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Four Dec 14 2007
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Charleen Welton - 14 Dec 2007 20:43 GMT Changes, changes, changes. Changes that happened and changes that will happen. I moved the loaded trap from the Laundry Room to the Porch last night. This morning Four had not gone into it. He had not used the litter box either. It is my belief that he is VERY TRAP SAVY and will not go to it no matter how long I leave the food there or how hungry he gets. This is not good. I sat with Dr. Mulero for quite a while and we worked out a plan that we belive will work based on Four's behavior last night, the injury that the vet saw the picture of, the suggestion of Dewi to intergrate a seditive in to the plan and my familiy's ability to care for Four while he is being treated.
First thing Dr. Mulero wanted was to get rid of the trap. As soon as I removed it from the room and put Four's food down he was right there chowing down. Count that as one victory for the vet and one victory for the cat! I'm to spend time on the porch reading, fiddling with the plants, (poor plants) talking to Four, re-establishing the relationship. At that time Dr. Mulero will give me Penicillin in a food pocket which will go into Four's meal. He should be able to swallow it right down. This will beging the healing process for the neck wound. It may take many weeks the good doctor informed me. Our family, and I hope you guys, can handle it. When the wound is either healed or well on it's way we will evaluate whether or not Four trusts me enough to pick him up. If so I can put him in a crate and take him to met Dr. Mulero in person. If Four is not that trusting then the good doctor will give me either a pill or show me how to administer a liquid seditive to him so that he can be crated and taken for his physcial and lab work. It may be months from now that his will occur but it is happening!
I already know what my New Year's Resolution will be: A healthy; catnip year for Four. Dr. M is amazed at the interest in Four. He can't figure why a vet in Wales wants a call about Four. And why it is a cat owner who I've never met suggested the seditive. And why 50 people from all over the United States, England, Finland, Australia, and other countries I don't remeber right now are pulling for the little guy. RPCA is an awesome bunch indeed. Do you think he would understand the Power of the Purr?
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Christina Websell - 14 Dec 2007 21:00 GMT > Changes, changes, changes. Changes that happened and changes that will > happen. I moved the loaded trap from the Laundry Room to the Porch last [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > remeber right now are pulling for the little guy. RPCA is an awesome bunch > indeed. Do you think he would understand the Power of the Purr? No, probably not. I happened to mention once to the vet when KFC was there that she had e-mails from all over the world for her recovery. I got a very funny look, like I was making it up. Whatever will work to get Four healed and sorted gets my vote.
Tweed
Granby - 14 Dec 2007 21:23 GMT When I had my Scooter Dog put to sleep, what a way to put it, anyway, I took with me copies of all the wonderful thoughts from the people on rec.pets.cats.community and made him promise to send them with her when she was cremated. He did this and informed me that he, the man at the crematorium and some of the workers made copies of them because they were so filled with feeling. I just wanted these thoughts and a copy of "the venture" to go with Scooter when we scattered her ashes. Most folks would get it, I wouldn't have three years ago.
>> Changes, changes, changes. Changes that happened and changes that will >> happen. I moved the loaded trap from the Laundry Room to the Porch last [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Tweed Charleen Welton - 14 Dec 2007 22:00 GMT Ohhhhh, what a beautiful, heart strings tugging story. What a wonderful thought you had for a beautiful send off for Scooter Dog wrapped in love and kindness. I will never forget you telling this Granby. Thank you.
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> When I had my Scooter Dog put to sleep, what a way to put it, anyway, I > took with me copies of all the wonderful thoughts from the people on [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >> >> Tweed Charleen Welton - 14 Dec 2007 21:55 GMT My Goodness Tweed, next time she goes to the vet we'll send all the cards there!!! That'll show him!
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>> Changes, changes, changes. Changes that happened and changes that will >> happen. I moved the loaded trap from the Laundry Room to the Porch last [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Tweed Steve Touchstone - 15 Dec 2007 11:24 GMT >No, probably not. I happened to mention once to the vet when KFC was there >that she had e-mails from all over the world for her recovery. I got a very >funny look, like I was making it up. >Whatever will work to get Four healed and sorted gets my vote. > >Tweed It certainly surprised my TED when Rocky was there fighting his last fight. When I arrived with Rocky I told him I was short on money but wanted everything done for Rocky that he could do. The next day when I checked in on Rocky he told me he was getting calls and donations for the bill from all over the world. Rocky didn't make it, but donations from the group more than covered the bill, and left a credit balance which went towards helping cover the cost for other needy cats.
