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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / December 2007Four Dec 19 2007
Hi All. Four is doing so well. He is content, I didn't say happy, on the porch. He gets a can of cat food in the morning and again in the evening plus a protein meal of tuna or sardines or mackerel mid-day. He is beginning to fill out a bit too. He lets me pet him along his whole body now. I met with Dr. Mulero this morning hoping to start Four on his antibiotics. The good doctor said that it is too soon to to that. He feels that Four needs more time for acclimation in his situation before introducting anything that feels, smells, tastes new or different. His point is that it has taken so long to capture him and that he has been injured for so long that we need to take time to do the right things in the right time frame and not create problems or set backs. I have been instructed to go onto the porch and sit on the floor the farthest distance away from Four that I can and let him come to me. When Four has reached the point where he will sit or lie beside me or in my lap and doze and or purr I have to call Dr.M. and tell him. While this is going on I am to cover the cat carrier crate with a blanket as well as putting a blanket in it and securing the door open. He is hoping that Four will become comfortable going into the crate and we can get him to the clinic in the crate. He is a handsome guy and I enjoy my time with him.  SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA wonderful, Lee > Hi All. Four is doing so well. He is content, I didn't say happy, on the > porch. He gets a can of cat food in the morning and again in the evening [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > St. Cloud, Florida USA It is wonderful, Lee and he seems to do better everyday. I'm so grateful, too, that my cats are okay with the situation. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > wonderful, Lee >> Hi All. Four is doing so well. He is content, I didn't say happy, on [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >> St. Cloud, Florida USA have you got a good look at his wound, what do you think about it? Lee, very pleased for you and him > It is wonderful, Lee and he seems to do better everyday. I'm so grateful, > too, that my cats are okay with the situation. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > >> St. Cloud, Florida USA Yes, now that I can get closer to him I can see it better. It is longer than I had originally thought it was. It runs up to under his jaw bone and back to his where his neck joins his shoulder. It is about two inches wide. And it smells terrible! Dr. Mulero explained to me that as Four becomes more comfortable where he is and his body no longer has to use engery to be on guard as not being able to sleep well and he knows that he will be fed regulary his body will use that energy to start healing the wound and I will see seeping start from it. I noticed that yesterday. He is still leary and getting him comfortable enough to get him to the vet for care may take a long time. Of course the good doctor may prescribe the antibiotic anytime that he thinks Four is secure enough to not experience a setback. I keep petting him with my fingers crossed!! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > have you got a good look at his wound, what do you think about it? Lee, > very pleased for you and him [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA you know making him comfortable may be the biggest kindness of all of this, it seems no matter the outcome, with you, someone else, or the bridge... it is just wonderful that you are showing him that there are some humans that are not complete refuse of the genetic cesspool, Lee > Yes, now that I can get closer to him I can see it better. It is longer > than I had originally thought it was. It runs up to under his jaw bone and [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA Charleen, I am glad Four is feeling more secure with you. I think he will be more friendly and relaxed when he is healthier. I don't know your whole situation, but it really concerns me that the vet does not want to treat him yet. It sounds like the immediate issue is to get that medicine into him and fight a nasty infection. I don't see how putting the medicine in his food could cause a setback -- either he eats it or he doesn't! We've gone through a lot of that here. I know trust issues can be complicated, but we've always put the priority on getting them healthy and then working more on trust. Health comes first. It sounds as though the vet might be a bit too cautious at the possible expense of Four's comfort. Hope he continues to do well with you and is feeling better soon. Rhonda > Yes, now that I can get closer to him I can see it better. It is longer > than I had originally thought it was. It runs up to under his jaw bone and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > antibiotic anytime that he thinks Four is secure enough to not experience a > setback. I keep petting him with my fingers crossed!! Rhonda, I do so wish that Four could have his meds and office visit now or soon. I am doing what the vet told me to do and every thing he has told me so far has been right on course. I believe that his course is right but that what you suggest is also right. Neither course of action is wrong. I'm sure, very certain, that things will come together soon, or that I will know, just know in my heart and know Four well enough to realiaze that it is time to act. I take what you say very seriously as I have in the past and because of your passion for the welfare of cats. Thank you for that. I will keep you update to the minute. