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Bettina - 11 Dec 2007 19:30 GMT
Took 'em by surprise. Have a look. Sooo beautiful.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightwell/
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 11 Dec 2007 19:40 GMT
> Took 'em by surprise. Have a look. Sooo beautiful.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightwell/

Hey, you said there were 4 kittens - I see 5!

The tortie and the cream-and-black are both girls, yes. Their coloring
gives them away. Can't tell about the others, of course.

They really are beautiful. This reminds me of the thread we just
had about "which type of cat would you like?" - where people were
saying "I want a black cat, an orange cat, a tabby," etc. Sounds
like you got one of each in this bunch. :)

Joyce
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 11 Dec 2007 19:47 GMT
>  > Took 'em by surprise. Have a look. Sooo beautiful.
>  > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightwell/

> Hey, you said there were 4 kittens - I see 5!

Oops, I counted one of them twice - the stripey one ("kitten 3"). He/she
was in two photos and I didn't notice it was the same kitty. Must have
been because of the advanced state of kitten fever.

Joyce
Bettina - 11 Dec 2007 19:50 GMT
>  > Took 'em by surprise. Have a look. Sooo beautiful.
>  >http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightwell/
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>
> Joyce

Thanks to god it`s only 4 of them.<g>
Tommy is two times there, one time in the pic with Lily.
But I went in a second time to get better shots.

That`s what I think too, the Tortie and Lily should be girls.
Tommy and the black one could be tomcats.

We`ll see.<bg> Later. Sometime.

I might keep all of them. They are so anxious that I couldn`t even
show them to interested people.
And it breaks my heart to keep them for days in the bathroom.
But my other ones? Well, they are accustomed to new house-mates.But 4
of them. Hmmmm.

Bettina
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 11 Dec 2007 20:27 GMT
> Thanks to god it`s only 4 of them.<g>
> Tommy is two times there, one time in the pic with Lily.
> But I went in a second time to get better shots.

Yes, see my second post, where I figured that out. :)

> That`s what I think too, the Tortie and Lily should be girls.
> Tommy and the black one could be tomcats.

That black and white tux cat is the crabbiest looking kitten! :)
But I guess if someone left me in a basket in front of a stranger's
house, I'd be crabby too. :) Hope he (or she) is in a better mood
soon.

> I might keep all of them. They are so anxious that I couldn`t even
> show them to interested people.
> And it breaks my heart to keep them for days in the bathroom.
> But my other ones? Well, they are accustomed to new house-mates.But 4
> of them. Hmmmm.

It does seem like a lot of new cats, doesn't it? Your household will
probably adjust, though, especially since they all get to go outside.
That gives them space to adjust their territories and so forth. Also,
these 4 are still kittens - easier to integrate.

But can you afford them??

I can certainly see why you're so tempted. They're very cute.

Joyce
Bettina - 11 Dec 2007 21:20 GMT
On 11 Dez., 21:27, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:

>  > Thanks to god it`s only 4 of them.<g>
>  > Tommy is two times there, one time in the pic with Lily.
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>
> Joyce

Yep - the little tuxedo looks definitely pi**ed. You can`t blame him
though.
Imagine - taken away from your mother, your home, put into a card
board box
and left in the cold (only 1 hour). Put into a huge rabbit cage and
then into an unheated bathroom.
Handled by strangers. Eeek.<g>
He is the one I fell immediately in love with. No clue why.
He is the one where I decided at once to keep at least him. <sigh>

Half an hour ago I was on the point of thinking I would keep the two
girls as it seems
so cruel to hand so fragile ones to strangers. And give the boys away.
Now I am beginning to cheat on myself.
Let`s see, the last headcount came up with 9 cats here. But - ìf I
don`t count Peter as belonging to me, because he only sleeps here in
winter and is the whole day out on the neighbours ground,
I end up with 8 cats which are mine. Hmmm. 8+4=12. Doesn`t feel wrong.
13 does.

At the moment I am playing with the thought of keeping `em all. You
shouldn`t part family.
I am so tempted to just open the bathroom door and let fate take its
way.
The older ones will cautously filter in and meet the aliens. There
will be a lot of hissing and spitting.<g>
But they still got their baby-protection and nobody would hurt them.

But what I know for sure, as it always has worked this way - if I
radiate that "They" are now living here. And that "They" have to be
accepted because from NOW on theyi are family, my others will accept.

If I would not be sure of my decision I would radiate feelings that
would lead my cats to not accept the new ones. That`s true.

Well, I have to sleep about it.

Bettina
Magic Mood Jeep - 11 Dec 2007 22:25 GMT
Wow!  *12* Cats!!!  What can I say.....

