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Love is in the air.. Or I guess not

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Hans Schr?der - 15 Nov 2004 01:04 GMT
This is both on and off topic, but anyway...

Lately, a girl (no, woman) has more and more made it clear to me that she
thinks I am the answer to her dreams. On Friday she told me in pure words.
Of course I was flattered, because I like her very much, too, but... I just
don't think I can do it.

We have been talking a lot during the past months, and she has told me that
she doesn't like cats. Doesn't like cats? I thought that when she met my two
loved ones she would change her mind about that, but the final answer came
today.

Me and a friend were sitting at a local pub watching football (soccer) on TV
when she suddenly came in. "What?" she said, "Are you watching football?
You're so boring!" And then she went straight out again, without even
sitting down for five minutes.

I just can't figure out how to deal with sharing my life with her, having to
apologize for having cats, and to apologize for being interested in
football.

The cat part is the worst. It may sound strange to people not having cats,
but Teti and Tin?viel are so important friends to me, that I can't, in any
way, compromise on that...

Oh, another thing, one day last week she had been to the doctor and was
examined by a black man. That was almost too much for her to take. I tried
to talk to her about it, but it just came down to the fact that she doesn't
trust black people...

So, I hereby declare myself free to be picked by another cat loving,
football tolerant, non-racist girl (woman, as well)! Just drop me a line...
:-)

Hans

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Christina Websell - 15 Nov 2004 01:38 GMT
> This is both on and off topic, but anyway...
>
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>
> Hans

Forget her.  Find a cat-loving , non racist woman,  You might have to
compromise on the football.

Tweed
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 15 Nov 2004 02:32 GMT
> Forget her.  Find a cat-loving , non racist woman,  You might have to
> compromise on the football.

Well, he DID say "football tolerant"!  So long as she's not
expected to share his enthusiasm, it shouldn't be difficult.
(Just allow him to watch the games in peace, and don't plan
any big social events to conflict with an important match!)
Lois Reay - 15 Nov 2004 01:46 GMT
You've had a lucky escape!

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> This is both on and off topic, but anyway...
>
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>
> Hans
Bill Stock - 15 Nov 2004 01:51 GMT
> This is both on and off topic, but anyway...
>
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>
> Hans

Just make sure she's not a Liverpool supporter. :)
Karen Chuplis - 15 Nov 2004 02:04 GMT
> This is both on and off topic, but anyway...
>
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>
> Hans

Wow. You definitely have very very divergent priorities and understandings.
I think it would be good to just stay friends. I'm sure you will find
someone that likes cats. It seems a lot easier to find women that like cats
than men.
Adrian - 16 Nov 2004 12:33 GMT
> Wow. You definitely have very very divergent priorities and
> understandings. I think it would be good to just stay friends. I'm
> sure you will find someone that likes cats. It seems a lot easier to
> find women that like cats than men.

I thought a lot of women liked men. ;-)
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bonbon - 15 Nov 2004 02:28 GMT
<---------------------snip--------------------->.

>So, I hereby declare myself free to be picked by another cat loving,
>football tolerant, non-racist girl (woman, as well)! Just drop me a line...
>:-)

Smart move Hans.

You're way too good of a man for (by your description) that shallow
babe.  I feel sorry for any guy she latches on to.

-bonbon

>Hans
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 15 Nov 2004 02:28 GMT
Hans Schrøder wrote:

> Me and a friend were sitting at a local pub watching football (soccer) on TV
> when she suddenly came in. "What?" she said, "Are you watching football?
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> apologize for having cats, and to apologize for being interested in
> football.

*I* "can't figure out" why you'd even want to TRY!!!  I
don't think most women regard football (either American or
European style) with the same passion men do, but they learn
to live with it.  Not letting you enjoy a game on TV
(especially in company with a male friend at the pub)
without making snide comments doesn't bode well for the
future, IMO.

If people expect to enter into a permanent relationship
without making ANY concessions, they're better off alone.
Now if you insisted on dragging HER to football games when
she's not at all interested, that would be something else again.

