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Ginger-lyn - 02 Dec 2007 18:58 GMT I can't possibly hope to catch up with over 2,000 posts, but I'll try:
Mark, I hope you've somehow worked out the problem with your landlord. You should NOT have to lose any of these wonderful cats. It breaks my heart.
{{{{Pam}}}}} I'm so sorry you are going through such a hard time. It isn't fair. I hope things are going better for you now.
Cheryl P., I am so sorry about Mandy. My heart goes out to you, and I wish you gentle healing.
Christine, I'm sorry to hear about Rahab; purrs for all who cared about this little one.
Ted, I'm so glad to hear Fleagor is doing better.
Jo, congrats on the new grandkid!
Julie, is it too late to add me to the card list? Probably. Sigh.
And I'm sorry if I missed anyone, so blanket purrs and congrats where appropriate.
I was all set to post a really nice Thanksgiving post, when all hell broke loose here. In short, DH and I had a blow-up so bad that I don't even want to think about it. I spent the night in a hotel. That *really* helped our financial problems -- lol. I've been pretty down since then.
Then last week, I had a lovely day that went something like this:
Stove is broke (oh, yeah -- we found out about that the day before Thanksgiving, of course. So I had to draft my ex-hubby to run me to Sears and grab the cheapest roaster oven I could find. Again, just what our finances needed. Grrr.). Guy comes to see if stove is fixable, or if we get a new one (the thing's only 3 years old, but the last tenants never cleaned anything, so far as we can tell. I won't go into details about the rats. Ugh.) Guy is barely conversational, except with himself (lol). Guy moves stove out to decide if it's fixable, rat poop is exposed (again, UGH), Katie decides to run in the kitchen, steps in rat poop. Guy leaves, doesn't tell me what is going on. I run Katie up to the tub with the kitten shampoo and wash her feet, much to her wriggly displeasure. Turn off water. TRY to turn off water. Won't turn off. Turn off water to tub instead. Luckily, Bob the Good Fix-It Guy comes to rescue; fixes faucets (washers bad) and promises stove on Monday (unfortunately, this means Kevin The Fix-It Guy From Hell will have to be in here -- grrrr).
In the meanwhile, I've suddenly started having very bad pains in all my joints. I know I have osteoarthritis, but it's never been like this. I have no idea what's going on, other than it's hard to focus, write, or do anything through that much pain. Yeah, I''m still on pain meds, but this stuff is cutting through even the Vicodin. :-( Guess I need to call the dr.
Pinky is still here. No one has claimed him. Sigh. And last night, I ordered food, because we finished off the turkey (the roaster oven did its job) and I just couldn't drag myself around enough to try to make food. And Pinky came *that close* to making it out the door. :-( I screamed (much to the delivery guy's shock, I'm sure), which stopped Pinky long enough for me to sandwich him (bad pun) between my leg and the doorframe, and grab him. Scared Little Mr. I-Fear-Absolutely-NOTHING enough that he hid under the table for awhile. He's fine; I just finally got through to him (at least this once) that the Big Out around here is *dangerous*. He's probably forgotten it by now.
The sinking bed finally got to the point of flat-out (bad pun again) forget it! A huge hole had developed in a seam, in addition to the one Katie put there. DH went out to Aldi's (a discount grocery store here) to get some food, and I, depressed and wondering what I was going to do about somewhere to sleep, said "If they have anything really good we need on sale, go ahead and get it" (they have a little island of household items and such, usually at a very good discounted price). And I added "It's not like they're going to have a bed or anything!" I should know better -- lol! They had air mattresses! The huge, high ones, that look like those bouncy cage things for little kids. Our budget took another $50 hit, but I need something to sleep on! I was to the point of wishing I had gotten some bales of hay they had on sale just before Samhain at Giant Eagle (the non-discount grocery)! It is *so* comfortable. The downside is Pinky is the only cat allowed in here (partly because of lack of front claws, partly because of good behavior, and partly because it is safer to have him in here if fix-it guys are here, or we are likely to have the door open). I miss my kitties curled up with me at night :-( Pinky does a good job of cuddling, though; he'll wrap his entire body around my head, and stick his head right into my face -- lol.
