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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / November 2007Litter Deodorizer Advice Please...
Have never tried any and would welcome your thoughts/advice. Since the litterbox is in my bedroom, can use all the help I can get. I use Tidy Cat clumping litter which works well for us, sift it every day, but still have a faint but noticeable "aroma" in the bedroom sometimes. Naturally, I expect odor after immediate use of the litter box but sometimes find a lingering scent even after sifting. Instructions say to sprinkle on the bottom of the box before adding litter and a bit more on top. What about it getting on their paws and then licking same? I did a Google on litter deodorizer and found both powder and spray - did not come across any adverse comments but I still worry. Would never do anything which might harm my loveable but despotic furry masters. Lorna & the Chesniks (Chessie & Nikki) I use arm and hammer baking soda in the bottom of the tray and I have the febreeze scent dispersers set for every 20 minutes > Have never tried any and would welcome your thoughts/advice. Since the > litterbox is in my bedroom, can use all the help I can get. I use Tidy [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > anything which might harm my loveable but despotic furry masters. > Lorna & the Chesniks (Chessie & Nikki) use the tidy cat multiple cat non scented to start, and put baking soda in to start, Lee, who uses as much natural as possible > Have never tried any and would welcome your thoughts/advice. Since the > litterbox is in my bedroom, can use all the help I can get. I use Tidy Cat [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > anything which might harm my loveable but despotic furry masters. > Lorna & the Chesniks (Chessie & Nikki) <snip> > I did a Google on litter deodorizer and found both powder and spray - did > not come across any adverse comments but I still worry. Would never do > anything which might harm my loveable but despotic furry masters. > Lorna & the Chesniks (Chessie & Nikki) I do not normally endorse products, but I have been very happy with a product called Nok-out (http://www.nokout.com/). I got the deodorizer/disinfectant in a spray bottle. It completely took out the odor that a plastic covered litter box had absorbed (after two spray treatments with Nok-out). I now use it on the parts of the litterboxes that my "stand up to pee" boy hits, and I also spritz it on the litter after I scoop it (just enough to get the enzymes on the litter, not so much that it clumps it). So far so good with it. Besides changing the litter I had been using (which contributed to the odor), I think the Nok-out has been part of the reason I no longer smell the litterbox when I walk by. I also have one in my bedroom. The only time I smell it now is when one of the boys has laid a smelly one in the box. NOTHING can handle that smell :-) Hope this helps. I was thinking of writing a recommendation to the group - you've given me the perfect opening ;-) Kalynnda, mom to the seven furry freeloaders > I do not normally endorse products, but I have been very happy with a > product called Nok-out (http://www.nokout.com/). I got the > deodorizer/disinfectant in a spray bottle. It completely took out the > odor that a plastic covered litter box had absorbed (after two spray > treatments with Nok-out). Is this product designed specifically for cat litter odors, or for use around pets? I just want to be sure that it's safe for cats to ingest it, because if it's in their litter, they will ingest it eventually. Thanks, Joyce > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Thanks, > Joyce Joyce, per their website, it is completely non-toxic and can even be sprayed on the cat! It's not designed for cat litter odors, specifically, but for all kinds of odors. I haven't done more than use it on the litter (about a month now). All I can say is that it works, and I haven't seen any negative impacts. I think I'll skip spraying it on the cats, however. Though if we get a kitten again someday...I wonder how it does on kitten farts? Kalynnda >> Is this product designed specifically for cat litter odors, or for use >> around pets? I just want to be sure that it's safe for cats to ingest >> it, because if it's in their litter, they will ingest it eventually. > Joyce, per their website, it is completely non-toxic and can even be > sprayed on the cat! It's not designed for cat litter odors, > specifically, but for all kinds of odors. After I posted that question, I thought, hey, why don't I just go to the website and see for myself? :) I noticed that they kept calling it a "broad-spectrum" disinfectant. This makes me wonder if it works sort of like an antibiotic, and if so, could it then have the same kind of harmful effects that using antibacterial soaps can have, which is to (over time) breed more resistant bacteria? Also, even if you don't spary it on the cats, they are stepping in the litter, and later washing themselves, so they will definitely ingest the stuff. That makes me a little nervous. It does sound wonderful, and I would really like to have something that cuts down on odor. One of my cats (I