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Christina Websell - 16 Dec 2007 17:23 GMT
Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great age.
I have been down this road before with my old dogs, of offering tempting
little morsels of various wonderful foods, only to have them rejected and
for me to get more and more despairing as they reach end-stage CRF.

Kitty cannot afford not to eat.  She is getting frailer and frailer, as all
CRF patients do as their damaged kidneys excrete more protein than they can
take in.  I know she did this once before a few months ago but with purrs
she came back so I am asking for a few more, please.

Yesterday, because she didn't want to eat by evening, I bought her some
lactose-free milk which she drank.  I could only get semi-skimmed, I wanted
to get full-fat to get some calories into her. but apparently full fat
lactose free milk is not made.  Dammit.
She only licked at her breakfast of fish pate this morning which she
normally loves.  She spent the day mostly asleep in front of the fire and at
one time my heart nearly stopped when I checked on her, I thought she was
dead - by her position and expression.
She ate maybe a tablespoon of chicken this evening, but hey I have a
pheasant cooking in the oven that my neighbour gave me and she has always
loved pheasant.

Yeah, I know :-(((((

Tweed
leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 16 Dec 2007 17:26 GMT
> Yeah, I know :-(((((
>
> Tweed

We can only send majorly huge purrs and prayers for such a fiesty
little girl to rally once again.

{{{HUGS}}}

Helen M
Lesley - 16 Dec 2007 17:36 GMT
On 16 Dec, 09:23, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:

> She ate maybe a tablespoon of chicken this evening, but hey I have a
> pheasant cooking in the oven that my neighbour gave me and she has always
> loved pheasant.

Pheasant? My cats say KFC and BF are spoiled as they never get
pheasant! I reckon KFC saw that pheasant and thought "What can I do to
make sure I get a big share of that? I know! I'll make the hoomin
think she needs to tempt my apetite with some delicacies!"

Hope the old girl enjoys her pheasant!

And of course we are sending purrs that she just wasn't hungry and
it's nothing serious

Keep us posted

Lesley

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Christina Websell - 16 Dec 2007 18:11 GMT
> On 16 Dec, 09:23, "Christina Websell"
> <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>
> Keep us posted

I appreciate your post because I know you wanted to comfort me. but she
never holds out for great food, she lived outside for so long alone that any
food just disappears down her throat.
She is ill, really ill.  She fell off her footstool today, a low upholstered
thingie that she likes to sit on in front of the fire if her bed next to it
does not please her.
I am holding out on the pheasant just yet as she just ate another two tsps
of chicken.

Tweed
Granby - 16 Dec 2007 18:19 GMT
It is hard when the end can be near, for people or cats.  Will be purring
for her and you.

>> On 16 Dec, 09:23, "Christina Websell"
>> <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>
> Tweed
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 16 Dec 2007 21:16 GMT
> She is ill, really ill.  She fell off her footstool today, a low upholstered
> thingie that she likes to sit on in front of the fire if her bed next to it
> does not please her.
> I am holding out on the pheasant just yet as she just ate another two tsps
> of chicken.

Purrs for KFC to get past her sick feelings and start eating again.
Or to pass peacefully, if this is her time.

I forget, are you giving her subq fluids? If not, that might help right
now.

And don't hold out on the pheasant! If you think she'll eat it, give
her some! Even if she ate a bit of chicken. Right now is the time to give
her *whatever* you think she'll want to eat.

Purrs,
Joyce

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Christina Websell - 16 Dec 2007 23:08 GMT
> > She is ill, really ill.  She fell off her footstool today, a low
> > upholstered
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> I forget, are you giving her subq fluids? If not, that might help right
> now.

No, we have not reached that yet, although it might be the next step.

> And don't hold out on the pheasant! If you think she'll eat it, give
> her some! Even if she ate a bit of chicken. Right now is the time to give
> her *whatever* you think she'll want to eat.