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Charleen Welton - 15 Dec 2007 12:54 GMT Fantastic. The first time I remember this happening was many, many years ago and it was for a kitty named Jill. I think it was with Helen S (?) in England and the cat was injured when hit by a car. No one claimed the kitty so she was named for the woman who found her. The cat recovered nicely as I remember. The vet's office there, too, was overwhelmed by the outpouring of love, caring and money. Someone who remembers the story better than I can clarify the facts and hopefully tell us "the rest of the story."
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>>No, probably not. I happened to mention once to the vet when KFC was >>there [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > from the group more than covered the bill, and left a credit balance > which went towards helping cover the cost for other needy cats. bastXXXette@sonic.net - 15 Dec 2007 19:45 GMT > Fantastic. The first time I remember this happening was many, many years > ago and it was for a kitty named Jill. I think it was with Helen S (?) in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > love, caring and money. Someone who remembers the story better than I can > clarify the facts and hopefully tell us "the rest of the story." Well, I'll never forget when Smudge was attacked by dogs, and required about $900 of medical care - which I, unemployed for almost 3 years by that point and not only broke, but deeply in debt, was completely unable to pay - and people from all over on this newsgroup helped out with her bill until it was completely paid off. The amazing thing was that some people whose names I didn't even recognize, because they're lurkers, helped too. The vet staff were amazed but very pleased when I explained what was happening. This is truly a remarkable group.
Joyce
> >>No, probably not. I happened to mention once to the vet when KFC was > >>there [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > from the group more than covered the bill, and left a credit balance > > which went towards helping cover the cost for other needy cats.
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sam - 16 Dec 2007 00:15 GMT > Fantastic. The first time I remember this happening was many, many years > ago and it was for a kitty named Jill. I think it was with Helen S (?) in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > love, caring and money. Someone who remembers the story better than I can > clarify the facts and hopefully tell us "the rest of the story." It was Helen S and the cat was Waffles (aka WafflyCat). IIRC, Jill was the TED.
Sam
Stormmee - 16 Dec 2007 06:24 GMT > > Fantastic. The first time I remember this happening was many, many years > > ago and it was for a kitty named Jill. I think it was with Helen S (?) in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Sam Marina - 16 Dec 2007 05:39 GMT > Fantastic. The first time I remember this happening was many, many years > ago and it was for a kitty named Jill. I think it was with Helen S (?) in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > love, caring and money. Someone who remembers the story better than I can > clarify the facts and hopefully tell us "the rest of the story." I wasn't here yet at that time, but the story is in the rpca FAQ, which is now hosted by Mark, but it seems I haven't bookmarked the page. Anyone else? Mark?
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Adrian A - 16 Dec 2007 11:54 GMT >> Fantastic. The first time I remember this happening was many, many >> years ago and it was for a kitty named Jill. I think it was with [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > which is now hosted by Mark, but it seems I haven't bookmarked the > page. Anyone else? Mark? http://professional-geek.com/personal/files/html/rpca/rpcafaq.htm
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Aim - 16 Dec 2007 05:55 GMT This group also helped me so much in 2002 when my kitty Jasper (RB) had surgery and then crossed over. I was unemployed at the time, and TED got phone calls from all over the world giving credit card numbers and donating money. His bill was almost entirely covered, and IIRC, I only paid about $50 of it. This group is amazing.
Aim
>> No, probably not. I happened to mention once to the vet when KFC was there >> that she had e-mails from all over the world for her recovery. I got a very [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > from the group more than covered the bill, and left a credit balance > which went towards helping cover the cost for other needy cats. jofirey - 14 Dec 2007 21:37 GMT > Changes, changes, changes. Changes that happened and changes that will > happen. I moved the loaded trap from the Laundry Room to the Porch last [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > remeber right now are pulling for the little guy. RPCA is an awesome bunch > indeed. Do you think he would understand the Power of the Purr? He's a good guy and grew up to be a vet. He may not know it, but he has already experienced the power of purr.