suspect it's Smudge, but I'm not sure) has pee that doesn't really cause the litter to clump. Instead it just gets kind of sludgy and falls apart when I try to scoop it. That really causes the litter to get smelly much faster than it would if everyone's pee clumped the litter. Joyce > I haven't done more than use it on the litter (about a month now). All > I can say is that it works, and I haven't seen any negative impacts. I > think I'll skip spraying it on the cats, however. Though if we get a > kitten again someday...I wonder how it does on kitten farts? > Kalynnda  SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. <snip> > I noticed that they kept calling it a "broad-spectrum" disinfectant. > This makes me wonder if it works sort of like an antibiotic, and if so, > could it then have the same kind of harmful effects that using > antibacterial soaps can have, which is to (over time) breed more > resistant bacteria? I did some looking on the web for "Chlorine dioxide" (the active ingredient) and resistant bacteria. I did find this about another product: "Selectrocide is greater than 99% pure chlorine dioxide, an ideal biocide because of its ability to kill viruses, bacteria, fungi, and algae at low saturation levels (parts per million) in a manner that does not allow pathogens to build resistance to the compound." The product in the quotes is being used to combat MRSA (the resistant staph infection) in hospitals. As with everything, we have to decide what we are, or are not, comfortable with. Reading the MSDS for Nok-out convinced me that it's safe for small ingestion (what they would pick up stepping in residue), and that the only problem would be if they drank a lot of it. You have very legitimate concerns, and I thank you for raising them. I didn't think in terms of it generating resistant bacteria before. > <snip>One of my cats (I suspect it's Smudge, but > I'm not sure) has pee that doesn't really cause the litter to clump. > Instead it just gets kind of sludgy and falls apart when I try to > scoop it. That really causes the litter to get smelly much faster > than it would if everyone's pee clumped the litter. Boy, do I relate to that! We were using a cheap litter from Petsmart (I can't remember the name, it came in a bag), and the litter would clump, but sometimes fall apart if you didn't get to it within a few hours. It does seem that some cat's pee is more "something" (acidic, alkaline, ???) than others. I went back to the cheap stuff from Walmart (Special Kitty, I think) - it says it's scented, but I can't smell it. It certainly seems to hold together a lot better. I don't scoop the litter boxes in the basement as often as I should, and the litter seems to hold up OK, even when it only gets scooped twice a week. Good luck! It's a good thing the cats provide so much joy to us, to make up for having to deal with litter boxes, cat urp, and rodent parts. Kalynnda > Have never tried any and would welcome your thoughts/advice. Since the > litterbox is in my bedroom, can use all the help I can get. I use Tidy [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > harm my loveable but despotic furry masters. Lorna & the Chesniks (Chessie > & Nikki) Suggestion: Use a small electric air cleaner. Try looking up Holmes air cleaners on the "puter. They use a carbon filter. I keep it running in the bathroom where I have the cat's pan. I also use Arm and Hammer scoopable litter and scoop twice daily. Best wishes. MLB > Have never tried any and would welcome your thoughts/advice. Since the > litterbox is in my bedroom, can use all the help I can get. I use Tidy [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > anything which might harm my loveable but despotic furry masters. > Lorna & the Chesniks (Chessie & Nikki) This isn't an answer to the specific question you asked since you asked about deodorizer. However, I have found that the *scoop* (called Litter-Lifter) that I use has almost completely eliminated odor. You wouldn't think a scoop would do that, but it does. It is long and sturdy, and the "tines" on it are wedge-shaped. As a result, you don't "shake" this scoop. Just lift a clump and all the clean litter will fall through. As a result, the clumps are not broken up -- and therefore, no odor. I have even found that I don't need to completely change litter as often. You can see the Litter-Lifter at this site: http://www.thecatconnection.com/page/TCC/PROD/LTR/LTR-LIFT Incidentally, there is a video on this page. The video is rather ridiculous because it makes scooping litter look like it's a real chore. Nevertheless, this really is an excellent product. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'< Duffy: http://tinyurl.com/cslwf Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e >> Have never tried any and would welcome your thoughts/advice. Since the >> litterbox is in my bedroom, can use all the help I can get. I use Tidy [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > makes scooping litter look like it's a real chore. Nevertheless, this > really is an excellent product. I saw them at PetsMart and bought one a while back. While I do find that they scoop well, they're harder for me to use (the pain in my arm, shoulder and neck make lifting even small weights really hard) - I don't know why, but I think it's something to do with the different leverage you have to use since the Litter-Lifter is longer and shallower than a regular scoop. Also, I don't know if it's the boys added to the equation, but even with 6 litter boxes scooped twice a day, our garage has a really, really strong (*BAD*) smell all the time - even the evening of the day I empty and clean them with Lysol! The boys were neutered at 8 weeks, so I didn't think there would be any difference in the smell of their urine, but it's driving me batty trying to eliminate the odor from my garage (and I'm paranoid about the smell getting into the rest of the house and guests smelling that tell-tale odor of the "house of the crazy cat lady" ;>). Hugs, CatNipped > MaryL > > Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'< > Duffy: http://tinyurl.com/cslwf > Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o > Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e <snip> Also, > I don't know if it's the boys added to the equation, but even with 6 > litter boxes scooped twice a day, our garage has a really, really strong [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > CatNipped How long has it been since they were neutered? I can sometimes take a few weeks for the "pungent" odor to subside in male kitties. And are the boxes themselves old? As Sherry said, plastic boxes can absorb odor and may need to be replaced after awhile. MaryL >> I don't know if it's the boys added to the equation, but even with 6 >> litter boxes scooped twice a day, our garage has a really, really [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > themselves old? As Sherry said, plastic boxes can absorb odor and may need > to be replaced after awhile. The floor could also absorb it, if it's wood or concrete. Lysol is pretty toxic and a lousy deodorant. I use a combination of peroxide bleach and industrial-type urine neutralizer - the stuff they use in old folks' homes, I buy it from a trade cleaning supplies firm. ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 >>> I don't know if it's the boys added to the equation, but even with 6 >>> litter boxes scooped twice a day, our garage has a really, really [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > peroxide bleach and industrial-type urine neutralizer - the stuff they > use in old folks' homes, I buy it from a trade cleaning supplies firm. That's another good idea. Do you buy it online, or in person? Hugs, CatNipped > ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk > ============== [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 > 557 [eliminating the urine smell from around a litterbox] >> I use a combination of peroxide bleach and industrial-type urine >> neutralizer - the stuff they use in old folks' homes, I buy it >> from a trade cleaning supplies firm. > That's another good idea. Do you buy it online, or in person? In person, but it should be easy enough to get online. I see from googling that there are several zillion different products aimed at different kinds of urine. The human-oriented one we've got is made by Prochem in the UK, comes in a 5-litre jerrycan and is labelled "B153 Urine Neutraliser". ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 > <snip> Also, >> I don't know if it's the boys added to the equation, but even with 6 [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > boxes themselves old? As Sherry said, plastic boxes can absorb odor and > may need to be replaced after awhile. They were neutered when they were 8 weeks old and they're about 6 months old now - I don't think that's the cause. But you and Sherry could be right about needing new litter boxes - a few of them are well over a year old. Hugs, CatNipped > MaryL >> <snip> Also, >>> I don't know if it's the boys added to the equation, but even with 6 [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >> MaryL Well, I would not call that "old." A litter box should last several years if it is cleaned regularly. However, they will start to absorb odors after a period of time. MaryL > Have never tried any and would welcome your thoughts/advice. Since the > litterbox is in my bedroom, can use all the help I can get. I use Tidy Cat [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > anything which might harm my loveable but despotic furry masters. > Lorna & the Chesniks (Chessie & Nikki) Lorna, I've seen a product in Petsmart that's marketed by Nature's Miracle. It's granules that you sprinkle on top of the litter. I haven't used it, but I suspect it's a decent product *because* it's a Nature's Miracle product. Downside is, it's rather expensive (about $9 for a can of it). It may be cheaper to just completely change the litter more often. It likely works the same as Nature's Miracle, using enzymes that kill the bacteria (that causes the odor) instead of covering it up. If you use Tidy Cat, be sure to get the "longlasting" formula instead of the "immediate odor control" formula. Tidy Cat also has a "small spaces" formula. I like it; but it *is* rather perfumy and some cats don't like that. Sherry > Have never tried any and would welcome your thoughts/advice. Since the > litterbox is in my bedroom, can use all the help I can get. I use Tidy Cat [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > not come across any adverse comments but I still worry. Would never do > anything which might harm my loveable but despotic furry masters. I've heard from many sources that baking soda is a good neutralizer of eau de kitty litter. Sprinkle it on the bottom of the pan. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. > Have never tried any and would welcome your thoughts/advice. Since the > litterbox is in my bedroom, can use all the help I can get. I use Tidy Cat [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > anything which might harm my loveable but despotic furry masters. > Lorna & the Chesniks (Chessie & Nikki) I have had the litter box in my bedroom for years (small apartments), so I tried a lot of different litters until I settled on Scoop Away. It's the best litter for the smell. I'm a BAD mommy and most of the time only scoop once a week, and there's no smell. Jane - owned and operated by the Princess Rita > Have never tried any and would welcome your thoughts/advice. Since the > litterbox is in my bedroom, can use all the help I can get. I use Tidy Cat [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > anything which might harm my loveable but despotic furry masters. > Lorna & the Chesniks (Chessie & Nikki) Lorna--another thought I forgot to mention -- I've figured out that if I'm diligent with the changing/scooping, and still notice an odor, I need to either bleach out and sundry the boxes, or just replace them. Over time, those plastic boxes just get permeated with bacteria/odor. Sherry > Have never tried any and would welcome your thoughts/advice. Since the > litterbox is in my bedroom, can use all the help I can get. I use Tidy [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > anything which might harm my loveable but despotic furry masters. > Lorna & the Chesniks (Chessie & Nikki) Myself, I had no experience of a litterbox (I said I would never have one )until Kitty Farmcat got too frail and forgetful (no, she hasn't forgotten her beloved Licky!) to remember to *go* outside which was her always her preference. plus Boyfriend is not freaked out by a closed door now, so I keep him in overnight. I have two litterboxes for them and there is no odour that I can detect from either of them if I scoop them both once a day. I wouldn't use litter deodorizer. If you can detect a smell after scooping daily is it possible the litter box needs a reaally good scrub out? or maybe a new one? I know it is possible to get immune to any odours in your house so I have asked my friends to say with complete honesty if they can detect any cat odours and all of them say they can't. Tweed Many, many thanks from me to all who responded. Went out today and bought long-lasting odor control litter (I've been using 'immediate odor control'), a Febreze plug-in, and some Arm&Hammer deodorizer for the very bottom of the litter. Other suggestions like the Nokout, bleaching the box, and air cleaner will be considered too - I'm going to print out everything and keep for reference. While shopping today, bought a Cat-Napper which Chessie and Nikki are taking turns exploring - I sprinkled a bit of catnip in the bottom so they are quite interested. Also bought them a dog toy which I will "marinate" in a plastic bag with catnip. They had a rather large mouse which was great fun to kick around - much better than the small mice sold for cats. Chessie is 14, Nikki 13, and I am so happy to say they both play like kittens (esp. at night in bed) - as someone mentioned, our kitties are worth any amount of trouble. I mostly lurk here but enjoy this group so much (laughed out loud at Baha's turkey story) - am very grateful for all the advice and comments. Lorna & the Chesniks PS - the Febreze plug-in has refills that are supposed to smell like clothes on a clothesline - today's kids wouldn't have the pleasure of knowing that scent would they - of course, those good memories are somewhat offset by remembering taking in laundry which was frozen stiff on the line <g> > Have never tried any and would welcome your thoughts/advice. Since the > litterbox is in my bedroom, can use all the help I can get. I use Tidy [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > anything which might harm my loveable but despotic furry masters. > Lorna & the Chesniks (Chessie & Nikki) An alla God's children said AMEN. I remember standing the jeans in a corner until they thawed!! You could actually break a towel in half if you forced it to bend when frozen. and, the "unmentionables that were hung between the lines hidden by sheets (my how times have changed), were quietly left in the basket in another room until they thawed!!!!! > Many, many thanks from me to all who responded. Went out today and bought > long-lasting odor control litter (I've been using 'immediate odor [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> anything which might harm my loveable but despotic furry masters. >> Lorna & the Chesniks (Chessie & Nikki) I swear by Arm and Hammer scoopable litter. No odor.
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