Of course I gave her some!  How could I not?   Little torn up pieces of
still warm roasted pheasant breast which she ate.  I didn't give her very
much as it is easy to sicken a CRF patient if you do, from my experience.
The leg portions went into the slow-cooker,  I guess she will be having that
tomorrow.  Good job I've got three more pheasants to go at, eh?
It's months since I was gifted with a brace of pheasants and now I get two
inside a week just when I need them.  Amazing.

Tweed
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 16 Dec 2007 23:46 GMT
>> And don't hold out on the pheasant! If you think she'll eat it, give
>> her some!

> Of course I gave her some!  How could I not?   Little torn up pieces of
> still warm roasted pheasant breast which she ate.

Oh, sorry - I misunderstood you when you said you were "holding out" on
the pheasant. In the US, that would mean that you were waiting to see if
she'd eat something else before giving her your good stuff. Sounds like
you meant to say something else entirely. And I'm glad she ate it!

Continuing the purrs,
Joyce

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Christina Websell - 17 Dec 2007 00:32 GMT
> >> And don't hold out on the pheasant! If you think she'll eat it, give
> >> her some!
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>
> Continuing the purrs,

You didn't misunderstand, Joyce, I was holding out on the pheasant to tempt
her with if she got worse, but when she looked up when I was eating it I
gave her some.  It's difficult to know when to give the "ultimate food"

Tweed
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 17 Dec 2007 01:15 GMT
> You didn't misunderstand, Joyce, I was holding out on the pheasant to tempt
> her with if she got worse, but when she looked up when I was eating it I
> gave her some.  It's difficult to know when to give the "ultimate food"

Is pheasant KFC's ultimate food? I guess it's tied with collared doves,
isn't it? But you don't have much control over when those come into your
house... *Boyfriend*, yes, I'm talking to you. :)

Joyce
Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 00:12 GMT
it is my heartfelt belief that there are NO coincidences only circumstances,
Lee

> > > She is ill, really ill.  She fell off her footstool today, a low
> > > upholstered
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>
> Tweed
Christina Websell - 17 Dec 2007 01:39 GMT
What do you mean by circumstances?
Kitty needed a pheasant and suddenly she got four, the first two just before
she was ill.
How amazing is that? Normally I get one brace (two birds) per year given to
me.

Tweed

> it is my heartfelt belief that there are NO coincidences only
> circumstances,
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>>
>> Tweed
Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 15:45 GMT
in my belief system, you got the birds, and indeed extra because you are a
caring loving cat mom who wants her cat to thrive and be comfortable for her
remaining time here on earth, The G*D that I believe in rewards this kind of
love and intentions, Lee
> What do you mean by circumstances?
> Kitty needed a pheasant and suddenly she got four, the first two just before
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> >>
> >> Tweed
Suz - 17 Dec 2007 14:59 GMT
On Dec 16, 1:11�pm, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:

> > On 16 Dec, 09:23, "Christina Websell"
> > <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> - Show quoted text -

Purrs across the Atlantic.

Suz&Spicey
Adrian A - 16 Dec 2007 18:33 GMT
> On 16 Dec, 09:23, "Christina Websell"
> <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>
> Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

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Stormmee - 16 Dec 2007 17:36 GMT
buy a pheasant if need be, Lee, praying for both of you,
> Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great age.
> I have been down this road before with my old dogs, of offering tempting
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>
> Tweed
Christina Websell - 16 Dec 2007 18:35 GMT
Thank Bast, my neighbours brought me 2 pheasants last Saturday and today
"voila!" the terrier men came again for a rat hunt and brought me another 2
with a Christmas card as an appreciation for letting them bring their
terriers here to rat.
We will be eating pheasant for the foreseeable future ;-)  I just wish they
came already plucked and gutted though..