Welcome to the 12-Cat Club !!!! (I have 12 cats and 1 dog)

:)

On 11 Dez., 21:27, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
> Bettina <textw...@web.de> wrote:
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>
> Joyce

Yep - the little tuxedo looks definitely pi**ed. You can`t blame him
though.
Imagine - taken away from your mother, your home, put into a card
board box
and left in the cold (only 1 hour). Put into a huge rabbit cage and
then into an unheated bathroom.
Handled by strangers. Eeek.<g>
He is the one I fell immediately in love with. No clue why.
He is the one where I decided at once to keep at least him. <sigh>

Half an hour ago I was on the point of thinking I would keep the two
girls as it seems
so cruel to hand so fragile ones to strangers. And give the boys away.
Now I am beginning to cheat on myself.
Let`s see, the last headcount came up with 9 cats here. But - ìf I
don`t count Peter as belonging to me, because he only sleeps here in
winter and is the whole day out on the neighbours ground,
I end up with 8 cats which are mine. Hmmm. 8+4=12. Doesn`t feel wrong.
13 does.

At the moment I am playing with the thought of keeping `em all. You
shouldn`t part family.
I am so tempted to just open the bathroom door and let fate take its
way.
The older ones will cautously filter in and meet the aliens. There
will be a lot of hissing and spitting.<g>
But they still got their baby-protection and nobody would hurt them.

But what I know for sure, as it always has worked this way - if I
radiate that "They" are now living here. And that "They" have to be
accepted because from NOW on theyi are family, my others will accept.

If I would not be sure of my decision I would radiate feelings that
would lead my cats to not accept the new ones. That`s true.

Well, I have to sleep about it.

Bettina

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Bettina - 12 Dec 2007 02:08 GMT
> Wow!  *12* Cats!!!  What can I say.....
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Ups, I just answered Adrain before reading your post.<g>
So you are the other crazy one. How does it go with 12 cats??
I presume you have a house and they can go out and in as they wish?
In winter my now 9 cats fight for the best places inside. How is it
with 12?
Questions I might be able myself in a few weeks.

Bettina
Enfilade - 12 Dec 2007 02:21 GMT
> > At the moment I am playing with the thought of keeping `em all. You
> > shouldn`t part family.

Okay, if the tux were my boy his name would be "Ordo," after the
character from Republic Commando...a parentless 4 year old who fights
to protect his siblings from certain death...and gets the whole lot of
'em adopted by a Mando training sergeant.

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Magic Mood Jeep - 13 Dec 2007 21:43 GMT
On 11 Dez., 23:26, "Magic Mood Jeep" <Nob...@Nowhere.Net> wrote:
> Wow!  *12* Cats!!!  What can I say.....
>
> Welcome to the 12-Cat Club !!!! (I have 12 cats and 1 dog)
>
> :)

Ups, I just answered Adrain before reading your post.<g>
So you are the other crazy one. How does it go with 12 cats??
I presume you have a house and they can go out and in as they wish?
In winter my now 9 cats fight for the best places inside. How is it
with 12?
Questions I might be able myself in a few weeks.

Bettina

My 12 stay indoors all the time.  We live too close to a major busy street
to let them out.

There are some skirmishes, but mostly they get along, or avoid each other.

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Mishi - 14 Dec 2007 00:27 GMT
>On 11 Dez., 23:26, "Magic Mood Jeep" <Nob...@Nowhere.Net> wrote:
>> Wow!  *12* Cats!!!  What can I say.....
>>
>> Welcome to the 12-Cat Club !!!! (I have 12 cats and 1 dog)
>> :)

>Ups, I just answered Adrain before reading your post.<g>
>So you are the other crazy one. How does it go with 12 cats??
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>There are some skirmishes, but mostly they get along, or avoid each other.

People ask me that when they find out how many kibs I have. (19, with
the little guys) They get along very well, with no major fights in
quite a while. All but the babies have been neutered/spayed, and that
helps alot. My vet will not neuter until they are about 6 months old,
and wants to do the full work up on them before hand. I don't usually
have that done (too much $$$), but because Teddy has to have an
umbilical hernia repaired, it has to be done.

Side note: it has been snowing quite hard here most of the day. For
Braeden, who lives outside  (Her choice - she may come in next week
when it gets quite a bit colder) it was time to make snowballs and
play with them. She pats snow into paw sized balls, then smacks them
around the driveway. It is so cute to watch her! <G>

Mishi
Bettina - 15 Dec 2007 17:25 GMT
> On 11 Dez., 23:26, "Magic Mood Jeep" <Nob...@Nowhere.Net> wrote:
>
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> in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)(c)
> email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) comhttp://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep

Wow, that`s something . All in the house and sort of peace.<g>
It is mostly the tomcats here who, even being neutered and able to go
out, every now and then
get into a hissing and spitting event. Seems to depend of the mood
they are in.
Since the kittens are here (still in hinding under the tiled stove),
my other cats seems to be nervous and in a bad mod. Today and
yesrterday all the tomcats where having stand-ups against each other.
<sigh>
Hope this works out well alltogether.
leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 11 Dec 2007 20:29 GMT
> >  > Took 'em by surprise. Have a look. Sooo beautiful.
> >  >http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightwell/
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How about

