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Mark Edwards - 25 Nov 2007 23:10 GMT
I just had a couple of 11- or 12-year-old boys at my door asking some
unusual questions that have me a bit worried.

First, they claimed to be looking for cats to breed. In an area that
is already overrun with strays and ferals. They seemed especially
interested in Blackie, the local black cat.

Then they asked if I liked fishing, and if I had any hooks.

Now, this all sounds suspiciously as if they plan some animal torture
and/or killing to me. Or, at the very least, as if they are up to no
good.

I want to report this suspicious activity, but who should I talk to,
and what, precisely, should I report? I'm not sure if these two live
here, although I have seen them on the property before.

Hugs and Purrs,
Mark
Victor Martinez - 25 Nov 2007 23:26 GMT
> I want to report this suspicious activity, but who should I talk to,
> and what, precisely, should I report? I'm not sure if these two live
> here, although I have seen them on the property before.

I would find their parents asap, and if that is not possible, contact
the police. Animal cruelty is a felony in Texas.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 27 Nov 2007 02:09 GMT
>> I want to report this suspicious activity, but who should I talk to,
>> and what, precisely, should I report? I'm not sure if these two live
>> here, although I have seen them on the property before.
>
> I would find their parents asap, and if that is not possible, contact
> the police. Animal cruelty is a felony in Texas.

I think it can carry a jail sentence in Arizona, too!  (Nice
to know SOME states in the U.S. are serious about animal
welfare.)
Sherry - 27 Nov 2007 03:33 GMT
On Nov 26, 8:09 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> >> I want to report this suspicious activity, but who should I talk to,
> >> and what, precisely, should I report? I'm not sure if these two live
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> to know SOME states in the U.S. are serious about animal
> welfare.)

Animal cruelty is a felony in thirty-one states. The problem is
enforcement
and getting the max sentence actually handed down.
Unfortunately, law enforcement won't do anything in an official
capacity in Mark's case, because nothing has been done *yet*. I do
hope they have a *serious* talk with the boys and their parents,
because
it *is* way too suspicious to ignore.

Sherry
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 27 Nov 2007 08:12 GMT
> Animal cruelty is a felony in thirty-one states. The problem is
> enforcement and getting the max sentence actually handed down.
> Unfortunately, law enforcement won't do anything in an official
> capacity in Mark's case, because nothing has been done *yet*. I do
> hope they have a *serious* talk with the boys and their parents,
> because it *is* way too suspicious to ignore.

Well, if they're reluctant to do anything about potential animal
cruelty, one angle to play up is that kids who torture animals often
grow up to abuse, torture, and sometimes even kill, other people.
If an antisocial personality is brewing in either of those boys, now
would be the time for an intervention, not just for the sake of any
cats they may harm, but also for any humans they might harm in the
future.

Joyce
Sherry - 27 Nov 2007 21:42 GMT
On Nov 27, 2:12 am, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:

>  > Animal cruelty is a felony in thirty-one states. The problem is
>  > enforcement and getting the max sentence actually handed down.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Joyce

I don't think it's that police don't want to do anything. There's just
no
legal leg to stand on for any kind of an official intervention, from
what Mark's
described, even though you, and I, and even the police know they're up
to
no good. A kid asking those kinds of questions isn't against the law,
and they
can't do anything legally for what they "Might" do.
A good cop would have a talk with them and their parents, and urge
their parents to take this very seriously. I would hope so.

Sherry
Matthew - 25 Nov 2007 23:29 GMT
call the police  report them
yes sounds like they are up to no good
got a camera take a picture of them  let them know you took the picture so
if they are up to no good they know they will be caught

> I just had a couple of 11- or 12-year-old boys at my door asking some
> unusual questions that have me a bit worried.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Hugs and Purrs,
> Mark
Lorna - 25 Nov 2007 23:34 GMT
> I just had a couple of 11- or 12-year-old boys at my door asking some
> unusual questions that have me a bit worried.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Hugs and Purrs,
> Mark

Mark - It hurts just to read your message - I would talk with the policeto
put them on notice and perhaps they can even give you some advice.  I agree
with you this sounds like boys planning animal torture and police should be
interested as even worse usually follows.  Even if they were just trying to
get a rise out of you, this is abnormal behavior.
Lorna & the Chesniks (Chessie & Nikki)
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 25 Nov 2007 23:44 GMT
> I just had a couple of 11- or 12-year-old boys at my door asking some
> unusual questions that have me a bit worried.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Hugs and Purrs,
> Mark

I agree with everyone else, try and get a photo of them, tell them
Blackie is YOUR cat (if need be), then call the police and report
suspicious behavio(u)r of two juveniles.

Smokie Darling (Annie)
Daniel Mahoney - 25 Nov 2007 23:54 GMT
> I just had a couple of 11- or 12-year-old boys at my door asking some
> unusual questions that have me a bit worried.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Hugs and Purrs,
> Mark

Call the police first, then the local animal control folks. Before the
cops arrive sit down and write down as complete a description of the
kids as you can, and as complete a description of what they asked and
how they asked it as you are able to remember.

Dan
Kreisleriana - 26 Nov 2007 03:12 GMT
> I just had a couple of 11- or 12-year-old boys at my door asking some
> unusual questions that have me a bit worried.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and what, precisely, should I report? I'm not sure if these two live
> here, although I have seen them on the property before.

I can only echo the other advice, and say, Poor Mark!  You really seem to
have been chosen to bear all your local stupidity lately.  Cats to breed, my
lily white.
Baha - 26 Nov 2007 19:55 GMT
>I just had a couple of 11- or 12-year-old boys at my door asking some
>unusual questions that have me a bit worried.
>
>First, they claimed to be looking for cats to breed. In an area that
>is already overrun with strays and ferals. They seemed especially
>interested in Blackie, the local black cat.

Ugh. this is just chilling me. I'd definitely bring in the police on this one,
and the local SPCA chapter at that, because in a lot of places they have
animal welfare enforcement that overlaps and works with law enforcement.
"Cats to breed" indeed! Eleven year olds? Best to get the police to nip this
in the bud before the kids grow up to become the guests of honor on a
Dateline NBC special report.

Blessed be,
Baha
 
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