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MaryL - 22 Nov 2007 15:26 GMT
I opened a closet door to replace the leaf of a table I had used for dinner
awhile ago.  A short time later, I noticed Duffy sitting in front of the
closet door and staring intently at it.  I couldn't figure out why he was so
interested, but I opened the door -- and out marched Holly.  It's actually a
good thing that Duffy "directed" me because I seldom use that closet.  It
would have taken me a long time to search for Holly in that location.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING (U.S.), everyone!

MaryL
Hazel Az - 22 Nov 2007 15:46 GMT
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone and all their kitties.

Hazel Az
>I opened a closet door to replace the leaf of a table I had used for dinner
>awhile ago.  A short time later, I noticed Duffy sitting in front of the
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> MaryL
Hazel Az - 22 Nov 2007 17:10 GMT
Oh, and BTW did I mention that I think Duffy is one of the coolest cats
ever?  Everyone here has very special cats, (especially me) but Duffy is
magic.

> Happy Thanksgiving to everyone and all their kitties.
>
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>> MaryL
MaryL - 22 Nov 2007 20:36 GMT
> Oh, and BTW did I mention that I think Duffy is one of the coolest cats
> ever?  Everyone here has very special cats, (especially me) but Duffy is
> magic.
>
> Hazel Az

Thanks.  Duffy really is magic.  That's a very good description of him.

MaryL
Kreisleriana - 22 Nov 2007 22:05 GMT
> Happy Thanksgiving to everyone and all their kitties.
>
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>> MaryL

Duffy is The Man. ;)
jmcquown - 22 Nov 2007 15:57 GMT
> I opened a closet door to replace the leaf of a table I had used for
> dinner awhile ago.  A short time later, I noticed Duffy sitting in
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> MaryL

AWWWW!  It's great Duffy knew where Holly was and let you know.  I
accidentally shut Persia in the closet here in my office once.  I had no
idea she'd followed me in there (it's a walk-in closet).  Now it's one of
her favourite places to lounge so I have to leave the door a little bit open
;)
MaryL - 22 Nov 2007 16:07 GMT
>> I opened a closet door to replace the leaf of a table I had used for
>> dinner awhile ago.  A short time later, I noticed Duffy sitting in
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> open
> ;)

Yes, and I just noticed that I said Duffy was "staring" intently at the
door.  That's a good trick for a blind cat!  But this shows how well he
compensates, and his blindness isn't a disability at all.  Of course, he was
really "listening" or possibly "smelling."

MaryL
jmcquown - 22 Nov 2007 16:36 GMT
>>> I opened a closet door to replace the leaf of a table I had used for
>>> dinner awhile ago.  A short time later, I noticed Duffy sitting in
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> MaryL

Blindness isn't a factor.  He knows where his pal is!  Duffy has compensated
for his disability amazingly well.  (This reminds me of that poster "sue"
who wanted a cat but no cat ever satisfied her.  Methinks she never wanted a
cat at all.)

Please post the link to the photo of Duffy in the Christmas tree again.
It's timely since so many people are already putting up Christmas
decorations.  Duffy makes a lovely one :)

Jill
MaryL - 22 Nov 2007 20:24 GMT
>>>> I opened a closet door to replace the leaf of a table I had used for
>>>> dinner awhile ago.  A short time later, I noticed Duffy sitting in
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> Jill

Here you are. . .in fact, here are *three* "Duffy and the tree" photos.
Thanks for asking!

Duffy redesigns the Christmas tree: http://tinyurl.com/33y4fb
Duffy conquers the Christmas tree: http://tinyurl.com/2rqdlc
Duffy helps take down the Christmas tree: http://tinyurl.com/35tvr6

MaryL
leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 22 Nov 2007 23:26 GMT
> Duffy redesigns the Christmas tree:http://tinyurl.com/33y4fb
> Duffy conquers the Christmas tree:http://tinyurl.com/2rqdlc
> Duffy helps take down the Christmas tree:http://tinyurl.com/35tvr6
>
> MaryL

Wonderful photos :)

I think someone forgot to tell Duffy he is supposed to be blind!

Helen M
Kreisleriana - 23 Nov 2007 03:12 GMT
>>>> I opened a closet door to replace the leaf of a table I had used for
>>>> dinner awhile ago.  A short time later, I noticed Duffy sitting in
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> Jill

I will always love Duffy "singing."  I kept that over my desk for months. ;)
Marina - 23 Nov 2007 06:08 GMT
> Yes, and I just noticed that I said Duffy was "staring" intently at the
> door.  That's a good trick for a blind cat!  But this shows how well he
> compensates, and his blindness isn't a disability at all.  Of course, he was
> really "listening" or possibly "smelling."