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > Charleen, > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> prescribe the antibiotic anytime that he thinks Four is secure enough to >> not experience a setback. I keep petting him with my fingers crossed!! Good luck with Four, Charleen. I know you'll take good care of him. It's very tough emotionally to take them to the vet after you've worked so hard to gain their trust -- it seems like such a setback. Just remember that they come around much more quickly than the first time you brought them inside. Hope to keep hearing good news! Rhonda > Rhonda, I do so wish that Four could have his meds and office visit now or > soon. I am doing what the vet told me to do and every thing he has told me [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > because of your passion for the welfare of cats. Thank you for that. I will > keep you update to the minute. I am glad everything is going great. I was down in your area today. I had to go the courthouse by 192 and John Young and get my zoning permit renewed. What a bunch of monkeys with playing with footballs > Hi All. Four is doing so well. He is content, I didn't say happy, on the > porch. He gets a can of cat food in the morning and again in the evening [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > comfortable going into the crate and we can get him to the clinic in the > crate. He is a handsome guy and I enjoy my time with him. It is going very well. The Osceola County Court House, big new building? Are you telling me that the lawyers were playing football during a break? I'm not far from there at all and our roommate was in that building today for jury duty. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >I am glad everything is going great. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> become comfortable going into the crate and we can get him to the clinic >> in the crate. He is a handsome guy and I enjoy my time with him. No I was in the other one on the other side There security system is a joke every courthouse I have been to you have to pass thru inspection this one walk in and out. > It is going very well. The Osceola County Court House, big new building? > Are you telling me that the lawyers were playing football during a break? [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >>> get him to the clinic in the crate. He is a handsome guy and I enjoy my >>> time with him. Nope talking to the employees I had to explain to them what they had to do during the permit process. They looked at me like I was crazy. I asked them how long they had been there they said years. They finally listen to me and pulled up the correct permit and got it done it took all of an hour and a half when no one else was in there. Of course this was after they asked everyone in their office and other departments what to do. It was a simple sellers permit that allows me to sell products from a mobile base. They kept wanting to give a occupational permit that is assigned to a permanent place of business. Monkey humping a football was the best way to describe it Secret of jury duty never be first 20 or the last ten or you will get picked if they need people > It is going very well. The Osceola County Court House, big new building? > Are you telling me that the lawyers were playing football during a break? [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >>> get him to the clinic in the crate. He is a handsome guy and I enjoy my >>> time with him. Are you located in Osceola County? I was of the impresion that you were North of Orlando. I'll remember your advice for the next time I'm called for Jury Duty and request those numbers! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > Nope talking to the employees I had to explain to them what they had to do > during the permit process. They looked at me like I was crazy. I asked [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >>>> we can get him to the clinic in the crate. He is a handsome guy and I >>>> enjoy my time with him. No I my stores are in Orlando I live near Deltona and Deland in Volusia but have to have a permit when I work Disney, or the hotels such as the Gaylord during special event like the home builders events. I had to get my renewal before my stores are sold Don't have to request them just wait outside the door and let the first twenty people go in before you and sign in. I learned my lesson the hard way won't do that again ;-) > Are you located in Osceola County? I was of the impresion that you were > North of Orlando. I'll remember your advice for the next time I'm called [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >>>>> and we can get him to the clinic in the crate. He is a handsome guy >>>>> and I enjoy my time with him. Bureaucracies!! SignatureCharleen bureaucracies Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > No I my stores are in Orlando I live near Deltona and Deland in Volusia > but have to have a permit when I work Disney, or the hotels such as the [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >>>>>> clinic in the crate. He is a handsome guy and I enjoy my time with >>>>>> him. Monkey with a football is what they call me at work when I have 37 pieces of a coffee machine on a tray and only room to put 35 back and am trying to see where they go. Sort