> The cat part is the worst. It may sound strange to people not having cats,
> but Teti and Tinùviel are so important friends to me, that I can't, in any
> way, compromise on that...

  I think, so far as most of us are concerned, "love me,
love my cat(s)" goes without saying.  As well ask a mother
to give up her children (and I doubt any normal mother would
even consider THAT).

> Oh, another thing, one day last week she had been to the doctor and was
> examined by a black man. That was almost too much for her to take. I tried
> to talk to her about it, but it just came down to the fact that she doesn't
> trust black people...

Sounds like she has a war on with the world.  Even if she's
a spectacular beauty, and your "dream girl", do you really
need someone with so many "atttudes"?

> So, I hereby declare myself free to be picked by another cat loving,
> football tolerant, non-racist girl (woman, as well)! Just drop me a line...
> :-)

Wise decision!  (I'd consider it, but I'm probably at least
old enough to be your grandmother, so you'll have to look
elsewhere.) ;-)
Dan M - 15 Nov 2004 02:42 GMT
> So, I hereby declare myself free to be picked by another cat loving,
> football tolerant, non-racist girl (woman, as well)! Just drop me a line...
> :-)
>
> Hans

Well, Hans, it can be a painful experience (speaking from experience
here), but in the long run it's far better to find out now than a few
years down the line. I'm approaching 50, and didn't meet Nancy until
just a very few years ago. We've been married almost 5 years and I can
tell you that finding the right (cat-loving, of course) woman is
absolutely worth the wait!

Dan
Sherry - 15 Nov 2004 02:49 GMT
>So, I hereby declare myself free to be picked by another cat loving,
>football tolerant, non-racist girl (woman, as well)! Just drop me a line...
>:-)
>
>Hans

Sorry to be blunt, but your girlfriend sounds, well, selfish, intolerant and
just plain ... icky. But then I've been married for 31 years and have forgotten
how to "date" so I'm probably the worst person in the world to give dating
advice.
Sherry
Seanette Blaylock - 15 Nov 2004 02:58 GMT
"Hans Schrøder" <han-schr@online.no> had some very interesting things
to say about Love is in the air.. Or I guess not:

>We have been talking a lot during the past months, and she has told me that
>she doesn't like cats. Doesn't like cats? I thought that when she met my two
>loved ones she would change her mind about that, but the final answer came
>today.

Strike one: you like cats and she doesn't.

>Me and a friend were sitting at a local pub watching football (soccer) on TV
>when she suddenly came in. "What?" she said, "Are you watching football?
>You're so boring!" And then she went straight out again, without even
>sitting down for five minutes.

Strike two: she insults you in public, in front of your friends.

>The cat part is the worst. It may sound strange to people not having cats,
>but Teti and Tinùviel are so important friends to me, that I can't, in any
>way, compromise on that...

Why should you? They had you before she came along, and IMO they treat
you better.

>Oh, another thing, one day last week she had been to the doctor and was
>examined by a black man. That was almost too much for her to take. I tried
>to talk to her about it, but it just came down to the fact that she doesn't
>trust black people...

Strike three (and it's a biggie!): she's a bigot.

Trust me, you CAN do MUCH better than this b*tch.

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Victor Martinez - 15 Nov 2004 03:33 GMT
Hans Schrøder wrote:
> So, I hereby declare myself free to be picked by another cat loving,
> football tolerant, non-racist girl (woman, as well)! Just drop me a line...

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 15 Nov 2004 06:46 GMT
"Hans Schrder" <han-schr@online.no> wrote:

> So, I hereby declare myself free to be picked by another cat loving,
> football tolerant, non-racist girl (woman, as well)!

Hans, you're well rid of her. If she's this annoying now, I'm sure you
would hate her after living with her a while! These kinds of differences
between people usually get worse over time, not better. Besides, she
sounds immature and bigotted to me. I'm sure there's someone out there
who's much better for you. (Hey, why not volunteer at an animal shelter?
At least you would know that any woman you met there would be an animal
lover!)

Joyce
Jo Firey - 15 Nov 2004 07:26 GMT
> This is both on and off topic, but anyway...
>
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>
> Hans

Anyone who is attached to cats and football is unlikely to be happy in a
partnership with someone who dislikes both.