Eeeny, Meeny, Miney and Mo? ;o) or

Eins, Zwei, Drei und Vier? ;o) or

Vier kleine Babyskatzen versteckend in der Hecke:

Geldpfennig, James Bond,  „Q" und „M" :o)

Helen M
Bettina - 11 Dec 2007 21:23 GMT
On 11 Dez., 21:29, leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> > >  > Took 'em by surprise. Have a look. Sooo beautiful.
> > >  >http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightwell/
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I usually shout a name loud as if calling someone in a distance.
Names have to be shoutable.<g>

But thanks for your suggestions.<g>
And what a good german you write.

Bettina
leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 11 Dec 2007 23:18 GMT
> But thanks for your suggestions.<g>
> And what a good german you write.
>
> Bettina

Vielen Dank. Meine Brüderleben in Stuttgart, damit ich üben darf mein
Deutsch und der wir in Deutschland gelebt haben, als ich ein Kind war.
Plus es hilft ich, die Sprache zu mögen!

Helen M
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 11 Dec 2007 23:37 GMT
> Vielen Dank. Meine Br?derleben in Stuttgart, damit ich ?ben darf mein
> Deutsch und der wir in Deutschland gelebt haben, als ich ein Kind war.
> Plus es hilft ich, die Sprache zu m?gen!

Just curious, does Br?derleben mean brother-in-law? I know very little
German, so this is just a wild guess. (Well, I do know that Br?der means
brother, and I *think* leben means "love", right? So I'm fishing here...)

Joyce
leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 12 Dec 2007 00:00 GMT
> Just curious, does Br?derleben mean brother-in-law? I know very little
> German, so this is just a wild guess. (Well, I do know that Br?der means
> brother, and I *think* leben means "love", right? So I'm fishing here...)
>
> Joyce

No, basically my typing is crap! Because Miss Lily Whiskers likes to
help!

The general gist, (and my german is really not that good), is

My Brother lives in Stuttgart so I can practice my German and I lived
in Germany as a child. It also helps I like the language!

Helen M
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 12 Dec 2007 00:33 GMT
>  > Just curious, does Br?derleben mean brother-in-law? I know very
> little
> > German, so this is just a wild guess. (Well, I do know that Br?der means
> > brother, and I *think* leben means "love", right? So I'm fishing here...)
> >
> > Joyce

> No, basically my typing is crap! Because Miss Lily Whiskers likes to
> help!

> The general gist, (and my german is really not that good), is

> My Brother lives in Stuttgart so I can practice my German and I lived
> in Germany as a child. It also helps I like the language!

Ah, so "leben" = "live", not "love"? I get that mixed up.

Joyce
Monique Y. Mudama - 12 Dec 2007 01:02 GMT
> >  > Just curious, does Br?derleben mean brother-in-law? I know very
> > little
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>
> Ah, so "leben" = "live", not "love"? I get that mixed up.

"lieben" = "love"

pronounced leebn

brother in law is, um, huh, this is weird.

I know how to say father in law and I would think it would follow the
same pattern, but ...

Ah. It *is* weird

Brother in law is Schwager.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 12 Dec 2007 18:38 GMT
>  > Vielen Dank. Meine Br?derleben in Stuttgart, damit ich ?ben darf mein
>  > Deutsch und der wir in Deutschland gelebt haben, als ich ein Kind war.
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> German, so this is just a wild guess. (Well, I do know that Br?der means
> brother, and I *think* leben means "love", right? So I'm fishing here...)

Ummm... I think there should be a space between "Brüder" and
"leben" (two words, not one).  "Leben" is the German noun
for "life", so I'd assume the phrase says something about a
brother who lives in Stuttgart.
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 12 Dec 2007 18:56 GMT
> Ummm... I think there should be a space between "Br?der" and
> "leben" (two words, not one).  "Leben" is the German noun
> for "life", so I'd assume the phrase says something about a
> brother who lives in Stuttgart.

Well, clearly your analysis is better than mine.

I thought "leben" meant "love", so I was thinking that maybe
Br?der + leben (which I thought was a single, compound word) might
mean "brother-in-law".

Never mind. :)

Joyce
sam - 13 Dec 2007 03:19 GMT
>  > Ummm... I think there should be a space between "Br?der" and
>  > "leben" (two words, not one).  "Leben" is the German noun
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>
> Joyce
If I recall my German from *&* years ago, lieben is the the verb for
love.  Leben is the word for life or live.

Help, Bettina!

