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Mark Edwards - 25 Nov 2007 18:57 GMT
Little Boy comes in and night, but Bucky stayed out for two days.

So Friday morning when I feed the ferals, Bucky comes bounding in, and
runs up to Little Boy as if to say, "C'mon, you gotta see this!" I
open the front door to feed the ferals at THAT door, and Bucky and
Little Boy bound out that door together.

Well, it's cold and raining outside. Inside of half an hour, Bucky and
Little Boy stand, with paws on the window sill, meowing to come back
in. My thought is that Little Boy told Bucky what a stupid idea it was
to go out (Little Boy likes his comforts more).

So both are back in for the weekend (yay!) - management is offsite
during the weekends. Being allowed to go outside seems to have
invigorated Bucky, at least.

I am STILL looking to find a place of our own, so that we don't HAVE
to let two cats out during the day.

Hugs and Purrs,
Mark
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Karen - 26 Nov 2007 05:20 GMT
> Little Boy comes in and night, but Bucky stayed out for two days.
>
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> Hugs and Purrs,
> Mark

I still think its insane to put cats out for that reason. Is management
going to come in and do a head count? Since you are looking, I'd sure
be tempted to make a really comfy room inside and just put them in
there for the day if you think management might knock on the door. I
don't think they can just ask to inspect around can they?
jmcquown - 26 Nov 2007 17:32 GMT
>> Little Boy comes in and night, but Bucky stayed out for two days.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> there for the day if you think management might knock on the door. I
> don't think they can just ask to inspect around can they?

I don't know the terms of Mark's lease.  But where I live the manager and
also maintenance people can come and go as they please, whether I'm at home
or not.  I'd come home from work to find the pest control people (who are
only under contract, they don't actually *work* for the complex) had come in
and sprayed in my absence.  They' leave a card on my kitchen counter.  Trust
me, I did not appreciate having strangers come into my home when I wasn't
around.  So I printed out a big bold sign and taped it to the front door:
NO SPRAYING INSIDE DUE TO PETS.  But the point is, most apartment leases
allow for the manager and any of their staff to have full access to the
premises.

Jill
Daniel Mahoney - 26 Nov 2007 17:35 GMT
> I don't know the terms of Mark's lease.  But where I live the manager and
> also maintenance people can come and go as they please, whether I'm at home
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Jill

It depends a lot on circumstances. When we were renting in California, the
law said that landlord could enter the property without notice only in
case of emergency. Other than an emergency situation, he was required to
give notice first (if I recall correctly 48 hours notice).

Here in Iowa I don't think that restriction exists.
jmcquown - 26 Nov 2007 18:15 GMT
>> I don't know the terms of Mark's lease.  But where I live the
>> manager and also maintenance people can come and go as they please,
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Here in Iowa I don't think that restriction exists.

True, the laws must vary all over.  And really, with the exception of the
pest control folks I don't think any of the apartment complex employees care
to go traipsing through my apartment all willy-nilly :)  However, Mark's
landlord has told him to put two of the cats out so I'm sure the jerk will
find some excuse to enter the premises... even if he has to manufacture an
"emergency".
Granby - 26 Nov 2007 19:04 GMT
Probably in Iowa you walk in someone's house unannounced you would be met
with a 12gague shotgun!!!  People ususally respect each others privacy.
>> I don't know the terms of Mark's lease.  But where I live the manager and
>> also maintenance people can come and go as they please, whether I'm at
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Here in Iowa I don't think that restriction exists.
Kalynnda Berens - 26 Nov 2007 23:19 GMT
> Probably in Iowa you walk in someone's house unannounced you would be met
> with a 12gague shotgun!!!  People ususally respect each others privacy.

Now, now. The most an unannounced visitor would find in our house (in
Cedar Rapids, IA) is a couple of partly dressed humans (we scared our
neighbors and had to put up drapes), one fat cat who will trip them as
he positions himself for attention, and six other cats scurrying for cover.

