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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / February 2008Update: KFC
She is improving slowly. After her pheasant goodies she seems stronger and takes a little bit of interest at mealtimes. She needed encouragement to eat every few hours so I took the last two days off work as leave time so I could do it. Today she has eaten some posh cat pate that I warmed up with some hot water to make it smoother so she could lap it. Twice. She will get some more if she wants it before I go to bed (soon.) I have to separate her into another room so she has time to eat it or Boyfie will scoff it after he has gobbled his meal down, he has become so greedy. I never noticed this before. I didn't stand over either of them to make sure each got their share in the morning as I was getting ready for work and feeding the chickens. It might be my fault because I didn't realise he might have knocked her off her food once he had eaten his because she is not well enough to bat him fiercely like she used to and that has made her become weak. I feel so guilty. Tweed do not feel guilty you see it now and that is what maters, still purring, Lee > She is improving slowly. After her pheasant goodies she seems stronger and > takes a little bit of interest at mealtimes. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Tweed On Dec 18, 4:11 pm, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > She is improving slowly. After her pheasant goodies she seems stronger and > takes a little bit of interest at mealtimes. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Tweed Oh Tweed, Don't feel badly. I know exactly how you feel. This is why we have 7 different spots for the cats. Most of them mind, but the younger boys (Marley and Smeagol) have a tendency to rush their food to get to someone else's (even when it's the same stuff). They are put in the second bedroom, and everyone else has their "spot". You've caught it now, and you know that she wasn't getting her food. Cats are such strange babies, aren't they? Barnabus is in early stage renal failure, and he gets baby food. I asked the vet about that, and she said at this point (he's 14) so long as he eats, and he does eat dry cat food occasionally. All the other cats want his baby food, so we are going to move his dining area to the bathroom, that's where he gets his breakfast, so he can have dinner there too I suppose. I've been making many offerings for KFC, as she is such a lovely lady. Also for you, as you seem to have your own plate rather full these days. Be well.. Smokie Darling (Annie) > On Dec 18, 4:11 pm, "Christina Websell" > <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Be well.. Kitty will now be fed in the lounge, and Boyfie in the kitchen and the door between will be firmly closed. If I feed them as soon as I get up - instead of eating my breakfast first - there should be enough time for KFC to eat while I am eating my breakfast, feeding and watering my chickens and taking a shower. Having the last three days off from work to encourage her to eat has really improved her. She refused all food on Saturday and Sunday. Annie, you have a very special place in my heart, as you sent INDN songs when I was told my dire prognosis in 05. I was blown away by that. I thought "is it possible that a Native American cares enough about me in England to send me some songs to help me recover?" Such are the wonders of this group. Could you possibly send me some songs to heal a loss of a long-time friend? She has not died. She is doing something I do not agree about and I told her. I tried to explain it kindly, so she would understand that it was not a wise idea. She went apeshit. I am now, apparently, "arrogant and rude* and she "regrets sending me my birthday present." I am so sad. Tweed <snip> > Could you possibly send me some songs to heal a loss of a long-time > friend? She has not died. She is doing something I do not agree [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Tweed Purrs for the loss of your friend, I hope she reconsiders her actions.  SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > <snip> >> Could you possibly send me some songs to heal a loss of a long-time [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Purrs for the loss of your friend, I hope she reconsiders her actions. So do I. The crux of the matter is that she is doing what I think is unethical. She knows it deep in her heart and this is why she is so angry with me - for pointing it out. Ah, well. She will take no advice from me, obviously. She will have to stew in her own juice. Such a pity as I know it will end in tears. Tweed but you did what a good friend does, you told her the truth and that is being a real friend, Lee > > <snip> > >> Could you possibly send me some songs to heal a loss of a long-time [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Tweed sorry to read this will purr for your heart, Lee > > On Dec 18, 4:11 pm, "Christina Websell" > > <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > Tweed Thanks. > sorry to read this will purr for your heart, Lee >> [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] >> >> Tweed On Dec 19, 1:27 pm, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > > On Dec 18, 4:11 pm, "Christina Websell" > > <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > Annie, you have a very special place in my heart, I am doubly blessed, then. as you sent INDN songs > when I was told my dire prognosis in 05. I was blown away by that. I > thought "is it possible that a Native American cares enough about me in > England to send me some songs to help me recover?" Always. When purrs and prayers do not seem enough, I sing our songs for whoever is in need. It soothes me, and I truly believe that it helps others. > Such are the wonders of this group. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > birthday present." > I am so sad. Ohhh, sweetie, every sunrise and every sunset. I will sing (in my hoarse -from a cold- voice, I hate winter sometimes) for your heart and spirit, and I will make offerings that she realizes what she is at risk of losing. You are much too kind to be rude. Here is hoping she realizes that you meant no harm, but spoke as a true friend. A little something for her, ... Estofis akusvpetv estemkv vte Vnokeckv Enhonretv. (never beg/begrudge a gift given in Love and Trust) Witeye Cehowv Eenkvpiyecicetv Enake Tur'wv atat Cenake Feke (Lest He turn His eyes from your Heart). and for you... Wites Cenake Puyvfekcv emetv ye Yekce Cukpe-rakko (May your Spirit give you the strength of Thousands). Smokie Darling (Annie) > A little something for her, ... > Estofis akusvpetv estemkv vte Vnokeckv Enhonretv. (never beg/begrudge > a gift given in Love and Trust) Witeye Cehowv Eenkvpiyecicetv Enake > Tur'wv atat Cenake Feke (Lest He turn His eyes from your Heart). > and for you... > Wites Cenake Puyvfekcv emetv ye Yekce Cukpe-rakko (May your Spirit > give you the strength of Thousands). Annie, what Nation is this language from? Joyce On Dec 19, 3:05 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > > A little something for her, ... > > Estofis akusvpetv estemkv vte Vnokeckv Enhonretv. (never beg/begrudge [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Joyce Creek (Southeastern US). They just don't seem to translate well. Smokie Darling (Annie) > Estofis akusvpetv estemkv vte Vnokeckv Enhonretv. (never > beg/begrudge [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Spirit > give you the strength of Thousands). Annie, I think the North American aboriginal tribes have a great heritage, and they speak a lot of wise words. 