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2 Hurt Rescuing Cat
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Jeanne Hedge - 16 Nov 2004 19:01 GMT from the Chicago Tribune (the "Gold Coast" mentioned is an area of downtown Chicago). Purrs for these people!
2 hurt rescuing cat from high-rise fire
Tribune staff reports
November 16, 2004, 12:48 PM CST
Two people sustained minor injury from smoke inhalation this morning when they returned to their burning Gold Coast condominium building to rescue a cat, authorities said.
The fire broke out shortly before 6 a.m. in the kitchen of a two-bedroom unit on the fourth floor of the Newberry Plaza high-rise,1030 N. State St. It was struck a half-hour later. Damage was contained to the unit, officials said.
Firefighters told some residents of the fourth floor to leave the building but later found two people who apparently had returned to their unit, said Chicago Fire Department spokesman Dennis Gault. They were helped outside and then taken to Northwestern Memorial Hospital.
As for the feline, Gault added, "I would imagine the cat is all right, but they were all lucky."
"We constantly preach that once you get out of the building, stay out," Gault said. "People have a tendency to feel animals are part of their family, but they are risking their own lives" trying to rescue them, he added.
Fire investigators were seeking the fire's cause.
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Victor Martinez - 16 Nov 2004 21:07 GMT > out," Gault said. "People have a tendency to feel animals are part of > their family, but they are risking their own lives" trying to rescue > them, he added. Because they *are* part of my family. I will most definitely risk my life to save my babies.
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D. R. Crawford - 16 Nov 2004 21:46 GMT > > out," Gault said. "People have a tendency to feel animals are part of > > their family, but they are risking their own lives" trying to rescue > > them, he added. > > Because they *are* part of my family. I will most definitely risk my > life to save my babies. Damn right. I would too, in a heartbeat.
Yoj - 16 Nov 2004 22:46 GMT > > out," Gault said. "People have a tendency to feel animals are part of > > their family, but they are risking their own lives" trying to rescue [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Victor Martinez That's the way I, and probably almost everybody here, feel.
Joy
Marina - 17 Nov 2004 04:21 GMT >> out," Gault said. "People have a tendency to feel animals are part of >> their family, but they are risking their own lives" trying to rescue >> them, he added. > > Because they *are* part of my family. I will most definitely risk my > life to save my babies. Exactly.
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Adrian - 18 Nov 2004 11:07 GMT >> out," Gault said. "People have a tendency to feel animals are part of >> their family, but they are risking their own lives" trying to rescue >> them, he added. > > Because they *are* part of my family. I will most definitely risk my > life to save my babies. As would most of us.
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CatNipped - 16 Nov 2004 22:09 GMT > from the Chicago Tribune (the "Gold Coast" mentioned is an area of > downtown Chicago). Purrs for these people!
> "We constantly preach that once you get out of the building, stay > out," Gault said. "People have a tendency to feel animals are part of > their family, but they are risking their own lives" trying to rescue > them, he added. > > Fire investigators were seeking the fire's cause. What do they mean "feel animals are part of their family"! They *ARE* part of the family, they're my widdle babies - I *could* not leave them alone in the building to burn and I *would* risk my life trying to rescue them.
Hugs,
CatNipped
> Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha > > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com Bridget - 16 Nov 2004 22:32 GMT One of the longest days of my life was the day of the gas explosions across the street from me. I KNEW there was a gas leak but needed to go get groceries (it wasn't the first gas leak from this project they were doing so I didn't think too much about it). I got in my friends car, we pulled out of the parking lot, the first building across the street exploded and within 10 seconds there were 25 emergency personel to evacuate 30 apartments knocking on doors and getting the manager to open the doors of people who didn't answer to make sure everyone got out. I saw that absolute swarm of people and knew my babies were in there and there was no way for me to get to them because they were getting people out, not letting them in - and I knew it.
I didn't go get groceries (where would I have put them?). My friend went with me to my therapists office where we waited the hour for my appointment together and I watched the smoke since her office is only a few blocks away. I was nuts. If I had my cats, I would have been okay, but I couldn't tell what was happening and I just knew they were not with me and it was unsafe THERE. From my therapists, I called a friend and we sat in her living room with the television on while we got conflicting reviews about what was happening and exactly where it was happening. I was insane. And when they let us come back to our apartments that evening, I was so glad to see them and so glad they hadn't suffered from smoke inhalation - my apartment air was quite clean, and so relieved I didn't have to take them to emergency care. I truly never want another day like that for the rest of my life.
If I had thought for one second that I could have gotten past emergency personel to get back to my apartment, I would have done it, but there was just no way. There were too many of them. So I can understand how someone would sneak back in to rescue their animals. Having been there and wanted to do that.
Bridget
>>from the Chicago Tribune (the "Gold Coast" mentioned is an area of >>downtown Chicago). Purrs for these people! [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>============ >>http://www.jhedge.com Yoj - 16 Nov 2004 22:48 GMT What a terrible day that was for you! I'm so glad it turned out all right.
Joy
> One of the longest days of my life was the day of the gas explosions > across the street from me. I KNEW there was a gas leak but needed to go [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > >>============ > >>http://www.jhedge.com Marina - 17 Nov 2004 04:19 GMT > One of the longest days of my life was the day of the gas explosions > across the street from me. I remember that day, Bridget. So glad everything turned out alright, but afraid you will never forget the feeling. Hugs and purrs.
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Adrian - 18 Nov 2004 11:14 GMT > One of the longest days of my life was the day of the gas explosions > across the street from me. I KNEW there was a gas leak but needed to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > because they were getting people out, not letting them in - and I > knew it. <snip>
I remember your original post when that happend, you must have aged 10 years that day. I was so glad all turned out OK.
