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GaDragonfly - 09 Nov 2007 03:46 GMT
You won't win and you'll only end up feeling badly about losing your
temper and calling him a fish breathed ball of fur. Or in my case
"FINE, If you don't want your BGC checked I won't do it. You're the
one with diarrhea, you're the one who is diabetic it's your health I'm
concerned about you fish-breath ball of fur." At which point I put
away the BGC monitoring equipment and stomped into the other room to
clean the stinky litterbox. I did give in and wiped his butt to make
sure he was clean. Now that both of us have calmed down some I'm going
to try again, because I really don't want him to go hypo due to
diarrhea. It would go better if the ears that I have to prick weren't
so near his mouth. Hobbes will bite when he gets mad enough and I made
him mad enough earlier. But his ears wouldn't bleed and then when one
finally began to bleed he growled at me and shook his head. Does
anybody have any experience with "World's Best Cat Litter"? That is
the only new variable brought into the house since this past weekend.
I love the litter but if it could possibly cause diarrhea I'll have to
discontinue using it.

Julie - grabbing the lancet and the BGC monitor and giving it another
try.
Granby - 09 Nov 2007 03:56 GMT
Cats and male humans have a lot in common when it comes to this diabetic
thing.  I can rmember yelling Ok, so don't let me take your BC, when you
fall out of your wheelchair, I will call and ambulance and let the doctor do
it.  He hated stabbing his fingers like cats hat their ears.  Ahh well, you
godda what ya godda do--right!
> You won't win and you'll only end up feeling badly about losing your
> temper and calling him a fish breathed ball of fur. Or in my case
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Julie - grabbing the lancet and the BGC monitor and giving it another
> try.
Karen - 10 Nov 2007 05:01 GMT
> Cats and male humans have a lot in common when it comes to this
> diabetic thing.  I can rmember yelling Ok, so don't let me take your
> BC, when you fall out of your wheelchair, I will call and ambulance and
> let the doctor do it.  He hated stabbing his fingers like cats hat
> their ears.  Ahh well, you godda what ya godda do--right!

That's pretty funny. We have a video on youtube that a felllow made
that is really good to learn from, but a gal who is just learning to
test came on the diabetes board the other day and said it needs a
warning "The cat in this video is a professional. Do not expect this
kind of cooperation from your cat.". We laughed. It really usually gets
a lot better. I must admit Pearl was generally pretty good (much to my
eternal surprise) from the beginning, but once we got it down, she
became really great, mostly coming to be tested on her own if I just
stand by the tree getting stuff ready. She has been a real trouper
about all her meds. I would NEVER have guessed this would be this way
considering her snarky nature.
Marina - 10 Nov 2007 05:46 GMT
> That's pretty funny. We have a video on youtube that a felllow made that
> is really good to learn from, but a gal who is just learning to test
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> would NEVER have guessed this would be this way considering her snarky
> nature.

She's really amazing. That's funny about the video. I'm sure I could
never get Caliban to cooperate, so I'm very happy that his diet was so
successful (from 6.4 kg/14 lbs in April to 4.99/11 in October).

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Karen - 09 Nov 2007 04:43 GMT
> You won't win and you'll only end up feeling badly about losing your
> temper and calling him a fish breathed ball of fur. Or in my case
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Julie - grabbing the lancet and the BGC monitor and giving it another
> try.

Julie, did you get a number? Pearl gets diarrhea when she is high.
Lately I am getting pretty big swings. Wierd. I even let her have dry
food tonight because she did have a rather low preshot and I didn't
want her sinking too fast. A little while ago she followed me in the
kitchen and got up in her tree (she is pretty smart about that. She
knows if she needs a test usually) and it was 87! With dry food on
board!  Most the time she doesn't give me any grief (except having her
ear held). A good trick for getting blood is to warm the ear first.
Some cats really like it. Most people use a sock with rice in the toe
and tied off. They heat it in the microwave for a few seconds till it
is quite warm and then hold it against the ear for a good 20 seconds.
Some cats really like it. I only had to do that for about 3 weeks and
then her ear learned to bleed on its own. I can only do the one ear
most of the time. She really wants NOTHING to do with having her left
ear poked unless she is sleepy.

The only thing I can figure with the litter is if he is eating it, it
is a carb, so it might make him higher than normal.
GaDragonfly - 09 Nov 2007 04:59 GMT
> > You won't win and you'll only end up feeling badly about losing your
> > temper and calling him a fish breathed ball of fur. Or in my case
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> The only thing I can figure with the litter is if he is eating it, it
> is a carb, so it might make him higher than normal.

I'm about to go try again. I'll find a sock and try the rice trick.
I"ll let you know in 5 minutes. Can screwy numbers cause him to have
diarrhea? I guess if they upset his system they might. My main concern
was that he might swing too low because he didn't have anything
staying in his system. I'll check back in about 5 minute.

Julie
Karen - 09 Nov 2007 05:00 GMT
>>> You won't win and you'll only end up feeling badly about losing your
>>> temper and calling him a fish breathed ball of fur. Or in my case
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
> Julie

Pearl regularly had diarreha before she got on insulin, so I think it
can. I don't think it would cause him to hypo, but it sure can
dehydrate.
Marina - 09 Nov 2007 06:22 GMT
> I'm about to go try again. I'll find a sock and try the rice trick.
> I"ll let you know in 5 minutes. Can screwy numbers cause him to have
> diarrhea? I guess if they upset his system they might. My main concern
> was that he might swing too low because he didn't have anything
> staying in his system. I'll check back in about 5 minute.

Well, high BG doesn't do that to me, but I don't know about cats. Hope
you can get Hobbes sorted and tested soon.