As far as the black doctor goes, give her the benefit of the doubt.  I've
had doctors from a virtual united nations of cultural backgrounds.  And
aside from some communication problems it been pretty much fine.  With the
exception of one black doctor who worked for the medical group I use
briefly.  He was a good doctor.  Hit a difficult diagnosis on the head first
try.  But he was also an arrogant disagreeable a.shole.  Who never listened
to patients.  I'd trust him with my life if I were comatose, but if I were
conscious and he were treating me the stress would likely cause a stroke.

Brilliant scientific mind.  No people skills whatsoever.  And he wasn't even
a surgeon.

Jo
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 15 Nov 2004 09:21 GMT
>As far as the black doctor goes, give her the benefit of the doubt.  I've
>had doctors from a virtual united nations of cultural backgrounds.  And
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>
>Jo

I wouldn't give her the benefit of the doubt as explained by Hans. In his post
he didn't say the girl freaked out because there were communication problems or
that the doc was an arrogant fool, just that he was black. That's racism -
period. Communication problems occur in all sorts of situations, and arrogance
can appear in all genders, races, religions, cultures etc. But I think that to
object to being examined by any doc just on grounds of skin colour of said doc
is not acceptable IMO.

Just my £0.02 :-)

Cheers, helen s

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Tanada - 20 Nov 2004 18:12 GMT
> Just my £0.02 :-)
>
> Cheers, helen s

Would you call that "just my 2 pence?"  Seriously, I'm curious about the
British monetary system.  I've never really been able to understand it.
 How many pence in a half crown, or a crown, how much is a bob, and so
forth?  I can spend money in any language, I just don't understand it.

Pam S. ignorant
Pat - 20 Nov 2004 19:43 GMT
> I'm curious about the
> British monetary system.  I've never really been able to understand it.
>   How many pence in a half crown, or a crown, how much is a bob, and so
> forth?  I can spend money in any language, I just don't understand it.

I know that a quid is a pound, but that's all I know. I wonder what a
shilling is...
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 20 Nov 2004 21:22 GMT
>Would you call that "just my 2 pence?"  

Yup - or, "Just my two penn'orth."

>Seriously, I'm curious about the
>British monetary system.  I've never really been able to understand it.
>  How many pence in a half crown, or a crown, how much is a bob, and so
>forth?  I can spend money in any language, I just don't understand it.
>
>Pam S. ignorant

Well, pre-decimalisation days, we had pounds(£), shillings(s) and pence(d).
There were 240 pence (pennies) to one pound. A shilling was made up of 12
pennies, so there were 20 shillings to the pound. A bob was a shilling (written
as 1s or 1/-). Half-a-crown as 2shillings and sixpence (written as 2/6d or 2s
6d), hence a crown was 5 shillings (written as 5s or 5/-) Of course, we also
had guineas... a guinea was £1 and 1 shilling, or, 21shillings, or 21/-

Then we went decimal... so we got rid of shillings. We now have pounds (£) and
pence (p). There are 100 pennies in a pound.

So... 1d = 2.4p and 1/- (or 1s) = 5p

I was a schoolkid when we went decimal over here and had great fun, as we kids
found it no hassle at all, but I remember adult relatives having a heck of a
time doing conversions... I think that experience is why *now* have little
problem flitting between metric & imperial measurements.

Cheers, helen s

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Exocat - 20 Nov 2004 21:28 GMT
The phrase would be spoken as "just my tuppenceworth" or possibly
"just my two-pennyworth" depending on region.

I'm afraid nowadays it's pretty boring: 100 pence = 1 pound.