of knowing what I am supposed to do but six too many hands. > It is going very well. The Osceola County Court House, big new building? > Are you telling me that the lawyers were playing football during a break? [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >>> get him to the clinic in the crate. He is a handsome guy and I enjoy my >>> time with him. What the dickens are you doing with 37 pieces of coffee machine on a tray? Do you fix them? SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > Monkey with a football is what they call me at work when I have 37 pieces > of a coffee machine on a tray and only room to put 35 back and am trying [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >>>> we can get him to the clinic in the crate. He is a handsome guy and I >>>> enjoy my time with him. > Hi All. Four is doing so well. He is content, I didn't say happy, on the > porch. He gets a can of cat food in the morning and again in the evening [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > St. Cloud, Florida USA Things are progressing well and I'm so glad Four is relaxing. Does he purr when you pet him? In regards to "spiking" his food with meds, I've found that pet mince has worked the best with my cats. Dewi Nope, Dewi, he is not purring yet. Soon I hope. Please tell me what pet mince is. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Hi All. Four is doing so well. He is content, I didn't say happy, on >> the [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Dewi Pet mince is minced meat that's packaged for pets, so it's cheaper than minced meat from the butcher. I just assumed that you guys had it over there or maybe you have a different name for it? Beef and kangaroo pet mince is very popular with my cats, they don't like the chicken mince for some reason. Dewi > Nope, Dewi, he is not purring yet. Soon I hope. Please tell me what pet > mince is. [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > > Dewi > Pet mince is minced meat that's packaged for pets, so it's cheaper > than minced meat from the butcher. I just assumed that you guys had it > over there or maybe you have a different name for it? Beef and > kangaroo pet mince is very popular with my cats, they don't like the > chicken mince for some reason. We have something similar in Finland (though not Skippy, obviously - we might have Rudolf, if reindeer wasn't 'too expensive' to use in pet food). The packages usually say it's for d*gs, but since it's just raw minced meat, I tried it with the cats. It feels very greasy, which is OK unless your cat is very overweight, but the cats didn't really take to it. Dunno why. They pretty much refuse any kind of mince these days. SignatureMarina I've been on line and not been able to find pet mince or anything close to it. Is it a fresh or frozen product as opposed to a canned or packaged product? I can't image a food product that Four would refuse to eat!! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Pet mince is minced meat that's packaged for pets, so it's cheaper >> than minced meat from the butcher. I just assumed that you guys had it [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > your cat is very overweight, but the cats didn't really take to it. Dunno > why. They pretty much refuse any kind of mince these days. > I've been on line and not been able to find pet mince or anything close to > it. Is it a fresh or frozen product as opposed to a canned or packaged > product? I can't image a food product that Four would refuse to eat!! Here, it's a frozen product. SignatureMarina Thanks Marina. It's a no go here. I'll try hamburg. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> I've been on line and not been able to find pet mince or anything close >> to it. Is it a fresh or frozen product as opposed to a canned or >> packaged product? I can't image a food product that Four would refuse to >> eat!! > > Here, it's a frozen product. > I've been on line and not been able to find pet mince or anything close to > it. Is it a fresh or frozen product as opposed to a canned or packaged > product? I can't image a food product that Four would refuse to eat!! Isn't "mince" just the British/Australian (and maybe others) word for "ground meat"? What we would call hamburger (if beef), or ground pork, lamb, turkey, etc? I would say, don't look for the word "mince" if you're checking out American companies. "Ground meat cat food" might be better search terms. Joyce Joyce, you were correct. There are American companies that provide ground meat for cats. Not many and they are very expensive. Some of the products are ground chicken necks and bones. Others are better! Can't image why I didn't think to do that, I Google everything else! Thank you. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > > I've been on line and not been able to find pet mince or anything close > > to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Joyce > Joyce, you were correct. There are American companies that provide ground > meat for cats. Not many and they are very expensive. Some of the products > are ground chicken necks and bones. Others are better! Can't image why I > didn't think to do that, I Google everything else! Thank you. Chicken necks and bones are fine for cats. Good source of calcium. :) SignatureMarina Okay, thanks Marina. