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Victor Martinez - 13 Nov 2004 01:06 GMT
I should have known it wasn't normal. This morning I saw a racoon
hanging out on our back deck, looked like he was napping. I figured he
was just tired and dropped for a nap. I didn't see him when I left for
work, so I assumed he'd gone home. When I got home a little while ago,
Tom said we had a busy day tomorrow, I asked why? He said, "we have to
get a dead racoon out from under the deck"... :(
I just went to check, and there it is, a very large, very dead racoon. I
have no idea how we're going to get it out of there...

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Bill Stock - 13 Nov 2004 02:40 GMT
> I should have known it wasn't normal. This morning I saw a racoon
> hanging out on our back deck, looked like he was napping. I figured he
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> I just went to check, and there it is, a very large, very dead racoon. I
> have no idea how we're going to get it out of there...

I'd call the city/municipality to get it out for you. They (raccoons) carry
all sorts of diseases apart from rabies. If you decided to do it yourself,
make sure you're well protected (mask & gloves). Keep the cats/critters away
from it of course.
bonbon - 13 Nov 2004 03:22 GMT
>I should have known it wasn't normal. This morning I saw a racoon
>hanging out on our back deck, looked like he was napping. I figured he
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>get a dead racoon out from under the deck"... :(
>I just went to check, and there it is, a very large, very dead racoon.

> I have no idea how we're going to get it out of there...

Find a couple of teenage boys, and pay 'em $10 to do it for you.

-bonbon
Yoj - 13 Nov 2004 03:34 GMT
> >I should have known it wasn't normal. This morning I saw a racoon
> >hanging out on our back deck, looked like he was napping. I figured he
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>
>  -bonbon

Animal Control will do it for nothing.

Joy
bonbon - 13 Nov 2004 04:31 GMT
>> > I have no idea how we're going to get it out of there...
>>
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>
>Joy

I'm not so sure.  Last January, we lost a cat to a couple of coyotes.
The bastards came right into our front yard and took him.  And he's
not the only cat from our (old) neighborhood that they helped
themselves to.  My husband and I went looking for them one night, and
found them, eating someone else's cat right next to the play yard of a
day care center down the road.  We were standing maybe 50' from them,
and they weren't in the least bit scared of us.  They took off though
when DH fired his cross-bow at them.  We walked over and saw pieces of
a few different cats that they'd been dining on recently.  Called
Police.  Police said call Animal Control.  Called Animal Control.
Animal Control said that for $60 per coyote, they would re-locate
them.  

Yea, right.  Like we're going to pay someone $120.00 to relocate a
couple of opportunists that killed and ate (most of) our cat.  

What we did do, was the next morning, DH went and informed the day
care center of what was going on within a few feet of their play yard
fence, and I went about and told all the neighbors to keep their cats
and small dogs inside after dark.  Then, we moved.

So Victor, give Animal. Control a call, maybe they'll do it for free,
maybe they'll even do it this weekend.  But the teenagers........they
need the money, and I'll bet they'd do it right now.  Plus, they'd
have something to tell their friends about.

-bonbon
Mary - 13 Nov 2004 05:21 GMT
>Called Animal Control.
>Animal Control said that for $60 per coyote, they would re-locate
>them.  

It's actually illegal to relocate nuisance wildlife. They legally would have to
kill them. The pet cats left outside are what is attracting the coyotes. That's
why you need to keep them inside. They also like to eat trash, pet food left
outside besides their normal diet of rats, ground squirrels and rabbits.

The city dead animal pickup department here in LA is super slow. Put on some
gloves, get some fireplace tongs, grab it, drag it out, put it in a trash bag,
double bag it. Then you can do the legal thing which is take it to animal
control to dispose of, or dump it in the trash if your municipality allows it.
Get it out before it really rots and stinks or other animals start eating it.
They may have internal and external parasites so wash up well afterward.
Yoj - 13 Nov 2004 06:49 GMT
> >Called Animal Control.
> >Animal Control said that for $60 per coyote, they would re-locate
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> Get it out before it really rots and stinks or other animals start eating it.
> They may have internal and external parasites so wash up well afterward.

Laws vary with different locations.  Apparently, so does response.  I
live in Ventura County.  A couple of years ago I had a smell of
something dead in my garage, but I thought the smell was coming from
behind my washing machine, which I couldn't move.  I called Animal
Control at about 8:30 on a Sunday morning.  By 9:30, a man was there.
He moved both the washer and dryer, and when the source wasn't there, he
systematically searched the garage until he found a dead possum behind
some boxes.  He removed it immediately, and advised me to pour bleach on
the spot where it had been found.