Jo
Charleen Welton - 14 Dec 2007 22:20 GMT Jo, I believe you are right. Dr. Mulero is a stout man in his late 40's possibly early 50's (I'm not good at guessing ages). He speaks with an accent that I can not identify. He extrudes kindness. The first time I met him was the end of last January. Our very, very dear and precious 13 year old Mr. Pumpkin had been attacked by two pit bull dogs in his own yard and they dragged him away. I heard the barking and ran out chasing the evil dogs away. The P was stunned from being shaken violently. I gathered him in my arms and ran accross the two yards screaming for Larry, our roommate. The Pumpkin was alive at that time and hurting I must have jostled him as he reached out and scratched me across the face. St. Francis Vet Clinic is only 12 blocks from my house. I cradled Pumpkin as Larry drove. Half way there Mr. Pumpkin sighed his last breath. We got to the clinic and the girl at the desk got the vet who was Dr. Mulero out of surgery to tend to us. That vet tried and tried and tried so hard to have Pumpkin be not dead. When there was no more he could do he said so kindly, "Your cat has passed away, I'm so sorry." He got a box and gently laid The Pumpkin to rest in it. He didn't know me from a hole in the wall. He would not charge me, I was not a client, I had never set foot in that practice before. You are right, Jo, he is a good guy, a very, very good guy. I'm glad he is taking care of Four. He really does care, Four is not just another cat passing through, not just another account.
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>> Changes, changes, changes. Changes that happened and changes that will >> happen. I moved the loaded trap from the Laundry Room to the Porch last [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Jo Granby - 14 Dec 2007 22:27 GMT When four goes to the Vet, let us know and we will send cards there. Would be a fun to see his face at the number of them if nothing else.
> Jo, I believe you are right. Dr. Mulero is a stout man in his late 40's > possibly early 50's (I'm not good at guessing ages). He speaks with an [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >> >> Jo kimberlysmith - 14 Dec 2007 22:53 GMT > When four goes to the Vet, let us know and we will send cards there. Would > be a fun to see his face at the number of them if nothing else. Count us in!
Granby - 14 Dec 2007 23:04 GMT I just figured than way we wouldn't clog his email and if were in a state of shock, he could look them over more than once.
>> When four goes to the Vet, let us know and we will send cards there. >> Would be a fun to see his face at the number of them if nothing else. > > Count us in! bastXXXette@sonic.net - 15 Dec 2007 02:07 GMT > Our very, very dear and precious 13 year > old Mr. Pumpkin had been attacked by two pit bull dogs in his own yard and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 12 blocks from my house. I cradled Pumpkin as Larry drove. Half way there > Mr. Pumpkin sighed his last breath. Oh, I really feel for you! This is almost what happened to Smudge a couple of years ago. She was also attacked by two pit bulls and shaken (right in front of me!). The whole way to the vet, I was terrified she would die en route. Her injuries turned out to be bad, but not life-threatening. However, it was a harrowing trip. I'm so sorry Pumpkin didn't make it.
> That vet > tried and tried and tried so hard to have Pumpkin be not dead. When there [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > really does care, Four is not just another cat passing through, not just > another account. He is definitely a keeper!