Tweed

> buy a pheasant if need be, Lee, praying for both of you,
>> Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great age.
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>>
>> Tweed
Stormmee - 16 Dec 2007 18:47 GMT
my sister raises chickens and after the first kill, she dispensed with
plucking in the traditional sense and skinned them, says she won't ever go
back, Lee, drooling in bird envy of KFC
> Thank Bast, my neighbours brought me 2 pheasants last Saturday and today
> "voila!" the terrier men came again for a rat hunt and brought me another 2
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> >>
> >> Tweed
Christina Websell - 16 Dec 2007 23:49 GMT
I must admit, kind as the intention is, the thought of having to gut and
pluck two pheasants in a short time does not fill me with joy after work..
So I skinned the one we had today.  I had not skinned one before, but as I
began to pluck this dead-for-a-week fowl the skin began to tear so I thought
what the h*ll, I'll have a go at skinning it.  Very successful. I had to
cook it in foil and rub it with olive oil. It was delicious.
Shooting pheasants is not something I would want to do myself - but given
that it has already been done it is the least I can do to eat them so they
are not wasted.  Another three to go, then ;-)

I asked my colleagues what they would do if they were presented with a brace
of pheasants "still in the feather" as we call it.  It varied from "scream
loudly" through "faint" to "throw them away."  Not one even considered
preparing them for the table.  They said it was *gross*
I suppose it seems like that if everything meat-wise they buy comes in neat
pieces from the supermarket or oven-ready chickens.

Tweed

> my sister raises chickens and after the first kill, she dispensed with
> plucking in the traditional sense and skinned them, says she won't ever go
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>> >>
>> >> Tweed
leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 17 Dec 2007 00:01 GMT
> I asked my colleagues what they would do if they were presented with a brace
> of pheasants "still in the feather" as we call it.  It varied from "scream
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Tweed

Reminds me of a Pheasant story. This *actually* happened...

Before I went to Belize, we were trying to raise publicity to get
funds to go. The BBC did some filming of us for one of their
programmes. They sent a psuedo wildlife presenter (complete
lightweight, I still can't stand the woman) called Michaela Strachen
to present the film piece.

Tico, our tame Ocelot was refusing to co-operate and had gone to bed
as he was very bored after being filmed all day. So, to tempt him, I
went and got his favourite foods - a dead rabbit and a fully feathered
pheasant, to wind him up for the camera. Only problem was, that whilst
the rabbit was thawed and warm, the pheasant was frozen.... So, as I
was doing the piece to camera, I told Michaela Strachen to run up and
down Tico's cage like a complete idiot, with the dead rabbit in one
hand, and the frozen pheasant in the other - the idea being that it
would excite Tico enough to make him get out of bed....

God knows what Michaela was doing with the d*mn things, because she
managed to get the frozen pheasant stuck in a tree. So, being the evil
b*tch I am (I told you I can't stand the woman) I made her try and get
it down by pulling on its tail feathers. Needless to say, it went from
the sublime to the ridiculous when I actually had a camera man film
her doing it.

I'll never ever forget the look of Michaela Strachens face at the end
of the *episode* when she admitted she was a vegetarian!!

::sniggers::

Helen M
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 17 Dec 2007 00:12 GMT
> Before I went to Belize, we were trying to raise publicity to get
> funds to go. The BBC did some filming of us for one of their
> programmes. They sent a psuedo wildlife presenter (complete
> lightweight, I still can't stand the woman) called Michaela Strachen
> to present the film piece.

> Tico, our tame Ocelot was refusing to co-operate and had gone to bed
> as he was very bored after being filmed all day. So, to tempt him, I
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> hand, and the frozen pheasant in the other - the idea being that it
> would excite Tico enough to make him get out of bed....

> God knows what Michaela was doing with the d*mn things, because she
> managed to get the frozen pheasant stuck in a tree. So, being the evil
> b*tch I am (I told you I can't stand the woman) I made her try and get
> it down by pulling on its tail feathers. Needless to say, it went from
> the sublime to the ridiculous when I actually had a camera man film
> her doing it.

> I'll never ever forget the look of Michaela Strachens face at the end
> of the *episode* when she admitted she was a vegetarian!!

> ::sniggers::

LOL, you're evil! :)

Joyce
sam - 18 Dec 2007 03:18 GMT
>  > Before I went to Belize, we were trying to raise publicity to get
>  > funds to go. The BBC did some filming of us for one of their
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>
> Joyce
Yeah, but that's why we love Helen!