But in the old days (until February 1971) our coinage was like this:

Farthing (a quarter of a penny)
Halfpenny ((pronounced haypney) half a penny)
Penny (a two-hundred-and-fortieth of a pound)
Threepence ((pronounded thruppence) three pennies, came as an 8-sided
coin)
Sixpence ((or Tanner) six pennies, the first silver-coloured coin)
Shilling ((or Bob) twelve pennies, twentieth of a pound)
Florin ((2 shillings) ie twenty-four pennies or tenth of a pound)
Half-Crown ((2.5 shillings, or "2 bob and a tanner") an eighth of a
pound)
Crown ((5 shillings, or "5 bob") a quarter of a pound) [dropped in the
50's]
Ten Shillings ((our first paper denomination) half a pound
The Pound Sterling (A quid, or a Nicker)
The Guinea ((traditionally gold) one pound and one shilling
The Sovereign ((always solid gold) varies with the bullion price, say
40 poundish)

Hope that helps :-)

Thanks for reminding me what wonderful complicated old times I lived
in!

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> Would you call that "just my 2 pence?"  Seriously, I'm curious about
> the British monetary system.  I've never really been able to
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>
> Pam S. ignorant
Tanada - 21 Nov 2004 02:20 GMT
> The phrase would be spoken as "just my tuppenceworth" or possibly
> "just my two-pennyworth" depending on region.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Hope that helps :-)

If you lived in complicated times, then I guess most of us have as well.
 Thank you both (Helen and Gordon) for the explainations.  I think I'd
still have a problem figuring it all out if I had to do the old system.
 But it's more interesting and varied than the US system using base ten.

Pam S.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 21 Nov 2004 21:29 GMT
> If you lived in complicated times, then I guess most of us have as well.
>  Thank you both (Helen and Gordon) for the explainations.  I think I'd
> still have a problem figuring it all out if I had to do the old system.
>  But it's more interesting and varied than the US system using base ten.

As does the "metric" system.  I've often wondered, though -
it's obvious that counting by base ten arose from the fact
that humans have ten fingers, but how did base twelve arise?
 Was there a time in pre-history when people in Britain had
six fingers on each hand? (And when it comes to linear
measure, there are twelve inches to a foot.)
Christina Websell - 21 Nov 2004 23:28 GMT
>> If you lived in complicated times, then I guess most of us have as well.
>> Thank you both (Helen and Gordon) for the explainations.  I think I'd
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> when people in Britain had six fingers on each hand? (And when it comes to
> linear measure, there are twelve inches to a foot.)

I still use linear measure.  I was taught it at school, along with pounds,
shillings and pence.  I can invisage exactly something that is a foot, three
feet, six feet or an inch long or wide.  Tell me in cms and I'm lost.
I suspect my grandmother was right when she said decimal currency came in to
raise the price of everything. by x 2.
I can still calculate in ?sd too.  When I was quite a little girl, I was
very keen on horse-riding, and I dearly wanted to have a pair of jodhpurs,
outside the scope of my mom's budget at 5 guineas.  Huge price.  I saved up
my pocket money, half a crown a week, 8 to a pound, so I needed 40 odd weeks
of saving.  I set out to do it.  I got half way there when my godfather
matched what I'd saved.  He never indicated that he would.  He's been dead
for years, but I'll never forget that he did that and I got my special
"horse-riding trousers."  I went on eventually to get my own horse.  It
wasn't a flash in the pan interest.  I couldn't afford one that was broken
in so I got a two year old and broke her in myself.  Ouch, ouch and ouch. We
parted company quite a number of times.  Did it though ;-))  I was 18.
Just a few OT childhood memories, hope you all don't mind.  I was a country
child.

Tweed
O J - 22 Nov 2004 05:07 GMT
Tweed wrote:

---------------------<snip>----------------------
>Just a few OT childhood memories, hope you all don't mind.  I was a country
>child.

What a lovely reminiscence.  Thanks.  It's nice to hear about a child
so determined to persevere as you obviously were.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Adrian - 22 Nov 2004 09:53 GMT
> The phrase would be spoken as "just my tuppenceworth" or possibly
> "just my two-pennyworth" depending on region.
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> Gordon & the TT

I wonder if we'll ever have to get used to the Euro? ;-)
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Marina - 22 Nov 2004 18:48 GMT
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>>Thanks for reminding me what wonderful complicated old times I lived
>>in!
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>
> I wonder if we'll ever have to get used to the Euro? ;-)

We've had it for nearly three years, but I still convert everything to
Marks.

