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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / December 2007My Apologies to All
I'm sorry I've been bitchy lately. I have no right to take out anything that is going on in my life on you nice people. Specifically, Baha was the recipient of my most recent lashing out and for that I'm sorry. Killfile me if you feel the need. I'll certainly understand. But I'll also try very hard to stop lashing out at you folks instead of at the people who are the *real* source(s) of my frustration. Mea culpa. OB Cats: As soon as I turned off the shower this morning Persia started "talking" to me. Mrow, meow-ma! Meow-ma! I pulled back the curtain and found her meatloafing on the folded towel I had placed on the toilet seat :) I hated to disturb her so it was fortunate I had another towel hanging on the rack until her highness decided to get down. everyone has a bad and the fact that you apologized to her is very adult and shows personal character. Lee > I'm sorry I've been bitchy lately. I have no right to take out anything > that is going on in my life on you nice people. Specifically, Baha was the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I hated to disturb her so it was fortunate I had another towel hanging on > the rack until her highness decided to get down. > I'm sorry I've been bitchy lately. I have no right to take out anything > that is going on in my life on you nice people. Specifically, Baha was [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I hated to disturb her so it was fortunate I had another towel hanging on > the rack until her highness decided to get down. Let Persia give you cuddles! Cats are always right about that sort of thing. ;) > I'm sorry I've been bitchy lately. I have no right to take out anything > that is going on in my life on you nice people. Specifically, Baha was [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I hated to disturb her so it was fortunate I had another towel hanging on > the rack until her highness decided to get down. no problem we all have our bad days. I just had one the other day. Well I won't go into that for I promised to behave and kill filed the problem makers > I'm sorry I've been bitchy lately. I have no right to take out anything > that is going on in my life on you nice people. Specifically, Baha was > the recipient of my most recent lashing out and for that I'm sorry. > Killfile me if you feel the need. I'll certainly understand. But I'll > also try very hard to stop lashing out at you folks instead of at the > people who are the *real* source(s) of my frustration. Mea culpa. Jill, that's very generous of you. I appreciate hearing this from you, even though I wasn't the one you lashed out at. I was quite surprised by that and felt bad for Baha. Glad you didn't really mean it. And feel free to vent about the people who are actually causing you grief! Joyce On Nov 30, 1:10 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > > I'm sorry I've been bitchy lately. I have no right to take out anything > > that is going on in my life on you nice people. Specifically, Baha was [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Joyce I agree with part of your post -- I'm glad Jill posted the apology, glad she felt remorse about it. . Baha is a gentle soul and honestly I don't ever recall her being cross with anyone. I loved her turkey story, and she didn't deserve that. Sherry > I'm sorry I've been bitchy lately. I have no right to take out anything > that is going on in my life on you nice people. Specifically, Baha was [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I hated to disturb her so it was fortunate I had another towel hanging on > the rack until her highness decided to get down. I've been guilty of hitting send when I should have hit delete a few times myself. I'm so glad you have Persia when everyone else lets you down. Jo I will agree with you. i should have opened the cookbook. My I Hate to Cook Book has got the instructions. Oh no. HELL no. My husband was going to have Alton Brown's brine, and he was going to ring his own changes on it: I didn't want the ginger ale in there! And the honey-maple syrup thing would have been better suited to ham if anything. There is only one person i have ever attempted to killfile, and i have noticed his posts with the homophobic, trash-the-liberals talk have mercifully abated if not disappeared entirely. I've no issue with you. I suppose it does look like i ignored everyone in this turkey tragedy, and i apologise to anyone who otherwise may feel slighted. And i have one coming to Louie because I probably look like I'm blaming him though I'm not. You've got a right to pull your hair and say words not suited to a family-friendly site. Believe me, i did. But I also forgive, as I crawl away with my tail between my legs. Crawl to a land full of vegetables where cows and turkeys roam unharmed. It's Ok. We cool? Blessed be, Baha >I'm sorry I've been bitchy lately. I have no right to take out anything >that is going on in my life on you nice people. Specifically, Baha was the >recipient