Now if said unannounced visitor had bad intentions, s/he'd get a cat
tossed at his face (think claws extended) followed by any number of
arcane weapons (sword, staff, dagger, a second cat, and one pudgy
screaming black belt). :-)

And Mark, I really hope you can find a solution that lets you keep all
your kitties, or finds them good, loving homes.

Kalynnda, who just had Velcro announce that he wanted attention by
stretching up and trying to break my computer keyboard drawer. It's
amazing how strong a 19 lb. cat can be.
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 26 Nov 2007 23:37 GMT
> Now if said unannounced visitor had bad intentions, s/he'd get a cat
> tossed at his face (think claws extended) followed by any number of
> arcane weapons (sword, staff, dagger, a second cat, and one pudgy
> screaming black belt). :-)

Hmm. This sounds comical, but if an intruder seeming to have bad
intentions were in my house, I would do everything I could to keep
my cats *away* from that person (possibly jeopardizing my own safety
in the process).

I mean, if a cat were to scratch an intruder's face and then manage
to get away, then the cat would probably be a good weapon of self-
defense. I would just be too afraid to take the chance that the person
would get hold of the kitty and hurt it.

Joyce

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Matthew - 26 Nov 2007 23:59 GMT
> > Now if said unannounced visitor had bad intentions, s/he'd get a cat
> > tossed at his face (think claws extended) followed by any number of
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>
> Joyce

Agreed
Or in the same sense intruder gets away and sue you for being attacked by
the cat.

I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click click
boom
sam - 27 Nov 2007 03:33 GMT
> I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click click
> boom

Single action revolver, Matthew?  He only gets one click here.

Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
Matthew - 27 Nov 2007 04:12 GMT
>> I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click click
>> boom
> Single action revolver, Matthew?  He only gets one click here.
>
> Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe

Never keep the first round chambered Rule one of a gun owner with children
or cats ;-)  It also helps if some one takes it away from you and pulls the
trigger on you  give you a few seconds to deal with the situation.

But I have one of those too  derringer 44 but it is also have something a
little more deadlier    12 gauge over under with  specially loaded ammo.  I
feel sorry if I have to use that it took me along time to make those two
shells ;-)

I have a nice collection now I got my mother trained on how to use them.  I
hate to see some one facing a little old lady with a big shotgun that got
taken away from her stories ;-)
Adrian A - 27 Nov 2007 11:52 GMT
>> I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click
>> click boom
>>
> Single action revolver, Matthew?  He only gets one click here.
>
> Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe

Typical of Matthew! No wonder he's never been able to stay married.
Lesley - 27 Nov 2007 14:06 GMT
> >> I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click
> >> click boom
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Typical of Matthew! No wonder he's never been able to stay married.

And where was the beverage warning for that Adrian?

I've just sprayed beer over my monitor and worse still...Dunzi was
sitting next to me!

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Matthew - 27 Nov 2007 16:16 GMT
>> >> I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click
>> >> click boom
>>
>> > Single action revolver, Matthew?  He only gets one click here.
>>
>> > Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe

<snipped>

> And where was the beverage warning for that Adrian?
>
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>
> Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

Thanks Lesley  That was no way funny
Joy - 28 Nov 2007 01:04 GMT
>>> >> I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click
>>> >> click boom
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Thanks Lesley  That was no way funny

I didn't think so.  I've just added to my killfile.

Joy
Adrian A - 27 Nov 2007 16:34 GMT
>> >> I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click
>> >> click boom
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

Apologies to Dunzi. ;-)
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Lesley - 27 Nov 2007 18:05 GMT
> Apologies to Dunzi. ;-)
> --
I'll give her an extra skritch from you when she wakes up- glaring at
the Hoomin has left her knackered and she's currently a small ball of
fur by the bedroom door

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
ADRAIN IS A A@@ - 27 Nov 2007 16:14 GMT
>>> I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click
>>> click boom
>>>
>> Single action revolver, Matthew?  He only gets one click here.
>>
>> Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe

<SNIPPED FOR BEING POSTED BY AN a.shole>

GO f.ck YOUR SELF YOU LOW LIFE PIECE OF sh.t.  YOU f.cking ARE A w.nker

YOU ARE f.cking COWARD.  YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE THE BALLS TO SAY THAT IN FRONT
OF ME OR ANYONE ELSE FOR YOU KNOW YOU WOULD GET YOUR a.s KICKED. YOU PIECE
OF sh.t.  KEEP f.cking WITH ME AND YOU WILL REGRET IT
Adrian A - 27 Nov 2007 16:23 GMT
>>>> I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click
>>>> click boom
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> FRONT OF ME OR ANYONE ELSE FOR YOU KNOW YOU WOULD GET YOUR a.s KICKED. YOU
> PIECE OF sh.t.  KEEP f.cking WITH ME AND YOU WILL REGRET IT
Adrian A - 27 Nov 2007 16:25 GMT
Clearly too much of a coward to post using a real address. You're a looser
Mathew and you know it.
ADRIAN IS AN A@@ - 27 Nov 2007 16:43 GMT
< snipped for ebing posted by an a.shole >

Why would I post me real address to someone who is an a.shole.  The people
who I care about and trust have my email.  Anyone who doesn't have it. I
will gladly give it except for the pieces of sh.t like you.

You have me kill filed a.shole but you feel brave to respond behind your
kill file to my post.  We call that a internet Rambo but they are nothing
better than a coward; which you are.  You are going to hear that the rest of
your life.  Coward.  This conversation is going to piss you off all day
long.  All you had to do is walk away but no  you have to be a piece of sh.t 
don't you.

You prove every time you say something about me and now my family  THAT YOU
ARE A COWARD AND A w.nker.

I notice that you are a.shole in other groups also.  Seek for support across
the pond.  Walk away it is simple.

You got me in your kill file but I must be important in your life if you
feel like you have to comment about me that much.  I must get to you.

You are back in my kill file.  That is pretty bad you are in there with the
puppy wizard and his socket puppets

Going back to my normal display I am tired of dealing with pieces of sh.t 
like you
Exocat - 27 Nov 2007 17:52 GMT
STOP SHOUTING AND TAKE THIS AWAY FROM THIS GROUP. GARBAGE LIKE THIS HAS NO
PLACE HERE

Litterbox offerings
Gordon & the FF

> < snipped for ebing posted by an a.shole >
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> Going back to my normal display I am tired of dealing with pieces of sh.t 
> like you
A Hidden Cat Lover - 27 Nov 2007 18:42 GMT
That was kind of unnecessary offering litter box tidings.  A good
stop it would have been perfect but that is your right.

I looked back over the post between these two; being a lurker here
myself.  Agreed it doesn't belong in the newsgroup but it seems that
the Adrian A fellow antagonizes Matthew when every he sees on of his
post thru somone elses seply.  I say both of you Plonk one another and
stop responding to replies involving the other.  It is what is best
for the group.  Peace

Both need to stop.  Insulting ones family only is one step above being
a pityful person but calling someone a w.nker is not great thing
either.

It takes a bigger man to walk away.  Lets see if either of you can.
Just my 2 cents

Jack and Jill sending calming tidings to each so they will both stop
Matthew - 27 Nov 2007 20:56 GMT
My apologies to the group except to you know who

I realized after I sent the comments I should have keep it out of the group

But when I or my family is attacked, antagonized I will respond

The OP is in my kill file and will stay there permanently
sam - 28 Nov 2007 03:22 GMT
> My apologies to the group except to you know who
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> The OP is in my kill file and will stay there permanently

Add my apologies to the group as well.  I had no idea my post would set
off such an exchange.  Maybe I should just go back to lurking.

Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
Matthew - 28 Nov 2007 03:30 GMT
>> My apologies to the group except to you know who
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe

Don't you go anywhere.  The OP is the one with the problem with me.  You
didn't do anything wrong
jofirey - 28 Nov 2007 05:04 GMT
> Add my apologies to the group as well.  I had no idea my post would set
> off such an exchange.  Maybe I should just go back to lurking.
>
> Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe

Please don't.  Threads tend to go haywire around here for good or bad all
the time.  None of us hold the original poster responsible when they do.

(At least I don't think anyone does)

I'd like to invite any other lurkers to come out and play sometimes as well.

Jo
CatNipped - 29 Nov 2007 14:04 GMT
>> My apologies to the group except to you know who
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe

It's not anything you did, Sam, please don't feel that it's your fault.  The
beef between Adrian and Matthew goes back *way* before this thread and has
nothing to do with you or what you posted.  I vote you stick around, please!
;>

Hugs,

CatNipped
Karen - 27 Nov 2007 19:05 GMT
Would you two killfile each other already before we have to killfile you
both.

Yeesh. Both of you just need to do that.

>>>> I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click
>>>> click boom
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> FRONT OF ME OR ANYONE ELSE FOR YOU KNOW YOU WOULD GET YOUR a.s KICKED. YOU
> PIECE OF sh.t.  KEEP f.cking WITH ME AND YOU WILL REGRET IT
Christina Websell - 27 Nov 2007 20:26 GMT
> Would you two killfile each other already before we have to killfile you
> both.
>
> Yeesh. Both of you just need to do that.

I advised that around 7-10 days ago.
It is possible to debate about subjects on this group which both parties can
get heated about.  I have done it myself but have never seen the need to
post personal insults.  I think if you result to that your argument has
failed.
Both Adrian & Matthew are valued posters to this group.
I would like them both to take a step back for a week or so to see if
simmering feelings will go away, and then see if they can have a truce.  I
don't want to killfile either of them because I like both of them.
Individually.

Both have a lot to offer to the group.  Boys, if you feel you will never get
along, ever, just killfile each other.  You make me nervous.
I come to this group for an escape and you are ruining it with your nasty
hateful arguments over nothing that is important.

Tweed
Matthew - 27 Nov 2007 20:44 GMT
MY apologies

He is in my kill file now.  But I will respond to anyone who personally
insults me or attacks my family.  Specially if some one laughs at the
comment

>> Would you two killfile each other already before we have to killfile you
>> both.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Tweed
Matthew - 27 Nov 2007 21:25 GMT
>> Would you two killfile each other already before we have to killfile you
>> both.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Tweed

I am sorry Christina I should have listen to you.  It has not been the
greatest time in the last couple weeks.  You can read my reply to Evelyn and
see why.  But that should not be an excuse.  I truly apologize to you and
the others that I call friends here in the group.

I just don't like being attacked twice in one week and my family being
attack .
And I don't seek him out either to have it done either.  The who will not be
named is on my kill file now and I hope people will remove any replies to
him that involve me.
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 27 Nov 2007 21:29 GMT
> Both Adrian & Matthew are valued posters to this group.

> I would like them both to take a step back for a week or so to see if
> simmering feelings will go away, and then see if they can have a truce.  I
> don't want to killfile either of them because I like both of them.
> Individually.

> Both have a lot to offer to the group.  Boys, if you feel you will never get
> along, ever, just killfile each other.  You make me nervous.
> I come to this group for an escape and you are ruining it with your nasty
> hateful arguments over nothing that is important.

There are two problems here. One is, I don't think they're really
disagreeing about subjects or issues. I think it's just that they can't
stand each other. One of them could say, "The sun is shining," and the
other would say "You're such an *ssh*l*". :) It's more a personality
thing than an opinion thing, IMO.

Second, killfiling fails when other people quote the person you've
killfiled - suddenly, they have risen from the dead and are back on
your screen. I know there are some news clients that have fairly
sophisticated killfile functions, where you can kf posts not only
made by the poster in question, but also any posts that *quote* that
poster. As I understand it, this flame fest happened because one
person saw quoted comments written by the other in a third person's
else's posts. I don't know if either Adrian or Matthew have that
capability, but it might be worth looking into.

