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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / November 2004OT Woman Breast Feeds Dog
Headlines in our local paper this week. What does everyone think about it. http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3100202a11,00.html Bev >Headlines in our local paper this week. What does everyone think about it. > >http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3100202a11,00.html > >Bev I think: OWWW! *Hoomin* babies' teeth are sharp enough! :P:P:P Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com > Headlines in our local paper this week. What does everyone think about it. > > http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3100202a11,00.html > > Bev Ow? > > Headlines in our local paper this week. What does everyone think about > it. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > Ow? At least that. And a bit of seriously flawed logic, too. I would NOT want a staffordshire adult dog to think of my tits as any kind of snack. Nor would I want that same dog to look upon my child as a possible source of competition. Dogs will instinctively protect their human families and can easily be trained to do so WITHOUT the help of the La Leche League. Melissa >Headlines in our local paper this week. What does everyone think about it. > >http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3100202a11,00.html > >Bev That woman is one serious fruitcake! There are just some things that are *wrong* and that's one of them. Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- >That woman is one serious fruitcake! There are just some things that are >*wrong* and that's one of them. > >Cheers, helen s Agreed. Just plain wrong. Sherry > That woman is one serious fruitcake! There are just some things > that are *wrong* and that's one of them. Do you drink milk? (ie, cows' milk, or goat milk, etc) I don't understand why they think that breastfeeding will make a dog *aggressive*. Because the dog will think the woman is its mother or alpha? (But shouldn't any pet dog think that its human is the alpha?) They're conflating the breastfeeding issue with the training the dog to be a protector. The latter seems more dangerous to me. Personally, a human breastfeeding a dog seems weird to me, but is that a good reason to condemn it out of hand? Just because I myself probably wouldn't do it, doesn't mean it's wrong. Joyce > > That woman is one serious fruitcake! There are just some things > > that are *wrong* and that's one of them. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Joyce Ok, then how about just plain unnecessarily painful? Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com >Do you drink milk? (ie, cows' milk, or goat milk, etc) Not direct from the teat of the goat or the cow I don't ;-) Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- >> Do you drink milk? (ie, cows' milk, or goat milk, etc) > > Not direct from the teat of the goat or the cow I don't ;-) LOL, I asked for that! Handed you a straight line on a platter. :) Perhaps this is a good time for me to assure people that I have never breastfed a furry animal (nor a bare one, for that matter), and it's highly doubtful I ever will. Yes, I think it's weird. But the question is, is it *wrong*? Is it doing anyone any harm? That's pretty much how I make all moral judgements. And if nobody (no sentient being, nor the planet, etc) is being harmed, then my conclusion is that there's nothing wrong with the behavior in question, no matter how strange it might seem to me or anyone else. I'm glad there are weird people in the world - some of them are pretty cool. And I still think this is no different from a dog nursing lion cubs (you see that on Animal Planet every other week), and all sorts of other inter-species mothering. Oh, well, we're probably all sick to death of this discussion! Back to the Bubbel conversation. :) Joyce > >> Do you drink milk? (ie, cows' milk, or goat milk, etc) > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Joyce I agree with you, Joyce. Tweed >>Do you drink milk? (ie, cows' milk, or goat milk, etc) > > Not direct from the teat of the goat or the cow I don't ;-) Good point! >Headlines in our local paper this week. What does everyone think about it. > >http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3100202a11,00.html I'm not a behaviorist, but I assume that the result would be basically the same as bottle feeding a puppy or kitten? > Headlines in our local paper this week. What does everyone think about it. > > http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3100202a11,00.html > > Bev It's just plain nuts. The woman is a fruitcake. I personally wouldn't do it, but whatever floats your boat I guess. -- > Headlines in our local paper this week. What does everyone > think about it. > > http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3100202a11,00.html > > Bev "By breastfeeding, the dog will develop a very strong bond to the mother rather than the baby and potentially look at the baby as a subordinate member of the family," Ms Clarke said. " My brother has a miniature poodle who thinks he is more dominant than my youngest niece (now 11, their daughter) and he was never breast fed by a human. I think the behaviorists are acting on impulse. My niece has learned not to put her face near the dogs face, because he has bitten her. I blame my brother, who plays rough with the dog; the dog "knows" he isn't dominant over him (brother), but has also tried to be dominant over my SIL at times. It's still wierd and you have to wonder what made that woman think this would give her the desired results.  SignatureCheryl > It's still wierd and you have to wonder what made that woman think > this would give her the desired results. Especially since, AFAIK, once puppies are weaned and on their own, they don't necessarily have a strong attachment to their mother. But I just can't get over the idea of having all those sharp teeth anywhere near a breast. SignatureCheryl (the other one) >>It's still wierd and you have to wonder what made that woman think >>this would give her the desired results. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > But I just can't get over the idea of having all those sharp teeth > anywhere near a breast. I'm sure that's one factor in mother cats and dogs nursing their infants a much shorter time than humans do! >>>It's still wierd and you have to wonder what made that woman think >>>this would give her the desired results. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >I'm sure that's one factor in mother cats and dogs nursing >their infants a much shorter time than humans do! I know I'll get in trouble with La Leche league, but I think you should wean kids before they get big enough not to take "No" for an answer. Certainly before they get big enough to knock you down. :P Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com >>>> It's still wierd and you have to wonder what made that woman think >>>> this would give her the desired results. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Theresa Judge Judy made a similar statement last week. A case involving a woman breast feeding her infant in the middle of a crowded restaurant lobby which turned into an altercation where the defendant slapped the plaintiff for getting in her face. Judge Judy said she has no problem with breast feeding; it's natural. However, her generation (my mom's generation) simply didn't do it. But she said to the defendant, at the risk of offending the La Leche league, it should probably have been done out in the car, in the restroom, whatever. She also said, to the plaintiff, IF, as you testified, when the plaintiff *suggested* another place for doing this the defendant replied with cursing and being belligerant, why on earth with the plaintiff continue to engage her in this exchange? Why not just move to a different seat? The restaurant manager testified the plaintiff came in with a party of 12, without reservations, and was already being rude to his staff for not having 12 people seated before parties of 2 and 4 who got there after them. Believe me, I know her type. Nothing was going to satisfy the plaintiff; she was just rude. And, it takes a while to clear enough tables to seat a part of 12 together. DUH. Jill > I'm sure that's one factor in mother cats and dogs nursing > their infants a much shorter time than humans do! Odd, but I don't see it as necessarily harmful--provided the dog is getting proper nutrition. A dog should see its owner as the alpha. It is unlikely a dog would see a young child as an alpha since the child would likely not spend as much time on its feeding/disciplining/care as a grown-up. Having the dog view the child as a sibling won't necessarily make it vicious to the child, as pack animals protect their packmates; the dog will have to learn to obey the child, and the child will have to learn how to act towards the dog. Our kittens, raised by my mate from age 3 weeks, view him as their biological mother. They would nose through his hair "clicking," seeking nipples. He was grossed out when I told him what they were doing--but sure enough, once he produced the bottle they tucked right in. They still treat him as a kitten/cat would treat its feline parent. However, now that they are weaned, they no longer click or seek nipples. I would assume that once that pup is weaned, it will stop seeking to nurse as well. --Fil >> Headlines in our local paper this week. What does everyone >> think about it. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >It's still wierd and you have to wonder what made that woman think >this would give her the desired results. Well, so far we have discovered all kinds of ways to screw up dogs *without* resorting to breast-feeding them. :P Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com > Headlines in our local paper this week. What does everyone think about > it. > > http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3100202a11,00.html > > Bev Gross!!!! Also, is human milk proper nutrition for a puppy (or kitten)? Their stomachs are so much smaller, and they mature so much faster than human infants, I would imagine their own mothers' milk is much more nutritionally dense than a human's could possibly be. > is human milk proper nutrition for a puppy (or kitten)? ... > I would imagine their own mothers' milk is much more nutritionally > dense than a human's could possibly be. Well, sure. That's the case for every mammal species - their own mother's milk is the best. But many species drink the milk of others - humans being especially partial to this practice. I've seen any number of nature programs showing labradors nursing lion cubs or mother cats nursing a baby squirrel along with their own kittens. Those shows always have a high "awwww" factor. So why is a human nursing another mammal considered to be any different? I think people just have an "ewww, gross" reaction to it, and that's what guides their judgement. I'm not arguing with the gut reaction, but that should be separated from opinion. I really don't see any harm being done. Joyce > > is human milk proper nutrition for a puppy (or kitten)? ... > > I would imagine their own mothers' milk is much more nutritionally [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Joyce Sequel to this story as published in the paper this morning. "A woman who has been breast-feeding her puppy so it would grow up to protect her baby daughter is understood to be in a psychiatric unit. (snip part of story already known) An associate of Mrs. Tumanako described her as a 'lost soul'. It was not known who was caring for her three-month baby or the dog. The behaviour experts expressed alarm that a woman was breastfeeding a puppy, fearing it could result in savage behaviour." My comments. I feel sorry for this local woman whose story has featured on every talk show and television programme in the country and possibly ovseaseas. She apparently rang the paper and wanted them to take a photo of her actually breasfeeding the puppy. The paper refused to do this but put the story on the front page. I wondered at the time about her mental condition and this morning's story has proved me right. The question is, should not the people at the paper office have dug deeper into this story. I know, I know it is news and that is what the media is all about. However when this woman recovers from her sickness she will no doubt look back on it all and wonder what she was doing. How will she feel! I have seen relatives of mine do many odd things when they are mentally sick - fortunately not in the full glare of publicity! Bev SignatureThe email of the species is more deadly than the mail. >Gross!!!! Also, is human milk proper nutrition for a puppy >(or kitten)? I had a woman give breast milk to a baby squirrel. He was fine, very healthy, no diarrhea. I gave him proper milk when she gave him to me days later. When people come to my place to drop off baby squirrels, skunks, opossums and chipmunks, they always ask what we feed them. My husband tells them puppy milk. We use Esbilac. Then he goes "do you know how hard it is for us to milk the puppies." ;-) |
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