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The peircing in my ear was still giving me grief. Joel dragged me off to his
tattoo shop as they also do peircings to get some advice. First of all, I
got my ear pierced in a 'difficult' place (there are many 'standard'
non-lobe peircing places on the ear. Mine isn't one of the standard places.
Closest it is is to a 'forward pinna' peircing, but it isn't). And instead
of being pierced properly, they used the sort of gun used for piercing
lobes, which is *not* what you are supposed to use for anything else except
for lobes. Third, the pierced me with soemthing realtively blunt (the stud
itself) causing large amounts of trauma to the cartiledge. Fourth, because
of the limitations of the lobe piercing gun, the percing was actually
misaligned and so its at a silly angle (whilst the front of the stud looks
right, the back sits almost above the ear, rather than directly at the back
of the stud). Fourth (and probably the worst) they had used a standard stud
with a ginormous butterfly clip at the back which is good for lobe piercing
but not much else. The butterfly clip meant it was a great place for
bacteria to breed, but the main problem was that it was large and stuck up
above the ear so I kept knocking it and it pressed into my head when I tried
to sleep - one is not supposed to knock or otherwise move piercings when
they are healing, especially cartiledge piercings (fleshy piercings are much
easier, apprantly).
The girl with the multiple piercings at Joel's tattoo place was very nice
and sympathetic, said it was an unfortuantely common mistake and really
wished that the "earlobe gun" folk got trained in piercings so that they
knew that anything other than lobes wouldn't work and would turn those who
requested any other place than lobes away to a *proffessional* and
*qualified* peircer. She said that when most folks get their first non-lob
ear piercing, it goes bad for all the above reasons and they just give up.
Asking what I could do to try and save the day, she recommended a labret.
Not having any clue about 'body jewellry' she showed me - a labret is
usually worn in the lips, either in the position in the middle under the
bottom lip or inthe 'monroe' position to the left (or right) of the top lip
in the place where Marilyn Monroe had her mole. Since no-one would want a
great fat butterfly clip in their mouths, the back of a labret is just a
flat disk and is designed to be snug against the flesh to avoid knocking the
teeth or gums.
So in the last week I have learnt more about piercing and body jewellry than
I ever intended to know, and have surfed many an on-line shop looking for a
cat-related labret (and looking at alot of body jewellry and thinking
'ouch'!). There are lots labrets out there, but not many in something cat
related, and only very few in a very small gauge (gauge is the thickness of
the post. Piercing studs are 16 guage, but most normal lobe earrings are 18
or even 20 gauge. Most labrets were in 14 gauge or even thicker - why I
don't know)
I found one that had a cats eye as the jewel and had the right gauge, but
they wouldn't ship to Australia (I really don't understand that, if I'm
willing to pay the extra postage, what difference does it make whether they
send it to some where int he USA or somewhere overseas, its still an
enevelope and a trip to the post office?). With alot more searching and
e-bay browsing, I found one similar to the original that would ship to
Australia - a gold plated 8mm long stud in 16 gauge (the thinnest they had)
with a small peridot as the jewel. It cost me all of $2 to 'buy right now'
and another $8.50 to send via registered post, but it eventually got here.
I got out the disinfectant and doused the new labret, my fingers, and the
old stud. Then I tried to remove the butterfly clip fromthe back of my ear.
It didn't want to move. I pulled, tugged, prised and otherwise wrestled with
it, all the whilst trying not to cry from he pain. It did eventually come
loose with a large 'pop' but I had really traumatised my ear by that time
and it was red, swollen and bleeding.
What I hadn't realised about labrets is that that they are 'backwards'
compared to standard ear-lobe studs. Ear lobe studs have the jewel on the
post, and the back is seperate, sorta like @-- B whereas labrets are the
opposite - the back and hte post are together and the jewel is seperate like
@ --|. Which meant i had to put in the post from the *back* of my ear.
If you've read this far, you'll know that the piercing was misaligned,
meaning that the hole at the back of my ear is not where you'd think it
should be, when looking at the hole in the front of my ear. I couldn't see
the hole at the back fo myear by looking inth mirror, and the more I poked,
the worse my ear was starting to look.