Joyce
Matthew - 28 Nov 2007 01:57 GMT
> > Both Adrian & Matthew are valued posters to this group.

Thank you
> > I would like them both to take a step back for a week or so to see if
> > simmering feelings will go away, and then see if they can have a truce.
> > I
> > don't want to killfile either of them because I like both of them.
> > Individually.

I done he can flame all he wants, say what he wants. I am done

> > Both have a lot to offer to the group.  Boys, if you feel you will never
> > get
> > along, ever, just killfile each other.  You make me nervous.
> > I come to this group for an escape and you are ruining it with your
> > nasty
> > hateful arguments over nothing that is important.

I am sorry it is my place to get away  quite a few of you have kept me sane.
A few have helped save my furballs for that I am forever grateful

> There are two problems here. One is, I don't think they're really
> disagreeing about subjects or issues. I think it's just that they can't
> stand each other. One of them could say, "The sun is shining," and the
> other would say "You're such an *ssh*l*". :) It's more a personality
> thing than an opinion thing, IMO.

It is much more than that.  I actually liked him when I first came here a
couple years ago.  It all stems back to arguments with a poster who no
longer comes here.  We had problems than she had problems with the whole
group.  He joined in, backed her and it escalated from there.  He has never
let it go.  I personally could care less what he does but I will not stand
idle by and specially when I have been attacked twice in a week, been wished
a short life and have my family life attacked. Than have someone laugh about
it.

You can read my response to Evelyn and see why I am very irritated with the
situation.  I apologize to the group.
I had cleaned out my kill file but he is back in there along with the puppy
wizard and his sock puppets.

> Second, killfiling fails when other people quote the person you've
> killfiled - suddenly, they have risen from the dead and are back on
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Joyce

If you know a link please post it.  I would love to add something like that.
I have him kill filed  supposed so does he but every time he sees a response
with my name in it he attacks.  I am done with him.  I asked him to walk
away before.  I am not going to go back down to his level again.  I
apologize once again to my friends and the group.
mlbriggs - 28 Nov 2007 06:33 GMT
>> > Both Adrian & Matthew are valued posters to this group.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
> to walk away before.  I am not going to go back down to his level again.
> I apologize once again to my friends and the group.

Matt -- as I have quoted before:
"Blessed are they who have nothing to say and cannot be persuaded to say
it".    Best wishes.   MLB
Matthew - 28 Nov 2007 07:01 GMT
>>> > Both Adrian & Matthew are valued posters to this group.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
> "Blessed are they who have nothing to say and cannot be persuaded to say
> it".    Best wishes.   MLB

OHHHHHH  NOOO   slapped with a quote.  I am a bad boy I am going to go stand
in the corner now ;-)
Matthew - 28 Nov 2007 07:10 GMT
>>>> > Both Adrian & Matthew are valued posters to this group.
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 68 lines]
> OHHHHHH  NOOO   slapped with a quote.  I am a bad boy I am going to go
> stand in the corner now ;-)
I do understand and will try  Not promising anything but  I will try that is
all I can guarantee.  I have too many friends out here.  I don't want to
disappoint them more than I have
Matthew - 27 Nov 2007 20:44 GMT
"Karen" <kchuplis@alltel.net>

I have
my apologies
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 27 Nov 2007 19:13 GMT
>>>I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click
>>>click boom
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Typical of Matthew! No wonder he's never been able to stay married.

Which "Matthew" is that?  I thought the one in Florida WAS
married (happily)!
Matthew - 27 Nov 2007 21:19 GMT
>>>>I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click
>>>>click boom
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Which "Matthew" is that?  I thought the one in Florida WAS married
> (happily)!

It is a totally Inappropriate remark and comment from two of them.

