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Kreisleriana - 11 Sep 2007 14:10 GMT
It was a brilliant morning, and I was on my way out the door to vote in the
mayoral primary.  I had the radio on, and it so happens that my radio
station has its studio in Lower Manhattan-- and they reported--  
disbelievingly--  that someone had visually spotted a low-flying plane
coming down the west side of Manhattan.  And the plane flew right into the
World Trade Center.

It's the kind of thing that just doesn't register when you hear it-- or even
when you see it-- because I turned on the TV, and immediately saw it.  And
it still didn't register.

I had the TV on with the sound off, and the radio on-- and the radio station
pretty much valiantly reported as eyewitnesses as events unfolded, since
they were pretty much right on the scene.  When the second plane
materialized, and flew into the second building, that's when I could feel
something horrfying dawn on me-- but somehow that didn't wholly register
either.

I have to just interject here that although I was watching on TV and
listening on the radio, it wasn't as if I was watching from a distance.  For
us New Yorkers, even those of us in the boroughs, that's all very much our
territory.  That's part of our home.  So many of us work there.  My brother
and I literally watched those buildings go up, almost brick by brick, as
kids.  And my dad lives about six blocks away .
It wasn't all that different from if it were happening on my block.

The moment has just passed when the second plane hit.

It's not a similar day at all-- it's grey and rainy.  But whenever we have
one of those pristine, crystal-clear fall days,  my mind-- or really
something more in my body, my nervous system-- goes back to that day.

Peace to the victims and healing to their families.
jmcquown - 11 Sep 2007 16:00 GMT
> It was a brilliant morning, and I was on my way out the door to vote
> in the mayoral primary.  I had the radio on, and it so happens that
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>
> Peace to the victims and healing to their families.

Amen.  I can't imagine what it must have been like as a New Yorker.  But we
all have our stories.  May I share mine?  It's rather long.  A day in a
life, so to speak.

I was at the office when one of our business analysts, Jarrod, who had just
arrived at work and had been listening to the radio on his way in, came up
and asked me if I'd heard about the plane hitting the WTC.  Well, no, how
could I?  I've been at work for an hour.  We were commenting on how very
*odd* it was when one of the programmers came striding by on the way to his
wife's office (yes, nepotism abounds in that place, odd for a large
company).  He said as he rushed by, "A plane just hit the other tower.
Looks like we're at war."  Jarrod and I just looked at each other,
dumbfounded.  Then he said to me, slowly, "Jill, isn't Marsh [our parent
company] located in the World Trade Center?"  Oh, crap!  Yes, it is.

I rushed to my desk and turned on the radio on my clock.  I announced to the
others who had arrived for work in my department what was going on.  Pretty
soon everyone in IT was rushing around as the news spread.

Marsh & McClennan occupied the 99th to the 101st floor of the North Tower.
We had a number of colleagues who had either transferred to work for Marsh
in the WTC.  We also had a number of them up there on temporary, 6 month,
assignments to help them set up a new infrastructure.  Now some of our IT
colleages were receiving text messages from our people trapped in the North
Tower.  Neel came by and told me he was being told the stairs were gone,
they couldn't get out.  Those who could were huddled in a conference room,
as far away from the smoke and fire as possible.  People who were getting
text messages were being asked that their families be notified they were
okay.  Stuck, but okay.  Just get word to them, please.  Tell them we love
them.  Etc.  It was heartbreaking.  It was terrifying.

Within 30 minutes of the first crash, the guys and gals from the
Infrastructure department had connected all the big screens in the
conference rooms on three floors to a live satellite feed.  And we watched
the tragedy unfold.

Keep in mind, I worked on our software help desk at the time; the software
was only used by people within our company (nationwide).  Needless to say,
no one was manning the phones.  I was standing in the conference room when
the man over our dept. (and several others) said, "Someone needs to be out
there answering the phones."  I turned and looked at him.  I said quietly,
"Do you really think anyone cares about the software right now?"

It was about that moment I heard a woman ask, "Is that building swaying?"
Someone else said, "Aren't they built to do that?"  Oh My God.  And moments
later we watched as the first of the Towers fell.  I can't describe how I
felt at that moment.  People in the conference room were crying quietly.
One woman was praying out loud.  I felt such a sense of unreality.  Then
loss.  Then anger.

I couldn't take it anymore.  I went to my desk and changed the message on
our dept. phone system to say we were unavailable, then rolled the dept.
phone lines over to voicemail.  I went downstairs, outside to the portico to
have a smoke.  There were a lot of people out there, even those who didn't
smoke.  It was, I suppose, a way of distancing ourselves for a moment,
although we really couldn't do that, could we?  It was while I was down
there the word came.  The second Tower had fallen.

I can't recall the exact sequence of events.  But let's not forget the plane
that hit the Pentagon during all of this.  My former manager and good
friend, Jim, came by my desk as I was sitting, stunned, hearing this news on
the radio.  I looked up at him in shock.  "A plane just hit the Pentagon."
WHAT?!  Yes.