Joyce
Lesley - 15 Dec 2007 18:07 GMT You are right, Jo, he is a
> good guy, a very, very good guy. I'm glad he is taking care of Four. He > really does care, Four is not just another cat passing through, not just > another account. > -- He sounds like a perfect vet and we are sending purrs for him (and okay if you need some help...won't be a lot but every little helps with Four's vet bills I can chip in- a lot of people in the UK are apparently taking advantage of the favourable exchange rates to go to New York for some Xmas shopping so I'll take advantage for a better cause)
He sounds like Kylie (yes she's an Aussie) who got this phone call about a sick cat from a Hoomin at his wits ends and agreed to stay late to see a cat she had never seen before who wasn't even registered with her practice then spent an hour with a distressed slave gently discussing the options until the slave was ready to utter the dreaded words "We are talking about euthanasia here aren't we?" then (over an hour after she should have finished for the day) gave me (the slave) time to sit with Fugazi and say my goodbyes
As a result if you asked me to deal with some vets I've heard of or crawl over broken glass to see her, I'd be down on all fours okay? When Isis was showing signs of old age, she even discouraged me from coming to see her! Isis hated "Outside" to the extent she hid even if her best friends were at the door until that door was closed. She hated vets trips so much Kylie said if she wasn't in pain, eating normally etc- maybe we should weigh up how much taking her to the vet for what? To be told she was getting on and given the way Isis would be traumatised by such a visit it might be cruel to her. She said as long as she was plainly not in pain etc- then wait and see, she said to be honest a visit might be the last straw (we both suspected her next trip to the vets would be the last and felt like if we did that it when she was still alert, eating etc would feel like we were putting her down just for being old) and to only bring her in if she had any symptoms that needed attention- as a result, Isis crossed the Bridge in her sleep at home just after eating her dinner (she was not a cat to leave full food dishes!) and Kylie never charged us for half a ton of free advice
My latest dread is she is talking about going back to Australia- Yowie- how much is it to rent a place down there and can I get a job?!!
Lesley
Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Stormmee - 14 Dec 2007 21:40 GMT sure would I think if he is at home for wife and cat he probably already knows it if not by that name, Lee
> Changes, changes, changes. Changes that happened and changes that will > happen. I moved the loaded trap from the Laundry Room to the Porch last [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > St. Cloud, Florida USA GaDragonfly - 14 Dec 2007 22:24 GMT > Do you think he would understand the Power of the Purr? > -- > Charleen > Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro > The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > St. Cloud, Florida USA Purrs continuing for Four to calm down and accept you. I wonder if some Rescue Remedy in his water would help the situation? If your vet has an email address we could all send him a thank you email with purrs for helping you help Four. Maybe then he'd understand.
Julie, Hobbes, Lacey, Sam and Barnabus
Daniel Mahoney - 14 Dec 2007 22:31 GMT > Purrs continuing for Four to calm down and accept you. I wonder if > some Rescue Remedy in his water would help the situation? If your vet > has an email address we could all send him a thank you email with > purrs for helping you help Four. Maybe then he'd understand. > > Julie, Hobbes, Lacey, Sam and Barnabus I second the suggestion of trying Rescue Remedy. I believe it has worked for me in the past. You might also want to put a Feliway diffuser in the room Four is occupying.
If you are concerned that the doctor might be uneasy with receiving a large number of "thank-you" e-mails, perhaps we could send our messages for the doctor to you, and you could print them out and deliver them to the doctor? He really does sound like a gem.
Dan
Outsider - 15 Dec 2007 02:56 GMT He
> can't figure why a vet in Wales wants a call about Four. And why it > is a cat owner who I've never met suggested the seditive. And why 50 > people from all over the United States, England, Finland, Australia, > and other countries I don't remeber right now are pulling for the > little guy. RPCA is an awesome bunch indeed. Yah, well, Dr. M seems pretty great too. To work with you like this shows he really cares about animals.
Andy
Annie W - 15 Dec 2007 03:40 GMT ... ...> I already know what my New Year's Resolution will be: A healthy; catnip year
> for Four. Dr. M is amazed at the interest in Four. He can't figure why a > vet in Wales wants a call about Four. And why it is a cat owner who I've [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > St. Cloud, Florida USA Charleen, I think you have a wise vet and this is a good plan. I'm sure it will work. Rosie, who is a former feral, has special purrs for Four to recovery from his injury and adapt to a loving home.
You have many more than 50 people and their assorted cats pulling for him.
I'm sure Dr. Mulero will be a believer in the power of purr before this is over.
Cheers, Annie
Susan M - 15 Dec 2007 04:20 GMT > Changes, changes, changes. Changes that happened and changes that will > happen. I moved the loaded trap from the Laundry Room to the Porch last [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > seditive in to the plan and my familiy's ability to care for Four while he > is being treated. I'm rooting for you and Four and eagerly look for updates every day. With the power of purr, I know that you'll get him all fixed up and turned into a spoiled member of your family. That same power of purr has helped reunite me with my wayward cat Otis on numerous occasions and I have great faith in it!