Evelyn,    Last year my now ex-wife took a turn for the worse in her mental
capacity.  She has had problems before in the past which were dealt with; by
daily  medications.  She went off her medication and literally turned evil
and dangerous. She gave up on everything started to be come compulsive with
her health and mine to the point were it was dangerous.

She attacked my elderly mother and myself.  She even tried to hurt my cats.
She gave up her job started spending and doing things that were not healthy;
even her family and friends told her so.  Than she got involved with her
sister which is the root of her problem and it went way south from there.
She stopped coming home, stopped bathing or changing clothes.  She got
caught drinking and driving which caused a solo accident, got in another
accident two days later. She got her license suspended and was arrested for
that when she got caught speeding.

I gave her a choice  please seek medical help or I was gone too sum it all
up.  It became very messy in the divorce.  We have a prenup that says the
business which I started comes to me, the cats come to me.  Everything that
I brought into the marriage with me belongs to me; such as family property
and my businesses.  What is hers is hers and what is mine is mine basically.
The rest that we acquired during marriage was to equally divided.  She got
one of the 3 houses. I had already paid for her and her kids college
education.  The other house was given to her by me; I did not need it and
was not going to put her kids out.  The prenup was in place and updated by
lawyers yearly and basically when someone fights it and loses they pay
attorney fees; she ran up quite a bit she had to sell the houses that her
kids were living in.  So she screwed her kids over with her mental problems.

She tried to steal the cats, to sell of things that belong to my family;
such as my father's rings. My first wife tried to kill my cats; I swore no
one would be able to hurt them again.  She broke into the house after the
injunction for domestic violence was served on her.  She got he kids
involved and lied to them. She lied to the judge and her lawyer about the
prenup; which when update were done it was video and audio taped.  Her first
lawyer dropped her as a client when my lawyer showed him the prenup.   She
told the judge their was violence and adultery in the marriage but when
question about it. The judge caught her in lies.  He even held her in
contempt for her continual ranting and out burst in the courtroom.  If one
lie did not work she would do another one.  The judge and even her own
attorneys caught her in the lies. The judge even order a mental evaluation
which she failed.  It ended up having her son have power of attorney to
continual everything.  They even challenged the divorce on the grounds of
her not being mental capable of signing but it was proven by her own doctor
that she was perfectly fit as a fiddle when she was on her meds which she
was at that time.

They were even shown by the judge what she had done and what she had lied
about.  But being her kids; not mine biologically, they believed mom.  The
son left one of my stores with no manager or access to money for the
cashier's.  He got in my face I told him to leave he shoved me. I called the
cops and got him removed. The management company the runs my employees fired
him and his sister when they refused to come to work.  I had to put up the
stores up for sale which the sales are final real soon.  I can't run all
there stores by myself and the kids were my managers that I trusted.  So I
found a buyer and I am going to retire soon. As a celebration for myself I
am going on a cruise in January.

On the another note she was placed in something like a halfway home by her
kids for people with mental problems.  Her family ( sister) says there is
nothing wrong but her kids put her there and have begged her to stay on the
meds.  She has to be forced to take them daily.   She is fine once she is
one them but doesn't want them.  I found out thru her son a couple weeks ago
when he called me to tell me what happened and to apologize for his and his
sister mistake.  They asked me for help which I said I would do what I can.

So now you know why those comments about my now ex marriage where
inappropriate and I am a little irritated about it.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 28 Nov 2007 19:13 GMT
>>Which "Matthew" is that?  I thought the one in Florida WAS married
>>(happily)!

> Evelyn,    Last year my now ex-wife took a turn for the worse in her mental
> capacity.  <snip>

>  It became very messy in the divorce. <snip>

> So now you know why those comments about my now ex marriage where
> inappropriate and I am a little irritated about it.

Wow!  Obviously I missed all that!  (Of course I don't read
ALL the posts on this newsgroup, there are just too many of
them, and real life interferes, sometimes.)  You have my
sympathy, FWIW - hope things are looking up for you, now.
Matthew - 28 Nov 2007 21:01 GMT
>>>Which "Matthew" is that?  I thought the one in Florida WAS married
>>>(happily)!
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> interferes, sometimes.)  You have my sympathy, FWIW - hope things are
> looking up for you, now.

