Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / December 2007
six cats and a shovel
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Granby - 16 Dec 2007 13:16 GMT For the first time in the last 40 years, the snow has defeated me. There is an inch of ice on my driveway and drifts almost as high as my knees and he wind is blowing 90 miles an hour, so it seems. I shoveled about 10 minutes, looked behind me and couldn't find where I had done anything.
Came back inside, mad because I couldn't do it. About half an hour later I heard an awful noise on my front porch. Looked on the porch to see six cats sitting there all huddled, howling. I knew two of them from the neighborhood. They all wanted in but couldn't do that. They stayed so I filled a small tote with litter. Filled three pie pans with food and got some water and put all this in the garage. I opened the door and shoveled them a path to get in if they wanted. Fixed the door so they could go in and out.
My three are having a hisssssy fit as all of the cats are now in the garage. Not warm but out of the wind.
Stormmee - 16 Dec 2007 13:36 GMT YOU HAVE BEEN ASSIMILATED... I WOULD SNICKER BUT AM LAUGHING TOO HARD...
> For the first time in the last 40 years, the snow has defeated me. There is > an inch of ice on my driveway and drifts almost as high as my knees and he [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > My three are having a hisssssy fit as all of the cats are now in the garage. > Not warm but out of the wind. Granby - 16 Dec 2007 14:02 GMT Heiffer
> YOU HAVE BEEN ASSIMILATED... I WOULD SNICKER BUT AM LAUGHING TOO HARD... >> For the first time in the last 40 years, the snow has defeated me. There [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > garage. >> Not warm but out of the wind. Stormmee - 16 Dec 2007 17:13 GMT still snickering... no still laughing out loud...
> Heiffer > > YOU HAVE BEEN ASSIMILATED... I WOULD SNICKER BUT AM LAUGHING TOO HARD... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > garage. > >> Not warm but out of the wind. Granby - 16 Dec 2007 17:51 GMT still a heifer. People from Missouri know this word!!
> still snickering... no still laughing out loud... >> Heiffer [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> > garage. >> >> Not warm but out of the wind. Bettina - 16 Dec 2007 18:14 GMT > > still snickering... no still laughing out loud... > >> Heiffer [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > - Zitierten Text anzeigen - But Germans do not.<g> Best greetings from the one with 4 more cats.
Bettina
Adrian A - 16 Dec 2007 18:31 GMT >> still a heifer. People from Missouri know this word!!"Stormmee" > > But Germans do not.<g> > Best greetings from the one with 4 more cats. > > Bettina Us Brits don't know either but I'm sure it's not a compliment. ;-)
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MatSav - 16 Dec 2007 18:47 GMT >>> still a heifer. People from Missouri know this >>> word!!"Stormmee" [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Us Brits don't know either but I'm sure it's not a compliment. > ;-) Maybe he meant "heiffer"? Isn't that a type of cow?
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Granby - 16 Dec 2007 21:06 GMT Yes, it is a girl cow but in this case has nothing to do with size. Heifers are umm stubborn, likely to frustrate anyone who works with them, in a funny way as in going this way instead of that and laughing at humans. Neiffer mind, you kan't splain it. She is from Missouri and she knows I love her as my sister/friend. That's all that matters.
>>>> still a heifer. People from Missouri know this word!!"Stormmee" >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Maybe he meant "heiffer"? Isn't that a type of cow? Stormmee - 16 Dec 2007 21:06 GMT sweet talk all you want its still just too funny... the " cat i don't think so lady has been totally S U C K E D in!!!, Lee, who just started giggling all over again...
> Yes, it is a girl cow but in this case has nothing to do with size. Heifers > are umm stubborn, likely to frustrate anyone who works with them, in a funny [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > -- > > MatSav Granby - 16 Dec 2007 21:19 GMT Look, yes I didn't think I like cats, no I knew I didn't, they used to jump at me from nowhere. Yeah, I love them now but still want my chocolate lab.
> sweet talk all you want its still just too funny... the " cat i don't > think [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> > -- >> > MatSav Stormmee - 16 Dec 2007 21:32 GMT one thing about a lab is they are really good with cats... if I got a god I would want a gray hound, NOT with cats, Lee
> Look, yes I didn't think I like cats, no I knew I didn't, they used to jump > at me from nowhere. Yeah, I love them now but still want my chocolate lab. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >> > -- > >> > MatSav Granby - 16 Dec 2007 21:41 GMT I have always wanted one but my cousin in the greyhound rescue said if you get one, they are like popcorn, you need one more. They need company while they lay around all day on your couch. I am afraid I got too many years under my belt to exercise them properly. They really like to run, a loooonnngggg way.