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Joyce, you were correct. There are American companies that provide >> ground meat for cats. Not many and they are very expensive. Some of the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Chicken necks and bones are fine for cats. Good source of calcium. :) On Dec 22, 4:41 am, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > > I've been on line and not been able to find pet mince or anything close to > > it. Is it a fresh or frozen product as opposed to a canned or packaged [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Joyce Language barriers! :D Dewi The city we live in is small and none of the pet stores here carry such a product. Orlando is about an half an hours drive away, maybe some of the larger pet stores carry it. I'll call and find out. This cat eats a tremendous amount of food. I found soft treats for him as it is possible he has tooth or gum problems as he seems to not like the kibble. All in all though he is doing well. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > Pet mince is minced meat that's packaged for pets, so it's cheaper > than minced meat from the butcher. I just assumed that you guys had it [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] >> >> > Dewi The next best thing or perhaps better, would be lean ground beef from the butcher, or something similar. I actually get the pet mince from the supermarket. Here's a link to the types of pet mince I've used, http://www.vippetfoods.com.au/catfood/mince/. There are several other brands available. For my rescued tom cats (both RB now), I'd crush up the tablet and put it into the middle of small balls of raw mince. They weren't particularly fussy so would eat their medicated meat balls, so hopefully Four will be like that too. I wouldn't be surprised if he's extra hungry because of worms or from being underfed for so long. He's probably also learnt to stuff himself silly while he can. Dewi :) > The city we live in is small and none of the pet stores here carry such a > product. Orlando is about an half an hours drive away, maybe some of the [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] > > >> > Dewi you know I was wondering about the worms, and it made me think that it would be worth considering to go ahead and put some sedation in his food and get him to the vet, get him wormed, and his teeth and his wound worked on then he could get a IV while out of antibiotics to get him started, but I am just wondering , Lee > The next best thing or perhaps better, would be lean ground beef from > the butcher, or something similar. I actually get the pet mince from [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > > > > >> > Dewi Lee I asked Dr. Mulero this during our first visit. He told me, after listening to my story and asking a lot, a real lot of questions, that the cat has too many things to overcome to do this. What I got out of it was that Four has to feel or believe or process the fact that when what is going to happen to him happens; surgery for his wound, neutering if necessary (he has a very busy tail so I can see to tell the doctor), possible shaving, pills, bathing, injections, possible boarding, he will be okay. That the people who are interacting with him are not bad guys, that human beings can be trusted. I believe that the project that the vet has given me, which is to have Four come to me and be comfortable, is a step towards him trusting the vet and the techs. I tried yesterday, as I petted him, to reach down torwards his belly starting to make him comfortable with me picking him up. He went into a crouch and on alert. There is a ways to go yet. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > you know I was wondering about the worms, and it made me think that it > would [quoted text clipped - 128 lines] >> > >> > >> > Dewi I just had and idea, do you have that worming solution for cats that you put on their fur? The one available at the vets here is called Profender spot-on (http://www.profender.com.au/). There are a couple flea spot on's that also kill worms (excluding tapeworm), such as Advocate (http://www.bayeranimal.com.au/default.aspx? Page=50&ItemId=3). I can't remember the other brand. You could try parting the fur on his neck and eventually dropping water on there while you pet him. He'll probably get used to this, and think you're a bit crazy ;). But when he's okay with it you could then try the Profender (or equivalent). If his pee doesn't reek like tomcat pee, Four may already be castrated. In which case the poor fella is an ex-pet. From his photo I don't remember him having those think cheek pads that tomcats develop, so hopefully he's already been snipped. I feel bossy or pushy by telling you all these things. I apologise if you think I am being this way. They're just ideas or things I've tried that may (or may not) be helpful. You can always ignore me. However it's done I'm certain Four get his vet treatment and have a loving forever home. :) Dewi -- Charleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >I just had and idea, do you have that worming solution for cats that > you put on their fur? The one available at the vets here is called > Profender spot-on (http://www.profender.com.au/). There are a couple > flea spot on's that also kill worms (excluding tapeworm), such as > Advocate (http://www.bayeranimal.com.au/default.aspx? > Page=50&ItemId=3). I can't remember the other brand. > You could try parting the fur on his neck and eventually dropping > water on there while you pet him. He'll probably get used to this, and > think you're a bit crazy ;). But when he's okay with it you could then > try the Profender (or equivalent). Dr. Mulero asked