Thanks you Evelyn It was a while back
My apologies about my other post
Adrian A - 28 Nov 2007 10:54 GMT
>>>> I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click
>>>> click boom
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Which "Matthew" is that?  I thought the one in Florida WAS
> married (happily)!

No, he was recently divorced again. Hence his temper tantrum which I
apologise for responding to.
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Christina Websell - 28 Nov 2007 18:43 GMT
>>>>> I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click
>>>>> click boom
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> No, he was recently divorced again. Hence his temper tantrum which I
> apologise for responding to.

It is no business of ours to judge why people get divorced.  Matthew has
made what must have been quite a painful post to explain why he did.  He
shouldn't have needed to do that.
I would like it if you would just ignore each others posts, even if you see
them quoted in another message.  Let this be a safe place, please.
I have no difficulty with a good robust argument around a topic, but the
moment it descends into personal insults is the time to step away. IMO.
And besides, if you do that, you have always lost the argument.

This is my last post on the subject.

Tweed
Stormmee - 29 Nov 2007 01:03 GMT
thank you, Lee

> >>>>> I won't say what would happen to an intruder in my house but click
> >>>>> click boom
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>
> Tweed
Daniel Mahoney - 27 Nov 2007 14:02 GMT
> Probably in Iowa you walk in someone's house unannounced you would be met
> with a 12gague shotgun!!!  People ususally respect each others privacy.

Well, in our house it would be a WWII sniper rifle, but the same principal
applies. People *do* usually respect each other's privacy, and if someone
intent on bad deeds was to try to enter the house he would get some
7.62x54R manner lessons. I don't take lightly the responsibility of
protecting my wife, my cats, and my self from harm.
annoyed@net.spammers - 27 Nov 2007 18:47 GMT
>> Probably in Iowa you walk in someone's house unannounced you would be met
>> with a 12gague shotgun!!!  People ususally respect each others privacy.
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>7.62x54R manner lessons. I don't take lightly the responsibility of
>protecting my wife, my cats, and my self from harm.

As we have neighbor houses relatively close by (within 200' for the
closest), that isn't an option for us.  A 1911 in .45ACP loaded with an 8
round mag of Federal HydraShok (with two 10-round Chip McCormick mags full
of 230 gr ball handy for replenishment) is our CQB choice right now.  A
Remington 870 is on the wish list but it would need a tactical pistol grip
for navigating the narrow hallway.  Minimizing wall penetration, from our
house into the neighbors' houses, is a must.  What kind of warning effect
would a 12 gauge shell loaded with used kitty litter have on a perp? ;)
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Stormmee - 27 Nov 2007 21:50 GMT
I swear you and my DH are related genetically somewhere along the way, Lee

> > Probably in Iowa you walk in someone's house unannounced you would be met
> > with a 12gague shotgun!!!  People ususally respect each others privacy.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> 7.62x54R manner lessons. I don't take lightly the responsibility of
> protecting my wife, my cats, and my self from harm.
Granby - 27 Nov 2007 22:03 GMT
When I first lived alone, someone asked me if I were going to get a gun.
Who Me!  Well, I then gave it some serious thought.  Little snub nose
something or,  one of those big magnum things.  Then my 14 year old grandson
came up with the perfect weapon. "Gramby"  he said, "Your best bet would be
a SCATTER GUN.  No better than you can see, this would be best."  NOOO, I
didn't run out and get one.
>I swear you and my DH are related genetically somewhere along the way, Lee
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> 7.62x54R manner lessons. I don't take lightly the responsibility of
>> protecting my wife, my cats, and my self from harm.
Stormmee - 27 Nov 2007 22:25 GMT
and if you did you wouldn't tell anyone in that town or the criminal element
would know in advance, Lee
> When I first lived alone, someone asked me if I were going to get a gun.
> Who Me!  Well, I then gave it some serious thought.  Little snub nose
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> >> 7.62x54R manner lessons. I don't take lightly the responsibility of
> >> protecting my wife, my cats, and my self from harm.
Karen - 27 Nov 2007 17:46 GMT
>>> Little Boy comes in and night, but Bucky stayed out for two days.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> Jill