Joy
jmcquown - 13 Nov 2004 13:39 GMT
>>> Called Animal Control.
>>> Animal Control said that for $60 per coyote, they would re-locate
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>
> Joy

Next to where I used to work was a large open field (as yet undeveloped) and
a small copse of woods.  A mama red fox and her two kits were often spotted
frolicking on the grass.  They were as friendly as little dogs and cute as
could be.  I remember seeing one of the kits try to jump on a car and the
momma barked at it and it got down.

Unfortunately, there were some people who were 'afraid' of them because
they'd trot right up and want to be petted, like little dogs.  These people
complained to the building management.  I was told they would be trapped by
Animal Control and relocated.

All I know is they simply stopped coming around.  We sorely missed watching
their playful antics.  I hope they WERE relocated, rather than killed.
Shelby Farms would gladly have taken the mom and her kits; there's woods and
fields and streams and ponds.  Would have been a good place for the fox
family to go and I surely hope they made it there.

Jill
Kreisleriana - 13 Nov 2004 14:39 GMT
>Next to where I used to work was a large open field (as yet undeveloped) and
>a small copse of woods.  A mama red fox and her two kits were often spotted
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>
>Jill

It probably wasn't in the babies' best interest to get too friendly
with people.  Purrs that they were relocated to a lovely place for
little foxies.

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Howard Berkowitz - 13 Nov 2004 05:36 GMT
> I should have known it wasn't normal. This morning I saw a racoon
> hanging out on our back deck, looked like he was napping. I figured he
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> I just went to check, and there it is, a very large, very dead racoon. I
> have no idea how we're going to get it out of there...

This isn't necessarily a job for animal control, but for public health.
If the local public health people don't cooperate, call the state. It
isn't a given that a raccoon that shows itself during daylight is rabid,
but the chance is definitely not negligible.  

If I had no other choice, I'd wear gloves, eye protection, a respirator
or at least surgical mask, and preferably a disposable coverall. Next,
I'd saturate the carcass with a 5-10% dilution of fresh bleach, let it
soak for 30-60 minutes, then pick it up with a shovel, put it into a
double heavy garbage bag, and pour, from as far a distance as possible,
more bleach into the bag -- and then take the bag to a biohazard
disposal site. Given the explanation, a local hospital might cooperate.  
Saturate the area where the carcass was with paper towels soaked in
bleach, and dispose of them in double bags.

These are extreme measures, since rabies transmits principally through
saliva, but rabies is among the most lethal viruses known and I
certainly wouldn't take a chance. I'd use everything I know about
handling a hot biological agent. Might be overdoing it, but if the
raccoon was rabid, it's not well to take chances. This is not a job for
teenagers or anyone not trained in biohazard mitigation.
Victor Martinez - 13 Nov 2004 14:53 GMT
The dead racoon is now in a plastic bag waiting for the City to come
pick it up. I had to pull up a plank in the deck, but it came out more
easily than I thought. Poor thing, I wonder if it was one of the racoons
that was born on our attic a few years ago? It might have come home to
die. :(

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bonbon - 13 Nov 2004 16:10 GMT
>The dead racoon is now in a plastic bag waiting for the City to come
>pick it up. I had to pull up a plank in the deck, but it came out more
>easily than I thought.

Glad to hear that Victor.

>Poor thing, I wonder if it was one of the racoons
>that was born on our attic a few years ago? It might have come home to
>die. :(

That would be interesting to find out.  Did it look as if it had
suffered any trauma?

-bonbon
Victor Martinez - 13 Nov 2004 16:20 GMT
> That would be interesting to find out.  Did it look as if it had
> suffered any trauma?

There was no evident sign of trauma, but I didn't actually examine the
body. I saw it alive Friday morning, he was just napping (or so it
seemed). Tom said he saw it dying, gasping and stuff. :(

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Karen Chuplis - 13 Nov 2004 19:53 GMT
>> That would be interesting to find out.  Did it look as if it had
>> suffered any trauma?
>
> There was no evident sign of trauma, but I didn't actually examine the
> body. I saw it alive Friday morning, he was just napping (or so it
> seemed). Tom said he saw it dying, gasping and stuff. :(

Ihope you washed up really well. It sounds like it was sick poor thing.
CatNipped - 13 Nov 2004 15:49 GMT
> I should have known it wasn't normal. This morning I saw a racoon
> hanging out on our back deck, looked like he was napping. I figured he
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I just went to check, and there it is, a very large, very dead racoon. I
> have no idea how we're going to get it out of there...

Oh dear!  Are you going to have to pull up your deck?  What a pain in the
arse!

Hugs,

CatNipped

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