> one thing about a lab is they are really good with cats... if I got a god > I [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> >> > -- >> >> > MatSav Stormmee - 16 Dec 2007 21:44 GMT I just know we would have a whole new meaning to daily kitty races if I got one, Lee
> I have always wanted one but my cousin in the greyhound rescue said if you > get one, they are like popcorn, you need one more. They need company while [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > >> >> > -- > >> >> > MatSav Jeanne Hedge - 16 Dec 2007 21:50 GMT >I have always wanted one but my cousin in the greyhound rescue said if you >get one, they are like popcorn, you need one more. They need company while >they lay around all day on your couch. I am afraid I got too many years >under my belt to exercise them properly. They really like to run, a >loooonnngggg way. I saw a show about greyhound rescue, and the people there called getting a 2nd (or more) greyhound "chipping", as in the old Lay's potato chips slogan: (they're so good) "you can't have just one"
Gives a new meaning for chipping your pets - are you getting another one, or injecting them with microchips? >^.^<
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Granby - 16 Dec 2007 21:54 GMT The cousin that does the rescue always has three of four at her house and they always think they are lap dogs. Have heard the term chipping and it is about right.
>>I have always wanted one but my cousin in the greyhound rescue said if you >>get one, they are like popcorn, you need one more. They need company [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com bastXXXette@sonic.net - 16 Dec 2007 21:41 GMT > "Adrian A" <anca@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>>>> still a heifer. People from Missouri know this word!!
>>> But Germans do not.<g> >>> Bettina
>> Us Brits don't know either but I'm sure it's not a compliment.
> Maybe he meant "heiffer"? Isn't that a type of cow? One 'f'. I looked it up to make sure. :) And I discovered that it doesn't simply mean any cow, but rather, a cow that has not (yet) given birth. A "virgin" cow, if you will. A "miss" among cows. :) (Bettina: "miss" = "fraulein" (sp?))
The word is sometimes used as an insult against women, not that different from calling a woman a "cow".
Joyce
Granby - 16 Dec 2007 21:48 GMT Guyz the dictionary doesn't know everything! If I called her a Cow, and meant it, she would clean my clock. (knock me out). Please let it go before it gets ugly, it wasn't meant to be, well, not much anyway!
> MatSav <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot | pipex | dot | com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Joyce Bettina - 17 Dec 2007 11:29 GMT On 16 Dez., 22:41, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
> > "Adrian A" <a...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Joyce Now I know more. It always helps to know "bad" words. Thank you all.
Cheryl P. - 17 Dec 2007 12:22 GMT > On 16 Dez., 22:41, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: <snip>
>> The word is sometimes used as an insult against women, not that >> different from calling a woman a "cow". [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Now I know more. It always helps to know "bad" words. > Thank you all. Is 'cow' something that has different connotations in the UK and North America? I don't mean the creature that moos and has four legs; I mean as applied to human females. I would consider it very rude to call a woman a cow, as it would imply to me that she's fat, clumsy and stupid. But when I read British novels, the characters seem to talk of 'That poor cow' meaning a female who the speaker is sorry for, but who isn't being referred to quite as negatively as I would have expected.
I haven't heard or read of women being refered to as 'heifers' except jokingly, but we don't have a lot of cattle around here (not farming country, really), and I think a lot of people would tend to use the more familiar (to them) work 'cow'.
Cheryl
Matthew - 17 Dec 2007 13:41 GMT >> On 16 Dez., 22:41, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > <snip> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Cheryl Welcome to the wonderful world of you might be a redneck ;-)
Granby - 17 Dec 2007 14:23 GMT Lee, I am so sorry I called you what I did, (not really cause we know what we mean) am sorry in print these things can look so bad. From now on, when you make a smart a** remark, I shall refer to you as the North End Of A South Bound Mule. That should be clear to all.
>> On 16 Dez., 22:41, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > <snip> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Cheryl Adrian A - 17 Dec 2007 14:46 GMT I wonder how many more times this thread will make me laugh.