So I've been curled up in my little ball (when Pinky's not curled around my head) again, listening to the frequent rain falling, and wishing life was better. But I'm here.
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Jack Campin - bogus address - 02 Dec 2007 23:27 GMT > I was all set to post a really nice Thanksgiving post, when all hell > broke loose here. Yuck. That all sounds horrendous.
> Pinky came *that close* to making it out the door. :-( I screamed > (much to the delivery guy's shock, I'm sure), which stopped Pinky > long enough for me to sandwich him (bad pun) between my leg and > the doorframe, and grab him. Would it have been a disaster if he'd made it? I missed the background to this.
We try to keep our cats from going out of the front door (the road side) until we're sure they can find their way round the back where the catflap is. Late last night I opened the front door to check the weather; it was horrible, torrents of icy rain. Ollie shot past me like a bullet - I'd never seen him outside the back garden and had visions of him sitting under a bush all night getting soggy and miserable. I tried calling him to no result. About two minutes later he came through the catflap, so at least I know he can do it now.
> The sinking bed finally got to the point of flat-out (bad pun again) > forget it! A huge hole had developed in a seam, in addition to the one > Katie put there. We use a futon. MUCH simpler. (I've tried both water and airbeds and detest them even when they work).
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Ginger-lyn - 03 Dec 2007 20:44 GMT >> I was all set to post a really nice Thanksgiving post, when all hell >> broke loose here. > > Yuck. That all sounds horrendous. Yep. Not fun.
>> Pinky came *that close* to making it out the door. :-( I screamed >> (much to the delivery guy's shock, I'm sure), which stopped Pinky [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Would it have been a disaster if he'd made it? I missed the background > to this. Yep, most likely. Don't want to get into indoor/outdoor debates here, but in our neighborhood, The Out is dangerous. We have heavy, heavy traffic; two bars in our block; and a next-door-neighbor that threatened to kill this cat if he ever saw him again. He's a lost cat, whose humans have still not been found :-( Bolting out the door is probably how he became lost in the first place. He is fearless to the max, and I don't think he has the sense to stay away from trucks, cars, bicycles, wagons, scooters, or Barbie jeeps.
> We try to keep our cats from going out of the front door (the road > side) until we're sure they can find their way round the back where [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > later he came through the catflap, so at least I know he can do it > now. That's good he figured it out. My cousin (she lives in the country) has a catflap in her trailer for her brood.
>> The sinking bed finally got to the point of flat-out (bad pun again) >> forget it! A huge hole had developed in a seam, in addition to the one >> Katie put there. > > We use a futon. MUCH simpler. (I've tried both water and airbeds > and detest them even when they work). Oh, I *loved* my waterbed :-( I loved the gentle heat of it (she said, shivering, with a temperature outside of 29 degrees Fahrenheit and a high wind warning), and the gentle feel of it. Waaaahhhhhh! I want my waterbed back! DH would probably *love* a futon. He's on an ancient mattress/box spring set my first husband and I got oh-so-many-years-ago. The springs tend to pop up and poke you in the back. He's not getting a good night's sleep, either.
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tanadashoes - 03 Dec 2007 00:17 GMT > I was all set to post a really nice Thanksgiving post, when all hell > broke loose here. In short, DH and I had a blow-up so bad that I don't > even want to think about it. I spent the night in a hotel. That > *really* helped our financial problems -- lol. I've been pretty down > since then. <<<<<Ginger-Lyn>>>>
And I thought last year when the heating element in the oven went out the day before Thanksgiving. The turkey was started at about 6 am and finished at midnight. Fortunately a new heating element for the oven cost less than $40. I've lived in places where the cats earned their keep by catching vermin. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. It is not only a health hazard, but incredibly depressing.
I hope that everything sorts itself out for you soon. You have our best wishes and purrs from the owners. We all love you and are here for you.
Pam S.
