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John F. Eldredge - 18 Nov 2007 01:00 GMT
I have sleep apnea, and use a CPAP machine at night.  Lately, I have had
problems with my mouth drooping open during the night.  This lets out some
of the air pressure, and also leaves me with a very dry mouth in the
morning, due to air coming into my nose from the mask, then immediately
blowing out through my mouth.  So, about three weeks ago, the doctor
prescribed an elastic chinstrap for me to wear at night, to keep my mouth
closed.

Unfortunately, a couple of days after I got the chinstrap home, it
disappeared.  The obvious culprit is Cinders, since the elastic chinstrap
would make an attractive cat-toy.  I haven't had any luck in finding where
she put it, and finally bought a replacement chinstrap today.  This one
had to be paid for by me, not by my insurance, and cost $32 including tax.

I am going to have to make sure that I remember to put the chinstrap in a
drawer every time I take it off, and not leave it out where Cinders could
steal it.  $32 is a bit more than I had planned to spend for a cat toy.

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bobblespin - 18 Nov 2007 01:21 GMT
> I have sleep apnea, and use a CPAP machine at night.  Lately, I have
> had problems with my mouth drooping open during the night.  This lets
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> Cinders could steal it.  $32 is a bit more than I had planned to spend
> for a cat toy.

Gosh, can't you make one from a pair of pantyhose?

Bobble
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 18 Nov 2007 03:32 GMT
> Unfortunately, a couple of days after I got the chinstrap home, it
> disappeared.  The obvious culprit is Cinders, since the elastic chinstrap
> would make an attractive cat-toy.  I haven't had any luck in finding where
> she put it, and finally bought a replacement chinstrap today.  This one
> had to be paid for by me, not by my insurance, and cost $32 including tax.

Yeah, I guess "my cat hid the original strap" wouldn't fly at the
insurance company. :)

> I am going to have to make sure that I remember to put the chinstrap in a
> drawer every time I take it off, and not leave it out where Cinders could
> steal it.  $32 is a bit more than I had planned to spend for a cat toy.

It's a lot for a cat toy, but for DME, that's not bad at all. :)

There are many things that I absolutely have to put in the nightstand
drawer or I would probably never see them again. (Or they'd be all chewed
up or torn.)

Joyce
Jane - 18 Nov 2007 05:55 GMT
> I have sleep apnea, and use a CPAP machine at night.  Lately, I have had
> problems with my mouth drooping open during the night.  This lets out some
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> "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better
> than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

My CPAP cam e with all sorts of extras, including a chin strap. I
can't believe you didn't get one, too.  How cheap. It should have been
included.

Rita doesn't find any part of it interesting.  Fortunately, she's also
not frightened by it. Aren't the CPAPs wonderful, though?  I still
can't say that I love mine, but I do love the extra energy and better
sleep, even though my apnea is on the mild side.
On the other hand, there are still many nights when I wake up to find
that I've pulled off the mask and turned off the machine, in my sleep.
Twice I even found the whole thing disassembled and in the bathroom!
I think I'm sleep-walking again.  lol   [note to self: do not sleep
naked]

Jane
- owned and operated by the Princess Rita
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 18 Nov 2007 09:25 GMT
> Rita doesn't find any part of it interesting.  Fortunately, she's also
> not frightened by it. Aren't the CPAPs wonderful, though?  I still
> can't say that I love mine, but I do love the extra energy and better
> sleep, even though my apnea is on the mild side.

I'm just curious, what constitutes the "mild side" in your case? I
was diagnosed with sleep apnea, but it was so mild that it was almost
sub-clinical. I got a CPAP, and used it for almost a year, but I didn't
find that it made a big difference in my wakefulness.

> On the other hand, there are still many nights when I wake up to find
> that I've pulled off the mask and turned off the machine, in my sleep.
> Twice I even found the whole thing disassembled and in the bathroom!
> I think I'm sleep-walking again.  lol   [note to self: do not sleep
> naked]

Ha ha - but you know, if you're capable of disassembling a CPAP in your
sleep, then you're certainly capable of removing your clothing, I'm
sorry to say. So not sleeping naked may not be much help. :)

Joyce
John F. Eldredge - 18 Nov 2007 14:18 GMT
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:25:49 +0000, jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt wrote:

>  > Rita doesn't find any part of it interesting.  Fortunately, she's also
>  > not frightened by it. Aren't the CPAPs wonderful, though?  I still
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>
> Joyce

I heard a news item a couple of weeks ago about an English hotel where
sleep-walking is becoming more common, for some reason.  They have had to
start keeping several large towels at the front desk, to use for modesty
when a sleep-walking guest tries to check out of the hotel in the nude.