And let us not forget the people who heroically fought back and took down
the plane in Pennsylvania, to prevent it from flying into (presumeably) the
White House.

Idiotically, some middle-management drones were still trying to conduct
"business as usual", as if there was nothing unusual about this morning.  My
(then) manager reminded me we had a conference call scheduled for 11am with
all the software coordinators around the country.  I just sort of looked at
her and said, "Uh huh."  She actually DID initiate the call.  The president
of the company broke in with the announcement that all offices were hereby
closed for business, with only key personnel to remain as a skeleton staff.
(I was one of the "skeletons" but by 2pm Central Time it was apparent even
we didn't need to be there.)

We later learned the first plane flew directly into the corner office of our
former Director of IT, Gary Lasko.  Gary was a reluctant transferree.  In
fact, he'd left the employ of Marsh years before to work for SCMS.  He still
maintained his residence in Memphis; his wife and daughter remained here and
he had an apartment in Manhattan that he used during the week.  He came home
on weekends to be with them.  He *soooo* did not want to be in NYC. (sigh)

My friend, Ian Robb, had been our Director of Human Resources and
transferred to NYC to work directly with Marsh after the acquisition.  His
train was late on that fateful morning.  He'd just gotten on an elevator in
the North Tower with about 10 other people when the first plane hit.  The
elevators immediately shut down, so they didn't go anywhere.  They were
trapped for at least an hour, maybe more, before suddenly the doors opened.
He heard one of the firefighters call out, "Hey!  That elevator door just
opened!"  And they stepped out of the car and into a nightmare.  They were
quickly ushered from the building, shocked, stunned.  They were hustled away
from the building just minutes before the Tower shuddered, then fell.

That's how I remember the day.  With horror.  With anger.  With sadness.

Jill

Jill
Daniel Mahoney - 11 Sep 2007 17:18 GMT
If you don't mind, I'll share mine as well. My experience that day gave me
a glimpse at how stupid and bigoted some people (many people?) can be.

In the fall of 2001 I was beginning the truck driving phase of my life. I
was working for Swift Transportation, and I was out on the road with a
trainer. The night before we had picked up a load of tires in Reno, NV and
had to deliver them to San Luis Obispo and Oxnard, CA. We had stopped at
the truck stop in Salinas, CA for a cup of coffee early in the morning.

I was over fixing up my coffee while my trainer, Mike, wandered around the
convenience store at the truck stop. He was standing over by the TV
display when he yelled out "Hey, someone just crashed a plane into the
World Trade Center in New York!". I figured that he was just joking around
(he has a sense of humor that tended to irritate me). I walked over
towards him and was about to tell him that his joke wasn't funny when I
glanced at the TV and saw that he wasn't joking. There were only a handful
of us drivers in the store at the time, but everybody gathered around the
TVs to watch. When the 2nd plane went in, we knew it wasn't an accident.

Mike and I returned to the truck and headed south on Highway 101. We
turned the radio to a local news station and kept listening while we
traveled. I called Nancy to tell her the news, and got her to promise to
call with any major updates since we were going to lose our radio signal
soon. Once we lost the signal, we listened to the CB. That was frightening.

The majority of the drivers we heard on the CB were assuming that Arab
terrorists were responsible, and were talking about how it wasn't going to
be safe to be a "raghead" (man, I hate that term) in the US. Many of them
were talking about ganging up and beating every raghead they saw - and
they were serious.

While we waited for an unloading slot in San Luis we turned on the TV in
the bunk and found a local news station. We watched reruns of the tower
collapse footage. I was so angry that I was on the verge of tears all day.
That was a new experience for me - I've never been that angry before. But
in spite of my anger, I knew that we had to wait to find out who was
REALLY behind it, and allow The Powers That Be to handle the issue.

The powerfully anti-Arab talk on the CB continued for another few weeks,
but thankfully we didn't see nearly as many acts of senseless violence as
the CB chatter had led me to expect. But it sure did get me to take a
closer look at a lot of my fellow drivers.
jofirey - 11 Sep 2007 18:10 GMT
> If you don't mind, I'll share mine as well. My experience that day gave me
> a glimpse at how stupid and bigoted some people (many people?) can be.
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> the CB chatter had led me to expect. But it sure did get me to take a
> closer look at a lot of my fellow drivers.

What makes it even worse, everyone went there first after the Oklahoma City
bombing.  Including the news media.  At least by 9/11 the media had learned
a little from that mistake.  They already had film in their vaults to
counteract the turban equals Muslim equals terrorist nonsense.

But like everyone else in the world, some Americans just aren't too bright
and are way to quick to anger and to hate.

Jo
Nomen Nescio - 11 Sep 2007 20:50 GMT
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From: "jofirey" <jofirey@hotmail.com>

>But like everyone else in the world, some Americans just aren't too bright
>and are way to quick to anger and to hate.

This group is the perfect example of that.
Kreisleriana - 11 Sep 2007 18:17 GMT
> If you don't mind, I'll share mine as well. My experience that day gave me
> a glimpse at how stupid and bigoted some people (many people?) can be.
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> the CB chatter had led me to expect. But it sure did get me to take a
> closer look at a lot of my fellow drivers.