Eventually i just had to face the fact that unless I wanted to put the
original butterfly clipped stud back in and continue to endure the
difficulties with it, I wasn't going to be wearing an appropriate body
jewellry piece in that part of my ear any time soon.
Since Shmogg's ashes are back with me, it felt less important to have a
peircing to remind me of him. I made the decision to let the original hole
heal up, and if I still feel the need to have a memorial earring for Shmogg
once its better, I'll go and get it done by someone who knows wha thtey are
doing and can fit the appropriate peace of body jewelly there and then.
Whilst still tender, there is nothing in there now to get caught, press or
twist if I sleep on my left side at night and make me bite my lip lest I cry
out and wake Joel or Cary up. Last night was the best night's sleep I've had
since Shmogg died.
I probaly won't get it re-done, so thus ends my journey into the world of
body peircing. My street cred goes down and I lose my 'cool' status at work,
but the better sleep will make up for it. At my age, i have no business
being 'cool' anyway :-)
Yowie

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Stormmee - 27 Nov 2007 22:33 GMT
you have all the business in the world being cool and you can also use the
mess with your ear to educate the younger ones to go to the right person, as
long as you are gonna do something about a decision once your ear heals your
SC will be fine, Lee
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> If you're paddling upstream in a canoe and a wheel falls off, how many
> pancakes can you fit in a doghouse? None, icecream doesn't have bones.
Granby - 27 Nov 2007 22:49 GMT
Hey Yowie, cool is good, I try in my own way. Like Lee said teach the
younger ones to go to the right places. I printed that out for my two
younger ones. There is never such a thing as too much information.
> you have all the business in the world being cool and you can also use the
> mess with your ear to educate the younger ones to go to the right person,
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>> If you're paddling upstream in a canoe and a wheel falls off, how many
>> pancakes can you fit in a doghouse? None, icecream doesn't have bones.
Enfilade - 27 Nov 2007 23:20 GMT
> >> the post. Piercing studs are 16 guage, but most normal lobe earrings are
> > 18
> >> or even 20 gauge. Most labrets were in 14 gauge or even thicker - why I
> >> don't know)
Jewelry that is too thin is more easily rejected, and if it snags on
anything, can act like a cutter (think about a cheese cutter--wire
slicing cheese) and cause damage around the piercing area or tear
right out.
Of course jewelry that is exceptionally large can be too heavy for the
new piercing, which is why most people with extremely large piercings
start small and stretch larger.
I have my helix (upper ear) on the left side pierced twice at 16
gauge, which is the thinnest my piercer would go. A regular earring
wire is maybe 18 or 20 gauge. A piercing stud with a butterfly clip
is about 16 g. Most piercers prefer to use 14 g for a beginning
piercing.
I also have a ring in the middle of my nose (septum), and it is
pierced at 14g. (What you don't know about your online friends
because you can't see them in person... :)
Yowie, I love piercings, if you want one, don't be afraid to re do
it. Your experience with a professional piercer will be much
better.
I'm going to suggest a site that lets you search for the reputations
of piercing shops in your area. However, everyone clicking this link
be advised that there are pictures of piercings EVERYWHERE and I do
mean EVERYWHERE. You will not suddenly see porn, but if you choose to
click on "genital piercing" don't be surprised by what you see. That
being said: www.bmezine.com
Good luck Yowie!
--Fil
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 27 Nov 2007 23:43 GMT
> The peircing in my ear was still giving me grief. Joel dragged me off to his
> tattoo shop as they also do peircings to get some advice. First of all, I
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> for lobes. Third, the pierced me with soemthing realtively blunt (the stud
> itself) causing large amounts of trauma to the cartiledge... [snip]
Oh, wow - so *that's* what happened to my 3rd ear piercing about 25 years
ago! I also had one done on the mid-ear, on cartilege, and it never healed.
After several weeks, it was still bleeding, so I gave up, took out the
stud and let it close up. I also went to a non-pro, probably someone in a
jewelry shop in a mall.