Sam
Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 00:18 GMT
that made my day, Lee
> > I asked my colleagues what they would do if they were presented with a brace
> > of pheasants "still in the feather" as we call it.  It varied from "scream
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>
> Helen M
Adrian A - 17 Dec 2007 10:44 GMT
>> I asked my colleagues what they would do if they were presented with
>> a brace of pheasants "still in the feather" as we call it.  It
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> Helen M

I hope that clip turns up on one of the outtake programmes sometime, I'd
love to see that. <eg> I don't think much of her either.
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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 17 Dec 2007 00:04 GMT
> Shooting pheasants is not something I would want to do myself - but given
> that it has already been done it is the least I can do to eat them so they
> are not wasted.  Another three to go, then ;-)

Can you freeze the other 3 until you're ready to cook them? I guess
you would have to skin them first.

> I asked my colleagues what they would do if they were presented with a brace
> of pheasants "still in the feather" as we call it.  It varied from "scream
> loudly" through "faint" to "throw them away."  Not one even considered
> preparing them for the table.  They said it was *gross*
> I suppose it seems like that if everything meat-wise they buy comes in neat
> pieces from the supermarket or oven-ready chickens.

Yep, we city folk are pretty spoiled in that way. But it's a weird
contradiction, isn't it? On one hand, we're grossed out by a dead
animal that is very clearly an *animal* - still having its head, skin,
feathers, or whatever else it had in life. On the other, we're all too
happy to eat the dead animal when it's been cleaned and cooked.

I'm not going to pretend I don't have that contradiction myself. I'm
also not so sure I'll resolve it any time soon, since I have little desire
to learn how to prepare a kill for a meal, nor am I about to become a
vegetarian. I guess if at some point I am ever forced into that choice,
I'll deal with it then. Most likely, I would find a way to get used to
dealing with dead animals. I'd have to be in a close-to-starvation state
to be forced into that choice to begin with - in which case I would not
turn down *any* source of food.

Joyce
Christina Websell - 17 Dec 2007 01:15 GMT
> > Shooting pheasants is not something I would want to do myself - but
> > given
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> Can you freeze the other 3 until you're ready to cook them? I guess
> you would have to skin them first.

I am in the fortunate position that my freezer is full.  So it's pheasant,
pheasant, pheasant for a while

> > I asked my colleagues what they would do if they were presented with a
> > brace
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> feathers, or whatever else it had in life. On the other, we're all too
> happy to eat the dead animal when it's been cleaned and cooked.

Yes.

> I'm not going to pretend I don't have that contradiction myself.

Oh, I have half that contradiction too.  I like to eat meat but I cannot
kill an animal or bird.  Present me with one already dead and I can cut it
up, skin it etc.
We (myself & KFC) will eat all of these pheasants.  They are very yummy.
Then I will make soup from the remains which will give me a few lunches for
work with some crunchy bread

Tweed
Jane - 19 Dec 2007 13:07 GMT
>  > I asked my colleagues what they would do if they were presented with a brace
>  > of pheasants "still in the feather" as we call it.  It varied from "scream
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> feathers, or whatever else it had in life. On the other, we're all too
> happy to eat the dead animal when it's been cleaned and cooked.

Oh yes, I freely admit that I'm a child of the modern world.  If I
ever had to go survivalist, I'd have to become a
vegetarian.  As far as I'm concerned, meat comes on a styrofoam plate,
covered in plastic. I don't want to see
what it used to be!  LOL

Jane
Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 00:16 GMT
so glad it worked for you, I am like that about Bambi, won't shoot one but
if its dead give me a knife and lets not waste shall we, Lee
> I must admit, kind as the intention is, the thought of having to gut and
> pluck two pheasants in a short time does not fill me with joy after work..
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> >> >>
> >> >> Tweed
Debbie Wilson - 17 Dec 2007 09:59 GMT
> I had to
> cook it in foil and rub it with olive oil. It was delicious.