of my most recent lashing out and for that I'm sorry. Killfile me >if you feel the need. I'll certainly understand. >I will agree with you. i should have opened the cookbook. My I Hate to Cook > Book has got the instructions. Oh no. HELL no. My husband was going to [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>me >>if you feel the need. I'll certainly understand. Liz I am glad you got a good memory out of it but please tell your husband Rule one NEVER CHANGE ALTON BROWNS RECIPE HE IS A COOKING GOD ;-) < evil grin > >Liz I am glad you got a good memory out of it but please tell your >husband > Rule one NEVER CHANGE ALTON BROWNS RECIPE HE IS A COOKING GOD ;-) > >< evil grin > I tried. Forgive me o Prophet of Alton I TRIED!!! Alton Brown is a Cooking God and a Sex Object to be adored. I did not want my husband screwing with Alton's recipe. Louie's idea was to tweak it and give it a little "local color" by throwing in regionally produced honey and maple syrup and add locally grown apples and pears; rationalizing, i suppose that he was doing his part to help our sorry economy and spread a little cheer to the area farmers at whose market he purchased this stuff. And i was not too keen on his use of ginger ale, nor was he; but turned out it was because he chose Schweppes instead of Vernors! And he neglected to tell Olive he was brining the bird. When i told her what happened she whacked me with the dishrag. Blessed be, Baha > I will agree with you. i should have opened the cookbook. My I Hate > to Cook Book has got the instructions. Oh no. HELL no. My husband was [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Blessed be, > Baha We're cool. I'm sorry I went off on you. You're a sweet cat lover. I apologize again for going off about it. My Thanksgiving wasn't exactly great, either. The food was good but the company was not heheh. Just don't ask me how to cook Christmas dinner. Deal? I normally make a prime rib roast but if you attempt to put 7-UP in it I'll have to hunt you down LOL Jill >> I'm sorry I've been bitchy lately. I have no right to take out >> anything that is going on in my life on you nice people. >> Specifically, Baha was the recipient of my most recent lashing out >> and for that I'm sorry. Killfile me if you feel the need. I'll >> certainly understand. >We're cool. I'm sorry I went off on you. You're a sweet cat lover. I >apologize again for going off about it. My Thanksgiving wasn't exactly >great, either. The food was good but the company was not heheh. Just don't >ask me how to cook Christmas dinner. Deal? I normally make a prime rib >roast but if you attempt to put 7-UP in it I'll have to hunt you down LOL may i ask what the 7Up thing is about? >> We're cool. I'm sorry I went off on you. You're a sweet cat lover. >> I apologize again for going off about it. My Thanksgiving wasn't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > may i ask what the 7Up thing is about? Ooops, sorry, ginger ale! But please, don't do that ;) We cool? We cool :-) But I'm getting the impression that stuffing a can of beer up a bird's @$$ is not a good idea. >>> We're cool. I'm sorry I went off on you. You're a sweet cat lover. >>> I apologize again for going off about it. My Thanksgiving wasn't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Ooops, sorry, ginger ale! But please, don't do that ;) We cool? > We cool :-) > > But I'm getting the impression that stuffing a can of beer up a bird's @$$ is > not a good idea. They sell holders for the beer cans down here, you know. Actually is considered to be a sort of delicacy. Needless to say, I don't own one of those beer can frames and never will. Not only do none of us like beer, but the idea of shoving it up a perfectly good chicken's nether regions is horrifying to us all here. If offered some, I'll take the smallest piece I can get away with to be polite, but not my thing. However there are a lot of cooks down here who swear by the old beer can up a bird's @$$. There are also a lot who love to deep fry their turkeys in peanut oil. I can use a roaster pan for other purposes, I'm not to sure about the turkey's deep fryer. Pam S. who is so basic and traditional in her cooking it is unnerving. > We cool :-) > > But I'm getting the impression that stuffing a can of beer up a > bird's @$$ is not a good idea. ROTFL I can just imagine *that* going in the oven. :-)  SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > > We cool :-) > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Adrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) > Cats leave pawprints on your hearthttp://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Oh, it's a very trendy thing around here this last summer. You can buy a contraption that holds the bird upright with the can up its butt. They usually cook them outdoors here though, not in the oven. Sherry Thank you Sherry, I was beginning to think it was a nightmare not reality. You usually cook that chicken on an outside grill. Supposed to enhance he flavor "NOT"!! Didn't hurt it but nothing special. Got to keep trying new things though. Sort of like the deep fried turkey, it is good, a lot quicker than the over but nothing I would go out of the way to buy. >> > We cool :-) >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Sherry >>> We cool :-) >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Sherry I was laughing at the thought of an unopened can exploding if inserted in the turkey then cooked. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Watch me mess up this for everyone, I up Pepsi or coke over ham. It helps kill the salt. 7up or any of the white sodas have too much carbonation for cooking for the most part. I cooked a chicken once on a thingie that you were supposed to sit over a can of beer. Well, I only had diet 7-up. Was cooking on a grill outside and it looked like a volcano! >>We're cool. I'm sorry I went off on you. You're a sweet cat lover. I >>apologize again for going off about it. My Thanksgiving wasn't exactly [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > may i ask what the 7Up thing is about? > Watch me mess up this for everyone, I up Pepsi or coke over ham. It > helps kill the salt. LOL Actually, you're supposed to *soak* a salty ham (such as a Smithfield or other cured Virginia ham) before you cook it. That's how you get the salt out. The salt is part of the cure. But sure, I've heard about doing ham in a cola. I'd never consider it, but that's just me. > 7up or any of the white sodas have too much > carbonation > for cooking for the most part. Actually, they are too sweet. Carbonation isn't a factor if you let the soda go flat, but why on earth would anyone want to cook using soda, ginger ale, etc? It's a beverage, not an herb or spice! ;) > I cooked a chicken once on a > thingie that you were supposed to sit over a can of beer. Well, I > only had diet 7-up. Was cooking on a grill outside and it looked like > a volcano! Never heard of such a thing. I've used vertical chicken roasters. Trust me, there was no reason to set it over a can of beer or anything else :) Someone was yanking your chain! They are quite useful if you want to cook a couple of whole chickens on a fairly small grill, by the way. They make smaller ones so you can do Cornish game hens (small chickens, very tasty). Jill "Baha via CatKB.com" <u18616@uwe> wrote in message > news:7c048b0484be5@uwe... >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> Message posted via CatKB.com >> http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/cat-anecdotes/200712/1 the beverage heats, evaporates and steams and infuses flavor, Lee > > Watch me mess up this for everyone, I up Pepsi or coke over ham. It > > helps kill the salt. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > >> Message posted via CatKB.com > >> http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/cat-anecdotes/200712/1 >> Watch me mess up this for everyone, I up Pepsi or coke over ham. It >> helps kill the salt. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > ginger > ale, etc? It's a beverage, not an herb or spice! ;) One could say the same thing about wine and spirits, but lots of people cook with them, and the results are often delicious. Joy >> I cooked a chicken once on a >> thingie that you were supposed to sit over a can of beer. Well, I [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >>> Message posted via CatKB.com >>> http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/cat-anecdotes/200712/1 carbonation I know does not have a flavor but, it can react with other things you use and thus the volcano. I am trying to find the thing for cooking the chicken with the open can of beer inside. Yeah it was a waste of time and money for that matter. I stopped soaking ham because I felt it made them mushy , too much water absorbed. The caramel in the soda along with some other things gives a sort of glaze and that is why I use it. >>> Watch me mess up this for everyone, I up Pepsi or coke over ham. It >>> helps kill the salt. [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >>>> Message posted via CatKB.com >>>> http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/cat-anecdotes/200712/1 > carbonation I know does not have a flavor but, it can react with other > things you use and thus the volcano. I am trying to find the thing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > caramel in the soda along with some other things gives a sort of > glaze and that is why I use it. Ham and glazes... in the case of ham honey works, unless it's a honey-baked ham! Then it's overkill. Ttry brown sugar and pineapple juice. You might even serve a ham studded with pineapple rings. Not my favourite thing but hey, some people like it. And I actually had a broiled chicken breast half served that way to me in a restaurant once. Sorry, it was just too sweet for the bird. "Joy" <toastie@real-me.net> wrote in > message news:13l3f1990cfof0d@corp.supernews.com... >>>> Watch me mess up this for everyone, I up Pepsi or coke over ham. [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >>>>> Message posted via CatKB.com >>>>> http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/cat-anecdotes/200712/1 >> carbonation I know does not have a flavor but, it can react with other >> things you use and thus the volcano. I am trying to find the thing [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > served that way to me in a restaurant once. Sorry, it was just too sweet > for the bird. Charlie swears he doesn't care for "sweet" main course dishes such as glazed ham. But he sure seemed to like the hamburgers stuffed with pineapple rings and served with a sweet brown sugar/mustard/catsup sauce my mother used to cook on the grill. Jo >>> Watch me mess up this for everyone, I up Pepsi or coke over ham. It >>> helps kill the salt. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Joy Totally different thing. You use a wine to deglaze the pan (something cooked on high heat in oil). The alcohol evaporates (yes, some people argue it doesn't). But never use a store bought "cooking wine" since it's the dregs of wine and contains tons of added salt. Trust me, you couldn't drink the stuff. A good wine vinegar is a substitute for deglazing. Not soda. Those who cook with really sweet wine aren't wine drinkers ;) Jill totally disagree, put wine in stocks not just to deglaze and am an avid wine drinker of all types, and have cooked with it all, Lee > >>> Watch me mess up this for everyone, I up Pepsi or coke over ham. It > >>> helps kill the salt. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Jill unless you belong to WW and use it in a cake mix, Lee*evil grin* > Watch me mess up this for everyone, I up Pepsi or coke over ham. It helps > kill the salt. 7up or any of the white sodas have too much carbonation [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Message posted via CatKB.com > > http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/cat-anecdotes/200712/1 > unless you belong to WW and use it in a cake mix, Lee*evil grin* LOL hate to tell you this, but people on WW shouldn't be eating CAKE. >> Watch me mess up this for everyone, I up Pepsi or coke over ham. It >> helps kill the salt. 7up or any of the white sodas have too much [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>> Message posted via CatKB.com >>> http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/cat-anecdotes/200712/1 that is where you are absolutely wrong, the theory of WW is you can eat whatever you want as long as you count it, if you go and look at their site you will see every dish known to mankind, and the whole point is that yes you can have it all... just not all of it, have been doing WW for 268 weeks and have lost lots of weight, from size 26 down to 10/12 eating what I want just not as much as I used to, Lee > > unless you belong to WW and use it in a cake mix, Lee*evil grin* > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >>> Message posted via CatKB.com > >>> http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/cat-anecdotes/200712/1 > Watch me mess up this for everyone, I up Pepsi or coke over ham. > It helps kill the salt. They also contain large amounts of phosphoric acid, which dissolves bone. Cook an animal in enough of it for long enough and you should end up with something like a Gahan Wilson cartoon. I can't help thinking that if we ever all got together for an rpca chicken dinner, it would end up like the dinner-with-the-in-laws scene from "Eraserhead". ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 > We're cool. I'm sorry I went off on you. You're a sweet cat lover. > I apologize again for going off about it. My Thanksgiving wasn't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Jill Nah, prime rib is cooked in Dr. Pepper. ;o) Ducks and runs. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >> We're cool. I'm sorry I went off on you. You're a sweet cat lover. >> I apologize again for going off about it. My Thanksgiving wasn't [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Ducks and runs. And I'll thwack you with a rubber duck if you ever get within reaching distance! LOL I generally do prime rib (aka standing rib roast) for New Year's. Not sure about this year. Might be attending a funeral instead. Time will tell. Jill >>> We're cool. I'm sorry I went off on you. You're a sweet cat lover. >>> I apologize again for going off about it. My Thanksgiving wasn't [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Jill It seems I owe my son-in-law a really good standing rib roast for Christmas. While his Thanksgiving was memorable, he didn't get anything to eat. The hospital cafeteria was closed for the day as were all the eating places in the vicinity. He did find a burger king open. But then again, a standing rib roast is even easier to do than a turkey, once you regain consciousness from paying for it. I just have to fight off Charlie who also watches too much FoodTV and wants to suggest unworkable variations. I have to tell him he can fool around with the side dishes all he wants. Stay away from my rib roast. I'd love to do Yorkshire Pudding with it, but have never managed to get it done before the roast was cold. Ditto popovers. Jo > I'd love to do Yorkshire Pudding with it, but have never managed to get it > done before the roast was cold. Ditto