35 years ago, I read several books on the different tribes. I did a school project on them - about 5,000 words - quite unusual for a Brit, I think! I heard just the other day that my teacher kept that Project for more than 20 years, as an example to others! Keep up the songs, for all that need them. My heart sings along, even if I can't pronounce the words. SignatureMatSav "White man makes big fire, stands far away. Red man makes small fire, stands close." On Dec 19, 4:09 pm, "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot | pipex | dot | com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > "White man makes big fire, stands far away. Red man makes small > fire, stands close." Mat, Every day. It isn't about the words, it's about what's in your heart, regardless what language you speak. Even if I don't say in here, I often send up songs for those in need. As I told Tweed, I find it very soothing for myself, so it's a bit selfish too. Smokie Darling (Annie) I think it is not selfish to share in the comfort you are giving a friend... it strengthens them, and it strengthen you to continue to give, Lee > On Dec 19, 4:09 pm, "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot > | pipex | dot | com> wrote: > > "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:27e67610-b1ea-4189-9cb7-eedd3b84d015@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com ... > > > Estofis akusvpetv estemkv vte Vnokeckv Enhonretv. (never > > > beg/begrudge [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Smokie Darling (Annie) > I think it is not selfish to share in the comfort you are giving a friend... > it strengthens them, and it strengthen you to continue to give, Lee You know, I think that people have tried to tell me this before, but never quite this well. Thank you. So I don't have to feel selfish for it (yeah, this thought will last until I sleep, hee). SD (Annie) > > | pipex | dot | com> wrote: > > > "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com> wrote in [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > - Show quoted text - in fact it would be selfish if you did not do it, the creator gives us each special talents, for some it is to bring joy in creating a painting, for some it is to raise children to be good people, others teach, or care for animals, it is also my belief that giving comfort in the way you do is truly a special gift and therefore you are supposed to share it, Lee > > I think it is not selfish to share in the comfort you are giving a friend... > > it strengthens them, and it strengthen you to continue to give, Lee [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > SD (Annie) ...> On Dec 19, 4:09 pm, "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot > > > | pipex | dot | com> wrote: > > > > "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:27e67610-b1ea-4189-9cb7-eedd3b84d015@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com > > ... > > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > > > - Show quoted text - Even though the song wasn't for me, made me feel good. Printed it out and posting it around my house. > On Dec 19, 4:09 pm, "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot > | pipex | dot | com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Smokie Darling (Annie) > Even though the song wasn't for me, made me feel good. Printed it out and > posting it around my house. They do the same for me, even without the memories that go with most of them. Of all the things I've lost/misplaced over the years, storytime is the most sorely missed (don't have a "storyteller" close by), especially this time of year. Sometimes, honestly, Catnipped comes very close to being like one the storytellers with my clan, creating a circle in which her tales float and bounce along, with the tale (tail?) of the cat. I can just sit within that circle, and smell the coals (and whichever wood they've used for the "flavor/scent" that evening) that heated the "lodge" (for want of a better word) during storytime <sigh>. It's wonderful, alot like coming home. SD (Annie) - I do like to share the songs, when regular words fail, those always seem to help > > On Dec 19, 4:09 pm, "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot > > | pipex | dot | com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >> > Spirit > >> > give you the strength of Thousands). SD, I'm nosy... May I ask what Nation you are? My partner is Apache and Metis/Objibway, and grew up on the Ute res in CO. Aim >> Even though the song wasn't for me, made me feel good. Printed it out and >> posting it around my house. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >>>>> Spirit >>>>> give you the strength of Thousands). > SD, I'm nosy... May I ask what Nation you are? > My partner is Apache and Metis/Objibway, and grew up on the Ute res in CO. > > Aim Y'aren't nosy. Creek Nation. Live in Colorado, but have never been to a res here. The only Ute one I was aware of was at (through?) Mesa Verde, but the res itself is in New Mexico (you cross the state line going in there, at least I think you do, never went). Creek share a portion of the Cherokee Nation Reservation in Oklahoma. That's a misnomer really, as there are several (I really want to say many, but could be mistaken) nations that live there, and most of them did not get along with each other. My husband is 1/4 Apache, 1/4 Navajo and German/Irish. He looks more European than Indian though. His mom, however, she looks very much like a Navajo woman. Smokie Darling (Annie) > >> Even though the song wasn't for me, made me feel good. Printed it out and > >> posting it around my house. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > - Show quoted text - The res T grew up on was just outside a little town called Bondad, CO. It is in the 4 corners area, and may or may not still exist. The town only has 4 residents left - 1 family with a sheep ranch. T also looks white to those who don't know better, but to other Native folk, they assume mixed Native and white. In fact the mix is Native, Mexican and a little African American. Fascinating what genetics can do. Hey are you a reader of Sherman Alexie? Read the new one yet? T read it all in one sitting last night. >> SD, I'm nosy... May I ask what Nation you are? >> My partner is Apache and Metis/Objibway, and grew up on the Ute res in CO. [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >>>>>>> give you the strength of Thousands).- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - > The res T grew up on was just outside a little town called Bondad, CO. > It is in the 4 corners area, and may or may not still exist. The town [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Hey are you a reader of Sherman Alexie? Read the new one yet? T read it > all in one sitting last night. Sherman Alexie? Don't believe I've heard of that author. Oooh, wait, I saw Smoke Signals, he wrote that screenplay... Very strange, interesting but strange, but I think that was watching Graham Greene play a drunk Indian. Will have to see if our library has any books. If I like 'em, then I'll buy 'em for keeps (and rereading of course). Strangely, one of my more favorite books was called Haunted Mesa (I believe) by Louis L'amour of all people. Then there is the couple who write books. Had a series about ancient tribes, and witches. It travels back and forth in time from current day (and an anthropologist digging) to the people they are excavating. It's really good, and I can't remember their flippin' names... Ahhh, now I've got it, Kathleen O'Neal Gear and W. Michael Geer. The Anasazi Mysteries. Three books: The Visitant, Bone Walker, The Summoning God. I enjoyed them immensely, they are American Anthropologists, so they kinda know their stuff, not all of it mind, because no one really knows about the Anasazi, but then you know that. I could NOT wait for their books to come out with that series. It got better with each book and I was very disappointed when I realized they weren't going to write more in that series. I'm a ringer for my maternal grampie's mom, and she was 100% Creek. I'm pale, have reddish hair, and I sunburn. Just like she did. Seems that other indians know "what" I am, but most others don't. Occasionally the cheekbones give it away, but they aren't too high. Bondad, found it on Yahoo maps (lol). Looks to be dead center of the Ute Reservation (Southern Utes). Wanted to stop there, when I was driving a friend from France around, but she believed that on the reservations, the Indians were kept in "cages", and put on display for the tourists and locked up at night. Could not do a thing to convince her otherwise, so we didn't go onto the rez. Granted, she's also the one who took "new world" to be literal, and said to me, "This is not a New World, look at those rock formations, they can't have formed after Europe was formed, it had to be the same time or earlier." Bondad is not too far from Ignacio and Durango. If you go West of Bondad, you can see Mesa Verde National Monument (the cliff dwellings?). That is a beautiful place. Feels spooky in places. Y'all ever head this way, give me a head's up, and maybe I can do a semi tour (can't walk to the actual cliff dwellings anymore, but I still enjoy the area) at Mesa Verde, though I'm sure he's probably already been there, and y'all could do the walk throughs on the two big houses there. Now that's an amazing place, to think what they did, without a wheel, without technology. Just makes my heart fill to bursting when I see it. Smokie Darling (Annie) > Sherman Alexie? Don't believe I've heard of that author. Oooh, wait, > I saw Smoke Signals, he wrote that screenplay... Very strange, > interesting but strange, but I think that was watching Graham Greene > play a drunk Indian. No, that was The Education of Little Tree, another sweet movie, but I liked Smoke Signals better. If you haven't seen that, it's really worth seeing. > Bondad, found it on Yahoo maps (lol). Looks to be dead center of the > Ute Reservation (Southern Utes). Wanted to stop there, when I was [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > New World, look at those rock formations, they can't have formed after > Europe was formed, it had to be the same time or earlier." Goodness, she really did need to get out more! You were performing a public service by showing her around. :) > Y'all ever head this way, give me a head's up, and maybe I can do a > semi tour (can't walk to the actual cliff dwellings anymore, but I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > did, without a wheel, without technology. Just makes my heart fill to > bursting when I see it. I sure would love to see that! Joyce > > Sherman Alexie? Don't believe I've heard of that author. Oooh, wait, > > I saw Smoke Signals, he wrote that screenplay... Very strange, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > liked Smoke Signals better. If you haven't seen that, it's really worth > seeing. Eek, I have seen Smoke Signals. Because of Adam Beach (and Sundance truth be told). Didn't see the Education of Little Tree. In Smoke Signals, I do remember thinking, wow, that was a really small part for Greene to have played, and I only glanced at the character, other things caught my attention. Not sure who I confused for him, but it isn't the first time I've gotten people mixed up. > > Bondad, found it on Yahoo maps (lol). Looks to be dead center of the > > Ute Reservation (Southern Utes). Wanted to stop there, when I was [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Goodness, she really did need to get out more! You were performing a > public service by showing her around. :) I'd have been happier if she'd gone onto the reservation, any reservatioin, with me. So she could see it wasn't all wine and roses, but they weren't kept in cages at night either. After she got home, she said that because she was French, she just knew someone would attack her. > > Y'all ever head this way, give me a head's up, and maybe I can do a > > semi tour (can't walk to the actual cliff dwellings anymore, but I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I sure would love to see that! Have you seen photos at least? They aren't as good as the "real" thing, but they work. The only thing they don't show is how high up some of those dwellings were, with a sheer drop from the top of the mesa above. > Joyce > Hey are you a reader of Sherman Alexie? Read the new one yet? T read it > all in one sitting last night. I can't claim to have read any of his books, but I have seen The Business of Fancydancing, and of course, Smoke Signals. I really loved the latter movie and this is reminding me that I should see it again. Joyce this is the evidence of what I was saying, your songs bring major comfort and therefore you should share,.... ahhhh story tellers.... I think I was one in a former life... and am drawn to these people... can almost smell that they can do it, Lee > > Even though the song wasn't for me, made me feel good. Printed it out and > > posting it around my house. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > SD (Annie) - I do like to share the songs, when regular words fail, > those always seem to help ... > > > On Dec 19, 4:09 pm, "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot > > > | pipex | dot | com> wrote: > > >> "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:27e67610-b1ea-4189-9cb7-eedd3b84d015@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com ... > > >> > Estofis akusvpetv estemkv vte Vnokeckv Enhonretv. (never > > >> > beg/begrudge [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > >> > Spirit > > >> > give you the strength of Thousands). >I think the North American aboriginal tribes have a great >heritage, and they speak a lot of wise words. 35 years ago, I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Keep up the songs, for all that need them. My heart sings along, >even if I can't pronounce the words. A common problem among the various tribes is that many of the languages are dieing out as spoken tongues as the elders die. I'm not sure if it's still around, but as of about 5 years ago there was still a church in Southeastern Oklahoma that held services in Choctaw. One of my regrets is that I never tried to keep up with the Choctaw part of my heritage. When I was a kid one of my Aunts sent all of us nieces/nephews Choctaw/English dictionaries and would send us letters written in Choctaw. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit, Spot, Princess and Furby with loving memories of Rocky (RB) > Ohhh, sweetie, every sunrise and every sunset. I will sing (in my > hoarse -from a cold- voice, I hate winter sometimes) for your heart [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Wites Cenake Puyvfekcv emetv ye Yekce Cukpe-rakko (May your Spirit > give you the strength of Thousands). Annie, this is wonderful, thank you so much. It comforts me. May I try something? Vne afvcke hiyomat ceme maketv. (not very good muskoke, I hope you get my drift ;-) ) Tweed > > Ohhh, sweetie, every sunrise and every sunset. I will sing (in my > > hoarse -from a cold- voice, I hate winter sometimes) for your heart [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Tweed "I am happy now to speak with you"? <both hands to chest, right over left, both over heart. Small bow> Sulkee Mvto. (much thanks, literally). Smokie Darling (Annie) >> > Ohhh, sweetie, every sunrise and every sunset. I will sing (in my >> > hoarse -from a cold- voice, I hate winter sometimes) for your heart [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > (much thanks, literally). Nah, I was trying to say (and could not find a way to say it properly) that your post made me much happier in my mind. I got the happy bit right. I would love to speak with you, Annie, just once. I don't suppose it will happen. You in America, me in England. I would like to explain what your NDN songs meant in 05. Bless you Tweed > >> > and for you... > >> > Wites Cenake Puyvfekcv emetv ye Yekce Cukpe-rakko (May your Spirit [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > - Show quoted text - No worries, I'm glad to hear what you meant though. That touches me more than I can say. There are some very odd ways to express things, which has alot to do with why I put the English of what I mean after what I've written, and sometimes while I remember what the word sounded like, I can't find the right word when it needs spelling out. There are so many words for one thing, i.e., Soft= Lowvc'ke and Lowv'ckuse. The second is for "very soft", but in some instances it can be used for just "soft". Confused yet? If you wish, you may email me, this one works, and I check it. It isn't my primary, but I do look at it every couple of days (because of Google, I can't see your email, nor can I tell if it's got a "spam blocker" in it. You never know, I might just manage a bit a phone chat with ya, once we get the time difference figured out (lol). I don't mind if it's just a chat through email though. Smokie Darling (Annie) Smokie Darling (Annie) kirjoitti: > You never know, I might just manage a bit a phone chat with ya, once > we get the time difference figured out (lol). I don't mind if it's > just a chat through email though. > > Smokie Darling (Annie) Sorry to butt in, but you could also chat over a messenger program (yahoo or msn messenger for example), if you have headphones and a microphone or a usb-telephone handset. Wouldn't cost you guys any more than what it costs to surf the net for you, no long distance phone charges... SignatureChristine in Laitila, Finland christal63 (at) gmail (dot) com > Smokie Darling (Annie) kirjoitti: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > a usb-telephone handset. Wouldn't cost you guys any more than what it > costs to surf the net for you, no long distance phone charges... Aww, thank you, Christine, for this advice. I do have msn messenger but I do not have headphones or a microphone. Now I have discovered how to make phone calls abroad for little more than a local phone call, Annie and I may very well speak to each other for the first time. Annie has been away from the group for ages. I always wanted to say thank you to her for her NDN song for me when I was pretty well dying. Purrs and prayers work well. NDN songs add so much. If you asked me to explain why, I couldn't. Tweed On Dec 21, 12:36 pm, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> You never know, I might just manage a bit a phone chat with ya, once > >> we get the time difference figured out (lol). I don't mind if it's [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Aww, thank you, Christine, for this advice. I do have msn messenger but I > do not have headphones or a microphone. I have MSN as well, so we can probably IM in real time. Though I generally sign on invisible, because people I don't like know how to find me when I'm signed in as visible. I don't have a microphone, but I do have speakers. I used to have a headset (speaker and mic), but the cats thought it was a cool kitty toy and chewed it up. Little snot. Now I have discovered how to make > phone calls abroad for little more than a local phone call, Annie and I may > very well speak to each other for the first time. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Tweed I've always been here, just not posting much. I made a few people upset, without intending to, so I just stayed quiet. It seemed that whenever I posted they got mad and started sniping (not at me, not in here), then I'd get a "back channel" email telling me to just shut up, so I did. I always send purrs, prayers, and offerings when they are needed. I also send a song or two when things get really bad. You all have been a port in my storms, even when you didn't know I was here <g>. they work because they are real and felt by both the singer and the person for whom they are sung, Lee > > Smokie Darling (Annie) kirjoitti: > >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Tweed That is true. I was and am very touched and feel blessed when Annie sings for me. Resolute silence from the internet, still, from my friend. Maybe she got all she wanted from me. A few trips to England, expenses paid, a lot of coaching in English over 5 years and her excuse to say goodbye when I challenged her about why she seems to be going towards being a puppy farmer. I am gutted by being called "arrogant and rude" Am I? Maybe I am. I do have firm views which I sometimes post, is that arrogant and rude? Tweed > they work because they are real and felt by both the singer and the person > for whom they are sung, Lee [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> >> Tweed it is not arrogant to share with someone you care about the fact you see them making a mistake, unfortunately there are many who see this in the wrong way. it seems that what you have discovered is that this individual is those things she has accused you of, Lee > That is true. I was and am very touched and feel blessed when Annie sings > for me. [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >> > >> Tweed On Dec 28, 7:28 pm, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > That is true. I was and am very touched and feel blessed when Annie sings > for me. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tweed Firm and direct views are *VERY* different things to being arrogant and rude. You, like me, are very direct with your speech and call it how you see it. You only ever give your honest opinion, it is only ever with the best interest of the person at heart, and I (personally) value you for it and know that you would never deliberately hurt someone. I had a similar situation to the one that you experienced happen to me a few weeks ago in November. Someone who I considered a very good friend, completely out of the blue emailed me, called me an overbearing bullying control freak (yes, they were her exact words) and told me I had a major personality flaw (presumably that of being an overbearing bullying control freak) that I needed to address before I drove all my other friends away. To say I was completely blindsided was an understatement. This was a person who used me as a crutch for 3 years whilst she recovered from the death of her husband (who I found dead in the middle of the kitchen floor), who had me running back and fore to "help her out", and who severely tested my friendship over the 3 years with unreasonable demands that I tried to meet because I was trying to be the supportive friend. Like you, Tweed, I challenged her on one of her decisions a few weeks ago, where I told her what she needed to know, rather than what she wanted to hear, and it unleashed an unbelieveable backlash from her. She then cut off all contact with me, as