Yummy. We were also presented with pheasants from my brother-in-law a
few years ago. I found a nice recipe where you lay streaky bacon over
the breast to keep it moist (which then goes nice and crispy during
cooking), and make a red wine and chestnut gravy to go with it.
Delicious.

Deb.
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Suz - 17 Dec 2007 15:08 GMT
> > I had to
> > cook it in foil and rub it with olive oil. It was delicious.
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> "He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would;
> He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield

You had to mention bacon! I'm now starving.

Suz&Spicey
Debbie Wilson - 17 Dec 2007 19:01 GMT
> You had to mention bacon! I'm now starving.

mmmmmmm bacon sandwich :-)

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CatNipped - 17 Dec 2007 16:48 GMT
>I must admit, kind as the intention is, the thought of having to gut and
>pluck two pheasants in a short time does not fill me with joy after work..
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> I suppose it seems like that if everything meat-wise they buy comes in
> neat pieces from the supermarket or oven-ready chickens.

I don't mean to offend, but I find it hypocritical that people who are
perfectly fine with eating supermarket meat turn their nose up at freshly
killed game.  The only difference is that, in most cases, freshly killed
game have suffered a much less painful and traumatising death!

Hugs,

CatNipped

> Tweed
>
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>>> >>
>>> >> Tweed
Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 16:56 GMT
sorry I don't agree, but then my sister raises rabbits and chickens for
consumption and my father is a cattle rancher... everything dies, everything
gets eaten, its our job to waste as little as possible during the process,
Lee
> >I must admit, kind as the intention is, the thought of having to gut and
> >pluck two pheasants in a short time does not fill me with joy after work..
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> >>> >>
> >>> >> Tweed
CatNipped - 17 Dec 2007 18:50 GMT
> sorry I don't agree, but then my sister raises rabbits and chickens for
> consumption and my father is a cattle rancher... everything dies,
> everything
> gets eaten, its our job to waste as little as possible during the process,
> Lee

So what did I write that you disagree with?

"I don't mean to offend, but I find it hypocritical that people who are
perfectly fine with eating supermarket meat turn their nose up at freshly
killed game.  The only difference is that, in most cases, freshly killed
game have suffered a much less painful and traumatising death!"

I was saying that people who eat "packaged" meat, but are offended by having
to deal with a dead animal or offended by people who do, are being
hypocritical since they're just letting someone else have to deal with the
"messy details" of skinning, gutting, etc.  Note, I wasn't saying that they
should not have the right to eat only their "packaged" meat, but if they
look down their nose at people who *do* skin and gut their own meat then
they are being hypocrits

Hugs,

CatNipped

>> >I must admit, kind as the intention is, the thought of having to gut and
>> >pluck two pheasants in a short time does not fill me with joy after
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>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Tweed
Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 19:05 GMT
I disagree with the fact that one way is more or less humane than another,
Lee
> > sorry I don't agree, but then my sister raises rabbits and chickens for
> > consumption and my father is a cattle rancher... everything dies,
[quoted text clipped - 125 lines]
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Tweed
CatNipped - 17 Dec 2007 19:49 GMT
>I disagree with the fact that one way is more or less humane than another,
> Lee

Ah.  Have you seen chickens that are being bred for market?  Do you know how
they "process" cows?

Hugs,

CatNipped

>> > sorry I don't agree, but then my sister raises rabbits and chickens for
>> > consumption and my father is a cattle rancher... everything dies,
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>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Tweed
leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 17 Dec 2007 20:04 GMT
> >I disagree with the fact that one way is more or less humane than another,
> > Lee
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>
> CatNipped

Guys, I don't mean to be rude, but this is a thread about Kitty Farm
Cats Health. KFC is someone we are all very worried about, as is
Tweed.

Please don't hijack this particular thread by discussing the pros and
cons of the meat industry.