I'll second something that someone else said. Of course I don't know Four at all; however, I did have a semi-feral here once and it turned out that he was really easy to pick up and stick in the cage. Our masters hate being picked up and know to resist the cat carrier; however, this little guy didn't have a clue what a cat carrier was and was completely surprised at suddenly finding himself locked in. He didn't know to try to get away from it.
Who knows - you may be surprised. Sedatives have had the opposite effect on many of my cats and it may just be that, once you have him in and start treatment, that he surprises you with how he adapts. While I know its irritating to get unwanted advice, I might also think carefully about possibly tainting the taste of the food for him with antibiotics. I haven't met a cat yet who doesn't pick up on the flavour and you'd hate to turn him off the one thing that keeps him coming back? You'd also hate for him not to get consistent reliable doses once you start the course of the drugs. Doesn't it do more harm than good to have a little here and a little there? Anyway, I hope you catch him soon!
I send the strongest possible purrs from my boys to you and Four for his eventual treatment and integration into your family. Thank you for caring so much for him.
Susan M Otis and Chester
Marina - 15 Dec 2007 06:20 GMT > Susan M > Otis and Chester Hey, Susan, long time no see!
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Susan M - 15 Dec 2007 20:12 GMT >> Susan M >> Otis and Chester > > Hey, Susan, long time no see! Hi Marina! Yes, I've just been lurking and sending quiet purrs over the past few months. Maybe I'll actually do an update post :-) Glad to see you typing and I've been enjoying your pictures!
Susan M Otis and Chester
Granby - 15 Dec 2007 07:55 GMT How did four get the name?
>> Changes, changes, changes. Changes that happened and changes that will >> happen. I moved the loaded trap from the Laundry Room to the Porch last [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > Susan M > Otis and Chester Charleen Welton - 15 Dec 2007 12:58 GMT David and I had three cats for many years; Mr. Pumpkin, Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro. When the situation with Four arose he was referred to as the fourth cat because I gave him so much time and attention. That eventually became shortened to Four. He appears to respond to it but as David tells me, gently, You're usually carrying food for him when he responds to his name, dear."
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> How did four get the name? >>> Changes, changes, changes. Changes that happened and changes that will [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> Susan M >> Otis and Chester Marina - 15 Dec 2007 06:12 GMT > Do you think he would understand the Power of the Purr? Tell him there have been studies that show that the frequency of purrs is one that will help heal bones. So there's scientific proof that purrs can heal. :)
Your plan sounds good. Patience purrs that you can take things slow enough with Four. I know I'd be impatient to integrate him into the family already. Purrs also for the upcoming remodelling - hope the noise doesn't scare Four too much.
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Charleen Welton - 15 Dec 2007 13:01 GMT I will tell him that, someone else referred to the healing power of the purr also. I'll google it and bring printed proof. I sure hope the remodel goes well too, it is sure going to be inconvienent. Thank you for the purrs they are being put to the best of uses.
 Signature Charleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA
>> Do you think he would understand the Power of the Purr? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > already. Purrs also for the upcoming remodelling - hope the noise doesn't > scare Four too much. dberry@mitre.org - 17 Dec 2007 17:47 GMT Purrs and positive thoughts for Four to eat his food with the antibiotics and to get comfortable enough with you to make a vet visit.
Debbie and kitties (Daisy, Anna, Sabrina, Patty, and Patience)
> Changes, changes, changes. Changes that happened and changes that will > happen. I moved the loaded trap from the Laundry Room to the Porch last [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > meal. He should be able to swallow it right down. This will beging the > healing process for the neck wound. <some snipped>
> -- > Charleen > Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro > The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > St. Cloud, Florida USA Charleen Welton - 17 Dec 2007 18:22 GMT Thank you for them. Things are getting better every day. He has gone from hissing and a swipe at me to rubbing against my legs when I come out with food or to visit with him. He is an interesting cat for sure.
 Signature Charleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA
> Purrs and positive thoughts for Four to eat his food with the > antibiotics and to get comfortable enough with you to make [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >> St. Cloud, Florida USA
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