did another mutual friend B who rang me up, told me what had been said by friend A, and then proceeded to tell me how to improve my personality. I figure that both of them can get lost. I am deeply saddened that I misjudged things so badly, but frined A has to make her own mistakes. I can only pray that those who suffer from her crap choices (her 2 kids and her 2 dogs) survive her stupid decisions without too much fall out. I don't need toxic friends like her or friend B in my life. If that makes me a bullying overbearing control freak, in the same way it makes you arrogant and rude, then I'm happy to be what I am. :o) And anyway, my cats and dog love me. :o) Helen M > I had a similar situation to the one that you experienced happen to me > a few weeks ago in November. Someone who I considered a very good > friend, completely out of the blue emailed me, called me an > overbearing bullying control freak [snip] > This was a person who used me as a crutch for 3 > years whilst she recovered from the death of her husband (who I found [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > needed to know, rather than what she wanted to hear, and it unleashed > an unbelieveable backlash from her. It sounds like she became very dependent on you, emotionally at least, if not also in practical terms (ie, getting you to do things for her that she believed she couldn't do for herself). Since dependency is ultimately a humiliating place to be if you're anything other than a child, you will come to resent the person you're dependent on. In fact, the person in the "caretaking" position is probably a bit resentful, too, having to parent a full-grown adult. But of course, when someone is going through a traumatic experience, you want to help them, and they probably do need more help than the average adult. Three years sounds like a long time, though. Enough time for roles (of caretaker and dependent) to become entrenched, and for resentments to grow, maybe underground - the silent, seething type. I'm not blaming either of you - I've been there myself, on both sides. I'm just not surprised that the situation eventually blew up. It might be that your friend is finally getting strong enough to not need to depend on someone else as much, and finally has the strength to express her anger at being in the one-down, being-told-what-to-do position. Again, I want to stress that I don't blame you for this. It all sounds very human to me. But it could just be a "stage of development" for her - and now she's going through a kind of "adolescence", where she needs to show you she's independent, maybe? Still, I can imagine that it must feel pretty thankless from your point of view. You did so much for her, and this is how she thanks you for it? Purrs, Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. > It sounds like she became very dependent on you, emotionally at least, > if not also in practical terms (ie, getting you to do things for her that [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Purrs, > Joyce Thanks for explaining how it might be from her POV Joyce - I hadn't thought of it like that and maybe that is indeed the case.. However, I think the best thing for all concerned is for her to now travel on her own path without me in her life at all. Her behaviour was *SO* unpleasant, sudden and unexpected, I don't see how I can bring myself to even talk to her at the moment, if ever, without being uncivil. Helen M keep in mind that just because you understand a bad behavior it does not mean you must tolerate it or even put yourself in the way of being mistreated again, Lee > > It sounds like she became very dependent on you, emotionally at least, > > if not also in practical terms (ie, getting you to do things for her that [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Helen M > keep in mind that just because you understand a bad behavior it does not > mean you must tolerate it or even put yourself in the way of being > mistreated again, Lee Yep - completely agree. I understand her poor behaviour, but I don't excuse it and am not prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt, because it was unacceptable and I still feel very hurt. Besides, my life has improved dramatically without her in it. I didn't realise what a toxic friend she was until I no longer had to deal with her behaviour. There is always a silver lining! ;o) Helen M it seems this is usually the case good for you, in my book it frees you and tweed up for some real friends who will appreciate you, Lee On Dec 29, 9:30 am, "Stormmee" <rgr...@consolidated.net> wrote: > keep in mind that just because you understand a bad behavior it does not > mean you must tolerate it or even put yourself in the way of being > mistreated again, Lee Yep - completely agree. I understand her poor behaviour, but I don't excuse it and am not prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt, because it was unacceptable and I still feel very hurt. Besides, my life has improved dramatically without her in it. I didn't realise what a toxic friend she was until I no longer had to deal with her behaviour. There is always a silver lining! ;o) Helen M > Thanks for explaining how it might be from her POV Joyce - I hadn't > thought of it like that and maybe that is indeed the case.. > However, I think the best thing for all concerned is for her to now > travel on her own path without me in her life at all. Her behaviour > was *SO* unpleasant, sudden and unexpected, I don't see how I can > bring myself to even talk to her at the moment, if ever, without being > uncivil. I can certainly understand that. It doesn't sound like it was the healthiest of friendships, so maybe this is a blessing in disguise. Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. > That is true. I was and am very touched and feel blessed when Annie sings > for me. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Am I? Maybe I am. I do have firm views which I sometimes post, is that > arrogant and rude? Is this the German friend you have written about on several occasions? If so, I'm really sorry! That friendship always sounded like a nice one to me. But I'm glad you said what you said. I have at times been a chickensh*t about expressing my opinions. Years ago a friend of mine got a kitten and told me she was going to have him declawed. I did say something, of course, and tried to educate her, but she kept saying, "It's a personal decision, it's my business," etc. So I backed down, and I still regret it. A few months after the declawing, they had to give the kitten away because my friend's partner had allergies and severe asthma, and couldn't tolerate the dander. GRRRRR. It's not like they didn't know about the allergies and asthma. Couldn't they have waited to see how that was going to work out, *before* getting the cat declawed?? (Assuming they were going to do it no matter what.) I still burn about that. In the future, if there is another situation like that one, I won't be quite so shy about it! Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. > That is true. I was and am very touched and feel blessed when Annie sings > for me. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Am I? Maybe I am. I do have firm views which I sometimes post, is that > arrogant and rude? I'm so sorry to read about this, Tweed. You two seemed to get on so very well, and she seemed like such a nice person. You have strong views and you're not shy about expressing them. That's not rude and arrogant, but if she has set her heart on something and can't see your take on the matter, she will interpret your behaviour as rude and arrogant. I hope, in time, she will think things through and come to see your viewpoint. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. >> That is true. I was and am very touched and feel blessed when Annie >> sings for me. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > she will interpret your behaviour as rude and arrogant. I hope, in time, > she will think things through and come to see your viewpoint. I hope she does. I truly can't understand why she thinks I am not telling her good advice via far more experience than she has, as a friend. Ah, well. She will have to just stew in her own juice when it all goes wrong. I have 30 years of practical experience and she has 3 mainly through the internet and hers is better than mine. This is so upsetting. We have been great friends for 5 years. This is the second time she went apeshit, and last time it was me that apologised when it was not my fault. I won't do it again. I am a good friend to have, frankly. I still have all my friends from 20 years ago. I am sad if we fall about about this but I know I am right and so does she. (not!) Tweed she does know you are right, and honestly that is probably what is upsetting her, Lee > >> That is true. I was and am very touched and feel blessed when Annie > >> sings for me. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Tweed Just going through my 4596 unread posts to find a few to delete and I noticed this. You are very insightful, Lee. I think you hit the nail right on the head. However I have some news. I waited 6 weeks in this stand-off with no communication. I debated with myself over what to do. I wondered if I still wanted her as a friend and could forgive her doubtful dog ethic - which surprised and shocked me- versus the hole in my life. So, with no intention whatsoever of apologising, I sent a brief e-mail to ask her if she still wanted to be friends. She does. She said we better not talk about it our mega-disagreement, perhaps it's not British. I know exactly what she means about this. However I said we will need to talk about it at some point but not yet as we are both too sensitive about it. At an early stage in our friendship we decided we must get The War out of the way so we discussed it ad infinitum. I was surprised to find how ashamed she was about it even though she was not born then. She is German and I am English. If we can do that, we can do this. Might take a while to get back the trust but we are taking it gradually, neither wanting to lose a great friendship for losing our temper a bit and being too proud to admit it. Maybe Annie's wonderful NDN songs for me not to lose my friend took a while to work ;-) Tweed > she does know you are right, and honestly that is probably what is > upsetting [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >> >> Tweed if you are meant to be friends it will work out... you have no idea how scared I was when I read the subject line for this... was fearing the worst for KFC, I am so glad it wasn't about her and I am pleased for you that you are both attempting to repair the friendship, Lee > Just going through my 4596 unread posts to find a few to delete and I > noticed this. You are very insightful, Lee. I think you hit the nail right [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > >> > >> Tweed Sorry, I did not mean to scare you. I promise to start a new thread if there is anything to say about Kitty's health. She is still doing quite well, ate quite a bit today, demands at least one bowl of lactose-free milk with cream stirred in daily. I'm glad I found that stuff. She loves it and with the cream in I think it prevents her losing weight with her CRF on/off appetite. She is still perky. As for the friendship, yes, we are both working to repair it. She did say to me once "I hope Germans will not be too rude for a Brit" before I went to visit her. So, her friend, who has a canoe, canoe-d us (I know it's not a word..) all round Hamburg on the river. It was lovleh ;-) When we got back to the big shed thingie where she keeps her canoe parked up, there was a chap there who was tending to his superior canoe. My German is not good but I could tell that what he was saying was negative to Ushi who had taken me out for for a little canoe trip. I didn't even have to paddle it myself! as N was paddling in the front and Ushi at the back so I just sat there enjoying it. What he apparently said was " Your canoe is cheap rubbish compared with mine, are you poor, or something?" in 10,000 words. OMG, how rude is that? I was surprised that he escaped without harm when I found out, but apparently it's fairly normal there. So yes, Germans can be very rude as perceived by a Brit. Tweed > if you are meant to be friends it will work out... you have no idea how > scared I was when I read the subject line for this... was fearing the [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] >> >> >> >> Tweed hers praying you never start that thread, and hoping your friendship can improve, Lee > Sorry, I did not mean to scare you. I promise to start a new thread if > there is anything to say about Kitty's health. She is still doing quite [quoted text clipped - 114 lines] > >> >> > >> >> Tweed > Sorry, I did not mean to scare you. I promise to start a new thread > if there is anything to say about Kitty's health. She is still [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Tweed It sounds like he was trying to compensate for a shortfall in another department. ;-) SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > It sounds like he was trying to compensate for a shortfall in another > department. ;-) You suspect he had oar envy? >> It sounds like he was trying to compensate for a shortfall in another >> department. ;-) > > You suspect he had oar envy? If that's what you want to call it. ;-) SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > However I have some news. I waited 6 weeks in this stand-off with no > communication. I debated with myself over what to do. I wondered if I > still wanted her as a friend and could forgive her doubtful dog ethic - > which surprised and shocked me- versus the hole in my life. > So, with no intention whatsoever of apologising, I sent a brief e-mail to > ask her if she still wanted to be friends. She does... > At an early stage in our friendship we decided we must get The War out of > the way so we discussed it ad infinitum. I was surprised to find how [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Maybe Annie's wonderful NDN songs for me not to lose my friend took a while > to work ;-) That is wonderful news. It would be terrible to lose a good friend over one disagreement, even if it's a big one. I hope you find a way through this. JOyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. > That is wonderful news. It would be terrible to lose a good friend over > one disagreement, even if it's a big one. I hope you find a way through > this. I think we will. We both know how important this friendship is. How many people would be prepared (when we only met on a poultry ng in 01) to come over to help me when my mother was found dead in 03? On the bus from Germany. No flying. I said no at first but I was glad she insisted. She was a wonderful comfort to me at that time. Tweed > <bastXXXette@sonic.net> wrote in message > > That is wonderful news. It would be terrible to lose a good friend over > > one disagreement, even if it's a big one. I hope you find a way through > > this. > I think we will. We both know how important this friendship is. How many > people would be prepared (when we only met on a poultry ng in 01) to come > over to help me when my mother was found dead in 03? On the bus from > Germany. No flying. > I said no at first but I was glad she insisted. She was a wonderful comfort > to me at that time. She certainly does sound like a keeper! Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. >> >> > and for you... >> >> > Wites Cenake Puyvfekcv emetv ye Yekce Cukpe-rakko (May your Spirit [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > Google, I can't see your email, nor can I tell if it's got a "spam > blocker" in it. I will definitely email you soon, in the next few weeks. > You never know, I might just manage a bit a phone chat with ya, once > we get the time difference figured out (lol). You have so many time zones in the USA! I am 6 hours ahead of my friend Bob in Michigan if that helps.. What is annoying for me as Brit is that I am going to bed as all the new messages arrive here on the group. You never know, it just might happen that we chat on the phone. I think it will. I have a secret way that I can bypass British Telecom with their huge charges for overseas telephone calls. I can phone Germany for 1p per minute and I might be able to phone USA for just a little more. It is not illegal, either. Tweed > "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1993@yahoo.com> wrote in message > You have so many time zones in the USA! I am 6 hours ahead of my > friend Bob in Michigan if that helps.. We have 4 time zones in continental USA. * Eastern time is 5 hours difference from the UK. * Central time (the eastern part of the Midwest states, including Michigan) is 6 hours, as you said. * Rocky Mountain time, which includes places like Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, is 7 hours. * Pacific, including where I am, is 8. I'm quite familiar with this as I used to call a friend in London. (She has since moved back to CA.) Then there's Hawaii, which I think is a 3-hour difference from California, so that would be 11 hours' difference from the UK. I'm not sure which time zone Alaska falls in, but I'm sure someone here knows the answer! Joyce > > "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1993@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > so that would be 11 hours' difference from the UK. I'm not sure which time > zone Alaska falls in, but I'm sure someone here knows the answer! Thanks for that information, Joyce. I will save it. It will prevent me from phoning anyone in the USA when they are still asleep ;-) Britain is so small that there is only a few minutes difference between the very south and very north. Tweed On Dec 21, 12:01 pm, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> >> > and for you... > >> >> > Wites Cenake Puyvfekcv emetv ye Yekce Cukpe-rakko (May your Spirit [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > I will definitely email you soon, in the next few weeks. Okay, I will keep checking. > > You never know, I might just manage a bit a phone chat with ya, once > > we get the time difference figured out (lol). [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > What is annoying for me as Brit is that I am going to bed as all the new > messages arrive here on the group. I write to 3 ladies in the UK, they are all about 7 hours ahead of me, so I believe you are too. > You never know, it just might happen that we chat on the phone. I think it > will. I have a secret way that I can bypass British Telecom with their huge [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Tweed Not illegal is good. Very good (lol). - Hide quoted text - > - Show quoted text - > > Ohhh, sweetie, every sunrise and every sunset. I will sing (in my > > hoarse -from a cold- voice, I hate winter sometimes) for your heart [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > (not very good muskoke, I hope you get my drift ;-) ) Oops, missed this, at least you try. I'm not as good with it as I used to be. Not alot of practice. > Tweed <snip> > Could you possibly send me some songs to heal a loss of a long-time friend? > She has not died. She is doing something I do not agree about and I told [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Tweed Lots of purrs for you, Christina, Polonca and Soncek KFC is still on our purr and prayer list. > KFC is still on our purr and prayer list. Thanks, Dan. She is not out of the woods yet, but so much better than she was last weekend. Tweed > She is improving slowly. After her pheasant goodies she seems > stronger and takes a little bit of interest at mealtimes. I'm glad to hear it! Purrs continuing. > I have to separate her into another room so she has time to eat it > or Boyfie will scoff it after he has gobbled his meal down, he has > become so greedy. That sounds like a good idea. She probably eats a lot more slowly than he does at this point. (Maybe always?) > I never noticed this before. I didn't stand over either of them to make > sure each got their share in the morning as I was getting ready for work and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > become weak. > I feel so guilty. This wasn't necessarily the problem. She does have CRF, so that is more likely why she's weak. And now that you've seen the problem, you can make sure she gets enough food in the future. I've sometimes had this problem with cats - some eat slowly and others scarf down food and then go searching for someone to butt out of the way. Segregation during eating has at times been necessary. Fortunately, my 3 seem to have worked it out and they're all getting plenty. Smudge might get picked on at times, but when it comes to food, nobody gets in her way! Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. I am glad and I will continue to purr for her. --Fil > > She is improving slowly. After her pheasant goodies she seems > > stronger and takes a little bit of interest at mealtimes. part of the many reasons we free feed is so that everyone has a chance, and they all know there is always more, except for Tiger who has EBS. Lee > > She is improving slowly. After her pheasant goodies she seems > > stronger and takes a little bit of interest at mealtimes. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > -- > To send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. If I free fed, Boyfie would be a balloon. He will eat *everything* Kitty now has to have posh food and she will need to be in another room to be able to eat it. He gets his own good food and can smell her special stuff through the door, so he will leave his and moan "let me in there, I want that." through the crack in the door. He has another think coming if he thinks I will let him. The boy is greedy. I have got his measure ;-) > part of the many reasons we free feed is so that everyone has a chance, > and [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> -- >> To send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. > If I free fed, Boyfie would be a balloon. He will eat *everything* > Kitty now has to have posh food and she will need to be in another room to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > crack in the door. He has another think coming if he thinks I will let > him. The boy is greedy. I have got his measure ;-) I think he is Caliban's soul-mate! :) (I was going to say soul *brother*, but that has an entirely different connotation.) Joyce > > If I free fed, Boyfie would be a balloon. He will eat *everything* > > Kitty now has to have posh food and she will need to be in another room to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I think he is Caliban's soul-mate! :) (I was going to say soul *brother*, > but that has an entirely different connotation.) Boyfie does sound like Caliban in the food department. I've tried shutting the cats in separate rooms at feeding time, but while Caliban is happily inhaling his own food, Miranda is worried about the closed door and pesters me to open it. I try to tell her it's shut to protect her own food, but she can't eat if the door is shut. She takes such a long time to eat, anyway, I'd have to keep Caliban shut in most of the time for this to work. SignatureMarina >> > If I free fed, Boyfie would be a balloon. He will eat *everything* >> > Kitty now has to have posh food and she will need to be in another [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > eat, anyway, I'd have to keep Caliban shut in most of the time for this to > work. Kitty does not really like me shutting her away either. She is used to eating alongside Boyfie and will leave her food after she's had a few mouthfuls if I don't stay with her in another room while she takes 2 hours. It's difficult. I have to work. He is such a hoover he will scarf his in a nano-second and then muscle in on hers because she takes so long. I still have my dog cage and when I have to feed Willow something special, I just put the food in the middle of that floor and the others whine but can't get to it. No other way really. If they scratch the door, Willow will stop eating. >>> > If I free fed, Boyfie would be a balloon. He will eat *everything* >>> > Kitty now has to have posh food and she will need to be in another [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > He is such a hoover he will scarf his in a nano-second and then muscle in > on hers because she takes so long. > If I free fed, Boyfie would be a balloon. He will eat *everything* > Kitty now has to have posh food and she will need to be in another room to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > through the crack in the door. He has another think coming if he thinks > I will let him. The boy is greedy. I have got his measure ;-) Heheh He just wants to be like his sweetest, Mimi - nice & round :) One of DH's stepsisters has a cat, Kirby, who weighs in at around 22lb. He's much rounder than Mimi - looks like a stripey round ottoman with a tail... Signature-- The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)© email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep > She is improving slowly. After her pheasant goodies she seems stronger > and takes a little bit of interest at mealtimes. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Tweed Don't feel guilty. We simply can't always pick up on things. I'm glad you are seeing improvement. That is the important thing. More purrs on the way. Don't feel guilty. You just didn't see what was going on.I would do the same thing. Feed the cats and go get dressed or do other things. We noticed Abby was loosing weight and we started watching them eat. We finally learned Cinnamon was eating her food and then go and push Abby out of her dish. Now they eat in separate rooms with the door closed. Ann Signatureread Sam's blog at http://kittens-3.blogspot.com/ > She is improving slowly. After her pheasant goodies she seems stronger > and takes a little bit of interest at mealtimes. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Tweed > More purrs on the way. Don't feel guilty. You just didn't see what was > going on.I would do the same thing. Feed the cats and go get dressed or do [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > finally learned Cinnamon was eating her food and then go and push Abby > out of her dish. Now they eat in separate rooms with the door closed. That's what I am doing now. Boyfie gets his meal in the kitchen and KittyFC gets hers in the living room with the door firmly closed between. Although she has improved since last weekend, she is not right yet. I would like to see her eat her breakfast and dinner all up since she can now eat it in peace but she isn't doing. Yeah, I know what people will say. Cats never eat all their food, they prefer to graze. This does not apply to KFC. She was semi-feral for so long that she always eats everything immediately. There are no leftovers ever. She was fed by a neighbour for a long time with the leftovers from their dinner before she came to me. She got used to mashed potatoes, gravy, and brussels sprouts, or carrots, or cabbage and she loved it. I will try her on this. Yes, I know it's not an ideal diet.. but for now she can have anything at all that she will eat. Tweed >> More purrs on the way. Don't feel guilty. You just didn't see what >> was going on.I would do the same thing. Feed the cats and go get [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Tweed Still sending purrs for KFC to improve. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Don't worry about what others say, it is important that she gets nourishment. Time to put her back on "normal" food when she is eating. >> More purrs on the way. Don't feel guilty. You just didn't see what was >> going on.I would do the same thing. Feed the cats and go get dressed or [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Tweed She ate a bit of mashed potato with cabbage and gravy today after refusing most of her posh food apart from licking the gravy that was on it. I am really worried about her now. She is very keen on the lactose-free milk that I got her. I don't think she has lost much weight, when I pick her up to take her into the other room to eat she doesn't feel lighter. She never weighed more than 4 pounds anyway so it's hard to judge. She is a very tiny cat. > Don't worry about what others say, it is important that she gets > nourishment. Time to put her back on "normal" food when she is eating. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> >> Tweed Thinking positive thoughts for KFC. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > She ate a bit of mashed potato with cabbage and gravy today after refusing > most of her posh food apart from licking the gravy that was on it. I am [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >>> >>> Tweed > She ate a bit of mashed potato with cabbage and gravy today after > refusing most of her posh food apart from licking the gravy that was on [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > more than 4 pounds anyway so it's hard to judge. She is a very tiny > cat. I'm sorry to hear she isn't eating better. I am keeping you in my thoughts and prayers. > That's what I am doing now. Boyfie gets his meal in the kitchen and KittyFC > gets hers in the living room with the door firmly closed between. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Tweed We continue to send lots of purrs and best wishes for KFC, Polonca and Soncek > She is improving slowly. After her pheasant goodies she seems stronger > and takes a little bit of interest at mealtimes. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Tweed I've never known a female cat who wouldn't forgo food in order for a younger, or male cat to eat. It's instinctive in them; and since you've not had cats for very long (and dogs are much different eaters) you could not have known. I always have to watch mine because they'll walk away from their food if the boys look interested in it (and the boys, like all male teenagers, are bottomless pits). Hugs, CatNipped Still purring and praying > She is improving slowly. After her pheasant goodies she seems stronger > and takes a little bit of interest at mealtimes. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Tweed |
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