Ginger-lyn - 03 Dec 2007 20:36 GMT >> I was all set to post a really nice Thanksgiving post, when all hell >> broke loose here. In short, DH and I had a blow-up so bad that I don't [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > keep by catching vermin. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. It is not > only a health hazard, but incredibly depressing. I remember that! I can't even imagine what a frustrating experience that had to be. The Turkey That Took Forever . . . . I've had 4 bad Thanksgivings: this year; the one where I had to work at The St. Pete Times T-giving night, so I grabbed dinner at a restaurant on my way to work; the one where my employer at the time hung up all our paychecks until after noon so we couldn't get money out (remember the days before ATMs?), and all I had in my fridge was a package of hotdogs (they turned out to be bad, too). Luckily, a last minute miracle happened, and I got to go home and have a feast made by my mom, who was a terrible cook on a daily basis, but she knew how to do feasts and treats big-time. And the one where I had just started working at a psychic call line, and they made us come in on Thanksgiving -- and technical issues meant no one called. So we were stuck there until after 8 pm, and I didn't start the turkey until about 9 pm. Ever have T-giving dinner at 2 am? lol!
As far rats, yeah. Ugly, dirty, and depressing. I think they all split before we moved in. Haven't seen one, and hope I don't. We got the new stove today, and cleaned the final part of the yucky stuff out between the guys moving one stove out and one stove in. And, miracle of miracles, Bob brought someone else with him (a nice guy), so no Fix-It-Guy-from-Hell -- yeah!
> I hope that everything sorts itself out for you soon. You have our > best wishes and purrs from the owners. We all love you and are here > for you. > > Pam S. {{{{Pam}}}} Thank you. You make me cry. With everything you have to deal with, you still reach out to others like me, with my petty little miseries. You are an amazing woman, and I am glad you are here.
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Joy - 03 Dec 2007 02:45 GMT >I can't possibly hope to catch up with over 2,000 posts, but I'll try: > [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > > Ginger-lyn (((((((Ginger-lyn))))))))
Purrs for things to start getting better for you.
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Ginger-lyn - 03 Dec 2007 20:28 GMT > (((((((Ginger-lyn)))))))) > > Purrs for things to start getting better for you. > > Joy Thank you, Joy -- I needed that!
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GaDragonfly - 03 Dec 2007 03:00 GMT {{{Ginger-Lynn}}} I'm sorry you're having such a hard time right now. Hopefully it will get better with the New Year. Well, hopefully it will get better before the New Year, but we always have the New Year to look forward to, right?
> Julie, is it too late to add me to the card list? Probably. Sigh. You're on the "Receive Only" list. I can send you the list if you'd like to send some cards, just let me know.
Julie
Ginger-lyn - 03 Dec 2007 20:28 GMT > {{{Ginger-Lynn}}} I'm sorry you're having such a hard time right now. > Hopefully it will get better with the New Year. Well, hopefully it > will get better before the New Year, but we always have the New Year > to look forward to, right? Well, it darn well better be a better New Year -- lol! At least that's what my attitude is starting to be ("Life, you wanna fight? 'Cos I'm gettin' just a bit tired of you takin' everything out on me. I think it's time I just KICK YER you know what!") Okay, so that's not really me, but I can pretend, can't I?
>> Julie, is it too late to add me to the card list? Probably. Sigh. > > You're on the "Receive Only" list. I can send you the list if you'd > like to send some cards, just let me know. That would be great. I would love to be able to send at least some out this year! Guess I better get busy designing! (No, no, it CANNOT be December already!)
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Steve Touchstone - 03 Dec 2007 12:51 GMT >I can't possibly hope to catch up with over 2,000 posts, but I'll try: I know that feeling. On occasion I've just had to mark everything as read and start over <snip> ((((((((Ginger-lyn))))))))))) Glad you have Pinky there purring for you, but we're sending some additional purrs from here in Oklahoma
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Ginger-lyn - 03 Dec 2007 20:26 GMT >> I can't possibly hope to catch up with over 2,000 posts, but I'll try: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Glad you have Pinky there purring for you, but we're sending some > additional purrs from here in Oklahoma Thanks, Steve. Purrs are always welcome and a wonderful comfort. I swear I can hear them coming all the way from OK, too :-)
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jmcquown - 03 Dec 2007 20:29 GMT > So I've been curled up in my little ball (when Pinky's not curled > around my head) again, listening to the frequent rain falling, and > wishing life was better. But I'm here. > > Ginger-lyn I'm so sorry you're dealing with all this. There seems to be a lot of truth to "when it rains, it pours", for a lot of us lately. You've had one heck of a run of bad luck. Purrs for it to all get better.