> What I hadn't realised about labrets is that that they are 'backwards'
> compared to standard ear-lobe studs. Ear lobe studs have the jewel on the
> post, and the back is seperate, sorta like @-- B whereas labrets are the
> opposite - the back and hte post are together and the jewel is seperate
> If you've read this far, you'll know that the piercing was misaligned,
> meaning that the hole at the back of my ear is not where you'd think it
> should be, when looking at the hole in the front of my ear. I couldn't see
> the hole at the back fo myear by looking inth mirror, and the more I poked,
> the worse my ear was starting to look.
Couldn't Joel have helped here? I'm sure he would have been able to see
from the back of your ear better than you could have.
> Whilst still tender, there is nothing in there now to get caught, press or
> twist if I sleep on my left side at night and make me bite my lip lest I cry
> out and wake Joel or Cary up. Last night was the best night's sleep I've had
> since Shmogg died.
> I probaly won't get it re-done, so thus ends my journey into the world of
> body peircing. My street cred goes down and I lose my 'cool' status at work,
> but the better sleep will make up for it. At my age, i have no business
> being 'cool' anyway :-)
LOL, yes, there comes a point in a person's life where coolness is simply
no longer attainable (assuming it ever was). This can be very liberating,
as it's no longer something to agonize over - you can just let go of it.
Break out the muu-muu and tennis shoes! :) (Just kidding about the muu-muu,
but I swear by my comfy shoes.)
Glad you found out what went wrong. And as you have probably figured out
by now, you don't really need a reminder of Shmogg!
Joyce
jofirey - 28 Nov 2007 00:37 GMT
> > I probaly won't get it re-done, so thus ends my journey into the world
> > of
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> muu-muu,
> but I swear by my comfy shoes.)
If I remember that far back, to be cool, something has to be easy and
effortless. Or at least seem that way.
So the main thing is to do what works for you, and look the world straight
in the eye without apology.
Jo
Granby - 28 Nov 2007 01:06 GMT
What is considered cool has changed places over the years. I had my tennies
on the other day and both my granddaughters has lace up thick heeled shoes
on, like old ladies used to wear. Next to the turkey story, that was my
second laugh of the holiday season.
>> > I probaly won't get it re-done, so thus ends my journey into the world
>> > of
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>
> Jo
jofirey - 28 Nov 2007 05:00 GMT
> What is considered cool has changed places over the years. I had my
> tennies on the other day and both my granddaughters has lace up thick
> heeled shoes on, like old ladies used to wear. Next to the turkey story,
> that was my second laugh of the holiday season.
I've managed to get an entire generation worth of amusement out of the
clothes the kids wear, particularly the boys over the last fifteen years or
so,
Just cannot take anyone seriously that can't keep their pants up.
Older grandson has outgrown it and youngest doesn't seem so inclined.
Eighteen year old seems to still be trying to prove a point. I try not to
laugh to his face.
Jo
Marina - 29 Nov 2007 03:56 GMT
> I've managed to get an entire generation worth of amusement out of the
> clothes the kids wear, particularly the boys over the last fifteen years or
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> Eighteen year old seems to still be trying to prove a point. I try not to
> laugh to his face.
And that has been going on for ages! Isn't it about time they thought up
something new already? One day, I saw a young man with, not just the
loose trousers hanging down, but a *second* trouser seat sown below the
first one, so that it looked like they were actually hanging down to his
knees. <shakes head and feels old>

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Granby - 29 Nov 2007 06:00 GMT
Don't feel old, that IS disgusting. We have a lot of truckers and they
usually wear jeans of varying degrees of tightness. After a certain size,
unless you let the size grow with the surrounding territory, the
descriptions I get when they lean down to retrieve their purchase from the
machine, make it ok that God decided some of us shouldn't see some things!
>> I've managed to get an entire generation worth of amusement out of the
>> clothes the kids wear, particularly the boys over the last fifteen years
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> one, so that it looked like they were actually hanging down to his knees.
