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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / September 2007Kitty Farmcat - some concern
She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on the spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of breakfast more. She did not get up until 5 pm and she ate only a little part of the sardine treat I tempted her with. Lets just hope its a b*st*rd cat trick. If she does not improve tomorrow she will have a TED appointment. This will not be a happy experience for the 3 of us. KFC will be enraged and the humans will need first aid for their wounds. I'm worried. Is this the beginning of the end? Tweed On Sep 15, 7:41 pm, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on the > spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'm worried. Is this the beginning of the end? Let's hope not. You have helped her life be a pleasure and given each other love. Rojoice. All may yet be very well. Will in New Haven -- We are not now that strength which in the old days Moved Earth and Heaven; That which we are we are One equal temper of heroic hearts Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield. - From ULYSSES by Alfred Lord Tennyson > Tweed > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on > the spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tweed Lets certainly hope not. Purrs and Prayers in route On Sep 15, 6:41 pm, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on the > spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tweed I don't think so, Tweed. Yoda does that sometimes. I don't get worried unless it continues into the second day. The exception is, if he goes into the hall closet. He always hides when he is truly sick. But I think you're wise to be concerned and to get her checked out if it does conintue. After all, cats are so good at masking illness, sometimes a variation in routine is the only clue we have that they are feeling "off." Hope she bounces back tomorrow. Sherr > On Sep 15, 6:41 pm, "Christina Websell" > <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Sherry She is sleeping very soundly on her donut bed atm. If she does not get up and eat twice a day something is very wrong. I hope she bounces back too. I love the grumpy little git ;-) Tweed >> On Sep 15, 6:41 pm, "Christina Websell" >> <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Tweed She may just need some fluids. Not sure how well that would go! But it does amazing things for kitties with kidney trouble. > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on > the spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tweed Purrs that it isn't anything serious. Joy > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on the > spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of > breakfast more. She did not get up until 5 pm and she ate only a little > part of the sardine treat I tempted her with. Lets just hope its a b*st*rd > cat trick. > If she does not improve tomorrow she will have a TED appointment. This will > not be a happy experience for the 3 of us. KFC will be enraged and the > humans will need first aid for their wounds. > I'm worried. Is this the beginning of the end? I hope not! :( Purrs that this is just a temporary upset - maybe something didn't agree with her, or she's just extra tired. Licky sends all his purrs for his KFC girl. With help from Roxy and even from Smudge. Please keep us posted! Joyce > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping > on the spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tweed At one time or another every cat I've had has done this. A deep deep sleep for a whole 12-24 hours, then they get up as if nothing was ever wrong. I always let them do it because it seems their bodies need it to heal whatever is wrong. I used to get terribly worried, but now I just wait and see since they've all done it. If it goes past the 24 hours though, I take them to the vet. Hope your kitty will be ok too. Bobble >> She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping >> on the spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > see since they've all done it. If it goes past the 24 hours though, I take > them to the vet. Hope your kitty will be ok too. If she was 5 yo I would not worry, she is 20 plus and has CRF. Thanks for your reply. I appreciate the time you took to help. >She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on the >spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >I'm worried. Is this the beginning of the end? I hope that's not the case, after she's been so strong and still a source of stories. Dot can get like that too - changeable priorities depending on how much beauty rest she thinks she needs. > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping > on the spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tweed Sending good vibes and thoughts. On Sep 15, 7:41 pm, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on the > spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'm worried. Is this the beginning of the end? I don't know sweetie, but we're sending healthy thoughts and purrs in your direction. KFC is such an integeral part of my kitteh auntship that I can't imagine a world without her. Pam S. worried too > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on the > spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'm worried. Is this the beginning of the end? I hope it isn't, but if it is, she has had a long and interesting life, hasn't she? Purrs for you and KFC (and Boyfie, who will surely miss her cantankerous ways, if this is, indeed, the end). If she still likes scritches, please give her one from me.  SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on the > spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tweed TuTu has been "holing up" too. She always does this when a storm is approaching/ Perhaps KFC feels the weather too. Purrs for her wellbeing. Instead of rushing her to TED why not let her have peace and quiet (which IMHO is healing)? While I am at it, we shall purr for your ailing abdomen too. Nature has a way of telling you when you should no longer do heavy work. Best wishes. MLB > If she does not improve tomorrow she will have a TED appointment. This will > not be a happy experience for the 3 of us. KFC will be enraged and the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Tweed I really do hope not. :( As an old girl she's likely to spend days snoozing, but the minute the routine changes that's a red warning flag, especially as she has CRF. Could TED come to the house to make it easier on KFC? Purrs for it to be a bastard cat trick. Helen M > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping > on the spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tweed Sending lots of purrs hoping KFC's having a bad day and will be okay tomorrow. Perhaps you should send BF out to get het a collared dove. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on > the spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tweed Of course you are. Stinky is pushing 17, and I think, amazing for his age-- I just took a video of him playing. But every little hitch makes my heart stop. My boys are sending your fabulous old girl their biggest and best purrs. Keep us updated, KFC is one of our favorite cats. Hope she lives another 20 years. Lily & her mama SignatureIrulan from the stars we come to the stars we return from now until the end of time. > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on > the spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tweed On 15 Sep, 16:41, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > I'm worried. Is this the beginning of the end? Purrs to you and KFC- if sleeping late is the beginning of the end then I'm now worried as neither of my Fabulous Furballs got up until 1.00 this afternoon! Usually a Hoomin waking up is a cause to come and at least get a few skritchies and some breakfast but today we were staring to wonder if we did actually have cats , breakfast was down, Hoomins were up and no sign of a Furball was noted. I couldn't even find them (Usually they sleep where they can be seen) and I was staring to panic when Sarsi appeared from nowhere and suddenly Dunzi turned up as well But once again loadsa purrs for you, BF and KFC- keep us posted Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on the > spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'm worried. Is this the beginning of the end? Well, as I've often said, there's almost nothing that one can say for certain that begins with "ALL cats...." but usually, if there's something really wrong, they tend to hide somewhere, not lie out on a bed in plain sight. My Melisande is getting up there (have we really been together since 1997?). She seems to sleep more, and show much less interest in feeding time than she once did, but she and Cendrillon still play their early morning games of tag over me, so she's still plenty active. I think as cats get older, they don't require as much food, because they expend less energy. (People might be wise to follow their example?) Kitty seems somewhat better today. She showed up for breakfast and ate most of it. Had a long nap and then ate the other sardine I saved her from yesterday. Sardines are a rare treat here. She's been on my lap purring and kneading every time I sat down today and the smell of roast chicken at lunchtime had her hanging around looking as noticable as possible in the kitchen. She condescended to hoover up a few pieces of warm chicken breast that I offered her ;-) It's so scary having such an old lady. My common sense tells me that she is on borrowed time so I look out for signs that all is not well and then panic if I see one. Adrian, you are right, a collared dove would probably put her right, but Boyfie has been sadly lacking in this department. It's months since he brought one home for her. Not entirely his fault as a female sparrowhawk is beating him to them and has reduced the population considerably. He's a good hunter, but he cannot fly ;-) All he is bringing home atm is shrews, which every cat knows are impossible to eat as they cause vomiting. Thanks to everyone for all your purrs and prayers, they seem to be working. Tweed On Sep 16, 3:50 pm, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > Kitty seems somewhat better today. She showed up for breakfast and ate most > of it. Had a long nap and then ate the other sardine I saved her from [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Tweed Glad to hear she's perked up some. I totally understand your concern. I worry myself over Yoda, then he manages to rally back the next day. And he's much younger than KFC-he is only 15. But he's been ill a lot in his life and acts very old. I've thought about this. I *so* don't want him to be sick or to suffer. I really hope that someday (hopefully years from now)....I just find him dead in one of his sleeping places. Sherry > On Sep 16, 3:50 pm, "Christina Websell" > <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > someday (hopefully years from now)....I just find him dead in one of > his sleeping places. Sam is only nine but he is already practicing. I'll find him asleep in the strangest positions, and barely breathing. At least once a month he gets a nap interrupted to make sure he is still with us. Jo > Kitty seems somewhat better today. She showed up for breakfast and ate most > of it. Had a long nap and then ate the other sardine I saved her from [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > noticable as possible in the kitchen. She condescended to hoover up a few > pieces of warm chicken breast that I offered her ;-) I'm really happy to hear this!! Sounds like she just needed some extra rest. Still, I would consider giving her some subq fluids, if you're not already doing that. It will keep her feeling a lot better and will also keep her going longer. Licky says hello and he's glad she's enjoying sardines and chicken! Joyce > Kitty seems somewhat better today. She showed up for breakfast and ate most > of it. Had a long nap and then ate the other sardine I saved her from [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Tweed Good! Sounds like she just wanted to "sleep in" yesterday - it's one of the prerogatives of being a "senior citizen". (That seems to happen to me a lot more