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Ginger-lyn - 04 Dec 2007 17:59 GMT >> So I've been curled up in my little ball (when Pinky's not curled >> around my head) again, listening to the frequent rain falling, and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jill Thank you, Jill. My early wish for the New Year is that it get better for all of us.
Ginger-lyn hmmmm . . . it's been raining and pouring, both literally and figuratively. Is that why I can't get "It's Raining Men" out of my head? ;-)
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Monique Y. Mudama - 06 Dec 2007 05:35 GMT > So I've been curled up in my little ball (when Pinky's not curled > around my head) again, listening to the frequent rain falling, and > wishing life was better. But I'm here. I'm sorry to read that so much is going wrong -- but isn't it nice that one thing went right =) Being able to get a good night's sleep is *so* important. The mattress may also help relieve your joint pain. And hey -- rain falling -- no wonder your arthritis is acting up =/
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Ginger-lyn - 06 Dec 2007 17:15 GMT >> So I've been curled up in my little ball (when Pinky's not curled >> around my head) again, listening to the frequent rain falling, and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > pain. And hey -- rain falling -- no wonder your arthritis is acting > up =/ Thank you, Monique. Oh, yeah -- it's so nice to be comfortable in one way at least! And yeah, that rain has really been doing a number on the ol' joints. Now it's the cold and snow that's not helping. I'll be looking very forward to spring! lol!
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CatNipped@comcast.net - 06 Dec 2007 18:30 GMT > In the meanwhile, I've suddenly started having very bad pains in all my > joints. I know I have osteoarthritis, but it's never been like this. I > have no idea what's going on, other than it's hard to focus, write, or > do anything through that much pain. Yeah, I''m still on pain meds, but > this stuff is cutting through even the Vicodin. :-( Guess I need to > call the dr. You may have Fibromyalgia - ask your doctor about this (more and more doctors are becoming aware of this painful disorder).
I know how it is to live with constant pain that not even pain pills touch (and I can't even take vicodin, I can only have tramadol which doesn't help at all).
> The sinking bed finally got to the point of flat-out (bad pun again) > forget it! Oh, sorry, I had just asked about your bed in another post before reading this.
>A huge hole had developed in a seam, in addition to the one > Katie put there. DH went out to Aldi's (a discount grocery store here) [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > he'll wrap his entire body around my head, and stick his head right into > my face -- lol. Will they not let you clip their claws? You might even want to clip Pinky's back claws because they can sometimes cause more damage than front claws.
> So I've been curled up in my little ball (when Pinky's not curled around > my head) again, listening to the frequent rain falling, and wishing life > was better. But I'm here. Purrs that your life gets better *FAST*.
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> Ginger-lyn > -- [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/(The Violence Against > Animals in Movies Website) Ginger-lyn - 07 Dec 2007 22:54 GMT >> In the meanwhile, I've suddenly started having very bad pains in all my >> joints. I know I have osteoarthritis, but it's never been like this. I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > You may have Fibromyalgia - ask your doctor about this (more and more > doctors are becoming aware of this painful disorder). I've been thinking that, or that one that makes you tired all the time (is there one that makes you not be able to think -- lol), or some combination.
> I know how it is to live with constant pain that not even pain pills > touch (and I can't even take vicodin, I can only have tramadol which > doesn't help at all). I tried tramadol, and it did absolutely zilch for me.
>> The sinking bed finally got to the point of flat-out (bad pun again) >> forget it! > > Oh, sorry, I had just asked about your bed in another post before > reading this. No problem. I'm lost, too -- lol!
>> A huge hole had developed in a seam, in addition to the one >> Katie put there. DH went out to Aldi's (a discount grocery store here) [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Pinky's back claws because they can sometimes cause more damage than > front claws. Well, that's a good question. Wolfie and Pinky don't have front claws, of course. Of the other eight, Cosmo, Jack and Merlyn won't let me near them. The other five are fine.
I'm a wuss, but I'm afraid to trim back claws. I once did Geesha's (RB), and managed to cut to the quick :-( I felt so badly, I haven't tried to do it to anyone ever since.