> <shakes head and feels old>
Stormmee - 28 Nov 2007 04:06 GMT
not worrying about coolness is in my book the very coolest, Lee
> > The peircing in my ear was still giving me grief. Joel dragged me off to his
> > tattoo shop as they also do peircings to get some advice. First of all, I
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>
> Joyce
Christine Burel - 28 Nov 2007 01:15 GMT
It's what in your heart that counts - your memories of Schmogg will always
be there. Purrs that your poor ear will heal soon.
hugs,
Christine
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> The peircing in my ear was still giving me grief. >
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> Yowie
Adrian A - 28 Nov 2007 11:12 GMT
> <long>
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> I probaly won't get it re-done, so thus ends my journey into the
> world of body peircing. My street cred goes down and I lose my 'cool'
> status at work, but the better sleep will make up for it. At my age,
> i have no business being 'cool' anyway :-)
>
> Yowie
You'll always be cool to the members of this group and Schmog will never be
forgotten.

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Charleen Welton - 28 Nov 2007 14:26 GMT
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> You'll always be cool to the members of this group and Schmog will never
> be forgotten.
What Adrian said so wonderfully.
Charleen
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St. Cloud, FL USA
Kreisleriana - 28 Nov 2007 13:43 GMT
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> work, but the better sleep will make up for it. At my age, i have no
> business being 'cool' anyway :-)
We allow ourselves to care too much whether we're being judged, by people
who are too young, Yowie. What's cool about that? The essence of "cool" is
*truly* not giving a s***. My 69-year-old mother walking down the avenue
in her sweat pants is the coolest person on earth. ;)
Stormmee - 28 Nov 2007 13:43 GMT
exactly, Lee
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> *truly* not giving a s***. My 69-year-old mother walking down the avenue
> in her sweat pants is the coolest person on earth. ;)
Christine K. - 28 Nov 2007 16:33 GMT
Yowie kirjoitti:
> <long>
<snippa-di-doo-daa>
> I probaly won't get it re-done, so thus ends my journey into the world of
> body peircing. My street cred goes down and I lose my 'cool' status at work,
> but the better sleep will make up for it. At my age, i have no business
> being 'cool' anyway :-)
>
> Yowie
Should you still decide to get a cat-themed labret for your ear, a quick
search found at least a couple places with 12 and 14 gauge cat's eye
labrets that ship around the world:
http://piercingmarket.com/product_labret-with-cat-eye-ball-12-ga-p35778.html
http://piercingmart.com/products/labret-with-cat-eye-ball-12-ga-p35778.html
And there are labrets on eBay too with actual cat motifs, for example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lip-Chin-Ring-Labret-Internally-Threaded-Cat-H002_W0QQitemZ3
00176984235QQihZ020QQcategoryZ98536QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
or http://tinyurl.com/2u9s3t
and
http://cgi.ebay.com/CAT-LABRET_W0QQitemZ130091460686QQihZ003QQcategoryZ98536QQrd
Z1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
or http://tinyurl.com/34aew6
It's never too late to be cool... :)

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polonca12000 - 02 Dec 2007 22:40 GMT
> <long>
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> they are healing, especially cartiledge piercings (fleshy piercings are much
> easier, apprantly).
<snip>
> Whilst still tender, there is nothing in there now to get caught, press or
> twist if I sleep on my left side at night and make me bite my lip lest I cry
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>
> Yowie
Lots and lots of healing purrs and very gentle hugs for you, Vicky, we
are thinking of you,
Polonca and Soncek
Monique Y. Mudama - 06 Dec 2007 05:05 GMT
<snip>
> Eventually i just had to face the fact that unless I wanted to put
> the original butterfly clipped stud back in and continue to endure
> the difficulties with it, I wasn't going to be wearing an
> appropriate body jewellry piece in that part of my ear any time
> soon.
<snip>
Boy do I feel your pain.
When I was somewhere around fourth grade I got my first piercings.
The one on my left lobe was too low. At one point I was twirling the
earring in my ear and it just ... ripped through. Lots of blood, very
scary for my dad, fortunately not painful as I recall. I got that
repierced and eventually got piercings above the first, "standard"
location.
Long story short, I haven't worn earrings in years, but all four
piercing holes occasionally flare up, getting scaly or filling with
pus. It sucks.

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