often, too, since I retired - why get up early if I don't feel like it?) On Sep 16, 4:50 pm, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > Kitty seems somewhat better today. She showed up for breakfast and ate most > of it. Had a long nap and then ate the other sardine I saved her from > yesterday. Sardines are a rare treat here. Sounds like a good morning. > She's been on my lap purring and kneading every time I sat down today and > the smell of roast chicken at lunchtime had her hanging around looking as > noticable as possible in the kitchen. She condescended to hoover up a few > pieces of warm chicken breast that I offered her ;-) Sounds like a lovely lunchtime. > It's so scary having such an old lady. My common sense tells me that she is > on borrowed time so I look out for signs that all is not well and then panic > if I see one. Very normal. I had a d*g who kept getting "fit as a fiddle, needs to lose a _tiny_ bit of weight" from a very good, and loving, TED, for many years after I started saying "but she's getting old" and steeling myself for an ordeal. > Adrian, you are right, a collared dove would probably put her right, but > Boyfie has been sadly lacking in this department. It's months since he > brought one home for her. Not entirely his fault as a female sparrowhawk is > beating him to them and has reduced the population considerably. He's a > good hunter, but he cannot fly ;-) The utter unfairness. One would think that little bird would be fairminded enough to forego that advantage in the name of honest competition. > All he is bringing home atm is shrews, which every cat knows are impossible > to eat as they cause vomiting. > Thanks to everyone for all your purrs and prayers, they seem to be working. She's a wonderful citizen and all of us would miss her. Tell that rascal boy to get busy on powered flight before all the doves are gone. Will in New Haven -- "If you don't see the mouse at the table in the first few minutes, check your own breath for cheese." Feather in <Poker for Cats> > Tweed Tell that > rascal boy to get busy on powered flight before all the doves are I'm just imaging BF on one of those gyrocopter things or a jetpack (a la James Bond) I'm sure of he could get one he would to bring KFC some collared dove but until he can sardines and roast chicken will have to do... Glad she's feeling better Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > On Sep 16, 4:50 pm, "Christina Websell" > <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > many years after I started saying "but she's getting old" and steeling > myself for an ordeal. Kitty was diagnosed with CRF, last year. I am not worrying just because she is old, I've had a lot of old dogs that reached a great age and I was not at the vet all the time because they were "old" and I was worried because of this. I was worried because lack of appetite could be a sign that that her CRF might be escalating. Two people have suggested subq fluids. This will be a last resort and to be frank it would be so I could keep her a bit longer. She would hate the procedure. She is still in her heart of hearts, semi feral, hates most people. freaks out at the vets AND I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO! If you had a semi-feral 20 years old plus cat that is perhaps ill (add in that is love here both ways) what would all do? Tweed > Two people have suggested subq fluids. This will be a last resort and to be > frank it would be so I could keep her a bit longer. She would hate the > procedure. She is still in her heart of hearts, semi feral, hates most > people. freaks out at the vets AND I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO! > If you had a semi-feral 20 years old plus cat that is perhaps ill (add in > that is love here both ways) what would all do? I'm not sure I fully understand this last sentence, but the question of how to deal with a sick feral or semi-feral, when they need TED care, is on my mind, too, even though the situation hasn't come up. I worry about Licky. Getting Advantage on the back of his neck is a major project each month, and causes him minor trauma. I can't even imagine what it will be like to try to get him into a cat carrier, much less cart him off to the vet. So I feel for you!! (You have it worse since you are currently dealing with this situation.) I guess your one advantage is that she is such a tiny cat, and not all that strong anymore. So if you have to, you could force her to put up with treatment. She would absolutely hate it, and I'm sure you would too, but if it's life-saving, it might be necessary. (*Up to a point* - I do realize that some treatments are not worth the pain they cause a cat, to extend their life a few days or weeks. But giving subq fluids is not a very painful treatment. I'm sure some cats hate it just because they don't like being handled or having things "done" to them at all. But it doesn't take long and it really helps a lot with CRF.) Purrs & good luck, Joyce This may not be appropiate but here goes. When my husband was very ill, I had medical power of attorney. He wasn't in him right mind so they gave me choices, none of which I liked. He had always said "don't let them do to me what you wouldn't want done to you." Guess that could apply here and, if you truely believe in the Bridge and what it stands for, you will figure out what is best. Life, (sigh) is never easy. > > Two people have suggested subq fluids. This will be a last resort and > > to be [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Purrs & good luck, > Joyce > I guess your one advantage is that she is such a tiny cat, and not all > that strong anymore. So if you have to, you could force her to put up [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > don't like being handled or having things "done" to them at all. But it > doesn't take long and it really helps a lot with CRF.) I'll consider it, If KFC does not start springing around like a 3 yo soon I will ask the vet what he thinks about us travelling a few times a week to get subq. I know what he will say. He will say do not put a 20+ cat through this. Otherwise she will remain at home eating sardines and fancy stuff until she lies