>> So I've been curled up in my little ball (when Pinky's not curled around >> my head) again, listening to the frequent rain falling, and wishing life >> was better. But I'm here. > > Purrs that your life gets better *FAST*. Thank you, CatNipped -- ME TOO! WOO-HOO!
> Hugs, > > CatNipped Ginger-lyn just kinda sorta losing it just a wee little bit . . .
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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 08 Dec 2007 00:17 GMT >> You may have Fibromyalgia - ask your doctor about this (more and more >> doctors are becoming aware of this painful disorder).
> I've been thinking that, or that one that makes you tired all the time > (is there one that makes you not be able to think -- lol), or some > combination. You mean Chronic Fatigue? I think that can have cognitive effects, yes.
Also, there's clinical depression. It can be expressed in symptoms that you wouldn't necessarily identify as depression, such as tiredness, loss of sex drive, inability to concentrate. And you don't necessarily have to have "sad" feelings, either. So the usual image we get of a depressed person - weepy, mopey, not wanting to do anything - while those things can certainly be part of it, they don't have to.
Joyce - unfortunately, a bit of an expert on this topic :-/
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Adrian A - 08 Dec 2007 10:09 GMT >>> You may have Fibromyalgia - ask your doctor about this (more and >>> more doctors are becoming aware of this painful disorder). [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Joyce - unfortunately, a bit of an expert on this topic :-/ That's one thing people always seem to get wrong, depression doesn't mean sadness.
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Ginger-lyn - 17 Dec 2007 21:21 GMT > >> You may have Fibromyalgia - ask your doctor about this (more and more > >> doctors are becoming aware of this painful disorder). [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > You mean Chronic Fatigue? I think that can have cognitive effects, > yes. Thank you! That's what I was trying to remember.
> Also, there's clinical depression. It can be expressed in symptoms > that you wouldn't necessarily identify as depression, such as tiredness, > loss of sex drive, inability to concentrate. And you don't necessarily > have to have "sad" feelings, either. So the usual image we get of a > depressed person - weepy, mopey, not wanting to do anything - while > those things can certainly be part of it, they don't have to. I've had clinical depression, too many times. But most of the "experts" of late say any depression I have is situational rather than clinical.
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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 17 Dec 2007 21:46 GMT > I've had clinical depression, too many times. But most of the "experts" > of late say any depression I have is situational rather than clinical. How can any of this be separated? Your mood is a result of things going on in your body, your mind, your life, the phases of the moon, all sorts of things.
Sometimes when a depressed mood comes over me and I can't pinpoint the reason, I go through a litany of possibilities: is it psychological, situational, brain-chemical, hormonal, viral, meteorological, or sleep- related? Or something else? It's hard enough to figure that out for yourself - how could someone else, even an "expert", tell you where it's coming from? What do you think?
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Ginger-lyn - 27 Dec 2007 21:57 GMT > > I've had clinical depression, too many times. But most of the "experts" > > of late say any depression I have is situational rather than clinical. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Joyce That's a good question. Honestly, I am one of "those people" who don't put a lot of stock in chemicals being the reason for everything. I'm a poet; I'm spiritual; I see things through those lenses, not through scientific explanations. And I think this culture is *way* too drugged (and that is not to take away from anyone who has received immense relief from chemicals; if that is what works for you, and helps you, then I am happy. I just think we're too quick to say "You have a problem -- here, have some pills to make it all go away."
I do the same litany thing as you do, and I think it's a good thing to do. Sometimes, it can pinpoint what is going on, even though it is sometimes difficult, and often it is a combination of things.
I don't think much of "experts", either. (Boy, am I being curmudgeonly here! Probably because I just finished reading "The Cat Who Came for Chirstmas ;-) ). However, I *do* think they are probably right in this case. Had I a situation where I was truly loved and happy, had the wherewithal I need to live comfortably, had more and better friends, a safer and nicer environment and all that (which yeah, I know, most of us don't have *all* of that), then I think I would be happy. I do think the situational depression is complicated right now by seasonal depression, but I do much better with that than I used to. Once I realized "Hey, I'm a Pagan. I am in touch with the Earth. The *Earth* is depressed, for heaven's sake; why shouldn't I be?", I quit being so depressed about winter. I just tend to try to make it as easy on myself as possible (buy in bulk, go out as little as possible, plenty of blankets, crank the heat up and worry about the bills later, and make sure I have plenty of warm kitties to cuddle up to :-)), and that really helps.