that I hold off on giving Four any meds for a while. I wish he hadn't asked that but he did. Helen also suggested the worming medication. I'll check with Dr. M again. > If his pee doesn't reek like tomcat pee, Four may already be > castrated. In which case the poor fella is an ex-pet. From his photo I > don't remember him having those think cheek pads that tomcats develop, > so hopefully he's already been snipped. His urine is rank, phew! But, what he is doing is peeing in a corner behind the Kitty Klubhouse and the smell may be that collection. My husband is home this week-end and we will take care of that situation. Four does use the litter box for his other business. Why one and not the other I don't know. Dewi, I believe that he is a former house pet. When he showed up here three years ago he was well fed, well groomed, very social. Was not about at night indicating he had a home to go to. It was only after he was injured that he became unattached. He is very furry, as Maine Coon Cats are so I am unable to determine if his cheek pads are thick or regular. > I feel bossy or pushy by telling you all these things. I apologise if > you think I am being this way. They're just ideas or things I've tried > that may (or may not) be helpful. You can always ignore me. However > it's done I'm certain Four get his vet treatment and have a loving > forever home. :) You are not bossy or pushy at all. I appreciate all the help I can get for him. My biggest asset for Four is that I love cats. But that is not helpful as far as his health and welfare is concerned. You and the rest of the RPCAer's who have jumped in are supporting and nurturing him with ideas, suggestions and direction. Four and I need it and appreciate it all very much. Thank you. I worry about being pushy as well but I want to put my thoughts down as they occur on the off chance they can help, blessedly it seems this cat has gotten himself one heck of a caring hoomin, Lee > I just had and idea, do you have that worming solution for cats that > you put on their fur? The one available at the vets here is called [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Dewi Dewi, you are not at all pusy or bossy. I appreciate your shared wisdom. You know what, your advice about putting meds on his neck that would spread for coverage was great. Then I was talking to someone who has a lot of experience dealing with cats and she brought up something that in my excitment to treat Four I never gave a thought to. The med would trickle down to his neck on onto his wound which might frighten him if it were cold or stinging. Never thought of that. And then if Four were to get to the vet shortly after it was administered it might alter the lab results of the wound field. Who would have thought!!! So that is on hold for now. If Four doesn't get to the vet soon I will ask about this the next time D. M and I talk. Both his urine and poop smell very, very strong. Phew!! As he was, I believe, owned before, I would think he was fixed, but from what all you folks have told me the indications are that he has not been. He turns away when I attemp to check out his back end. That is the same thing he does when I try to check out his neck. Things are coming together. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >I worry about being pushy as well but I want to put my thoughts down as >they [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> >> Dewi that does make sense, guess I am impatient for him to be better, I can't imagine your stress level, Lee > Lee I asked Dr. Mulero this during our first visit. He told me, after > listening to my story and asking a lot, a real lot of questions, that the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > wondering , Lee > > Dewi <widget4000@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:ad52fe5b-501f-48ae-9b84-36853bb8145b@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > >> The next best thing or perhaps better, would be lean ground beef from > >> the butcher, or something similar. I actually get the pet mince from [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >> > > >> > "Dewi" <widget4...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:6e71728f-8173-4321-bd53-29aecc66e7d4@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > >> > > Pet mince is minced meat that's packaged for pets, so it's cheaper > >> > > than minced meat from the butcher. I just assumed that you guys had [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > >> > > >> > >> > Dewi Well Lee, like most issues with Four we have over come some issues and not others. He is healthier than when he arrived here, he is much more confident. He has gained weight. He has a very comfortable interaction with one human and is working on being comfortable with David and Larry. His wound is definatly on the mend. He sleeps a lot, streched out in the open displaying the fact that he is secure in his surroundings. Those are the positive things. The issues that need to be resolved or are really close to being resolve are his toileting habits. Helen has been helping me understand. It may be that Four is uncastrated male and he is defacating arouund the porch to mark his territory. In case it was simpler than that I went to the feed store and purchased a mixing trough 3 feet long and 2 feet wide to accomadate his size, put it on the porch, fulled it with dirt and it is there as the second litter box. I still don't know where he is urinating, no evidence of it anywere and he drinks lots and lots of