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19 1/2  year old cat has ginvitis

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Sannamoo - 10 Dec 2007 20:17 GMT
My 19 1/2 year old cat has ginvitis -  I am afraid to have her sedated at
this age
If I do not have her teeth cleaned, what can I expect the ginvitis to do to
her health?
My vet says she will do a lot of test to see if it is safe to sedate her but
I am really
afraid to do it -  She is in good health other than her teeth (has some
irregular heart beat)
Any suggestions?
Thanks   Rebecca & Katie(my kitty)
Christina Websell - 10 Dec 2007 22:05 GMT
> My 19 1/2 year old cat has ginvitis -  I am afraid to have her sedated at
> this age
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> irregular heart beat)
> Any suggestions?

I have a little cat of 22 years old.  Her teeth are not great, and if she
was half her age I would get them done.
I have decided that the risk of the anaesthetic is greater than the whatever
her teeth will do, at her age.
If your cat was my cat, I would not consider having her teeth cleaned at 19
plus.
It's up to you, of course.  Make your own decision, do not be swayed by the
vet who after all wants to make money,

Tweed
GaDragonfly - 11 Dec 2007 14:46 GMT
> My 19 1/2 year old cat has ginvitis -  I am afraid to have her sedated at
> this age
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks   Rebecca & Katie(my kitty)

Hopefully by now someone has answered you off list and I can't offer
any advice about Katie getting anesthesia, but I can offer purrs and
gentle headbutts that whatever you do Katie's gingivitis doesn't cause
problems.  When Hobbes was having some health problems this past
spring I noticed his gums were bleeding and he had very bad breath.
The vet wanted to get him past the current crisis before she would
even consider anesthesia (his weight is another issue).  She gave me
an antibacterial additive for his water.  Everyone drank it without
issue and it made a huge difference in Hobbes' gums.  Maybe you could
ask your vet about something like that.

Julie, Hobbes, Lacey, Sam and Barnabus (all sending purrs)
Sannamoo - 11 Dec 2007 19:57 GMT
Thank your very much GaDragonfly for responding to me -  I just talked to my
vet and she ask me to find out what the name of the antibacterial additive is
that you gave your cat -
If you could give me that information it would be greatly appreciated -
Thank you very much -   Rebecca &  Katie   =^-^=

>> My 19 1/2 year old cat has ginvitis -  I am afraid to have her sedated at
>> this age
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>
>Julie, Hobbes, Lacey, Sam and Barnabus (all sending purrs)
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 11 Dec 2007 20:22 GMT
> Thank your very much GaDragonfly for responding to me -  I just talked to my
> vet and she ask me to find out what the name of the antibacterial additive is
> that you gave your cat -
> If you could give me that information it would be greatly appreciated -
> Thank you very much -   Rebecca &  Katie   =^-^=

Please post on the newsgroup - I'd like to know, too.

Thanks,
Joyce
GaDragonfly - 11 Dec 2007 21:44 GMT
> Thank your very much GaDragonfly for responding to me -  I just talked to my
> vet and she ask me to find out what the name of the antibacterial additive is
> that you gave your cat -
> If you could give me that information it would be greatly appreciated -
> Thank you very much -   Rebecca &  Katie   =^-^=

I found a message I had posted sometime previously about this and then
also did a search on the ingredients so that your vet determine if
there are any problems with Katie having them.  I can tell you that
this product worked for Hobbes.  I put it in their "favorite" water
bowls and I had two untreated water bowls. They drank this as easily
as they drank the other water.

The water additive is:  C.E.T. Aquadent

C.E.T. Aquadent
Formulated by veterinary dental specialists to help freshen your
pet's
breath and prevent plaque accumulation when used in conjunction with
a
regular home dental care program. Simply add C.E.T. AquaDent to your
pet's drinking water to provide clinically tested dental care every
time your pet drinks.

Directions:
Intended for dogs and cats over 6 months of age. For dogs over 25
lbs.
add two teaspoonfuls (10 mL) of C.E.T. AquaDent to one quart (960 mL)
of fresh drinking water daily. For small dogs under 25 lbs. or cats,
add 1 teaspoonful (5 mL) of C.E.T. AquaDent to one pint (475 mL) of
fresh water.

