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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / December 2007A Cat Named Four Progress Report 1
Tuesday, Dec. 11 2007 Success and Failure: At 5:00am I propped open the front door so Victor could go out and come in while I was getting the porch ready for Four to arrive about 7:30. I placed two big stacks of telephone books in front of the flap between the porch and office. I taped the porch door shut so no one would accidently open it and give him an opening to leave in a hurry! I put in place the kitty litter box I had scrubbed and filled with fresh litter. The Hav-A-Hart trap is in place. I went from the porch through the laundry room to the kitchen and there sitting in the middle of the floor was Four! Wow, this is working! I set his food down butted right up to the door of the trap and he was not the least bit uncomfortable. After he finished eating he had a good washing and he wandered around the porch, I thought he was settling down. Foolish me. The next thing I heard was a swooshing noise and I looked into the office to the flap between the office and porch. Four, with his head, pushed 27 pounds of telephone books aside in a wink and was through the house and out the door that was still open for Victor like a flash! What a disappointment. Larry, our roommate has levered some two by fours into place against the flap. Four should not be able to open it again. I went on the other side and pushed and pushed on it, it is secure. The question now is whether or not he will return. I hope, truly hope so.  SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA you are ready for him, he will return, after its his onetruehome, Lee > Tuesday, Dec. 11 2007 > Success and Failure: At 5:00am I propped open the front door so Victor [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > St. Cloud, Florida USA Lee, I hope so, I hope so. It is 7:30am as I write this and he is not here yet, it is later than he usually arrives. Keep the purrs coming! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > you are ready for him, he will return, after its his onetruehome, Lee >> Tuesday, Dec. 11 2007 [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >> St. Cloud, Florida USA reading and purring, Lee > Lee, I hope so, I hope so. It is 7:30am as I write this and he is not here > yet, it is later than he usually arrives. Keep the purrs coming! [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > >> St. Cloud, Florida USA Well Lee there isn't much to read about today as Four has not returned. I keep hoping and have looked out the window and gone to the door about a hundred times. Maybe he will return for the night time meal. I spoke last week with the lady who was feeding him, Violet, and she agreed that she would not feed him any more hoping to drive him back here. It worked for a week. Let's hope he is real hungry tonight and returns. Please, please keep those purrs coming. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > reading and purring, Lee >> Lee, I hope so, I hope so. It is 7:30am as I write this and he is not [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA maybe you could check with her too see if she has seen him? Lee, almost as desperate as you are > Well Lee there isn't much to read about today as Four has not returned. I > keep hoping and have looked out the window and gone to the door about a [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA Good idea. I stopped by there this morning and left a note taped to her door. She works during the day. I hope she calls me this evening. I don't want to leave the my house about the time she gets home as that would be the same time that Four would/could/might be arriving here. I don't want to miss him. I went to the Tractor Supply Store this afternoon (St. Cloud is a cattle raising community) and priced wire cages. I can get a nice big one at a reasonable price. I must be thinking positive!! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > maybe you could check with her too see if she has seen him? Lee, almost > as [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] >> >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >> >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA there is no choice but to think positive, negative thoughts not only damage his chances but your attitude and family, hang in there, Lee > Good idea. I stopped by there this morning and left a note taped to her > door. She works during the day. I hope she calls me this evening. I don't [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] > >> >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > >> >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA I'm thinking positive, I'm thinking positive. I'm positive that he hasn't shown up yet (5:00pm). He has arrived as late as 6:30. Maybe he will arrive by then. You are correct that a negative demeanor is obvious to all around. I am trying to be hopeful. I really think that my problem is that I want him here and then to the vets NOW! So many on the board have shared that it doesn't always happen that way, but that it does happen eventually. I need to be comforted with that information. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > there is no choice but to think positive, negative thoughts not only > damage [quoted text clipped - 120 lines] >> >> >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >> >> >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA > I'm thinking positive, I'm thinking positive. I'm positive that he hasn't > shown up yet (5:00pm). He has arrived as late as 6:30. Maybe he will arrive [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > doesn't always happen that way, but that it does happen eventually. I need > to be comforted with that information. Maybe you need to focus on something else for a while? I don't mean that in a snide or sarcastic way at all. But you know that old saying, "A watched pot never boils"? Maybe a watched trap never gets filled. :) Sounds like you might be driving yourself a bit nuts watching and waiting. Go off and do something else, don't think about Four for a while, and maybe you'll come back and be pleasantly surprised. Or, if not, at least you'll have had a pleasant time in the meantime. That's my advice, anyway - not that you asked for any. :) Joyce Joyce, you were right, I needed to loosen up a bit., quite a bit. I went to bed early and read a cat mystery by a favorite author which relaxed me quite a bit. Everyone here has told me he will come back and I believe you all because of your years of experience and love of cats and innate knowlege of feline behavior. Thank you for caring as much as you do. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > > I'm thinking positive, I'm thinking positive. I'm positive that he > > hasn't [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Joyce focus on the eventuality otherwise he might surprise you again, Lee > I'm thinking positive, I'm thinking positive. I'm positive that he hasn't > shown up yet (5:00pm). He has arrived as late as 6:30. Maybe he will arrive [quoted text clipped - 133 lines] > >> >> >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > >> >> >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA I surely don't want any more surprises like the last one! He is amazing. I weighed those phone books: 27 pounds. He is such a beautiful cat and has such a lovely disposition. I hope the eventuality is that Aggie Marble can adjust to him being here and that this is his forever home. Time will tell and I will be patient. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > focus on the eventuality otherwise he might surprise you again, Lee >> I'm thinking positive, I'm thinking positive. I'm positive that he [quoted text clipped - 161 lines] >> >> >> >> >> The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin >> >> >> >> >> St. Cloud, Florida USA > I'm thinking positive, I'm thinking positive. I'm positive that he > hasn't shown up yet (5:00pm). He has arrived as late as 6:30. Maybe he [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > that it does happen eventually. I need to be comforted with that > information. Well, keep in mind, he has had this wound 3 years. So, hang in there. A day or two added to the plan is not a failure. I, like the others, am sure he will return at some point. Thank you Karen. I believe it also. Thank you for reminding me that the plan is not a failure, just a minor set back. I hope to have a great progess report soon, it will be on his time though! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> I'm thinking positive, I'm thinking positive. I'm positive that he >> hasn't shown up yet (5:00pm). He has arrived as late as 6:30. Maybe he [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > day or two added to the plan is not a failure. I, like the others, am sure > he will return at some point. > Thank you Karen. I believe it also. Thank you for reminding me that the > plan is not a failure, just a minor set back. I hope to have a great progess > report soon, it will be on his time though! I'm coming late to this thread because of my computer probs, but we are purring all the time for Four to be trapped ASAP. SignatureMarina Thanks so very much Marina. After all is said and then done I know it will be for the best. I am selfish enough to want to have Four be happy enough here to live with us. But realize that this may not be his Forever Home. Wherever he goes to live there will be one very happy family. He is a wonderful animal and his ability to converse through meows, tilts of the head, eye movements and so on is endearing and how can you not love that cute crooked ear! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Thank you Karen. I believe it also. Thank you for reminding me that the >> plan is not a failure, just a minor set back. I hope to have a great >> progess report soon, it will be on his time though! > > I'm coming late to this thread because of my computer probs, but we are > purring all the time for Four to be trapped ASAP. Thanks Marina, we are collecting all the purrs we can get. Victor, a Mir Mir look-a-like, is no longer fased by Four wandering around and coming in and out of the porch to eat. Aggie Marble is still the unknown factor. She is 13 yo, a spayed, overweight, black and silver, short hair tabby. She has issues, nurouses, complexes. Her adjustment to Four will determine if this will be Four's Forever Home. Keep the purrs coming! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Thank you Karen. I believe it also. Thank you for reminding me that the >> plan is not a failure, just a minor set back. I hope to have a great >> progess report soon, it will be on his time though! > > I'm coming late to this thread because of my computer probs, but we are > purring all the time for Four to be trapped ASAP. >Well Lee there isn't much to read about today as Four has not returned. I >keep hoping and have looked out the window and gone to the door about a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >week. Let's hope he is real hungry tonight and returns. Please, please keep >those purrs coming. Purrs that he returns soon, that you can get him caught and TED can fix the problem. While Rocky was still just Whitey, the mostly white feral tom cat that I fed, I had to catch him a couple times for trips to TED. Each time he avoided me for a while afterwards, but he always came back. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit, Spot, Princess and Furby with loving memories of Rocky (RB) No luck so far today and it is now dark out. Maybe tomorrow. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > >>Well Lee there isn't much to read about today as Four has not returned. I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > to TED. Each time he avoided me for a while afterwards, but he always > came back. Do you think he was freaked out by the whole incident? Dewi > Do you think he was freaked out by the whole incident? > > Dewi I bet he'll be back. Patience sweety. Suz&Spicey Pawess: I actually heard her purr this AM. Usually I have to put my ear against her. She was visiting me at 5am before I got up. I need that patience, could you please package it and send it along, I'd like the large size please. I hope you win your bet. It is going on 8am as I write this and Four is usually here by now, not yet this morning. Between Spicey's cute belly and lovely purrs you have got yourself a Superior Cat! More scritches to her for me and let her know they are from me as I certainly can't give them to her myself or I'd lose some fingers! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA On Dec 11, 6:10?pm, Dewi <widget4...@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > Do you think he was freaked out by the whole incident? > > Dewi I bet he'll be back. Patience sweety. Suz&Spicey Pawess: I actually heard her purr this AM. Usually I have to put my ear against her. She was visiting me at 5am before I got up. > I need that patience, could you please package it and send it along, > I'd like the large size please. I hope you win your bet. It is going [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > from me as I certainly can't give them to her myself or I'd lose some > fingers! He may not turn up today, maybe not tomorrow, but he wii be back sometime I'm sure of it. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Oh Adrian, I so glad to hear you say that. I'm begining to believe it myself. I hope so. With all the peole pulling for him that are he has to return and be captured lovelingly, seen by a wonderful vet, and made well by people who are caring, purring and praying for him. My family is, that includes my adult daughters in greater Boston, as well as my in-laws remotely, all you wonderful caring and understanding people and the one who surprises me the most, Larry, our roommate. Now Larry likes cat okay, he perfers dogs. But Larry is also task orientated. the fact that Four got away and needs to be caught and cared for is viewed by Larry as a challening task. He has 2 x 4's across the window flap that Four got out so he won't get out it again. He has checked the porch over very, very carefully so there is no possiblity of escape (I had already done that 10 times, but that does't count, Larry is on a crusade!) His next project is to wire the Have-A-Hart trap as Joyce suggested. If that doesn't work I'm sure he will get a net and do as was suggest by Bettina. I'm sure Four will return and be taken care of. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> I need that patience, could you please package it and send it along, >> I'd like the large size please. I hope you win your bet. It is going [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > He may not turn up today, maybe not tomorrow, but he wii be back sometime > I'm sure of it. > But Larry is also task orientated. the fact that Four got away > and needs to be caught and cared for is viewed by Larry as a challening [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > does't count, Larry is on a crusade!) His next project is to wire the > Have-A-Hart trap as Joyce suggested. I'm flattered to get credit for this idea, but it was someone else's. I'm sorry that I don't remember who it was, though. I thought it was a great idea. (You're talking about running a string from the trap through the window, so all you have to do is give it a tug to spring it?) Joyce If that doesn't work I'm sure he will > get a net and do as was suggest by Bettina. I'm sure Four will return and > be taken care of. > >> I need that patience, could you please package it and send it along, > >> I'd like the large size please. I hope you win your bet. It is going [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > He may not turn up today, maybe not tomorrow, but he wii be back sometime > > I'm sure of it. SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. Sorry Joyce, I thought it was from you. It was Kim. Larry loves it. I'll be so glad when Four is captured, vetted, homed here for a while and then goes to his Forever Home which I hope, hope, hope is here. This all depends on how Aggie Marble is able to adjust to Four in the house. She is 13 years old, a former feral cat and has many issues. She has been on Kity Valium three times in her life. She does not handle change well at all. Some purrs for her please if you have any more to spare. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > > But Larry is also task orientated. the fact that Four got away > > and needs to be caught and cared for is viewed by Larry as a challening [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > > sometime > > > I'm sure of it. Yes Dewi, and I was to!! I'm so concerned that he feels again that another trust has been broken, that he can't trust anyone for anything. I'm hoping he returns today and that I can feed him and make him comfortable on the porch. I was absolutly amazed that he was so powerful or so desperate or the combination of both to move 27 pounds of teelpone books out of the way with one mighty push and get away. I keep looking for him to be on the porch this morning sitting quietly like the gentleman that he is waiting for his breakfast. I'll keep you updated. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > Do you think he was freaked out by the whole incident? > > Dewi I was hoping he leisurely pushed away those telephone books. Well my old cat Tommy (RB), who was one of those tom cats I mentioned, was trapped and released twice and he still came back for food. I was trying to catch a stray kitten when he wandered on into the trap. Sigh... I guess all you can do is wait. Hopefully he will get hungry enough to return. Sending purrs and good vibes. Dewi > Yes Dewi, and I was to!! I'm so concerned that he feels again that another > trust has been broken, that he can't trust anyone for anything. I'm hoping [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > Dewi > Tuesday, Dec. 11 2007 > Success and Failure: At 5:00am I propped open the front door so Victor [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > and pushed and pushed on it, it is secure. The question now is whether or > not he will return. I hope, truly hope so. Charleen, I was reading your posts at work and wasn't able to reply (company policy) but I'm home now so I can respond. I've had some small experience with very trap-wise kitties and the previous comment about needing a "remote" was right on. Here's how I rigged up my own "remote". If you look at the trap, there is a hook-like thingy that, if you pull on it, triggers the trap. Even if your trap isn't the same as mine, the general idea should apply. I put the trap where I could see it from inside my apartment through the kitchen window. I tied a string to the hook and stretched it through the window. You want it very tight, so that just a tiny twitch will spring the trap. Too much slack and the kitty will notice it moving and bolt before it springs. Then it's just a matter of baiting it, looking through the window until the kitty is happily wolfing down some prime offerings, giving a short sharp tug on the string and kitty is trapped. Worked like a charm for me several times with several different strays. The key is to have everything set on a hair trigger, so nothing in the trap or the string has to move more than a tiny bit to spring the trap. Keep us posted and good luck! Bless you for caring enough to go to this much trouble. He is a very lucky kitty, indeed. --Kim Kim, great, thanks. Four, as Helen explained, is very trap aware and wary. This good information and I put Larry right on it. He is determined to get that cat!! But then we all are aren't we? Today Pouchie and Thug were visiting and mouching. These are household cats that like to eat my cats food for the sport of it! I like to see them around. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Tuesday, Dec. 11 2007 >> Success and Failure: At 5:00am I propped open the front door so Victor [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > --Kim > Kim, great, thanks. Four, as Helen explained, is very trap aware and wary. > This good information and I put Larry right on it. He is determined to get > that cat!! But then we all are aren't we? Today Pouchie and Thug were > visiting and mouching. These are household cats that like to eat my cats > food for the sport of it! I like to see them around. Purrs continuing here for four to come back soon. Sam Thank you so much Sam. I believe in the power of the purr so he will be back, the question is When? And then hopefully he will have a very good vet report. We know the wound has to be dealt with and here is hoping that he is otherwise well. We sure know he is strong after he was able to shove the 27 pounds of phone books out of his way to freedom! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Kim, great, thanks. Four, as Helen explained, is very trap aware and >> wary. This good information and I put Larry right on it. He is determined [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Sam > Larry, our roommate has levered some two by fours into place against the > flap. Four should not be able to open it again. I went on the other side [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin > St. Cloud, Florida USA He'll be back Charleen, I have faith. Lacey is sending headbutts to you, Dave and Larry for trying to take care of Four. At least that's what I think she's saying, she's headbutting my boob actually, but that's what Lacey does...its a strange Lacey thing. She's also purring up a storm as are Hobbes, Sam and Barnabus for a successful capture on Friday. Julie, Hobbes, Lacey, Sam and Barnabus > Lacey is sending headbutts to > you, Dave and Larry for trying to take care of Four. At least that's > what I think she's saying, she's headbutting my boob actually, but > that's what Lacey does...its a strange Lacey thing. Ha - at least you get headbutts. I get claws. Both Roxy and Smudge love to knead my breast (left breast only - go figure) with claws extended. Also, when I hold Roxy over my shoulder, it's always the left shoulder, and she digs her rear claws you-know-where. (I also have a maze of kitty claw scars on the back of my left shoulder.) Today I had a mammogram - I wonder what the tech thought when she saw all the red scratch marks? :) Joyce On Dec 12, 12:02 am, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > > Lacey is sending headbutts to > > you, Dave and Larry for trying to take care of Four. At least that's [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Joyce roflol, well, if it makes you feel any better, Lacey only headbutts my left breast. I mean, I know I'm past 50 and gravity has started taking its toll on my body but I don't think I look like a lactating mamma kat. At least not yet! Julie You and your crew have me chuckling and I needed that as I am becoming more and more depressed as time goes by and Four has not returned. But so many of the writers have encouraged me believing that he will return. It may not be today, it may be tomorrow or the next day but he will be back. This morning the stray Thug came by and flipped me the bird as I bid him good-by. He is one of 3 well fed, healthy cats who come by and come into the house and eat our cats food for the sport of it. Just have to love cats, all kinds, sizes, shapes, colors and personalities. SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA > >> Larry, our roommate has levered some two by fours into place against the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Friday. > Julie, Hobbes, Lacey, Sam and Barnabus > Tuesday, Dec. 11 2007 <snip> > Larry, our roommate has levered some two by fours into place against > the flap. Four should not be able to open it again. I went on the > other side and pushed and pushed on it, it is secure. The question > now is whether or not he will return. I hope, truly hope so. He'll be back. I have no doubts whatsoever and sooner or later you _will_ catch him. Continuing purrs. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Thank you Adrian for your confidence in both Four and David, Larry and me. This is begining to take of the proportions of "It takes a Villiage to Raise a Child." The vet and his office is pulling for success. Helen and her vet, Michael, from England, are very interested and helpful enough to be emailing and making phone calls. All of you have been so grand about sharing your stories. I have never had to capture a cat before even in all the many years I have been a cat person. Your experiences and rewarding outcomes are boistering me by the minute! Thank you! SignatureCharleen Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro The Spirit of Mr. Pumpkin St. Cloud, Florida USA >> Tuesday, Dec. 11 2007 > <snip> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Continuing purrs. > Thank you Adrian for your confidence in both Four and David, Larry and me. > This is begining to take of the proportions of "It takes a Villiage to Raise > a Child." LOL!! I think you're right. More purrs from California. :) Joyce > The vet and his office is pulling for success. Helen and her > vet, Michael, from England, are very interested and helpful enough to be [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > > Continuing purrs. SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name.
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