I thought that was interesting, too. ;) But I udnerstood what you meant.
Good for Duffy!

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Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.

bastXXXette@sonic.net - 23 Nov 2007 07:35 GMT
> Yes, and I just noticed that I said Duffy was "staring" intently at the
> door.  That's a good trick for a blind cat!  But this shows how well he
> compensates, and his blindness isn't a disability at all.  Of course, he
> was really "listening" or possibly "smelling."

I used to sing with a blind woman who constantly used visual wording,
such as what you said, in her ordinary conversation, and she lost her
sight at a very young age, so I don't think this was due to a strong
memory of vision. And many of Stevie Wonder's lyrics contain visual
images of things he would actually have no idea of, yet they sound
convincing to me. I think it's hard not to, with the language being so
visually oriented.

In any case, Duffy knew Holly was in there, and that's something I
find remarkable. He's able to keep track of where another cat is, even
though he can't see her coming and going. Maybe she was making soft
noises in there that you couldn't hear, but Duffy could. Or maybe
he's just very aware of his surroundings and keeps track of Holly's
whereabouts. Either way, he's a good kitty! And Holly must have been
relieved!

I remember a segment of an Animal Planet program (called "Animal
Miracles"), where a cat scared off a burglar who'd broken into her
people's home while they were asleep. She jumped on the burglar,
taking him by surprise, and scratched him in the face. The guy
scrambled out the window to get away, leaving a bloody handprint
on the windowsill that helped the cops catch him. And the heroic
kitty? Totally blind.

Joyce
MaryL - 23 Nov 2007 17:20 GMT
> > Yes, and I just noticed that I said Duffy was "staring" intently at the
> > door.  That's a good trick for a blind cat!  But this shows how well he
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> Joyce

Those are good points.  I had a blind friend (still do, but she no longer
lives in this area), and she also talked in visual language.  She would talk
about seeing something or someone, and she would even match clothing colors.
She was blind since shortly after birth (very premature, too much oxygen in
the incubator), so she had never actually seen colors.  Nevertheless, she
had favorite colors and had a very strong sense of what would "look right"
together.  I would take her shopping and describe clothing and colors to
her, and she had a way of marking them so that she would know later which
things went together.  She read continuously -- sometimes in braille and
sometimes by listening to spoken books -- and that probably contributed to
her strong sense of colors.  I used to take her shopping and then out to
dinner once a week.  She would use the system of a "clock face" to know
which foods were at which position, but it was not pleasant to watch her eat
because of the way she had to push and "shovel" food around.  I occasionally
had someone ask me how I could "stand to eat with her" when she did that.
My attitude was that I was fortunate to have sight and those who would
criticize someone who couldn't see simply because their table manners looked
"unpleasant" were completely lacking in compassion and empathy.  The old
legend of "walking a mile in someone else's moccasins" comes to mind.

MaryL
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 23 Nov 2007 21:40 GMT
> I had a blind friend (still do, but she no longer
> lives in this area), and she also talked in visual language.  She would talk
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> had favorite colors and had a very strong sense of what would "look right"
> together.  

Interesting. I wonder how she conceived of these colors internally? They
must have been quite different, subjectively, from how we conceive of
those colors in our minds. (Of course, we don't even know if sighted
people conceive of colors the same way. How do we know that what *my*
brain thinks of a "blue" is the same as what your brain interprets it?)
When she chose colors that she thought looked good together, would those
pairings match our cultural ideas of what colors went together?

> She would use the system of a "clock face" to know which foods were
> at which position, but it was not pleasant to watch her eat because
> of the way she had to push and "shovel" food around.

You mean, pushing the food around her plate?

It's interesting that she had the concept of something spatial like a
clock face. But you can get that from touch, and a clock face is a small
thing, so I guess that does make sense. It's not like being able to
conceive of, say, relative sizes of different rooms. I would think that
would be hard to imagine if you can't see.

Did anyone read that story (true story) of the man who was blind from
a very young age, who had his sight restored in his 50s? His brain had
never learned of things like what size looks like. I remeber one
particular example, where he had a black and white dog and a black and
white cat, and he couldn't tell the difference between them just by
looking at them, evn though the dog was much larger. He could see their
colors, and he could see that they were the same colors. But size as a
visual concept didn't mean anything to him. He could only be sure which
animal it was when he touched them.

Joyce
MaryL - 23 Nov 2007 23:03 GMT
> > I had a blind friend (still do, but she no longer
> > lives in this area), and she also talked in visual language.  She would
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> When she chose colors that she thought looked good together, would those
> pairings match our cultural ideas of what colors went together?