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Melissa Houle - 17 Nov 2004 06:36 GMT > > from the Chicago Tribune (the "Gold Coast" mentioned is an area of > > downtown Chicago). Purrs for these people! [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > ============ > > http://www.jhedge.com Me neither! Abandon Pan, Francesca and Nina to their fates in a FIRE??? NEVER!
Melissa
Yoj - 16 Nov 2004 22:46 GMT Cheers and purrs for those heroes!
-- Joy
Things turn out best for the people who make the best out of the way things turn out. -- John Wooden
> from the Chicago Tribune (the "Gold Coast" mentioned is an area of > downtown Chicago). Purrs for these people! [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com O J - 17 Nov 2004 01:28 GMT >2 hurt rescuing cat from high-rise fire > >Two people sustained minor injury from smoke inhalation this morning >when they returned to their burning Gold Coast condominium building to >rescue a cat, authorities said. Safety experts, who are naturally concerned with human safety more than that of pets, recommend exiting the home first. Then, if there are concerns about the safety of pets, either leave the door open or throw something in through a window to provide your pet an escape route. In this case, that advice would have been useless, of course, as the people lived on the fourth floor.
Regards and Purrs, O J
Enfilade - 17 Nov 2004 18:41 GMT We had a fire in our old apartment building and we grabbed Nox (this was when she was our only cat) and ran out. They contained the fire but they weren't letting people back in the building. It was a bitterly cold February night and it took them hours to get the fire out. Nox began to shiver. So we went to tim horton's for coffees--including Nox. Despite the "no pets allowed" sign.
Well, the staff there heard her crying in her box, though we'd tried to hide the box with our coats. When they heard what had happened they were more than happy to let Nocturne stay inside with us to keep warm until we were allowed back in our apartment.
--Fil
Adrian - 18 Nov 2004 11:16 GMT > We had a fire in our old apartment building and we grabbed Nox (this > was when she was our only cat) and ran out. They contained the fire [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > --Fil There are some good people in the world. :-)
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O J - 17 Nov 2004 21:34 GMT >>2 hurt rescuing cat from high-rise fire >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >route. In this case, that advice would have been useless, of course, >as the people lived on the fourth floor. Perhaps I should amplify my remarks. I didn't mean to imply that one should abandon one's pet, just that if Mittens or Rover is hiding under the bed and won't be coaxed out, get out yourself and then see the advice as above.
Regards and Purrs that none of us ever has to make that choice, O J
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 18 Nov 2004 15:08 GMT >"We constantly preach that once you get out of the building, stay >out," Gault said. "People have a tendency to feel animals are part of >their family, but they are risking their own lives" trying to rescue >them, he added. That's because they are part of the family, as I think just about everyone on this newsgroup understands. Gault reminds me of a certain vet that tried to "treat" Francis ...
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John F. Eldredge - 22 Nov 2004 05:25 GMT >>"We constantly preach that once you get out of the building, stay >>out," Gault said. "People have a tendency to feel animals are part [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >everyone on this newsgroup understands. Gault reminds me of a >certain vet that tried to "treat" Francis ... I regretted having to leave Annabel Lee behind in my house fire in February 2003, when she ran and hid when I tried to get her out of the house, but the smoke level was already high enough that I felt that I would probably have been trapped inside, and died, had I stayed inside to look for her. The burning room flashed over, resulting in a much higher smoke concentration, shortly after I got out of the house, several minutes before the fire department arrived. While I love my pets, I won't take as much risk to my own life in order to save them as I would do to rescue a human.
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Karen Chuplis - 22 Nov 2004 05:30 GMT > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > While I love my pets, I won't take as much risk to my own life in > order to save them as I would do to rescue a human. I just pray no one ever has to face this again. I know it was horrible for you. We never know how something as unpredictable as a fire will play out.
Sherry - 22 Nov 2004 06:01 GMT >I just pray no one ever has to face this again. I know it was horrible for >you. We never know how something as unpredictable as a fire will play out. Two nights ago we had a house fire in town. The family did not have an exit plan, and there was much confusion as to where their baby was. The mother had given it to the neighbor who had taken it into her house. The father thought the baby was still inside; he ran back in and died in the fire. The couple had two more very small children and overnight guests who survived. So please, you all, for the sake of yourself and your cats, make sure your smoke alarms work so that you have a few extra minutes and a plan. Sherry
Howard Berkowitz - 22 Nov 2004 14:55 GMT > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > While I love my pets, I won't take as much risk to my own life in > order to save them as I would do to rescue a human. You made the best call you could under the circumstances. Perhaps there is another way to look at it.
It's not always a question of pets versus humans. There comes a time when professional firefighters will, painfully and regretfully, pull out of a burning structure where they KNOW there are living human victims. Their training and experience may tell them that the approach they are using is in imminent danger of structural collapse, flashover, or other catastrophic event.
Sometimes, when they withdraw, they do so in the hope of finding another way to approach the trapped victims. That isn't always possible -- and the worst tends to be when they can't get to trapped members of their own unit.
Not having any humans living with me, I suspect I'd go fairly far to try to save the cats -- but even then, I'd try to do it as professionally as possible. I have quite a few extinguishers around the house, but I don't regard the larger ones [1] so much for putting out fires as much as for beating down an exit path. While a garden hose won't throw that much water, if I could possibly bring one in for protection, I'd do so.
[1] The ones within easy reach of the workbench or stove are for minor fires. Much of the time, a minor range fire can be controlled simply by covering a pan.
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