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Ellen Degeneres is Still Talking

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jmcquown - 23 Oct 2007 17:52 GMT
I caught the last 30 minutes of her show this morning.  She isn't
*specifically* mentioning the dog she rehomed.  But she had representatives
of the ASPCA on discussing the many and varied contracts shelters and rescue
organizations have.  I think most people here would agree a pet adoption
agency would like to know and follow up to make sure the pet was placed in a
good home.  Makes perfect sense.

But she did hint, rather broadly, just taking the dog away from that family
was not the right action.  And her guests from the ASPCA agreed. They kept
stressing they would want to know about the rehoming simply to ensure the
welfare of the animal.  One notable statement was something like what if
they'd never had a puppy before and the dog was eating their shoes?  They
wouldn't know what to do, but we'd be there to offer a support system.  They
definitely didn't agree it was a good idea to take the dog from the home
where she'd placed it.  It wasn't that she just didn't like the dog.  He
simply wasn't a good fit in her household.  She didn't turn the dog out into
the street, fer cryin out loud!

Jill
CatNipped - 23 Oct 2007 18:44 GMT
>I caught the last 30 minutes of her show this morning.  She isn't
> *specifically* mentioning the dog she rehomed.  But she had
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> Jill

The story I read in the Houston Chronicle said that the hair dresser was
given *several* chances to just come in and sign the adoption contract and
she refused every time.  If I were the adoption agency I'd have to think
that if she couldn't be bothered to come in to sign the paperwork she
probably couldn't be bothered to take the dog to a vet as needed either.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Sherry - 23 Oct 2007 21:12 GMT
> I caught the last 30 minutes of her show this morning.  She isn't
> *specifically* mentioning the dog she rehomed.  But she had representatives
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> Jill

Of course it wasn't a good idea for Ellen to haul off on her own and
re-home the dog. If she'd just *cooperated* with the shelter, and the
adoptors could have been bothered to go sign adoption papers (which
they would not)....all would have been well. At least she's trying to
do some damage control.
The previous TV performance of hers was a crappy thing to do to
the shelter, given the "facts" that came to light afterwards.

Sherry
jmcquown - 23 Oct 2007 23:56 GMT
>> I caught the last 30 minutes of her show this morning.  She isn't
>> *specifically* mentioning the dog she rehomed.  But she had
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>
> Sherry

I didn't see the original show(s) or read the story.  Heard about it here.
I wasn't aware the family she gave the dog to refused to sign the adoption
papers.  That sheds a whole new light on everything.  Thanks for clarifying
it (everyone).

Jill
Granby - 24 Oct 2007 01:43 GMT
If age has taught me nothing it is to beware of everything you "hear" or
"read" on the web.  Those who knew Ellen did wrong and as she admitted doing
so, that left no doubt, will now as they do on "public" people will turn on
her.  I can honestly say I did not read every word on some of the things you
sign up for on the net.  "agreements" they are called.  The best thing for
the dog, the shelter and all is for it all to stop.  The law is the law and,
in the end that will speak the ending...I hope.
>>> I caught the last 30 minutes of her show this morning.  She isn't
>>> *specifically* mentioning the dog she rehomed.  But she had
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>
> Jill
hopitus - 24 Oct 2007 19:18 GMT
> If age has taught me nothing it is to beware of everything you "hear" or
> "read" on the web.  Those who knew Ellen did wrong and as she admitted doing
> so, that left no doubt, will now as they do on "public" people will turn on
> her.  I can honestly say I did not read every word on some of the things you
> sign up for on the net.  "agreements" they are called.  The best thing for
> the dog, the shelter and all is for it all to stop.  The law is the law and,

LOL I wouldn't call DeG a "creepy person" though anyone's opinion is
valuable....but I did watch the original video
of her tv dramatics and I agree w/Granby re rules of pet adoption
shelters....I have witnessed (usually w/happy endings)
SO MANY real instances of pets being abandoned by their "loving" (?)
owners *inside dwellings* w/no food or water; I myself
have one sweet-faced black girl (she was spayed by former owner) who
was turned outside apt. house to fend for herself when
bimbo-girl owner moved away..luckily this was in Bay Area CA not
around here so she didn't freeze to death before I eventually
took her after a relative who knew someone else at the complex saw her
repeatedly outside and learned her story from other
residents there....Britney's got a long way to go before she outdoes
the wierd actions of some of us "non-celebrities", huh?
AFAIC - two tv divas I can't knock their know-how re making $$$ -
they[re both loaded - and what either one of them thinks
about anything: Oprah telling us what to read, LOL = same reaction
from me as DeG's public hysterics re a goof she made,
and I'm not talking about the fact she goes for chicks, even the wacko
one Heche - *Y-a-w-n*. I have more interest in YOUR
opinions, posters of rpca....they mean much more to me and I learn
useful stuff here.

> >>> I caught the last 30 minutes of her show this morning.  She isn't
> >>> *specifically* mentioning the dog she rehomed.  But she had
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Granby - 24 Oct 2007 23:39 GMT
Lets see, I do like Oprah's book club, I like to read. What gender Ellen
prefers is between herself and God and if whoreing yourself and drugging
yourself is the way to make money, no thanks.  I still say those young girls
are only able to make the big bucks because people support them. I hear
people laughing about their antics but if theris own behaved like that it
would be a different storey.  They will probably all be dead before they are
forty.
>> If age has taught me nothing it is to beware of everything you "hear" or
>> "read" on the web.  Those who knew Ellen did wrong and as she admitted
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Outsider - 23 Oct 2007 22:53 GMT
> I caught the last 30 minutes of her show this morning.  She isn't
> *specifically* mentioning the dog she rehomed.  But she had
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>
> Jill

Well they are both wrong.  There was a very simple legal course Ellen
could have taken if she was not a spoiled arrogant self important b*.  
Perhaps after the dog was with the family one would have wanted a
different outcome than "tearing the dog away" but ELLEN caused the
problem NOT the shelter.  And the shelter unlike the ASPCA genius had a
legal problem to deal with which was not letting the spoiled brat create
a dangerous precedent.  Read what really went on and don't let Ellen on
her TV show control your information.  This is one creepy person as far
as I can see.
MaryL - 23 Oct 2007 23:41 GMT
>> I caught the last 30 minutes of her show this morning.  She isn't
>> *specifically* mentioning the dog she rehomed.  But she had
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> her TV show control your information.  This is one creepy person as far
> as I can see.

Agreed!  There are very good reasons why rescue groups and shelters require
people to sign contracts to return a pet if they cannot care for it.  If the
spoiled Ellens of the world are permitted to ignore contracts or feign
ignorance, then what is to prevent others from exercising a similar option.
And with no one in authority to inspect these homes or check references,
what is to prevent others from making the worst possible decisions with
regard to placement.  Ellen's hairdresser could have gone to the agency and
filed an application to adopt.  I am *very* suspicious of what happened
here.  I mentioned elsewhere that I signed a similar contract when I adopted
Duffy.  That is standard practice, and I find it difficult to believe that a
person of Ellen's intelligence would fail to notice what she was signing.
And if that did happen, then the whole thing is HER fault, not the people
who were running the shelter and trying to find homes for unwanted cats and
dogs.

MaryL
 
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