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 22 Nov 2004 20:34 GMT
>I wonder if we'll ever have to get used to the Euro? ;-)

I do hope so!

Cheers, helen s
(confirmed Europhile)

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Adrian - 24 Nov 2004 15:41 GMT
>> I wonder if we'll ever have to get used to the Euro? ;-)
>
> I do hope so!
>
> Cheers, helen s
> (confirmed Europhile)

It will save Frank from having to change money when he teleports over to
Waffles. ;-) 1 Euro approx 14 shillings. ;-)
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Adrian - 21 Nov 2004 10:56 GMT
>> Just my ?0.02 :-)
>>
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>
> Pam S. ignorant

The crown, half crown and bob (shilling) were pre-decimal coins, they
ceased in 1971. Now it's just 100 pennies to the pound. I still convert
prices to the old currency just to tease my mother, if she buys
something for 50p I say gosh, that's 10 shillings in real money.
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 15 Nov 2004 07:37 GMT
>So, I hereby declare myself free to be picked by another cat loving,
>football tolerant, non-racist girl (woman, as well)! Just drop me a line...
>:-)
>
>Hans

Sensible man. Whilst I can understand the dislike of football ... I'm a cycling
fan myself ;-) The dislike of cats is unforgiveable, as is the racism.

Get yourself a proper woman!

Cheers, helen s

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Marina - 16 Nov 2004 18:39 GMT
>>So, I hereby declare myself free to be picked by another cat loving,
>>football tolerant, non-racist girl (woman, as well)! Just drop me a line...
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>
> Sensible man. Whilst I can understand the dislike of football ...

Wait a minute, Helen, there's a lot for women to look at in a football
match. ;o)

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 17 Nov 2004 00:04 GMT
> Wait a minute, Helen, there's a lot for women to look at in a football
> match. ;o)

I often forget that "football", in any place except the USA, refers to
that game where a bunch of guys run around kicking a round ball. Instead,
throughout this thread, I've been imagining the *American* game of football,
which is quite different. And believe me, Marina, there is nothing at all
to look at in an American football game - it's all shoulder pads and helmets.

I'm sure I could tolerate a partner who watched American football, but I
would find it extremely boring myself, and it would just have to be one of
those things we did separately. (And the TV would have to be in a room with
a closing door!) What the rest of the world calls football (and we call
soccer) is something that I, not generally a sports fan, might actually be
convinced to watch if I lived with a fan.

Joyce - whose "housemates" enjoy the same tv programming I do: shows about
cats!
Jeanette - 15 Nov 2004 09:32 GMT
> This is both on and off topic, but anyway...
>
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>
> Hans

I think you've made the right decision Hans. :D
Pat - 15 Nov 2004 15:53 GMT
Hans,

I can abide football just don't expect me to stand and yell "Go team!" or
anything like that. As to racism, it's taboo in my book.

I am about 50% Finn and am often told I look 20 years younger than my actual
age. I feel it, too. Been alone last 5 years except for cats.

There's always travel and relocation....

Pat
bonbon - 16 Nov 2004 16:46 GMT
>Hans,
>
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>
>Pat

Ooooooo...........love IS in the air!

GO PAT!

-bonbon
Christina Websell - 16 Nov 2004 21:28 GMT
>>Hans,
>>
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>
> -bonbon

WOW!  Yes, but remember, Pat, he can be a bit grumpy ;-)
Don't burn any boats.

Tweed
Adrian - 16 Nov 2004 12:30 GMT
> So, I hereby declare myself free to be picked by another cat loving,
> football tolerant, non-racist girl (woman, as well)! Just drop me a
> line... :-)
>
> Hans

Hans you're wll rid of her. Anyone who doesn't like cats and is also a
racist, doesn't deserve you.
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Jean Hobbs - 29 Nov 2004 10:12 GMT
I'll be in that Hans, but I must tell you I'll soon be 72 interested?
LOL!! I'm only joking Hans dont run to the backwoods yet.
Still laughing   Jean.P.

> This is both on and off topic, but anyway...
>
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> Hans Schr?der
> han-schr@online.no
 
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