> Lee, I am so sorry I called you what I did, (not really cause we know > what we mean) am sorry in print these things can look so bad. From [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> >> Cheryl Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 15:40 GMT hey I thinks it funny and we got to give our European friends a new term... mayhaps their boss won't know... Lee
> Lee, I am so sorry I called you what I did, (not really cause we know what > we mean) am sorry in print these things can look so bad. From now on, when [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > Cheryl Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 15:38 GMT the joking connotation is used here, as Gramby often accuses me of the stubborn qualities... not that she has any evidence or anything... Lee
> > On 16 Dez., 22:41, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > <snip> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Cheryl bastXXXette@sonic.net - 17 Dec 2007 18:58 GMT > >> The word is sometimes used as an insult against women, not that > >> different from calling a woman a "cow".
> Is 'cow' something that has different connotations in the UK and North > America? I don't mean the creature that moos and has four legs; I mean > as applied to human females. I would consider it very rude to call a > woman a cow, as it would imply to me that she's fat, clumsy and stupid. I think it's a way to insult a woman, by literally de-humanizing her, ie, implying she's an animal. (Which pretty much reflects people's attitudes toward animals, too.) Of course, it goes both ways - men are compared to pigs, wolves, and so on. And "cow" seems to be thrown at women regardless of their size, although it does have a particular kind of venom when used against a woman who actually *is* fat (not just implied to be).
> But when I read British novels, the characters seem to talk of 'That > poor cow' meaning a female who the speaker is sorry for, but who isn't > being referred to quite as negatively as I would have expected. Hmm... well, I haven't read the novels in question, nor am I familiar with the cultural context for that attitude, but to me it sounds awfully patronizing. It's kind of a short step from "poor, pitiful thing" to "what a disgusting creature" in my book.
> I haven't heard or read of women being refered to as 'heifers' except > jokingly I definitely have. Maybe it's only been young women - I've never noticed. I didn't even know until yesterday when I looked up the word that "heifer" means a *young* cow. I thought it was synonymous (sp?) with cow, or maybe a particular category of breed, function, or something.
Joyce
Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 19:08 GMT never thought of the cultural difference, have read that in novels as well, Lee
> > >> The word is sometimes used as an insult against women, not that > > >> different from calling a woman a "cow". [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Joyce Cheryl P. - 17 Dec 2007 19:44 GMT > I think it's a way to insult a woman, by literally de-humanizing her, ie, > implying she's an animal. (Which pretty much reflects people's attitudes > toward animals, too.) Of course, it goes both ways - men are compared to > pigs, wolves, and so on. And "cow" seems to be thrown at women regardless > of their size, although it does have a particular kind of venom when used > against a woman who actually *is* fat (not just implied to be). I can understand how it works as an insult; I'm just not sure it's intended to be an insult in all the contexts in which I've read it.
> > But when I read British novels, the characters seem to talk of 'That > > poor cow' meaning a female who the speaker is sorry for, but who isn't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > patronizing. It's kind of a short step from "poor, pitiful thing" to > "what a disgusting creature" in my book. That's interesting; I'd say it was a very big step. I might not like being pitied or patronized (which are two very different things), but I'd be far more offended if someone showed that they thought I was a disgusting non-human being.
Pity in particular is very close to empathy, and to my mind shows that the person feeling it is at least understanding and sympathetic, even if I'd rather not be the recipient of their understanding and sympathy. 'Patronize' has a more negative connotation in my understanding of the terms.
Cheryl
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 17 Dec 2007 20:13 GMT >> It's kind of a short step from "poor, pitiful thing" to >> "what a disgusting creature" in my book.
> That's interesting; I'd say it was a very big step. I might not like > being pitied or patronized (which are two very different things), but > I'd be far more offended if someone showed that they thought I was a > disgusting non-human being.
> Pity in particular is very close to empathy, and to my mind shows that > the person feeling it is at least understanding and sympathetic, even if > I'd rather not be the recipient of their understanding and sympathy. > 'Patronize' has a more negative connotation in my understanding of the > terms. That's interesting. I'm not sure if we have a difference of semantics or an actual difference in values. My connotation of the word "pity" is pretty much universally negative. To me, it implies looking down on the person. Of course, the person who is feeling the pity might not acknowledge, even to him/herself, that they are feeling superior. They might just feel that their intention is, "Awww, the poor thing." (Which isn't necessarily bad - I say that about cats all the time!) But I hear it as, "The poor thing - thank God I'm not as pathetic as that person!"