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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 27 Dec 2007 23:13 GMT > That's a good question. Honestly, I am one of "those people" who don't > put a lot of stock in chemicals being the reason for everything. I'm a > poet; I'm spiritual; I see things through those lenses, not through > scientific explanations. Just to be clear, I do not believe that chemicals are the reason for everything. I know you weren't saying I do, but I just want everyone else to know. In fact, I have a hard time with anyone who thinks that there is one reason - whatever it is - for everything. Our psyches are complex, and are subject to many different influences.
I have a friend who does seem to believe that it's all about brain chemistry. Every time I tell her I'm feeling down, but I'm not sure why, she asks if I might need to have my medication adjusted - even after I've asked her not to say that!
But I also have another friend tends to think that drugs are about "numbing out" and escaping your feelings, rather than really dealing with them. She thinks we should develop our spirituality as the path to healing. And while I have no doubt whatsoever that spirituality is tremendously healing to many people, it's not a panacea either. It doesn't work for everyone. And I don't need to apologize for using medications if they help me.
Then there are psychotherapists who pathologize everything, and think that it's all about what your mother did or didn't do. I have to admit that this belief, limited as it is, is probably closer to my own than any of the others. But I still wouldn't accept it as the only truth. For me, I am positive that chemicals are part of the problem. But old memories and a negative set of beliefs about myself, which I got from a not-very-nurturing childhood, have a huge effect on me, too.
I'm not about blaming my mother. I'm more likely to blame my father, anyway. :) But really, at my age, it's not about blame at all. I might recognize that because my parents did this, or didn't do that, that I developed certain negative thinking or behavior patterns. But I'm the only person who's able to change those things. My parents weren't great parents, but they did love me and they did the best they could, and the truth is, I got more from them than many people get from their parents. I used to think my parents were the worst in the world, but as I got older I realized there was a lot they did right. It's true that I'm still struggling from the effects of abuse, but I sincerely believe at this point that it's up to me - along with whatever help is useful to me, of course - to find my way out of it.
The upshot is, it can be very hard to pinpoint the causes of depression, and therefore, the appropriate way to heal it.
Purrs! (Those are *never* inappropriate. :))
Joyce
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Joy - 27 Dec 2007 23:29 GMT > The upshot is, it can be very hard to pinpoint the causes of depression, > and therefore, the appropriate way to heal it. This goes for just about everything. The biggest lie ever, and one most people buy into about one subject or other, is "One size fits all". People are different. Their lives are different. There are many different causes for problems, and many different solutions. Some work for some people, but not for others.
I'll add my purrs that you find the solution that is right for you.
Joy
> Purrs! (Those are *never* inappropriate. :)) > > Joyce Ginger-lyn - 11 Jan 2008 18:40 GMT > > That's a good question. Honestly, I am one of "those people" who don't > > put a lot of stock in chemicals being the reason for everything. I'm a [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Joyce {{{{Joyce}}}}
I think what you said is probably the most rational, accurate way to look at it. Not much of anything is due to or solved by just one thing; life is too complex for that. And I do believe (and tried to make that plain) that medications, for many, do a world of good. I just wish more people understood that there are often other things, be it a spiritual component, emotional component, life component or whatever, that are just as important, if not more so.
All I wish is healing (in whatever form that takes) for all who need it.
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polonca12000 - 09 Dec 2007 22:30 GMT <snip>
> So I've been curled up in my little ball (when Pinky's not curled around > my head) again, listening to the frequent rain falling, and wishing life > was better. But I'm here. > > Ginger-lyn Lots and lots of purrs and gentle hugs, Polonca and Soncek
Ginger-lyn - 17 Dec 2007 21:21 GMT > <snip> >> So I've been curled up in my little ball (when Pinky's not curled [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Lots and lots of purrs and gentle hugs, > Polonca and Soncek Thank you, Polonca, and Soncek, too :-)
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