Thanks
Helen M
Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 20:18 GMT
exactly why I posted what I did, thanks, Lee

> > >I disagree with the fact that one way is more or less humane than another,
> > > Lee
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> Thanks
> Helen M
Christina Websell - 18 Dec 2007 23:59 GMT
>> >I disagree with the fact that one way is more or less humane than
>> >another,
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>
> Thanks

It was my fault, Helen, posting about "who could deal with a pheasant with
all it's feathers on?"  Maybe we can discuss this another time.
It's OT, I know but I find it interesting that my colleagues seem to be
divorced from how their meat gets to their plate so much that they find that
it "grosses them"  if I tell them that I plucked and gutted a pheasant to
feed my sick cat.  Or indeed if I plucked and gutted one for me ;-)
Better not tell them about the supermarket chickens then..

Tweed
Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 20:04 GMT
yes and yes, and if you only see what the "expose"  show you you miss the
vast majority of reputable establishments, this may have to be something we
agree to disagree on and let it go, Lee
> >I disagree with the fact that one way is more or less humane than another,
> > Lee
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> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> Tweed
jofirey - 17 Dec 2007 20:02 GMT
>>I must admit, kind as the intention is, the thought of having to gut and
>>pluck two pheasants in a short time does not fill me with joy after work..
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>
> CatNipped

Not to mention a far more interesting life.

Jo
Karen - 17 Dec 2007 01:20 GMT
> Thank Bast, my neighbours brought me 2 pheasants last Saturday and
> today "voila!" the terrier men came again for a rat hunt and brought me
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Tweed

Did she eat any? I completely understand where you are at, but she has
surprised us all before. I will send many purrs.
Christina Websell - 17 Dec 2007 02:13 GMT
>> Thank Bast, my neighbours brought me 2 pheasants last Saturday and today
>> "voila!" the terrier men came again for a rat hunt and brought me another
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Did she eat any?

Yes, a bit.

> I completely understand where you are at, but she has surprised us all
> before. I will send many purrs.

I hope she surprises me again.  Thanks for your purrs.
When a 22 yo cat with diagnosed CRF goes off her food it is something to
worry about.
Tweed
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 17 Dec 2007 02:25 GMT
> When a 22 yo cat with diagnosed CRF goes off her food it is something to
> worry about.

Yes. We'll continue the purrs for her to get her appetite back.

Joyce
Adrian A - 16 Dec 2007 18:30 GMT
> Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great age.
> I have been down this road before with my old dogs, of offering
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Tweed

Purrs for KFC to rally again. I know how hard it is but you'll know when the
time is right. Meanwhile send Boyfie out to get her a collard dove.
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Irulan - 16 Dec 2007 18:31 GMT
We are purring and praying for sweet KFC.

Lily & her mama

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from the stars we come
to the stars we return
from now until the end of time.

> Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great age.
> I have been down this road before with my old dogs, of offering tempting
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>
> Tweed
Marina - 16 Dec 2007 19:10 GMT
> Kitty cannot afford not to eat.  She is getting frailer and frailer, as all
> CRF patients do as their damaged kidneys excrete more protein than they can
> take in.  I know she did this once before a few months ago but with purrs
> she came back so I am asking for a few more, please.

Of course we will purr for KFC. I know you know she can't go on forever,
however much we all would like her to, but we're purring that she will
continue for just a while more. {{{Tweed}}}

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Victor Martinez - 16 Dec 2007 19:29 GMT
> Yeah, I know :-(((((

Lots of purrs on the way.

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Bettina - 16 Dec 2007 19:54 GMT
On 16 Dez., 18:23, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great age.
> I have been down this road before with my old dogs, of offering tempting
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>
> Tweed

Hopefully it`s just a "bad" day.
Lots of purrs on the way.

Bettina
Gandalf - 16 Dec 2007 20:38 GMT
>Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great age.
>I have been down this road before with my old dogs, of offering tempting
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>
>Tweed

Purrs are on the way for KFC to get her appetite back, and to feel
better, soon(!)

~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Life without cats would be only marginally worth living."
-TC, and the unmercifully, relentlessly, sweet calico kitty, Kenzie.