water. I'm thinking that it is in the KK again and the new carpet is absorbing it all. Ugh. A goal to be reached that I thought was not possible to achive is happening before my amazed eyes. There are a number ways that we could get Four into the for his trip to the vet. The sedative route was ruled out or to be condidered as the last resort, Dr. M.'s reason's made sense. The next was to get Four to a place in his behavior and confidence where I can pick him up. While Four lets me pet him almost all over and ruffle up his fur he will not let me put my hands beyond the curve where his belly starts. It will take a long time I fear for this to happen. And I must admit that I am afraid of his strength and what damage he could do with those back legs and claws that have not been trimmed for thee years. Which brings us to what I thought would not happen. Four loves the crate! He spends hours in it and on top it. This morning I took away the towel that was covering it and the wire door. It didn't make a difference to him. I walked past thinking he would hop out, didn't happen. What this means is that with few more days of him being comfortable with me near the crate and squating in front of it while he is in it I can close the door and whisk him to the clinic!!!!!!! This is not a guarentee it will happen, it is what I think based on what I see. Four is not dumb and his instinct will tell him to take care of himself. I will go slow as I will have only on chance. It is doubtfull he will allow himself to be put in the same situation again. Hope this happens. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > that does make sense, guess I am impatient for him to be better, I can't > imagine your stress level, Lee [quoted text clipped - 186 lines] >> >> > >> >> > >> > Dewi it all sounds so wonderful, it is also very exciting, and we are now feeding another kitten, why oh why do people not fix, Lee > Well Lee, like most issues with Four we have over come some issues and not > others. He is healthier than when he arrived here, he is much more [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > >> > wondering , Lee > >> > Dewi <widget4000@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:ad52fe5b-501f-48ae-9b84-36853bb8145b@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > >> >> The next best thing or perhaps better, would be lean ground beef from > >> >> the butcher, or something similar. I actually get the pet mince from [quoted text clipped - 147 lines] > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > Dewi > A goal to be reached that I thought was not possible to achive is happening > before my amazed eyes. There are a number ways that we could get Four into > the for his trip to the vet. The sedative route was ruled out or to be > condidered as the last resort, Dr. M.'s reason's made sense. What were his reasons? If you've already posted about them, sorry, but I guess I missed it. I'm curious. > Which brings us to what I > thought would not happen. Four loves the crate! He spends hours in it and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > him being comfortable with me near the crate and squating in front of it > while he is in it I can close the door and whisk him to the clinic!!!!!!! That would be *so* great! > This is not a guarentee it will happen, it is what I think based on what I > see. Four is not dumb and his instinct will tell him to take care of > himself. I will go slow as I will have only on chance. It is doubtfull he > will allow himself to be put in the same situation again. Does the trap door close quickly? If so, it seems like you wouldn't need that much time to do it - it would be closed before he had a chance to figure out what you were up to. Or is it just a regular crate, rather than a spring-loaded trap? Well, I remember that he didn't want to get trapped in the porch, either. He toppled all those phone books in his frenzy to get out of there. And now look at him - he loves it! So he might not be quite so outraged at being trapped in the crate. Maybe at first, but he seems like a cat who gets over things. Purrs for a successful outcome! Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > > > A goal to be reached that I thought was not possible to achive is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > What were his reasons? If you've already posted about them, sorry, but > I guess I missed it. I'm curious. Joyce, I had not posted the reasons. There are two. One having to do with what would happen here at the house and the other that would happen at the clinic. The way the Kitty Klubhouse is built there is a place in it that Four could go after being sedated and fall into his sleep that I could not reach him. My husband is not available during the day. Our room mate may be or may not be, he has his own business which he runs from the house and is usually out on calls to clients. David and I went over this two week-ends ago and it is just not possible for one person to get to that area. And there is no way to block that area off. The other reason is that the sedative may interfer with lab readings. Four appears to be healthy, the wound not withstanding, but who knows what he may have. The fewer problems brought to the table the easier it will be to deal with the situation. > > Which brings us to what I > > thought would not happen. Four loves the crate! He spends hours in it [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > being trapped in the crate. Maybe at first, but he seems like a cat who > gets over things. Your comments make me think of the word ADAPTABLE, he is that for sure. The crate is just a plain regular push the door closed crate. In thinking of it, it seems as though what would work would be to either have my leg brush the door closed and then I lock it or for me to approach the crate from the side and swing the door from where he can't see me. I'll work on this. > Purrs for a successful outcome! > > Joyce Thanks for the information. I called around and pet mince is not carried here. I will use the ground hamburg as you suggested. Yes, it is very possible that he is stuffing himself because he is used to doing that when he had the chance to. Except for his reluctance to eat the kibble he eats everything and anything. He did eventually eat the dry food but now I soften it for him. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > The next best thing or perhaps better, would be lean ground beef from > the butcher, or something similar. I actually get the pet mince from [quoted text clipped - 111 lines] >> >> >> > Dewi <snip> >Except for his reluctance to eat the kibble he eats > everything and anything. He did eventually eat the dry food but now I soften > it for him. > -- It does sound like he could have teeth or mouth problems. It makes me feel really sorry for strays and the like. They're hungry enough as it is and have to deal with mouth problems, worms, injuries and cold weather. The cards are really stacked against them. Dewi > Hi All. Four is doing so well. He is content, I didn't say happy, on the > porch. He gets a can of cat food in the morning and again in the evening [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > that Four will become comfortable going into the crate and we can get him to > the clinic in the crate. He is a handsome guy and I enjoy my time with him. Thanks for the update - I'm a Four update addict ;-) So glad that he's doing ok and sounds like great advice to sit as far away as possible. No self respecting cat could resist coming over to investigate!! More good luck purrs coming your way! Susan M Otis and Chester Thank you Susan, Chester and Otis for the purrs. A few minutes ago I took him mid-day mackerel out to him. As I came through the door he looked at me as if to say, "It's about damn time!" He is so expressive. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Hi All. Four is doing so well. He is content, I didn't say happy, on >> the porch. He gets a can of cat food in the morning and again in the [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Susan M > Otis and Chester > Hi All. Four is doing so well. He is content, I didn't say happy, on the > porch. He gets a can of cat food in the morning and again in the evening > plus a protein meal of tuna or sardines or mackerel mid-day. He is beginning > to fill out a bit too. He lets me pet him along his whole body now. That's great!! > I met > with Dr. Mulero this morning hoping to start Four on his antibiotics. The [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > take time to do the right things in the right time frame and not create > problems or set backs. He sounds like a smart guy who knows what he's doing. > When Four has reached the point where he will sit or lie beside > me or in my lap and doze and or purr I have to call Dr.M. and tell him. > While this is going on I am to cover the cat carrier crate with a blanket as > well as putting a blanket in it and securing the door open. He is hoping > that Four will become comfortable going into the crate and we can get him to > the clinic in the crate. Any possibility the vet might come to you? Oh, maybe that's not feasible, since he will need the equipment, etc, at the office. Too bad, that would probably be a lot easier on Four. > He is a handsome guy and I enjoy my time with him. Would that be Four or Dr. Mulero? ;-) I'm really glad it's going so well. Your perseverance has been rewarded! Joyce Dr. Mulero is a great vet. There is a slight chance that he may come to the house. Funny Joyce: Four is handsome and I am sure Dr. Mulero's wife thinks he is very good looking too! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > > Hi All. Four is doing so well. He is content, I didn't say happy, on > > the [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Joyce > Hi All. Four is doing so well. He is content, I didn't say happy, on the > porch. He gets a can of cat food in the morning and again in the evening [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > comfortable going into the crate and we can get him to the clinic in the > crate. He is a handsome guy and I enjoy my time with him. > Hi All. Four is doing so well. He is content, I didn't say happy, on the > porch. He gets a can of cat food in the morning and again in the evening [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > comfortable going into the crate and we can get him to the clinic in the > crate. He is a handsome guy and I enjoy my time with him. We are purring you can accomplish your mission. He sounds like a wonderful cat. Thank you for your purrs. They are being put to good use. I'll try to get some pictures soon. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Hi All. Four is doing so well. He is content, I didn't say happy, on >> the porch. He gets a can of cat food in the morning and again in the [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > We are purring you can accomplish your mission. He sounds like a > wonderful cat.
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