Which I hear as being very different from empathy. Empathy, as opposed to pity, implies two additional things: (1) respect for the person, and (2) a recognition that you are not so different from them. So you might look at an unfortunate person and think, "Wow, they're really handling that admirably. I hope I could do as well if it were me." Or, "I feel so bad for what they're going through, that must be really hard. I would certainly have a hard time with that, too." To me, pity seeks to elevate oneself above the pitied person, or at least, to separate oneself (eg, "that could never happen to me"), whereas empathy seeks to *align* oneself, to identify with that person ("that could very easily have been me").
Again, this might just be a semantic difference - maybe you think of "pity" in the same way that I have just defined "empathy", in which case, our beliefs and values are pretty similar.
Joyce
jofirey - 18 Dec 2007 01:24 GMT > >> It's kind of a short step from "poor, pitiful thing" to > >> "what a disgusting creature" in my book. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Joyce Interesting. How weighted simple words can become.
I don't see pity as particularly negative.
One definition: Sympathy and sorrow aroused by the misfortune or suffering of another.
There are so many instances where someone or something might arouse feelings of pity without being in and of themselves at all pathetic.
But then that is why we all have to remember that what we mean to say might well not be what someone else hears.
Jo
Stormmee - 18 Dec 2007 09:59 GMT this is especially relevant on the net, you just have the words, no body language of any kind as indicators, Lee
> > >> It's kind of a short step from "poor, pitiful thing" to > > >> "what a disgusting creature" in my book. [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > Jo Jack Campin - bogus address - 18 Dec 2007 00:14 GMT >> But when I read British novels, the characters seem to talk of 'That >> poor cow' meaning a female who the speaker is sorry for, but who isn't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > patronizing. It's kind of a short step from "poor, pitiful thing" to > "what a disgusting creature" in my book. Not really - "poor cow" isn't that negative. "Silly cow" is another not-very-offensive insult (depends on the context). "Cow" without an adjective is just as offensive as in the US, though.
In Scotland "hen" is much more common and usually it's not offensive at all. (You could think of Scots as having a vocative pronoun whose feminine form is "hen" and whose masculine form is "Jimmy").
>> I haven't heard or read of women being refered to as 'heifers' except >> jokingly > I definitely have. Maybe it's only been young women - I've never noticed. I think that's right. The idea is to reduce the woman to her potential as breeding stock.
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Stormmee - 16 Dec 2007 18:50 GMT technically its the young female offspring of a cow... in this context its "you little Bi**h!!!" Lee
> >> still a heifer. People from Missouri know this word!!"Stormmee" > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Cats leave pawprints on your heart > http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Granby - 16 Dec 2007 21:07 GMT Dang should have read Lee's post first, that about sums it up! Good job girl. (See, I told you she understood me)
> technically its the young female offspring of a cow... in this context its > "you little Bi**h!!!" Lee [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Matthew - 16 Dec 2007 22:05 GMT ROFLMAOPIMP
You two are acting like and old married couple ;-)
Thanks for the laugh < rolling on the floor laughing so hard it hurts >
> technically its the young female offspring of a cow... in this context its > "you little Bi**h!!!" Lee [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Stormmee - 16 Dec 2007 22:21 GMT best thing about her is her sense of humor... we always have a good time together... her life experiences at this time not only make me giggle they make me think... Lee
> ROFLMAOPIMP > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart > >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Granby - 17 Dec 2007 00:12 GMT Been there done that with the old married couple thing. Friends are much better. My life experiences suck right now. You can be damned if you do and damned if you don't. Will watch what I call you, naw, can't promise that. Glad I didn't call you old blind bat when you lost something in the kitchen, would have been tarred and feathered and blocked off the net! No, I don't want to hear about falling over the kitty kubes they drug in the bedroom!!
> best thing about her is her sense of humor... we always have a good time > together... her life experiences at this time not only make me giggle they [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 00:28 GMT so far today I have lost 1 coffee cup and one bra, any questions? Lee,
> Been there done that with the old married couple thing. Friends are much > better. My life experiences suck right now. You can be damned if you do [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >> >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart > >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Granby - 17 Dec 2007 00:48 GMT Well, I lost a ring which will end up in a cat stash and my lighter and have two new cigars. D**N. You lost a......will call later with my comment!