In my case, I believe the apnea was classed as severe.  In the sleep
study, I was averaging about 30 apnea episodes per hour.  In other words,
I was stopping breathing every couple of minutes.

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Jane - 19 Nov 2007 15:11 GMT
On Nov 18, 4:25 am, jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote:

>  > Rita doesn't find any part of it interesting.  Fortunately, she's also
>  > not frightened by it. Aren't the CPAPs wonderful, though?  I still
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> sub-clinical. I got a CPAP, and used it for almost a year, but I didn't
> find that it made a big difference in my wakefulness.

My 'sleep number' is only 10.  In fact, until someone told me that I
snore badly (another side effect of living alone - I had no idea!),
I had been telling my doctors that I sleep FINE. I wake up fine, I
feel fine....okay, so I'm a little tired during the day, but that's a
side
of effect of weighing as much as I do, right?
Oh no....with the CPAP now, I have almost manic energy and I feel like
someone half my age.  It's marvelous! My apartment is CLEAN.
The dishes are DONE.  I'm sewing a lot more.  My blood sugars are so
much more stable.

> Ha ha - but you know, if you're capable of disassembling a CPAP in your
> sleep, then you're certainly capable of removing your clothing, I'm
> sorry to say. So not sleeping naked may not be much help. :)

Oh durn.  Now you've just ruined my sleep  again....ROFL.

Jane
- owned and operated by the Princess Rita
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Nov 2007 20:24 GMT
> On Nov 18, 4:25 am, jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote:

>> I'm just curious, what constitutes the "mild side" in your case? I
>> was diagnosed with sleep apnea, but it was so mild that it was almost
>> sub-clinical.

> My 'sleep number' is only 10.  

Hmm, I'm not sure what you mean by "sleep number" - other than that
mattress company that uses "sleep numbers" to choose which type of
mattress you should have. :)

Do you mean that you had 10 "apnic events" (where you stop breathing
and your sleep gets disrupted) per hour? I had 8 per hour. The sleep
clinic told me that anything below 6 per hour is not treatable.

Joyce
Jane - 20 Nov 2007 13:30 GMT
On Nov 19, 3:24 pm, jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote:

>  > On Nov 18, 4:25 am, jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote:
>
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>
> Joyce

I don't know. All I know is that my 'sleep number' is 10 (not to be
confused with my Select Comfort mattress 'sleep number'), and that my
machine was set at 10.  It's just a coincidence that both of the
numbers are the same.  The sleep number can be as high as the 250s, so
10 is pretty low.  I could function without the machine at all, but
it's so much better with the machine.

Just for a funny....my mask is called Comfort Select.  My mattress is
called Select Comfort.  Hmm.....
Jane
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 20 Nov 2007 22:36 GMT
>  > On Nov 18, 4:25 am, jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote:
>
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> mattress company that uses "sleep numbers" to choose which type of
> mattress you should have. :)

Actually, it's the SAME mattress (they vary only in
style/cost, not type).  The "sleep number" refers to the
degree of firmness you find most comfortable, and can be
changed at any time with a push of a button on the gadget
that regulates it (also two people who share a bed can
adjust their respective sides for their personal comfort).
I got one a bit over a year ago, and find it well worth the
initial cost - I sleep better, and waken with far fewer
aches and pains, because my body is being supported to my
specific needs.  If I want more or less firmness on
occasion, I can change it - unlike most mattresses, you're
not stuck with whatever you chose in the shop when you
bought it.
jofirey - 21 Nov 2007 00:01 GMT
>>  > On Nov 18, 4:25 am, jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote:
>>
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> it - unlike most mattresses, you're not stuck with whatever you chose in
> the shop when you bought it.

Normally I just love ours.  We fill it to 100% during the day and it looks
nice, set it a little lower to watch TV, and then somewhat softer to sleep.