Sam
Bettina - 13 Dec 2007 12:12 GMT
> bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
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Ich lebe - I live  or  I am alive
Du lebst - You are living or You are alive
Ich liebe - I love
Ich liebe Dich - I love you
Ich liebe meine Katzen - I love my cats :-)

More ?
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 13 Dec 2007 18:35 GMT
> Ich lebe - I live  or  I am alive
> Du lebst - You are living or You are alive
> Ich liebe - I love
> Ich liebe Dich - I love you
> Ich liebe meine Katzen - I love my cats :-)

Well, now I don't feel quite so dumb for thinking that "lebe" or
"leben" (depending on the person/number, I guess?) meant love - the
two words are very close, at least in the spelling. Do they sound
similar?

Joyce
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 13 Dec 2007 18:52 GMT
>  > Ich lebe - I live  or  I am alive
>  > Du lebst - You are living or You are alive
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> two words are very close, at least in the spelling. Do they sound
> similar?

Not quite.  In German, "ie" is pronounced "ee" as in "seek",
"e" is pronounce "ay" as in "take".  (More or less - there
are actually about four different ways of pronouncing the
letter "e" in German, depending upon the word, but they all
sound alike to my USAian ears.)  Used to drive me nuts when
my German voice coach would correct my German by saying,
"No, no - it should be pronounced 'ay', not 'ay'!" - to my
ears he was pronouncing both the same.
Bettina - 13 Dec 2007 19:03 GMT
On 13 Dez., 19:35, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:

>  > Ich lebe - I live  or  I am alive
>  > Du lebst - You are living or You are alive
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>
> Joyce

Leben-  the "e`s" pronounced like in "get".

Lieben- the "i" pronounced like in "eek" , the "e" pronounced like in
"get".
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 13 Dec 2007 18:44 GMT
>>bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
>>
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> Ich liebe Dich - I love you
> Ich liebe meine Katzen - I love my cats :-)

My German was primarily learned by singing it, but shouldn't
the possessive agree with the noun?  ("meinen" - plural,
rather than "meine" - singular?)
Bettina - 13 Dec 2007 19:36 GMT
On 13 Dez., 19:44, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> >>bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
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There are things mixed up here.
God, where are my own grammatical lessons vanished to? How to
explain?
I can`t, it`s too difficult for me and would take a lot of place as in
german grammar
anything seems to be possible and there are lots of exceptions from/of
rules.

possessive singular - "mein  Zeh"      = my toe.   (der Zeh -
singular, masculine)
possessive plural    -  "meine Zehen" = my toes.

possssive singular  - "meine Handtasche"  = my handbag.  (die
Handtasche - singular, feminin)
possessive plural    - "meine Handtaschen = my handbags

possssive singular  - "mein Auto"    = my car  (das Auto - singular,
neutrum)
possessive plural   - "meine Autos" = my cars

Obviously the possessive goes with the gender of the noun. (we have
three genders)
But sometimes it is the same possessive as used with another gender.
God, I have no clue about the exceptions.<g>

There are several different rules applying here+exceptions. I know
that but can`t explain right now.
If anyone would like to go deeper into that I happily will find out
for him.
It is about 30 years ago that I got my own language grammar explained.
I just use it.<g>

There is no possessive word "meinen".
"meinen" comes from the noun "Meinung" = opinion // "Meiner Meinung
nach... - in my opininon...//

I am pretty sure no one wishes to use this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_grammar

German grammar is really awful to deal with.
Bettina
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 13 Dec 2007 20:24 GMT
> If anyone would like to go deeper into that I happily will find out
> for him.
> It is about 30 years ago that I got my own language grammar explained.
> I just use it.<g>

Never ask a person to explain the grammar of their own language. :)

I can explain Spanish grammar a lot better than I can English. Of
course, part of the reason for that is that Spanish grammar is much
more orderly and sensible. But also, I learned it when I was in my
20s, as a non-native speaker, and had to have it explained in a
theoretical, systematic way. Whereas I learned English grammar mostly
by osmosis. My 8th grade English teacher tried to instill some theory,
and I remember some of it, but she lost me when we started learning
about different "cases". As you said, I just use it. :)

Joyce
Bettina - 14 Dec 2007 17:50 GMT
On 13 Dez., 21:24, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:

>  > If anyone would like to go deeper into that I happily will find out
>  > for him.
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>
> Joyce

Thank you for understanding my difficulties here. I even forgot the
right grammatical terms and had to work around them.<g>
MatSav - 13 Dec 2007 21:18 GMT
> There are things mixed up here.
> God, where are my own grammatical lessons vanished to? How to
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> have
> three genders)

... four, if you include plural!
...and four cases (Nominative, Accusitive, Genitive, Dative) !
How well I remember that little table I learned in order to use
the correct article. It's on the Wikipedia link, of course.

I nearly always used the correct article and declination. I guess
I just had a good memory, or a natural flair for languages.
"Einem von dieses, bitte" - "one of those, please" was one of the
more extreme examples I recall! My teacher couldn't understand
how I managed to get such a high score in the aural exam - 95% -
"Du nichts im klasse gut sind!" :-) The one example of German
grammar the teacher refused to teach was third person past
participle (zum beispiel: "He said that she said...".)
Apparently, that's REALLY difficult!

