know better the day after my mum died, we were round my aunt's and her grandson who was a toddler got out and was about to walk towards me with no shoes and broken glass in the way so I grabbed him by his collar and hauled him up then wondered why he was struggling- it took me a minute to remember barekittens have no scruffing reflex! He'll probably be in therapy for years remebering the time when he was 18 months old and his great aunt tried to strangle him- I just hope I don't get the bill for it!) I look at it this way, a lot of people have kids because it's expected of them and make an awful mess of it(And I've had enough "When you gonna make me an uncle/aunt/granny etc" comments- I am almost glad my mother thought if Dave and me had a kids it would "be another it" ( ie with Dave's upper limb deformities) so she didn't push the issue). I looked at it, decided kids were fine for some people but I would such a ghastly parent and I didn't want one anyway so I didn't. I call myself "a concerned non-parent" At least I thought about having children rather than plunging into without thinking it through Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > I don't hate babies! I love babies but I couldn't eat two at once! http://icanhascheezburger.com/?s=eat+baby :) > The last time I was forcibly > required to hold one it was my 4-month old great neice and to be fair > I did warn them but no sooner had I picked it (Her, I think) up than > she started to wiggle and her mum yelled at me to "support her head"- > I'm afraid my reply was "She's 4 months old, she can support her own > head surely? A kitten can". BWAHAHAHAHA!!! When the first of my friends had her first baby, I was visiting her in the hospital. The baby wasn't with her at the time, so I didn't see him right off the bat. But in the course of conversation, I remember asking her if he'd opened his eyes yet!! :) Fortunately, my friend was not a cat person, so she had no idea what I was talking about. I would've gotten holy hell for that question if she had. > I look at it this way, a lot of people have kids because it's expected > of them and make an awful mess of it(And I've had enough "When you [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > At least I thought about having children rather than plunging into > without thinking it through The same is true for me. I never wanted to be a parent. And I was smart enough to realize (and lucky enough to be born in a time that allowed me to realize) that not wanting kids would *make* me a bad parent. As I had grown up with a mother who had zero interest in parenting, I knew I didn't want to inflict that on an innocent human being. I like kids. They're cute, they're interesting, they're fun to talk to and play with. And then they go home with their parents. :) Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. On 25 Dec, 12:28, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: As I > had grown up with a mother who had zero interest in parenting, I knew I > didn't want to inflict that on an innocent human being. > >I happened to have a very loving momma..long as you was a son or at least her firsrborn son my youngest brother was told he was an accident (but a nice one she told him adding "unlike your sister" I MADE her go through the whole damn business of being pregnant again because I was so inconsiderate as to be born female and not the son and heir I was supposed to be) Maybe I think I don't like kids as a result or maybe I didn't like the noise ( to this day when I am on the train and a kid starts screaning I have to get off I can understand why parents hit kids who make that kind of noise 'cos I am tempted-yeah would have been a lousy parent but I am a damn good catslave) Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > > Yep they're teaching their kids that living things can be disposed off > > when they're not cute baby animals anymore...and sadly you'll never [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > (I do think toddlers are cute, though.) I think almost ANY infant animal (mammal, at least) is "cute"! (I've often wondered if it were some sort of built-in evolutionary feature to encourage animals to nurture the young of other species.) > I think almost ANY infant animal (mammal, at least) is > "cute"! (I've often wondered if it were some sort of > built-in evolutionary feature to encourage animals to > nurture the young of other species.) Totally! Actually, I think it's that people evolved to respond to babies, rather than babies evolving to be "cute". After all, what is cuteness? They're only cute because we see them that way. Most people (and probably most mammals) get a bunch of hormones flowing through their bodies when they see a small baby - often of any species. Oxytocin being one of the prime suspects. I call it the "awww" drug. :) Remember that news story about the group of teenage boys who broke into a veterinary office to steal oxycontin? That's a heavy-duty tranq used on large animals, and can get you pretty high. Well, these kids were a little confused, so when they found some "oxytocin" (sometimes given to mother animals to help them bond with their babies and nurse them), they thought that's what they were looking for, and that's what they took. I've always thought that they must not have gotten very high, but I'll bet they became very fond of one another! :) Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. On 25 Dec, 12:52, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > Totally! Actually, I think it's that people evolved to respond to > babies, rather than babies evolving to be "cute". After all, what is > cuteness? They're only cute because we see them that way. I think it supposed to go both ways they look "cute" (Not for me I think small babies are ugly) and we respond to the cute > Most people (and probably most mammals) get a bunch of hormones > flowing through their bodies when they see a small baby - I don't- I spent many years fending off the "It'll be different when you have your own" crowd. Apparently I am supposed to go through hours of labour (My niece was 35 hours and when she annouced she wished to call the result "Paige" I said to her partner "UGH what an awful name" and he said he agreed "But given what she went through she can call her what she wants") then when they put the baby in your arms, you're supposed to go all maternal and look radiant! Personally I only manage just about radiant with