Hmm, mine ask permission to come in while I am not there even for
maintenance i've requested.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 27 Nov 2007 19:36 GMT
> Hmm, mine ask permission to come in while I am not there even for
> maintenance i've requested.

As did mine, until I moved here.  Because this is a "senior
facility", they must have emergency access to our
apartments.  However, that access is supposed to be limited,
and we sign documents when we move in, specifying whether
their various services - maintenance, housekeeping, etc.
have permission to enter in our absence.  Since I only pay
for one meal in the dining room, and make my own breakfast
so I can sleep in, I was not amused when I was awakened
about six-thirty A.M. last Wednesday by light streaming into
my apartment from the opened front door, followed by a
startled gasp as my furry escape artist confronted the
intruder!   Aside from the fact that seems an ungodly hour
for housekeeping to put in an appearance, they are SUPPOSED
to knock.  (No one pays any attention to my doorbell and the
sign above it.)  If she did, it certainly was not loud
enough to be heard, nor did she allow time for me to answer!
 (Some of the other residents have apparently had them walk
in when they were using the toilet, or stark naked in the
shower, so I guess I was luck I was only in bed, asleep.)
Of course, my immediate, half-awake response was to scream
"GET OUT!" and head toward the door in my nightclothes to
enforce it.

"Rules" or no rules, there is now a security chain on my
door, which should discourage further invasions (although
unfortunately, it allows the door to open wide enough for
Melisande to slip out).  I know from experience (a burglary
when I lived in Pasadena) that those chains are easily
broken if someone is really DETERMINED to get in, which
should make it okay for paramedics or true emergencies, but
hopefully it will discourage any more over-eager members of
the housekeeping staff.  (Who apparently neither read nor
speak English.)
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 27 Nov 2007 19:15 GMT
>> Little Boy comes in and night, but Bucky stayed out for two days.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> for the day if you think management might knock on the door. I don't
> think they can just ask to inspect around can they?

Depends upon where you live.  I think most places they have
to give you notice they intend to do so, but I'm not sure.
Karen - 26 Nov 2007 05:20 GMT
> Little Boy comes in and night, but Bucky stayed out for two days.
>
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> Hugs and Purrs,
> Mark

P.s. I'm extremely relieved to hear Bucky showed up. I kept looking for posts.
Christina Websell - 27 Nov 2007 19:48 GMT
> Little Boy comes in and night, but Bucky stayed out for two days.
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> I am STILL looking to find a place of our own, so that we don't HAVE
> to let two cats out during the day.

And I am praying for you to find one pretty damn quick.  You may have
killfiled me perhaps, since you have never responded to me ever but hey, I
am wishing that you can find a place where you can keep all your kitties and
will be happy.

Tweed
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 27 Nov 2007 21:32 GMT
> And I am praying for you to find one pretty damn quick.  You may have
> killfiled me perhaps, since you have never responded to me ever but
> hey, I am wishing that you can find a place where you can keep all
> your kitties and will be happy.

Mark doesn't respond to most posts, I've noticed. I thought the same
thing as regards my own posts, but he has responded to some, so I know
I haven't been kf'ed. Probably just a time-management thing.

Joyce
Stormmee - 27 Nov 2007 21:56 GMT
I think he is like me, I purr for those who want it but don't get to respond
as much as I would like due to time constraints... heck I don't even get to
read all I want, today I am getting sicker and sicker so I figure I will
read until I can't make sense of it, Lee

> > Little Boy comes in and night, but Bucky stayed out for two days.
> >
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>
> Tweed

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