> I am pretty sure no one wishes to use this link:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_grammar

I did! What a clear explanation! But it still doesn't tell me how
to do "He said that she said..." :-)

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Magic Mood Jeep - 13 Dec 2007 21:47 GMT
>> There are things mixed up here.
>> God, where are my own grammatical lessons vanished to? How to
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> I did! What a clear explanation! But it still doesn't tell me how to do
> "He said that she said..." :-)

I think this video explains everything:

They took the dialogue, and (using a popular website that translates),
translated it from English, to French, to German, then back to French, and
then back to English.  In the video, they speak what the result of their
translation efforts were, but the subtitles are the original English.
http://www.stupidvideos.com/video/just_plain_stupid/Lost_in_Translation_2/

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Bettina - 15 Dec 2007 17:27 GMT
> >> There are things mixed up here.
> >> God, where are my own grammatical lessons vanished to? How to
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But there still are people convinced they could use a machine
translation to get something translated.
Not possible. Machines can't think.<g>
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 15 Dec 2007 19:15 GMT
> But there still are people convinced they could use a machine
> translation to get something translated.
> Not possible. Machines can't think.<g>

My doctor likes to dictate his examinations into a computer,
and provides his patients with a printout.  I was quite
amused to read that he had approved my request for a
"handicap lacquer"!  (Because I have difficulty walking long
distances, I have a "handicapped" parking permit - i.e.
"placard".)
Bettina - 14 Dec 2007 17:55 GMT
On 13 Dez., 22:18, "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot |
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> > There are things mixed up here.
> > God, where are my own grammatical lessons vanished to? How to
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Some people just have got a feeling for a special foreign language.
With me it`s English . If I follow my feeling I mostly end up with the
right grammatical usage.
(Not always)<g> It just feels right to use it this or that way.

Seems that you have the German language in your blood.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 14 Dec 2007 23:09 GMT
> On 13 Dez., 19:44, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> <evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>My German was primarily learned by singing it, but shouldn't
>>the possessive agree with the noun?  ("meinen" - plural,
>>rather than "meine" - singular?)

> There is no possessive word "meinen".
> "meinen" comes from the noun "Meinung" = opinion // "Meiner Meinung
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> German grammar is really awful to deal with.
> Bettina

Probably why my spoken German is pretty well limited to
"Gruss Gott", "Guten Abend", "Bitte", "Danke" and "Wo sind
die Toileten?"
Jack Campin - bogus address - 14 Dec 2007 23:40 GMT
>> I am pretty sure no one wishes to use this link:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_grammar
>> German grammar is really awful to deal with.
> Probably why my spoken German is pretty well limited to
> "Gruss Gott", "Guten Abend", "Bitte", "Danke" and "Wo sind
> die Toileten?"

http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/jod/texts/twain.german.html

My German comes from the texts of Schubert songs, a university
"German for scientists" course, and the multilingual packaging
on Lidl products.  Give me a poem about the devil leading a
flaxen-haired young girl to damnation by means of a microwave
laser and then preserving her body in sodium nitrite, and I'll
understand it perfectly.

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Lesley - 15 Dec 2007 19:08 GMT
On 14 Dec, 15:40, Jack Campin - bogus address <bo...@purr.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

.  Give me a poem about the devil leading a
> flaxen-haired young girl to damnation by means of a microwave
> laser and then preserving her body in sodium nitrite, and I'll
> understand it perfectly.

ROFLOL!

Lesley

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 15 Dec 2007 19:09 GMT
>>>I am pretty sure no one wishes to use this link:
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_grammar
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> laser and then preserving her body in sodium nitrite, and I'll
> understand it perfectly.

LOL!  My point exactly - I've no problem understanding the
song literature and lyrics of Wagner's operas, but ordinary
conversation......
Bettina - 11 Dec 2007 21:36 GMT
On 11 Dez., 21:29, leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> > >  > Took 'em by surprise. Have a look. Sooo beautiful.
> > >  >http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightwell/
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I could go with "Minnie" for the little Tortoise.
Adrian A - 11 Dec 2007 22:12 GMT
> On 11 Dez., 21:29, leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>
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>
> I could go with "Minnie" for the little Tortoise.

I think I'll need bigger labels for next years cards to fit all the cats'
names on. ;o)
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Bettina - 12 Dec 2007 02:06 GMT
> > On 11 Dez., 21:29, leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
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I am getting the creeps rightr now by thinking of the responsibility I
am about to take on.
But on the other hand - I have learned here, and it helped me, that
there are more people
who are living with 10+ cats. Are there?<g>
Adrian A - 12 Dec 2007 11:12 GMT
> I am getting the creeps rightr now by thinking of the responsibility I
> am about to take on.
> But on the other hand - I have learned here, and it helped me, that
> there are more people
> who are living with 10+ cats. Are there?<g>

At one time I used to deliver televisions and other electrical stuff. One
customer I remeber well, the delivery should have taken about 30 minutes. I
was there for 3 hours, the lady had 27 cats, all rescues, and it took me
that long to pet each one of them.