popovers. > > Jo I can probably tell you how to do a Yorkshire Pudding along with your roast. I do it every Sunday. Tweed > I will agree with you. i should have opened the cookbook. My I Hate to Cook > Book has got the instructions. Oh no. HELL no. My husband was going to have [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >>recipient of my most recent lashing out and for that I'm sorry. Killfile me >>if you feel the need. I'll certainly understand. The "turkey tragedy" will probably end up being something your family will laugh about, in years to come. Anyone who cooks has had at least a few failures along the way. I once decided to enter a cake-baking contest, but didn't grease the pan heavily enough. As a result, the cake fell apart when I tried to get it out of the pan. I ended up entering it in the contest anyway, gluing it together with lots of chocolate icing and calling it "Calamity Cake". I ended up winning the prize for ugliest cake, an apron embroidered with the words "I attempted to bake a cake". However, my Calamity Cake ended up being eaten completely by the folks attending the contest (possibly because of all that icing), whereas only half of the first-prize cake was eaten. SignatureJohn F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria Baha! What the heck are you apologizing for, sweetie?!! You didn't pay anybody for a recipe and you sure as heck didn't sign a contract saying you would use any certain recipe! I know you have problems with ADD and depression, and you're probably struggling with the holidays (like me), but that's no reason to apologize to someone who has insulted *you*!!! I sent your turkey story to several of my friends because it made me laugh out loud (and lord knows I need a reason to laugh at this time of year)! I *really* hope you're not too intimidated to continue posting your humorous stories - you're one of the few bright spots here that I look forward to reading (although I know I don't say it often enough). I guess it's good that you didn't make a huge stink out of it, but all I can say is you're a better woman than me because had anyone wrote back to me like that their @$$ would still be flaming! Yeah, I know people have problems, and I know it makes them bitchy at times - but how many times do you have to put up with that before you say enough is enough. I can't condone someone being continuously hurtful and then thinking they can make it all better with an excuse and a throw-away apology. I know exactly how depression makes you feel - guess what, I deal with it daily (and I know several people here who do also). I know how it is to have problems with relatives, I do too. I have a sister-in-law who's dying, a job that sucks, arthritis crippling my hands, neck and shoulders (and have to pound a keyboard with them 9 hours a day). But I don't use that as an excuse to go off on friends because I know *THEY* have just as many problems as I do! </rant> SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > Baha! What the heck are you apologizing for, sweetie?!! You didn't pay > anybody for a recipe and you sure as heck didn't sign a contract saying [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > </rant> Excellent post, CN. All of us should "stop and think" before we post, especially negative messages about other people. MaryL > Excellent post, CN. All of us should "stop and think" before we post, > especially negative messages about other people. > > MaryL Thanks, I hesitated posting it - you could call it me being guilty of what I just ranted about, I guess. But aside from this happening more and more here, I'm dealing with this sort of thing in my real life as well. There's only so many times you can deliberately hurt a person, then make excuses and a lame apology, and expect to be forgiven everything... until the next time. Oh well, such is life - and I'm sorry, but I *HATE* this time of year - more suicides are committed over the Christmas holidays than any other time of year combined! Hugs, CatNipped >Oh well, such is life - and I'm sorry, but I *HATE* this time of year - more >suicides are committed over the Christmas holidays than any other time of >year combined! Oy. I am NOT a fan of the holidays. If I went into all the horrid associations i have with this time of year, I'd eat my allotted bandwidth. Before I discovered this group, my Fritzie went into his "retirement" right around now, 6 December 2003. I lost my regular job, had to start another, got my "monthly friend" (before I took treatment for endometriosis, this was not one of those buddies I wanted to being home to mother, but a few pains for Mutha-in-Law would have been a nice gift, the little...) and took WAY too much Valium. The upshot of this was that i started my seasonal job at Bath & Body Works stoned out of my mind, but also went on a shopping freak that I don't remember. I did not get reprimanded for being chemically happy because bath & Body Works is one of those places where they expect you to skip merrily about as you ask if you want body cream with that huge bottle of spray, and I alone made close to $2000 in