Normally, because our pump is shot and my side was at about 20 when it died.
Way to soft for me.  One of the kids likely reset it for a nap.

That has been the worst part.  Keeping the darn kids off our bed when they
take a nap.  It isn't like they don't have beds of their own, and sofa, etc.

Not looking good for the new pump to arrive today either.

Jo
NeeCee - 18 Nov 2007 11:35 GMT
wellllllllll...acatisacatisacat&thatsthat!
>I have sleep apnea, and use a CPAP machine at night.  Lately, I have had
> problems with my mouth drooping open during the night.  This lets out some
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> drawer every time I take it off, and not leave it out where Cinders could
> steal it.  $32 is a bit more than I had planned to spend for a cat toy.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Nov 2007 21:30 GMT
> I have sleep apnea, and use a CPAP machine at night.

This is totally OT, but I'm curious - does your machine make
a mechanical humming noise when in use?  Ever since I've
moved in here, I've been puzzled by such a noise which seems
to start up every night, just about when I'm going to bed.
My new apartment is nowhere near anything that would be
likely to account for it, and it's definitely NOT my own
refrigeratior, ceiling fans or air-conditioner, so it has me
thoroughly baffled.  (It isn't loud enough to be disturbing,
but unexplained sounds always bother me until I know what
they are.)  I live in a senior "independent living"
apartment, so my neighbor downstairs or next door might well
have the same problem you do - or require some other medical
equipment at night that uses a motor.
jmcquown - 18 Nov 2007 22:16 GMT
>> I have sleep apnea, and use a CPAP machine at night.
>
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> have the same problem you do - or require some other medical
> equipment at night that uses a motor.

CPAP machines aren't loud.  John uses one and the most I ever hear is a sort
of whooshing sound.  (They are filled with water to keep the nasal passages
hydrated.)

Jill
Jane - 19 Nov 2007 15:08 GMT
> >> I have sleep apnea, and use a CPAP machine at night.
>
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>
> Jill

The older machines are quite noisy, but it's white noise. However, if
you don't know what it is,
it could be weird.  Perhaps your neighbor has an older machine and/or
(as someone else
suggested), it's on a table that's vibrating.
Mine is so quiet that it doesn't even bother the Princess Rita.

Jane
jofirey - 18 Nov 2007 22:27 GMT
>> I have sleep apnea, and use a CPAP machine at night.
>
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> might well have the same problem you do - or require some other medical
> equipment at night that uses a motor.

You might ask your management about it.  Its possible someone is using such
a machine and that there could be something easy they could do to mitigate
the sound reaching you.  It could be on a piece of furniture that is
touching the wall, etc.

I have no idea if Charlie's makes any noise.

Jo
John F. Eldredge - 19 Nov 2007 00:44 GMT
>>> I have sleep apnea, and use a CPAP machine at night.
>>
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>
> Jo

If I have the mask on, the only sound is a slight hum.  If I take the mask
off, and leave the machine running, it is a bit noisier, as the air makes
a whoosh noise as it comes out of the mask.

At a guess, one of your neighbors has some type of machine, such as a CPAP
machine, that is causing some nearby object, such as a night table, to
vibrate.  Once you (or the management) figure out what machine is causing
the noise, it will probably be simple to reduce the noise.  Something as
simple as placing the machine on top of a foam pad or folded towel would
probably be enough to damp out the vibrations, just as long as any
ventilation slots aren't blocked.

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"Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better
than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 19 Nov 2007 18:57 GMT
>>>>I have sleep apnea, and use a CPAP machine at night.
>>>
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> probably be enough to damp out the vibrations, just as long as any
> ventilation slots aren't blocked.

Thanks.  It really isn't loud enough to complain about - in
fact, if I hadn't always had such super-keen hearing, I
probably wouldn't ever have noticed it.  (I've always heard
sounds most people don't even notice - always had to watch
my tendency to join in on conversations the speakers didn't
realize I could even HEAR - I just wondered what it could be.)
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 19 Nov 2007 18:53 GMT
>>>I have sleep apnea, and use a CPAP machine at night.
>>
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> the sound reaching you.  It could be on a piece of furniture that is
> touching the wall, etc.

OH, it's not loud enough to complain about - doesn't
interfere with my sleep or anything - I' m just curious
(probably learned it from my cats).
 
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