Yes, her color parings pretty matched what most of us would select, but she
did not have any concept of different shades of the same color.  I think she
derived her perceptions -- and possibly her favorites -- from her extensive
reading and from talking to friends.

> > She would use the system of a "clock face" to know which foods were
> > at which position, but it was not pleasant to watch her eat because
> > of the way she had to push and "shovel" food around.

She attended a school for the blind as a youngster, and the taught her to
ask the person with her to ask what was at the 12:00 position, 3:00,
position, 6:00 position, and 9:00 position.  She also had a wristwatch with
a cover that would lift up so she could feel the various positions to tell
time.  She did the same thing with an alarm clock except that the cover was
always "off."

> You mean, pushing the food around her plate?

Yes, and sometimes some of it would spill over the edge or she would have to
use her other hand to help scoop up the food.  She had a lovely voice and
sang in a choir, but she was rather awkward physically -- again, probably
because she could not see things.

> It's interesting that she had the concept of something spatial like a
> clock face. But you can get that from touch, and a clock face is a small
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> visual concept didn't mean anything to him. He could only be sure which
> animal it was when he touched them.

I'm not familiar with that.  Do you know the title of the book or name of
the author?
--
MaryL

> Joyce
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 23 Nov 2007 23:56 GMT
> <bastXXXette@sonic.net> wrote in message

>> Did anyone read that story (true story) of the man who was blind from
>> a very young age, who had his sight restored in his 50s? His brain had
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>> visual concept didn't mean anything to him. He could only be sure which
>> animal it was when he touched them.

> I'm not familiar with that.  Do you know the title of the book or name of
> the author?

The story is called, "To See and Not See", and it is included in a
collection of essays called "An Anthropologist on Mars" by Oliver Sacks.
If you have not read Sacks, he is a *must-read* for anyone interested
in the functions of the brain and its effects on human perception. I
can't think of anyone who writes more interestingly or humanely about
neurological disability, from the subjective viewpoint of the person
who has it, than he does.

He is a neurologist, and most of his essays are about his patients. He
tries very hard to find out how life and perceptions feel to to the
patient. His descriptions are quite vivid, and really immerse the reader
in the patient's world. If the patient can talk and express him/herself,
then Sacks will include quotes from the patient. If not, he will offer
some speculations on what life must be like for that person, based on his
direct observations and on what he knows about the brain. This is far
more interesting (to me) than a more clinical approach.

I can't recommend this book, or his others (especially "The Man Who
Mistook His Wife For a Hat") enough - they are among my favorite books
ever. I'm currently reading his latest book, "Musicophilia", which is
about what parts of the brain are involved in our appreciation of
music, and also about what can go wrong when someone has a brain
injury - what different kinds of deficits people can have in their
ability to understand or appreciate music - and also about some people's
extraordinary musical abilities, some of which might be paired with major
disabilities (such as an autistic savant who is musically brilliant, etc).

The essay about the blind man who regained his sight in middle age was
made into a movie about 10 years ago, called "At First Sight". I thought
the movie was pretty sub-par, as compared to the story. Of course, they
made the main character about 30, rather than mid 50s, and it was mostly
about the love story between him and his girlfriend. (That relationship
was important in the written story, too, because it was the girlfriend
who pushed him to have the procedure that restored his sight. However,
things did not turn out as planned.)

Joyce
jmcquown - 24 Nov 2007 02:56 GMT
>  > I had a blind friend (still do, but she no longer
>  > lives in this area), and she also talked in visual language.  She
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> Did anyone read that story (true story) of the man who was blind from
> a very young age, who had his sight restored in his 50s?

My aunt went blind due to diabetes in the 1940s.  She had multiple surgeries
for cataracts throughout her life.  She was legally blind.  In the 1980's
she called me. She said she told the doctor she didn't want another surgery.
He said but wait, I can dohelp you.  Her friend talked her into it.  So she
had the surgery.  And she called me.  She said, "Jill, I can SEE!"  He did
laser surgery.  For the first time in 40 years she could see her image in a
mirror.  And she joked, "You're uncle always told me how beautiful I was...
now I know he was lying!"  LOLOL

She was such a great lady.  Sadly, she died of a heart attack 6 months
later.  So sad that she couldn't enjoy being able to see longer than that.
Stormmee - 25 Nov 2007 11:14 GMT
Chester recently rescued stormmee in a similar fashion, Lee
> I opened a closet door to replace the leaf of a table I had used for dinner
> awhile ago.  A short time later, I noticed Duffy sitting in front of the
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>
> MaryL
 
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