> so far today I have lost 1 coffee cup and one bra, any questions? Lee, >> Been there done that with the old married couple thing. Friends are much [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> >> >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart >> >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Matthew - 17 Dec 2007 01:26 GMT I got better than that I found a laser pointer that I lost 3 years ago. It was in a place that gets cleaned regularly so these little buggers have been moving things on me either that I am losing my mind ;-) Either or they are still little devils
> Well, I lost a ring which will end up in a cat stash and my lighter and > have two new cigars. D**N. You lost a......will call later with my [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >>> >> >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart >>> >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 15:35 GMT I vote for them moving it to Make you think you are losing it, so they can remind you to feed them extra times, Lee
> I got better than that I found a laser pointer that I lost 3 years ago. It > was in a place that gets cleaned regularly so these little buggers have been [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > >>> >> >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart > >>> >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 15:33 GMT glad you didn't post that comment... Lee
> Well, I lost a ring which will end up in a cat stash and my lighter and have > two new cigars. D**N. You lost a......will call later with my comment! [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >> >> >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart > >> >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Matthew - 17 Dec 2007 00:53 GMT Interesting sounds like a tease to me :^)
> so far today I have lost 1 coffee cup and one bra, any questions? Lee, >> Been there done that with the old married couple thing. Friends are much [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> >> >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart >> >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 15:34 GMT I just knew she would have something to say about it, sadly the bra was lost during cleaning the laundry... Lee
> Interesting sounds like a tease to me :^) > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >> >> >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart > >> >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Granby - 17 Dec 2007 15:25 GMT No questions friend it is just that I would find this loss udderly frustrating.
> so far today I have lost 1 coffee cup and one bra, any questions? Lee, >> Been there done that with the old married couple thing. Friends are much [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> >> >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart >> >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Stormmee - 17 Dec 2007 15:41 GMT would have been less so if the circumstances of the loss of the clothing weren't laundry related, Lee
> No questions friend it is just that I would find this loss udderly > frustrating. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >> >> >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart > >> >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk sam - 18 Dec 2007 04:11 GMT > so far today I have lost 1 coffee cup and one bra, any questions? Lee, OK. No Dave's around so I'll try to pick up the slack.
JPEGS?
Sam
Granby - 18 Dec 2007 04:19 GMT TeeHee rhat was udderly funny.
>> so far today I have lost 1 coffee cup and one bra, any questions? Lee, > OK. No Dave's around so I'll try to pick up the slack. > > JPEGS? > > Sam Stormmee - 18 Dec 2007 10:00 GMT no I like you guys too much for that, Lee, Giggling
> > so far today I have lost 1 coffee cup and one bra, any questions? Lee, > OK. No Dave's around so I'll try to pick up the slack. > > JPEGS? > > Sam Bettina - 17 Dec 2007 11:28 GMT > >> still a heifer. People from Missouri know this word!!"Stormmee" > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Adrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) > Cats leave pawprints on your hearthttp://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk I guessed that one.:-)
Adrian A - 16 Dec 2007 14:06 GMT Resistance is futile!
> For the first time in the last 40 years, the snow has defeated me. There > is an inch of ice on my driveway and drifts almost as high as [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > My three are having a hisssssy fit as all of the cats are now in the > garage. Not warm but out of the wind. Stormmee - 16 Dec 2007 17:13 GMT LOL, Lee
> Resistance is futile! > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > My three are having a hisssssy fit as all of the cats are now in the > > garage. Not warm but out of the wind. mariib - 16 Dec 2007 15:50 GMT You've been very kind to the furry ones & curses on either their owners or whoever couldn't be bothered in the first place to spay/neuter their cats. I've got an idiot neighbor with cats & dogs who believes it's against nature to either spay/neuter their animals or keep their cat inside & dogs on leash when out. And their cat used to be cats last year, but they "don't know what happened to ...", right! Here on my street there's many large dogs, traffic & winter & the big snow started coming in early this morning. M.
>For the first time in the last 40 years, the snow has defeated me. There is >an inch of ice on my driveway and drifts almost as high as my knees and he [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >My three are having a hisssssy fit as all of the cats are now in the garage. >Not warm but out of the wind. polonca12000 - 22 Dec 2007 22:35 GMT > For the first time in the last 40 years, the snow has defeated me. There is > an inch of ice on my driveway and drifts almost as high as my knees and he [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > My three are having a hisssssy fit as all of the cats are now in the garage. > Not warm but out of the wind. Thank you for taking care of the kitties. Best wishes, Polonca and Soncek
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