down down one night and doesn't wake up in the morning. I hope. > I'll consider it, If KFC does not start springing around like a 3 yo soon > I will ask the vet what he thinks about us travelling a few times a week to > get subq. I know what he will say. He will say do not put a 20+ cat through > this. You don't have to put her through travelling, though. This is something that you could do yourself. It's not nearly as difficult as it sounds. But only you know whether it's really worthwhile. If it will make KFC so miserable that life wouldn't be worth living for her, then there is no sense in torturing her. The cats I've given fluids to did not seem to feel it was torture. They weren't thrilled about it during the procedure itself, but they tolerated it. It lasts about 5 minutes tops. And when I saw how it helped them perk up within about a half-hour, I decided it was definitely worth it for them. But you know your cat best. > Otherwise she will remain at home eating sardines and fancy stuff until she > lies down down one night and doesn't wake up in the morning. I hope. This would not be a bad way to go, either. Purrs, Joyce >> I guess your one advantage is that she is such a tiny cat, and not all >> that strong anymore. So if you have to, you could force her to put up [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Otherwise she will remain at home eating sardines and fancy stuff until > she lies down down one night and doesn't wake up in the morning. I hope. >I'm not sure I fully understand this last sentence, but the question >of how to deal with a sick feral or semi-feral, when they need TED care, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >the vet. So I feel for you!! (You have it worse since you are currently >dealing with this situation.) If KFC is adverse to a carrier, can she maybe handle being handled enough to be harnessed? Fritzie took well to a harness, though he wasn't feral. If KFC is used to some affectiion & interaction, you may be able to get the herness on her and carry her out to the vet. . But giving subq fluids is not a >very painful treatment. I'm sure some cats hate it just because they >don't like being handled or having things "done" to them at all. But it >doesn't take long and it really helps a lot with CRF.) Fritzie lived 3 years on subq fluids and they gave him a greatly increased quality of life and energy. Blessed be, Baha >Purrs & good luck, >Joyce >> On Sep 16, 4:50 pm, "Christina Websell" >> <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Tweed You know, I think if she is really stressed, at 20, you just do your best by her and make her happy. > If you had a semi-feral 20 years old plus cat that is perhaps ill (add in > that is love here both ways) what would all do? I think you have to look at it from the cat's point of view, if the cat is going to be freaked out by it, then I'd be inclined to let nature take it's course rather than subjecting the cat to regular TED visits. I know it's easy to say that when it's not my cat, and I'm dreading the day when I have to make that decision for one of mine, but I hope that's what I'd do. -- Nik Simpson I would do what is in her best interest, even if I cried over it every time I did it, you know her best, if giving her the fluids makes her quality of life worse then its not worth doing... I would probably either try it once to see if it does help, or maybe see if the vet would come to your house to do it, then if that wasn't a good thing for her, make her comfortable, cry a bunch and help her go when the time arrives, Lee > > On Sep 16, 4:50 pm, "Christina Websell" > > <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Tweed > Kitty seems somewhat better today. She showed up for breakfast and ate most > of it. Had a long nap and then ate the other sardine I saved her from [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > noticable as possible in the kitchen. She condescended to hoover up a few > pieces of warm chicken breast that I offered her ;-) I'm so relieved to read this. I remember that constant worry during Frank's last autumn, and he was 'only' 17-18. We are purring for KFC to continue this well for many more years. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. > Kitty seems somewhat better today. She showed up for breakfast and > ate most of it. Had a long nap and then ate the other sardine I [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > working. > Tweed I'm glad she's feeling better, with luck she's still got years left. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Glad to hear she's perked up. God bless you both. Lily & her mama SignatureIrulan from the stars we come to the stars we return from now until the end of time. > Kitty seems somewhat better today. She showed up for breakfast and ate > most of it. Had a long nap and then ate the other sardine I saved her [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Tweed > Kitty seems somewhat better today. She showed up for breakfast and ate > most of it. Had a long nap and then ate the other sardine I saved her [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Tweed Still coming. I was thinking about her last night, but I had an appintment this morning, so couldn't see the update till now. Hoping she stays stable. > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on the > spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tweed We're hoping it's just a BCT and sending purrs to you both. Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe >She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on the >spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I'm worried. Is this the beginning of the end? I decidedly hope not! My impression of KFC is that she's a stubborn and feisty girl, and maybe is just storing up energy to perform said b@$tard cat trick. Purrs for you both on the way! Blessed be, Baha > She did not get up for her breakfast this morning. Too busy sleeping on the > spare bed. Whilst she likes sleeping she usually likes the idea of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tweed Lots and lots of purrs and hugs, Polonca and Soncek
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