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GaDragonfly - 09 Nov 2007 05:14 GMT
> > You won't win and you'll only end up feeling badly about losing your
> > temper and calling him a fish breathed ball of fur. Or in my case
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> The only thing I can figure with the litter is if he is eating it, it
> is a carb, so it might make him higher than normal.

The warm rice sock helped a lot! Having him on the cat tree rather
than the floor also helped. And of course, both of us calmed down made
it easier.  He's at 216, about 5 hours after insulin which is about
the time he normally peaks. I  don't think I have to worry. I'll take
a curve this weekend to see how high he's going and hopefully the
diarrhea is a temporary thing. Thanks for your advice.

Julie
Karen - 09 Nov 2007 05:16 GMT
>>> You won't win and you'll only end up feeling badly about losing your
>>> temper and calling him a fish breathed ball of fur. Or in my case
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>
> Julie

Yeah! It can be frustrating at first. Have you seen Pearl's blog? Cat
trees are great assistants.
GaDragonfly - 09 Nov 2007 05:28 GMT
> >>> You won't win and you'll only end up feeling badly about losing your
> >>> temper and calling him a fish breathed ball of fur. Or in my case
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> Yeah! It can be frustrating at first. Have you seen Pearl's blog? Cat
> trees are great assistants.

I have, on a Saturday when I'm trying to get a curve, chased him
throughout the house every two hours. The first one, pre-breakfast is
pretty easy. He's in the kitchen, he wants food, he'll put up with
anything.  Two hours later he's sleeping it off and he doesn't want me
waking him up and sticking him.  Two more hours later and his ear is
sore, don't squeeze it any more and certainly don't prick it! At this
point he's almost reached his peak. The next time I test it will
depend on whether it has gone down or started climbing back up
slightly so that I know he's not going any lower and I give him a
break until it is time for dinner and insulin again and I check to see
how high he goes.  Personally, I don't care how fast he gets there I
just want to now how high. I have seen Pearl's blog. She is such a
good girl to get on the cat tree and wait for her stick and treats.
Unfortunately, in the year I've been home testing I've never gotten
Hobbes used to the idea. <sigh> On the positive side, Sam doesn't
fight his Aerokat at all so I guess it all evens out :D

Julie
Monique Y. Mudama - 09 Nov 2007 18:21 GMT
> The warm rice sock helped a lot! Having him on the cat tree rather
> than the floor also helped. And of course, both of us calmed down
> made it easier.  He's at 216, about 5 hours after insulin which is
> about the time he normally peaks. I  don't think I have to worry.
> I'll take a curve this weekend to see how high he's going and
> hopefully the diarrhea is a temporary thing. Thanks for your advice.

So glad you guys worked it out and you were able to poke him.

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Ginger-lyn - 12 Nov 2007 18:28 GMT
> You won't win and you'll only end up feeling badly about losing your
> temper and calling him a fish breathed ball of fur. Or in my case
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Julie - grabbing the lancet and the BGC monitor and giving it another
> try.

Ouch!  I can't even imagine trying to deal with all of that.  I've been
very lucky (cross fingers) in terms of never having a diabetic cat (out
of 18 total).  Cleaning butts, however, is a semi-regular occupation
here, and just the most fun I can imagine ever having - lol.

Purrs that everyone has calmed down and you're able to treat the little
bugger.

Ginger-lyn

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Matthew - 12 Nov 2007 18:50 GMT
Being a Diabetic myself I know how furball feels.  I don't think the litter
would be causing it.

I went to a medical expo they had here in Orlando, Florida.  They have
several new items coming out for diabetics.  One is a chip implanted under
the skin to check your blood sugar.  A device which you press to the skin
and it uses something like sound waves to measure your blood sugar.  There
is also a "no pierce" unit that uses something similar to star trek
technology  where it use a vacuum to pull up the skin and draw the blood.
There is no pain no sensitivity build up that you get by having to stick you
fingers all the time.

I was talking to the reps and told them about cats and diabetes.  They said
their machines could be used on them since most diabetic equipment can be
used on the four legs.  Talking to all of them I was shocked to find out
that the guy who developed the sound wave one did so due to his mother and
her diabetic cat.  Both of them where the most stubborn creatures alive to
get blood out of.  The devices are supposed to be on the market very soon
and will be reasonable priced if not covered by insurance

So of the tech expo  scare the heck out of me.  All the new stuff being
developed is mind boggling

> You won't win and you'll only end up feeling badly about losing your
> temper and calling him a fish breathed ball of fur. Or in my case
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Julie - grabbing the lancet and the BGC monitor and giving it another
> try.
Karen - 13 Nov 2007 02:32 GMT
> Being a Diabetic myself I know how furball feels.  I don't think the
> litter would be causing it.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> So of the tech expo  scare the heck out of me.  All the new stuff being
> developed is mind boggling

Interesting. The vacuum thing sounds painful to me! But maybe it is
really slight.
Matthew - 13 Nov 2007 03:42 GMT
>> Being a Diabetic myself I know how furball feels.  I don't think the
>> litter would be causing it.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Interesting. The vacuum thing sounds painful to me! But maybe it is really
> slight.

Did you ever see star trek  when they put the  hype spray instrument to the
neck  you heard a hissing sound and that was it.  A company out of Atlanta
Georgia  developed it for the military.  It uses hundreds of hair thick
needles to inject the site it is like a acupuncture needle going in you know
it is there but it does not hurt.  The rep showed where if the doctors wants
to give 1.3 cc it is not a guess any more it is digital precise.
polonca12000 - 12 Nov 2007 22:36 GMT
> You won't win and you'll only end up feeling badly about losing your
> temper and calling him a fish breathed ball of fur. Or in my case
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Julie - grabbing the lancet and the BGC monitor and giving it another
> try.

Lots of purrs for Hobbes and hugs for you, Julie,
Polonca and Soncek
 
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