Provide additional non-treated water as needed. Discard
any treated water not consumed witin 24 hrs. Prepare fresh C.E.T
AquaDent solution each day. As with any product not intended for
human
consumption, please keep out of reach of children.

Ingredients:
Xylitol and Chlorhexidine Gluconate in a proprietary alcohol-free
vehicle. Store at room temperature.

From Xylitol.org:

Studies using xylitol as either a sugar substitute or a small dietary
addition have demonstrated a dramatic reduction in new tooth decay,
along with arrest and even some reversal of existing dental caries.
Xylitol provides additional protection that enhances all existing
prevention methods. This xylitol effect is long-lasting and possibly
permanent. Low decay rates persist even years after the trials have
been completed.

From Drugs.com
Chlorhexidine gluconate is a germicidal mouthwash. It reduces bacteria
in the mouth.  Chlorhexidine gluconate is used to treat gingivitis
(swelling, redness, and bleeding of the gums). Chlorhexidine gluconate
is usually prescribed by a dentist.
CatNipped - 11 Dec 2007 21:49 GMT
>> Thank your very much GaDragonfly for responding to me -  I just talked to
>> my
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> permanent. Low decay rates persist even years after the trials have
> been completed.

I can vouch for that - my dentist told me to buy sugar-free gum or mints
with Xylitol to help kill bacteria.

Hugs,

CatNipped

> From Drugs.com
> Chlorhexidine gluconate is a germicidal mouthwash. It reduces bacteria
> in the mouth.  Chlorhexidine gluconate is used to treat gingivitis
> (swelling, redness, and bleeding of the gums). Chlorhexidine gluconate
> is usually prescribed by a dentist.
Monique Y. Mudama - 11 Dec 2007 21:59 GMT
> Ingredients: Xylitol and Chlorhexidine Gluconate in a proprietary
> alcohol-free vehicle. Store at room temperature.
>
> From Xylitol.org:

Hrm.  From Monique's personal experience: Xylitol causes the runs in a
lot of hoomins; I can only imagine it could have the same impact on
cats.  Use cautiously and use in small amounts at first.  It caused
that problem in a person I know who has a cast-iron gut and normally
can eat anything.

Xylitol is used in a lot of foods marketed toward diabetics; I'm told
a lot of diabetics avoid those foods because of that problem.

> Studies using xylitol as either a sugar substitute or a small
> dietary addition have demonstrated a dramatic reduction in new tooth
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> treat gingivitis (swelling, redness, and bleeding of the gums).
> Chlorhexidine gluconate is usually prescribed by a dentist.

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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 11 Dec 2007 22:11 GMT
> > Ingredients: Xylitol and Chlorhexidine Gluconate in a proprietary
> > alcohol-free vehicle. Store at room temperature.
> >
> > From Xylitol.org:

> Hrm.  From Monique's personal experience: Xylitol causes the runs in a
> lot of hoomins; I can only imagine it could have the same impact on
> cats.  Use cautiously and use in small amounts at first.  It caused
> that problem in a person I know who has a cast-iron gut and normally
> can eat anything.

I have to admit that the words "proprietary ... vehicle" make me nervous.
(I left out "alcohol-free" because that part's just fine with me!)
Apparently, "proprietary" is corporate-speak for "we don't have to tell
you what's in it". They can't get away with that in human food*, but I
guess if a cat is going to eat it, a complete listing of the ingredients
is not required? I'm still gun-shy after the whole melamine debacle.

I am still going to ask my vet about it, though. And thanks for the
warning about xylitol.

Joyce

*Actually, they can if they're talking about flavorings. A lot of
packaged food will say "spices" without getting specific.
leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 11 Dec 2007 20:22 GMT
> My 19 1/2 year old cat has ginvitis -  I am afraid to have her sedated at
> this age
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks   Rebecca & Katie(my kitty)

I think that you need to weigh up the pros and cons of leaving the
gingivitis. I know if it were one of mine at that age, I would shy
away from a dental if I possibly could. My elderly dog had a dental at
18 because of an abcess and it knocked her badly and exacerbated other
problems with her kidneys. I wouldn't do it again.

We're sending purrs that this is resolved easily and she doesn't need
a dental. :)

Helen M
 
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