She did rehome some cats but people kept bringing them to her. She worked as
a postwoman and told me if she didn't have all the cats she wouldn't need to
work.

Every single cat appeared happy and healthy.
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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 12 Dec 2007 18:48 GMT
> At one time I used to deliver televisions and other electrical stuff. One
> customer I remeber well, the delivery should have taken about 30 minutes. I
> was there for 3 hours, the lady had 27 cats, all rescues, and it took me
> that long to pet each one of them.

I did the math - that's 6 or 7 minutes per cat (on average). Which doesn't
seem excessive. :)

Joyce
Adrian A - 12 Dec 2007 21:24 GMT
>> At one time I used to deliver televisions and other electrical
>> stuff. One customer I remeber well, the delivery should have taken
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>
> Joyce

At one point there were three sitting on me. :-)
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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 12 Dec 2007 23:04 GMT
> >> At one time I used to deliver televisions and other electrical
> >> stuff. One customer I remeber well, the delivery should have taken
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> >
> > Joyce

> At one point there were three sitting on me. :-)

Ah, then that would have given you 7 and a half minutes per cat. :)

Still quite reasonable, IMO!

Joyce
Karen - 13 Dec 2007 00:39 GMT
I saw a name that I like for a cat today. Hilde!
Bettina - 13 Dec 2007 12:17 GMT
> I saw a name that I like for a cat today. Hilde!

That`s a nice name too. Thank you.

At the moment they are named:

Lily - the little creamish one.
Molly - the little Tortie.
Tommi - the little Tabby and
Benno - the little Tuxedo.

Problem with names always is that I can't take ones who remember me of
people I didn't or don`t ike.
And I obviously can`t take ones which are used around me like family
and neighbours.

I would have named Benno into Leo. But thats not possible for that
reasons. Leo seems to fit perfekt.<g> Feels just right. But Benno is
as well manly enough I think.
Magic Mood Jeep - 11 Dec 2007 22:28 GMT
On 11 Dez., 21:29, leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On Dec 11, 7:50 pm, Bettina <textw...@web.de> wrote:
>
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>
> Eeeny, Meeny, Miney and Mo? ;o) or

Hey - those were mine!  Except Eeeny became Ernie, Meeny became Mimi, Miney
became Minney (and was adopted out), and Moe is just, well, Moe

> Eins, Zwei, Drei und Vier? ;o) or
>
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I could go with "Minnie" for the little Tortoise.

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Karen - 12 Dec 2007 01:14 GMT
> Took 'em by surprise. Have a look. Sooo beautiful.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightwell/

Awwwww. So cute. They all look a bit shell shocked.
Bettina - 12 Dec 2007 02:10 GMT
> > Took 'em by surprise. Have a look. Sooo beautiful.
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightwell/
>
> Awwwww. So cute. They all look a bit shell shocked.

Please explain that term to a german.<g>
Christine Burel - 12 Dec 2007 04:12 GMT
> Took 'em by surprise. Have a look. Sooo beautiful.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightwell/

Okay, Bettina,

Here are a few ideas for girl names:

Razi

Mallory

Holly

Lani

Karissa

Starla

And boy names:

Cary

Theron

Figaro

Martin

Percival

Cyrus

Neville

Christine B.
Bettina - 13 Dec 2007 12:23 GMT
On 12 Dez., 05:12, "Christine Burel" <cfbureREMOVETH...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> > Took 'em by surprise. Have a look. Sooo beautiful.
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightwell/
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>
> Christine B.

Ahh - "Cary Grant" - I would love to go with that name.<g> But hard to
shout.
And "Holly" I love too. But that one would always reminnd me of a
rather stupid guy I have knewn.
Wouldn`t put that burdon on one of the kitties.

Thanks a lot for the name suggestions.
At the moment the names are:

Lily - for the creamy one.
Molly - for the tortoise one.
Timmi - for the tabby one and
Benno - for the little tuxedo.

"At the moment" means - if , during the next days, some of them seem
not to hear or look at me at their specific name, I would have to try
others. Until it is clear who reacts to what name.
MatSav - 13 Dec 2007 15:38 GMT
> ...
> "At the moment" means - if , during the next days, some of them
> seem
> not to hear or look at me at their specific name, I would have
> to try
> others. Until it is clear who reacts to what name.

"Meine" und "Liebchen"? Just need two more names...

Cats have three names. The name by which we call them, the name
by which other cats know them, and the name which only they know.
(paraphrasing Edward Lear, I think...)