How you behave towards cats here below determines your status in Heaven.
- Robert Heinlein

Life is very difficult. Once you understand that, life becomes easier.
-Buddha
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 16 Dec 2007 21:19 GMT
> Yesterday, because she didn't want to eat by evening, I bought her some
> lactose-free milk which she drank.  I could only get semi-skimmed, I wanted
> to get full-fat to get some calories into her. but apparently full fat
> lactose free milk is not made.  Dammit.

Does she like butter? Maybe she'll lick some off your finger.

Purrs from my gang, Licky leading the chorus

Joyce
Kreisleriana - 16 Dec 2007 22:16 GMT
> Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great age.
> I have been down this road before with my old dogs, of offering tempting
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>
> Tweed

 Hugs and purrs-- our very biggest ones for our dear old girl.
Joy - 16 Dec 2007 22:52 GMT
Purrs are on the way.

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> Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great age.
> I have been down this road before with my old dogs, of offering tempting
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>
> Tweed
sam - 17 Dec 2007 00:40 GMT
> Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great age.
> I have been down this road before with my old dogs, of offering tempting
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Tweed

Purrs that KFC will pull through at least once more.

Sam
Steve Touchstone - 17 Dec 2007 05:05 GMT
purrs coming for another rebound and return of a healthy appetite

>Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great age.
>I have been down this road before with my old dogs, of offering tempting
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>Tweed
>
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Yowie - 17 Dec 2007 09:33 GMT
Sorry for piggybacking - purrs for poor old KFC, may she just be 'off her
food' for a little bit rather than anything worse.

Yowie

> purrs coming for another rebound and return of a healthy appetite
>
>>Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great age.
>>I have been down this road before with my old dogs, of offering tempting
>>little morsels of various wonderful foods, only to have them rejected and
>>for me to get more and more despairing as they reach end-stage CRF.

<snip>
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Dec 2007 15:17 GMT
> Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great
> age.  I have been down this road before with my old dogs, of
> offering tempting little morsels of various wonderful foods, only to
> have them rejected and for me to get more and more despairing as
> they reach end-stage CRF.

Purrs for KFC.

> Yesterday, because she didn't want to eat by evening, I bought her
> some lactose-free milk which she drank.  I could only get
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>
> Yeah, I know :-(((((

It's possible to force-feed them ... I did that with Oscar after her
surgery, using a syringe and any extremely runny food I could get my
hands on.  But ... it was extremely unpleasant for everyone involved,
it took a few hours to get any appreciable amount into her, and she
got mats in her fur that I've only just recently finished cutting
out.

So, it is possible ... but for Oscar, I think if she refuses to eat
again, I will not go that route again.  

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Charleen Welton - 17 Dec 2007 15:33 GMT
Many purrs and positive thoughts for KFC and for you.
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Charleen
Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro
The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin
St. Cloud, Florida USA

> Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great age.
> I have been down this road before with my old dogs, of offering tempting
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>
> Tweed
dberry@mitre.org - 17 Dec 2007 18:18 GMT
Purrs and good appetite thoughts for Kitty Farmcat.  Hope she is
tempted by those delicious morsels.

Debbie

On Dec 16, 12:23 pm, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Kitty cannot afford not to eat.  She is getting frailer and frailer, as all
> CRF patients do as their damaged kidneys excrete more protein than they can
> take in.  I know she did this once before a few months ago but with purrs
> she came back so I am asking for a few more, please.
> <snipped....>
> Tweed
Susan M - 18 Dec 2007 03:34 GMT
> Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great age.
> I have been down this road before with my old dogs, of offering tempting
> little morsels of various wonderful foods, only to have them rejected and
> for me to get more and more despairing as they reach end-stage CRF.

Big huge purrs coming KFC's way to find her appetite again.

Susan M
Otis and Chester
polonca12000 - 22 Dec 2007 22:37 GMT
> Since yesterday.  This panics me because of her CRF and her great age.
> I have been down this road before with my old dogs, of offering tempting
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>
> Tweed

Lots and lots of purrs for KFC and hugs for you, Christina,
Polonca and Soncek

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