sales that night. I do not like to think of that night except to say that I did not let my beloved companion leave this world by himself; and that of all my associations with the season, that this is (in a gruesome sense) the most pleasant. My husband, God bless him, is doing all he can to help me get through everything; and I have a good therapist too. I still don't know where I am religiously except to say that I don't give a damn what the Indian Sikhs say, if i want to pray with my rosary and get solace that way, it's between me and my Maker: "The Boss." And this is why I put out that turkey story. When the embarrassment wears off, i will laugh, as fifteen countries have alredy, and i will have one better association with the season. CN, Thank you for your understanding, and to those who stand with you. Blessed be, Baha Darlin' if folks are laughing with you, they can't laugh at you! >>Oh well, such is life - and I'm sorry, but I *HATE* this time of year - >>more [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > Blessed be, > Baha >>Oh well, such is life - and I'm sorry, but I *HATE* this time of year - >>more [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > Blessed be, > Baha You're quite welcome. It's hard enough dealing with seasonal depression, but to also have a "friend" lambast you out of the blue just because you were trying to be cheerful was way too much icing on that particular cake! {{{{{{{{{{Liz}}}}}}}}}} I hope it helps you to know that you made me laugh with your turkey story at a time of year I don't usually find anything to laugh at! ;> Hugs, CatNipped > > Excellent post, CN. All of us should "stop and think" before we post, > > especially negative messages about other people. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > CatNipped I hate this time of year, too, and I hate that I hate it, because there are so many wonderful things about the holidays that get lost in the shuffle. Lori, here's what I do sometimes to put things into perspective: Find a children's Christmas program to go to, or a holiday student piano recital, or a church cantata. It really lifts me. And I order as many Christmas gifts as I can. Then when I go out, I'm just "window shopping" mostly, and enjoying the decorations, music and stuff. I don't do crowded stores or long lines very well. Sherry >> > Excellent post, CN. All of us should "stop and think" before we post, >> > especially negative messages about other people. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Sherry I don't know if that would do the trick. DH made the mistake of asking me if I was going to put up a tree and decorate this year. I stomped out of the room, dug in my office closet, got out my moth-eaten wreath, stomped to the front door, slammed open the door, through the wreath holder over the top, then slammed the door closed and said, "That's my not to %$#$%$% Christmas this year!" ;> Hugs, CatNipped > I hate this time of year, too, and I hate that I hate it, because > there are so many [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > stuff. I don't > do crowded stores or long lines very well. What I've done over the years - first, I minimized Christmas. I got rid of the idea that I *had* to do this or that. I ignored as much of the hoopla as possible. Some years I didn't decorate. Every year I went to few or none of the innumerable 'must do' get-togethers, often with people I hardly knew - co-workers from distant departments, etc. Fortunately, in my immediate family and among my close friends, no one was (or is) into the big commercialization of present giving - we've always given small token gifts rather than multiple or very expensive gifts. This reduces financial stress, and I also tried to do any buying early, as over-crowded malls are very stressful for me. I know some people find them thrilling and part of the excitement of the season! And then I started adding back in things I wanted to do - religious services (I was also increasingly interested in practising religion over this periods), parties or potlucks I wanted to go to, and concerts. I adore concerts, and there are so many at this time of year! Breaking the childhood conviction that everything has to be absolutely perfect at Christmas - everyone will adore your gifts and give you exactly what you dreamed of, no family or workplace stresses will blow up into outright battles, the perfection of your decorations will be admired by all - helps me a lot. I can forget doing everything perfectly and just enjoy the parts I do like. Cheryl > What I've done over the years - first, I minimized Christmas. I got rid > of the idea that I *had* to do this or that. I ignored as much of the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > always given small token gifts rather than multiple or very expensive > gifts. Me, too. You wouldn't think I would have Christmas stress to begin with, being Jewish, but I come from a family that celebrates Christmas. They don't even pretend it's Chanukah any more. :) However, I've opted out of it pretty much altogether. I don't buy any gifts and I've asked people not to give