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Marina - 13 Dec 2007 17:23 GMT
> Cats have three names. The name by which we call them, the name
> by which other cats know them, and the name which only they know.
> (paraphrasing Edward Lear, I think...)

I think you mean TS Eliot. :) Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats. On
which Cats, the musical is based.

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Bettina - 13 Dec 2007 17:30 GMT
On 13 Dez., 16:38, "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot |
pipex | dot | com> wrote:

> > ...
> > "At the moment" means - if , during the next days, some of them
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> --
> MatSav

Sorry, can`t do that. If I would be running around my garden shouting
"MEIIINE" or "LIIIIIIEBCHEN"
people here would hold me for really gone crazy.<g>

It is if you would shout loud "Miiiine" or "Daaaarling".
Can`t do that. <g>

There`s a German joke-story about a man in the 1950`s who called his
dog "Fräulein" which means
"Miss" stating, that so he could walk the streets calling loud his dog
and every woman in the strret would turn around.<g>
Cheryl P. - 13 Dec 2007 17:56 GMT
> Sorry, can`t do that. If I would be running around my garden shouting
> "MEIIINE" or "LIIIIIIEBCHEN"
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> "Miss" stating, that so he could walk the streets calling loud his dog
> and every woman in the strret would turn around.<g>

I think it was Terry Pratchett who wrote that you should never give a
cat a name that you would be embarrassed to shout at midnight!
Bettina - 13 Dec 2007 18:57 GMT
> > Sorry, can`t do that. If I would be running around my garden shouting
> > "MEIIINE" or "LIIIIIIEBCHEN"
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> I think it was Terry Pratchett who wrote that you should never give a
> cat a name that you would be embarrassed to shout at midnight!

Good one, as always from him.
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 13 Dec 2007 20:15 GMT
> On 13 Dez., 16:38, "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot |
> pipex | dot | com> wrote:

> > "Meine" und "Liebchen"? Just need two more names...

> Sorry, can`t do that. If I would be running around my garden shouting
> "MEIIINE" or "LIIIIIIEBCHEN"
> people here would hold me for really gone crazy.<g>

> It is if you would shout loud "Miiiine" or "Daaaarling".
> Can`t do that. <g>

This reminds me of a story, which was posted here a number of years
ago, but I don't remember who it was. She had trained her cats to
know the phrase "cat food" - she made sure to say those exact words
several times during feeding times. Finally it got to the point where
if someone idly said those words, her cats would come running.

Well, one day, one of them got lost outside. She said she was walking
around yelling "CAT FOOD" into the bushes and getting weird looks
from people. :)

Joyce
Bettina - 14 Dec 2007 17:49 GMT
On 13 Dez., 21:15, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:

>  > On 13 Dez., 16:38, "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot |
>  > pipex | dot | com> wrote:
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>
> Joyce

Thats a very good idea. Like that.<g>
At the moment I am training the little ones, and it works. Leo  (sorry
renamed him as this name fits like a glove), well, Leo still hisses at
me when my hand reaches under the tiled stove where they took up
residence, but the pieces of ground meat are every time vanished after
a few minutes when I have a look. And the best - it happened two times
today that I walked through the room where they are sitting and heard
such a loud noise, I thought a motor was running. By inspecting the
tiled stove I realized that all four of them must be so satisfied
after the bits of ground meat that all four of them were purring
unisono. That`s loud!. And wonderful.
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 14 Dec 2007 18:56 GMT
> And the best - it happened two times
> today that I walked through the room where they are sitting and heard
> such a loud noise, I thought a motor was running. By inspecting the
> tiled stove I realized that all four of them must be so satisfied
> after the bits of ground meat that all four of them were purring
> unisono. That`s loud!. And wonderful.

Awww! That does sound amazing.

Joyce

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> > And the best - it happened two times
> > today that I walked through the room where they are sitting and heard
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>
> Joyce
annoyed@net.spammers - 15 Dec 2007 22:38 GMT
> > On 13 Dez., 16:38, "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot |
> > pipex | dot | com> wrote:
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>
>Joyce

On that note, an oldie but a goodie ;)

Everybody I know who has a dog usually calls him "Rover" or "Spot". I call
mine Sex. Now, Sex has been very embarrassing to me. When I went to the City
Hall to renew the dog's license, I told the clerk that I would like a
license for Sex. He said, "I would like to have one too!" Then I said, "But
she is a dog!" He said he didn't care what she looked like. I said, "You
don't understand. ... I have had Sex since I was nine years old." He
replied, "You must have been quite a strong boy." When I decided to get
married, I told the minister that I would like to have Sex at the wedding.
He told me to wait until after the wedding was over. I said, "But Sex has
played a big part in my life and my whole world revolves around Sex." He
said he didn't want to hear about my personal life and would not marry us in
his church. I told him everyone would enjoy having Sex at the wedding. The
next day we were married at the Justice of the Peace. My family is barred
from the church from then on.