half a compact of Christian Dior sun powder and what if you don't? I always imagined everyone standing around the bed and me saying "Look I'm really sorry this was a big mistake,,,,can you get rid of it for me please?" Well I woulsn't treat a kitten that way so I chose never to take a chance I have actually seen it where I used to work our lift was shared with people coming from the birth ward to the maternity ward and I did once see a woman hugging her newborn baby and positively glowing and she turned to me and said "Isn't he lovely? My sixth and he came out without any problem, I was only in labour for two hours and he just slid out" Maybe that's what makes mothers glow Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs >> Most people (and probably most mammals) get a bunch of hormones >> flowing through their bodies when they see a small baby - > I don't- I spent many years fending off the "It'll be different when > you have your own" crowd. Sure, that's why I said "most". I also don't get the cuteness hormones when I see babies, but I know I have them, because they flow freely when I see cute kitties or other cute animals. JOyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. On Dec 26, 2:35 am, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > >> Most people (and probably most mammals) get a bunch of hormones > >> flowing through their bodies when they see a small baby - [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > when I see babies, but I know I have them, because they flow freely when > I see cute kitties or other cute animals. I do, as long as they are going to go home after awhile. Uncle, grandpa, mother's boyfriend etc are roles that have worked fine for me, because the kids go home eventually or I do. Of course, that has long been my attitude toward women also, so I guess I just want to be home alone with d*gs and cats, parrots optional. Will in New Haven -- " It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it." - Robert E. Lee > JOyce > > -- > To send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. even if you are a grand parent, the "going home after awhile" thing works good. Guesss it is to each their own. > On Dec 26, 2:35 am, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> -- >> To send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. > I do, as long as they are going to go home after awhile. Uncle, > grandpa, mother's boyfriend etc are roles that have worked fine for > me, because the kids go home eventually or I do. Of course, that has > long been my attitude toward women also, so I guess I just want to be > home alone with d*gs and cats, parrots optional. I can certainly relate to that! I have never had a room-mate (unless you count five years with a husband), and never wanted one. You can imagine my reaction when a female friend suggested we share an apartment, because her limited income won't allow her to have one on her own. I truly sympathize with her, being forced to live with her son and a succession of live-in girl-friends with children. (He seems to regard her as built-in baby-and-pet-sitter and maid-of-all-work, with no right to any life or interests of her own.) However, she and I have widely differing views about almost EVERYTHING, starting with religion and politics! (Even as a pet-lover, she's one of the sort who regard animals as disposable things, devoid of souls.) I TRIED to refuse politely - not sure how well I succeeded, but the subject has never come up again. (If she's not intelligent enough to realize our trying to be room-mates would be a recipe for domestic disaster, tough!) > >> Most people (and probably most mammals) get a bunch of hormones > >> flowing through their bodies when they see a small baby - [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > JOyce Our 1 month old granddaughter Emily was here yesterday. What really hit the "aww" button for me was watching my oldest grandson with her. This big awkward twenty year old boy, and he took to her like a real natural. He also drove to the hospital to see her the morning she was born. No hurry but he's gonna be a really good daddy one of these days. Jo On 25 Dec, 12:37, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote: > I think almost ANY infant animal (mammal, at least) is > "cute"! (I've often wondered if it were some sort of > built-in evolutionary feature to encourage animals to > nurture the young of other species.)- Hide quoted text - You are quite correct but I can't remember the term for it but all young mammals have a "cuter" version of their adult face apparently it makes parents more protective of the young Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs On 24 Dez., 12:42, leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > I was in the pet store today buying pet food, and I did as I always > do and checked out the advertising board.... [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Helen M It`s so hard to live with the stupidity and heartlessness of people. > I was in the pet store today buying pet food, and I did as I always > do and checked out the advertising board.... [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Helen M Next year there will be a sign up for the "dog", I'm sure. Ugh. Stupid people. On Dec 24, 6:42 am, leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > I was in the pet store today buying pet food, and I did as I always > do and checked out the advertising board.... [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > We now return to your regularly scheduled broadcast. When I was a kid, I thought "gets along like dogs and cats" referred to people who loved each other dearly. Our dogs and cats were always good friends. the occasional spat was settled without bloodshed, although it could get noisy. When they don't get along, it is usually the humans who are disfunctional. Will in New Haven -- "I think I'll find a pair of eyes tonight, to fall into and maybe strike a deal Your body for my soul, fair swap `cause cheap is how I feel" Micheal Timmins "Cause Cheap is How I Feel" Cowboy Junkies that would be the broadcast of someone beating such stupid humans into a mushy enough mess to just flush with the rest of the excrement, Lee > I was in the pet store today buying pet food, and I did as I always > do and checked out the advertising board.... [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Helen M
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