me any. It's not that I don't like to give people things, I'd just prefer to do it at a different time, for example, on their birthday, or maybe no occasion at all, just because I happened to see something that I know someone would like, and I felt like surprising them. Secondly, I don't visit my family during this time. Most of them now live in Florida, so one visit covers them all. They all get together and do a Christmas get-together, and I'd prefer not to be part of that. I have a lot of painful family history around holidays and gift-giving, which has pretty much ruined it for me. It's a long story, but the gist of it is that I have been heavily criticized and ridiculed about my choice of the gifts I've given at different times, so that I just won't do this with my family anymore. This is OK with me, actually - it was never fun, so I don't miss it. It's a relief. With those stresses off me, I can just enjoy the things I do like about the season: * Lights on people's houses * Parties and get-togethers (most of which I enjoy) * Good food * My women's chorus's annual Solstice concert * General winter pleasures such as cooler temperatures, colorful foliage (such as it is in coastal California), and the constant smell of fireplaces and wood-burning stoves in the air. > And then I started adding back in things I wanted to do - religious > services (I was also increasingly interested in practising religion over > this periods), parties or potlucks I wanted to go to, and concerts. I > adore concerts, and there are so many at this time of year! I can relate to this, even though I'm not Christian, or even particularly religious, period. I'd rather see and hear more religion and less buying at this time of year. > Breaking the childhood conviction that everything has to be absolutely > perfect at Christmas - everyone will adore your gifts and give you > exactly what you dreamed of, no family or workplace stresses will blow > up into outright battles, the perfection of your decorations will be > admired by all - helps me a lot. I can forget doing everything perfectly > and just enjoy the parts I do like. Tell Martha to take a hike! :) Joyce >> What I've done over the years - first, I minimized Christmas. > Me, too. You wouldn't think I would have Christmas stress to > begin with, being Jewish, but I come from a family that celebrates > Christmas. They don't even pretend it's Chanukah any more. :) > However, I've opted out of it pretty much altogether. We're going to Istanbul again for Xmas/New Year, which is nearly a Christmas-free zone. Some shops have a Santa-like figure, but he's "Father New Year"; the Armenians in Kadikoy won't be having their Christmas until after we've gone. Last year's New Year coincided with the Muslim Feast of the Sacrifice, so there was a humungous amount of public partying. This year it doesn't. The most dramatic display will be people lighting sparklers at midnight (which meant I got my trousers perforated with little melt holes last year). Roast chestnuts everywhere but you don't have to put up with Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer while you're eating them. I can recommend the place. And we get to meet all the shop cats round the Tunel, the fishmarket cats, the Sufi cats at the Galata shrine, and maybe the eccentric old guy near there who takes his very old Siamese for walks in the middle of the night holding it under his arm like a bagpipe. ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 > We're going to Istanbul again for Xmas/New Year, which is nearly > a Christmas-free zone. Some shops have a Santa-like figure, but > he's "Father New Year"; the Armenians in Kadikoy won't be having > their Christmas until after we've gone. Are they Orthodox? > Roast chestnuts everywhere but you don't have to put up with > Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer while you're eating them. I can > recommend the place. That does sound wonderful. I'm OK with songs, pictures, even conversations about Jesus (unless someone is trying to convert me), but please, spare me Santa and Rudolph! > And we get to meet all the shop cats round the Tunel, the > fishmarket cats, the Sufi cats at the Galata shrine, and > maybe the eccentric old guy near there who takes his very > old Siamese for walks in the middle of the night holding it > under his arm like a bagpipe. But cats are welcome anywhere, any time! Last night, Roxy made it clear she wanted me to spin her in my office chair - several times, and fast. (She has sharp claws and can hold onto the chair pretty well.) Does this make her a Sufi cat, too? A dervish, anyway. :) Joyce >> We're going to Istanbul again for Xmas/New Year, which is nearly >> a Christmas-free zone. Some shops have a Santa-like figure, but >> he's "Father New Year"; the Armenians in Kadikoy won't be having >> their Christmas until after we've gone. > Are they Orthodox? They pride themselves on being one of the first nations to convert to Christianity (beaten only by the principality of Edessa [modern Urfa] which is supposed to have converted by mail order in Jesus's lifetime), so they predate both the Catholics and the Orthodox. I don't know much about their doctrines but I can say that their churches are the gloomiest places of worship I have ever seen, and with the oldest congregations. ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 > Baha! What the heck are you apologizing for, sweetie?!! You didn't pay > anybody for a recipe and you sure as heck didn't sign a contract saying [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > </rant> Just in case this thread has aged to where you don't still see the beginning, it started with Jill apologizing. Sometimes life really sucks more than other times. Sometimes it affects what we see and how we see it. And sometimes it helps to write it out. Of course those times it is usually better to hit delete than to hit send, but a few of us have made that mistake before. So lets all give out cats some extra hugs and thank Bast we have them. Jo Hey, that is all done so please don't get it fired up again. That turkey story has gone to 15 countries that I know of and Lord knows how many individuals!! We love someone who can share things like that. I know she will keep writing because she is so good at it. >> Baha! What the heck are you apologizing for, sweetie?!! You didn't pay >> anybody for a recipe and you sure as heck didn't sign a contract saying [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Jo You've got me blushing here...! >Hey, that is all done so please don't get it fired up again. That turkey >story has gone to 15 countries that I know of and Lord knows how many >individuals!! We love someone who can share things like that. I know she >will keep writing because she is so good at it. I have a cousin who has about ten different prayer lists that she sends names to. Once in awhile they get a good story and post that. Yours was it for this Thanksgiving time. > You've got me blushing here...! > >>Hey, that is all done so please don't get it fired up again. That turkey >>story has gone to 15 countries that I know of and Lord knows how many >>individuals!! We love someone who can share things like that. I know she >>will keep writing because she is so good at it. don't let the truth embarrass you enjoy it, Lee > You've got me blushing here...! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Message posted via http://www.catkb.com But it's true, Liz, you *are* a very talented writer and your turkey tale had me nearly falling off my computer stool with laughing so hard. It was wonderful. Tweed > You've got me blushing here...! > >>Hey, that is all done so please don't get it fired up again. That turkey >>story has gone to 15 countries that I know of and Lord knows how many >>individuals!! We love someone who can share things like that. I know she >>will keep writing because she is so good at it. ...I know exactly how > depression makes you feel - guess what, I deal with it daily (and I know > several people here who do also). I know how it is to have problems with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > CatNipped Your new job isn't working out? I'm sorry to see that. I thought you had finally had a break. You might try tumeric (curcumin) supplements to help your joints. Annie > ...I know exactly how >> depression makes you feel - guess what, I deal with it daily (and I know [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Annie It's just that it pays 1/2 what I was making 3 years ago with about 10 times the work. My pinky finger on my left had is so swollen that it looks like a hammer stuck handle-on to my hand. I literally type (banging that finger on the keyboard) the entire time I'm sitting at my desk - usually 9 hours. The doctor looked at it and said, yep it's arthritis, you should think about retiring - yeah? On what??! We've spent our entire life's savings on a series of disasters, one after another, over the past 4 years. Sorry, this really isn't my favorite time of year, can you tell? ;> Hugs, CatNipped > It's just that it pays 1/2 what I was making 3 years ago with about 10 times > the work. My pinky finger on my left had is so swollen that it looks like a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > CatNipped Lots and lots of hugs and purrs, Polonca and Soncek > Baha! What the heck are you apologizing for, sweetie?!! You didn't pay > anybody for a recipe and you sure as heck didn't sign a contract saying you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > your turkey story to several of my friends because it made me laugh out loud > (and lord knows I need a reason to laugh at this time of year)! I agree 100%. Besides, there's nothing dumber to argue about than how someone *else* cooks!! It's like telling someone how to dress. People have different tastes according to how and where they were raised, and simply what they like. Baha has many talents in *other* places besides the kitchen! Sherry > I *really* hope you're not too intimidated to continue posting your humorous > stories - you're one of the few bright spots here that I look forward to [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/
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