When my wife and I went on our honeymoon, I took the dog with me. When we
checked into the motel, I told the clerk that I wanted a room for me and my
wife and a special room for Sex. He said that every room in the motel is a
place for sex. I said, "You don't understand. ... Sex keeps me awake at
night." The clerk said, "Me too!"

One day I entered Sex in a contest. But before the competition began, the
dog ran away. Another contestant asked me why I was just looking around. I
told him that I was going to have Sex in the contest. He said that I should
have sold my own tickets. "You don't understand," I said, "I hoped to have
Sex on TV." He called me a show off.

When my wife and I separated, we went to court to fight for custody of the
dog. I said, "Your Honor, I had Sex before I was married but Sex left me
after I was married." The Judge said, "Me too!"

Last night Sex ran off again. I spent hours looking all over for her. A cop
came over and asked me what I was doing in the alley at 4 o'clock in the
morning. I said, "I'm looking for Sex." -- My case comes up next Thursday.

Well now I've been thrown in jail, been divorced and had more damn troubles
with that dog than I ever foresaw. Why just the other day when I went for my
first session with the psychiatrist, she asked me, "What seems to be the
trouble?" I replied, "Sex has been my best friend all my life but now it has
left me for ever. I couldn't live any longer so lonely." and the doctor
said, "Look mister, you should understand that sex isn't a man's best friend
so get yourself a dog."
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leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 13 Dec 2007 20:42 GMT
> Thanks a lot for the name suggestions.
> At the moment the names are:
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> Timmi - for the tabby one and
> Benno - for the little tuxedo.

Miss Lily Whiskers would just like you to know that she thinks "Lily"
is a splendid name for a baby girl-cat. :)

Helen M
Bettina - 14 Dec 2007 17:53 GMT
On 13 Dez., 21:42, leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> > Thanks a lot for the name suggestions.
> > At the moment the names are:
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>
> Helen M

Please give my best to Miss Lily Whiskers.
I just looked a long time at the creamy-striped one and the name Lily
appeared in my mind. She was the first one who got a name.

By the way - if it is about cats should I say "who" or "which", I
choose "who" as I have learned that "which" is used only for things,
and "who" for persons. But I don`t know what is grammatically right.
Adrian A - 14 Dec 2007 18:57 GMT
> On 13 Dez., 21:42, leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>> Thanks a lot for the name suggestions.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> choose "who" as I have learned that "which" is used only for things,
> and "who" for persons. But I don`t know what is grammatically right.

Cats are people as well. :-)
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Bettina - 16 Dec 2007 18:22 GMT
> Bettinawrote:
> > On 13 Dez., 21:42, leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
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Of course they are.<g>
But does english grammar accept that too?
Bettina (always wanting to learn more)
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 16 Dec 2007 21:28 GMT

>> Cats are people as well. :-)

> Of course they are.<g>
> But does english grammar accept that too?
> Bettina (always wanting to learn more)

Yes! :)

Joyce
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Bettina - 25 Dec 2007 17:26 GMT
On 16 Dez., 22:28, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:

>  > "Adrian A" <a...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
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Sorry to be late. This Google doesn`t show me all the new messages. So
I have to search for them.
And miss sometimes some.

Good to know that cats are "whos".<gg>

Bettina
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 14 Dec 2007 19:04 GMT
> By the way - if it is about cats should I say "who" or "which", I
> choose "who" as I have learned that "which" is used only for things,
> and "who" for persons. But I don`t know what is grammatically right.

I think in this case, you have your choice - I think either one would
be considered OK, grammatically. But you have already explained very well
why you would choose to say "who". People who think of cats as things
(or who simply haven't thought about it very much), might say "which"
or "that", but I think of cats as people, so I say "who", also.

Here's a related story:

A friend of mine gets her veggies from an organic farm. They also
raise sheep, and they slaughter some of them each year. You can buy
a whole sheep or half a sheep (they do the butchering!). My friend
ordered some, and at one point, told me, "It's good to know who I'm
eating."

Joyce

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Lesley - 14 Dec 2007 19:17 GMT
> > I think it was Terry Pratchett who wrote that you should never give a
> > cat a name that you would be embarrassed to shout at midnight!
>
> Good one, as always from him.

And someone I know named their cat Poofta- not because they would be
embarassed shouting that at midnight but because they had so much fun
calling the cat in- they lived by a tube station and all these
commuters would be walking past and they'd be standing there shouting
"Poofta! Poofta!" and if anyone threatened to hit them they had the
legiitimate excuse of the cats name

The joke wore thin after a few weeks but by then the kitten was so
used to the name she wouldn't answer to anything else!

Lesley

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polonca12000 - 18 Dec 2007 21:23 GMT
> Took 'em by surprise. Have a look. Sooo beautiful.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightwell/

They are adorable!
Best wishes,
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