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jmcquown - 26 Sep 2007 08:17 GMT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ4vmSvCVbc

I may be wrong but that might be Marilyn Monroe singing that song.

Jill
Magic Mood Jeep - 26 Sep 2007 12:05 GMT
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ4vmSvCVbc
>
> I may be wrong but that might be Marilyn Monroe singing that song.
>
> Jill

According to the person who posted the video, it's Bjork

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Bridget - 26 Sep 2007 13:19 GMT
I didn't like it because whoever did it took others videos and spliced
them into one and I am going to make a big assumption here, but I am
willing bet it is correct, I am betting they didn't ask for permission
and are thus making all kinds of copyright violations. It is why I will
not put my work on the internet and when I get ready to, it will be in
forms that are not worth copying because the resolution is so low. Yes,
the sincerest form of flattery is imitation, but this goes beyond
imitation and just steals work that the original people did and doesn't
even give them credit. That is wrong. As someone who is considered a
professional artist at this point, that is just wrong. Some of that work
is quite good and to steal from it is wrong. Just because it is out
there doesn't mean anyone can do what they want with it - it is all
recognized by national and international copyright laws and can only be
used in classrooms and for educational purposes under fair use laws.

My 50 cents worth. (inflation abounds)

Bridget

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ4vmSvCVbc
>
> I may be wrong but that might be Marilyn Monroe singing that song.
>
> Jill
jmcquown - 26 Sep 2007 14:52 GMT
> I didn't like it because whoever did it took others videos and spliced
> them into one and I am going to make a big assumption here, but I am
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>
> Bridget

Ahem... I'm a copyrighted author with the Library of Congress, USA.  I'm not
sure when anything posted on the Internet actually becomes an intellectual
property vs. a copyrighted one.  I have posted many of my own recipes and
anecdotes here.  Hey, if someone says the recipe is theirs but it's actually
mine, so be it.  It's not like I've got a book deal.  And I'd be flattered
they thought the idea (or whatever) was a good thing.

If someone posts photos or videos, guess what?  Anyone can see them, anyone
can use them.  I see cautionary mentions (since I don't sleep well and am
often awake in the wee hours of the morning) about being careful what you
post... anyone can see (and, by extension) use it.  Public domain and all
that.

Que sera sera.  I enjoyed the video.

Jill

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ4vmSvCVbc
>>
>> I may be wrong but that might be Marilyn Monroe singing that song.
>>
>> Jill
Sherry - 26 Sep 2007 15:12 GMT
> I didn't like it because whoever did it took others videos and spliced
> them into one and I am going to make a big assumption here, but I am
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>
> Bridget

That's a good point to ponder, Bridget. When you upload your videos on
a
public domain like Utube, do you relinquish your rights of ownership?
I wouldn't
think so, but I'm not brushed-up on plagiarism/copyright laws anymore.
I used to
take that issue very seriously since I worked in print media all my
life.
On the ethical side, though, I'd hope the person at least *asked* if
their
clips could be included in that.
OTOH, I'm so paranoid about it, I don't even use internet-articles in
our dinky little newsletter unless I get permission. It's just not
right. And there's practically a
100% chance the original author wouldn't ever see it.

Sherry
jmcquown - 27 Sep 2007 05:09 GMT
>> I didn't like it because whoever did it took others videos and
>> spliced them into one and I am going to make a big assumption here,
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> Sherry

I'm a copyrighted author.  The Internet is a very grey area when it comes to
such things in U.S. courts, but honestly, if someone wanted to use a photo
or some of my verse to put in a cute vignette like this, I wouldn't begrudge
them.  YouTube is free.  No one is profiting by people viewing this.  If
they were charging by the view, that would be a different story.  Then I'd
assert my copyright privileges, such as they are.  Otherwise, who cares?

I have recipes I've created and shared with you folks.  Would it bother me
if you shared them with friends and family?  Nope.  Would it bother me if
you claimed they were *your* recipes?  Yes.  But recipes can't be
copyrighted.  A list of ingredients can't be copyrighted.  The actual
directions which may contain nuances and aspects of a personal nature MAY be
subject to copyright laws... but even that is questionable.  Throw the
Internet or Usenet into the mix and no one has a clue.

One thing is clear... YouTube is a free service.  No one profits so
copyright violations aren't an issue.

Jill
Sherry - 27 Sep 2007 06:12 GMT
> >> I didn't like it because whoever did it took others videos and
> >> spliced them into one and I am going to make a big assumption here,
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>
> Jill- Hide quoted text -

With all due respect, you are very wrong. Copyrights are very much an
issue with UTube,
free or not. U-Tube is in the middle of several
lawsuits from various entertainers, all the way to the Jersey Turnpike
Authority
for use of a surveillance video.The bottom line is, it is unethical,
to snatch another person's work, and
include it in a compilation as if it were your own.

Sherry

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