I'm so sorry you were subjected to that.  Let me tell you a couple of things
that may comfort you a bit.

I live in a neighborhood in Brooklyn that is very heavily immigrant.
Mexicans, Central Americans, Indians, Pakistanis, Russians, Chinese.  There
is a considerable Muslim presence here.   There's a mosque that broadcasts a
call to prayer five times a day.
I wonder how some of your colleagues would like to live here. :P

My local newstand (cliche, I know) and drugstore) are largely staffed by
young people from Muslim backgrounds.  The drugstore employs several
wonderful, bright, brisk, funny, highly competent young Pakistani girls.

On that day, I walked to the drugstore.  From my porch, I could see the
black smoke starting to drift over from Manhattan, and those strange white
fragments of ash that started to settle all over the city.  I still felt so
strange.  I went into the drugstore and made my purchase, and at the
counter, I just felt at a loss for a moment.  I didn't know where I was
going or what I was doing.  I suddenly felt a hand touch mine.

I looked up, and saw the dark brown eyes of the girl at the checkout looking
down at me.

"We'll be all right," she said, gently.

And I still don't know what she meant, really.  We didn't really know yet
who was responsible for the attacks.  But I knew she meant "we"  as in "us"
in our neighborhood. Or "we" as in New Yorkers.  I was so grateful for that
little girl's concern and generosity.  I have never forgotten it.

These are our neighbors, and these are the children my mother has been
responsible for as a public school teacher, until she retired in June.  And
as soon as it became somewhat clear where the attack came from, my mother
became acutely aware of her responsibility to support and protect those
children, because she knew that they were going to see and hear ugly things.
And I find it absolutely unconscionable, the things that those kids have had
to put up with from some ignorant people.

Anyone who spent any time with those kids at all would be ashamed to think
that way, more ashamed to talk that way.
Matthew - 11 Sep 2007 16:17 GMT
Everyone knows my feeling and what happened that morning to me.  It is a day
that will be etched in the minds of  the world for a life time

I thought these would be appropriate for today

To all the heroes lost and made that day.  You are in my prayers everyday

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks
9/11 Poems - Please Remember 9/11

RISE AGAIN
By Christian Messer

As September eleventh comes around,
we remember the two beautiful towers that fell to the ground.
It was an act of terrorism this we know,
and the tears of America now show.
This country is going to war,
more of our woman and men will be lost for sure.
Now time has passed about a year,
from when we lost those lives so dear.
This time will we just sit and watch this war?
Or will we stand and fight for something more?
Will our country stand and fight for justice?
Yes it will and not for just this.
We will fight for the lives that were lost,
and for the peace and security that they cost.
The deep water that seems to surround us now will soon be drained,
and America will rise again to reign.

---------------------------------------------

I lit a candle outside...
trying to remember so many names......
remembering how many died......
and so many families left unsaid....
some still wishing for that one day to come...
they will get a call saying they found their loved one...

---------------------------------------------

A NEW DAY IN AMERICA
By Jason Carl Johnson

Today I saw a flame arise from ashes cold and gray
Today I heard a nation lift up its voice to pray

Today I saw a country humbled before its God
Today I heard a free land its liberty applaud

Today I saw a flag wave from every porch and lawn
Today I heard a nation sing the old forgotten songs

Today I saw a brother in every stranger's face
Today I heard a single voice from every tongue and race

Today I saw a people stand with arms and hearts entwined
Today I heard their voices speak with unity of mind

Today I saw a country so distinct from yesterday
O that everyday in America could be just like today!

© 2001 Jason Carl Johnson

---------------------------------------------

THE DAY OF TERROR
By Caitlin Clark

It started off cloudless and blue,
the day would hold terror and nobody knew.
People went to school and work,
I hope Osama enjoyed his little quirk.
Students stand on chairs
to see why the teacher stares.
Teachers told their classes
what happened to those great masses.
Students worry,
everyone in great fury.
Everyone wonders,
"Are they safe in those Towers?"
Now I sit and stare
at the land that's now so bare.
What did we do to deserve this?
Why this?
Why us?
One thing that we all know for sure
is that United We Stand Forever More!

---------------------------------------------

SEPTEMBER ELEVENTH

The day we will never forget
A tragic date that most of us regret.
I feel nothing more than pity and anger for those who have brought
Danger to so many lives.
Look at all that's left behind:
Husbands and wives,
Homes with children left with nothing but tears falling from their
eyes.
Just remember;
God will save us from our fears,
So go on and wipe those tears.

---------------------------------------------

THE ATTACK
By Janine Susag

Hi, my name is Janine Susag and I'm fourteen years old. Shortly after
9.11.01, I wrote this poem to express my feelings towards what had
happened. Now I pass it on to you so that other people can view it and
see that I understand.

Always and Forever,

Janine Susag, 14

I watched the unbelievable scene in despair
Listened to the screams that filled the eerie morning air
It seemed as if it was all a horrific story
And all I could do was watch and worry

I shuddered as I watched the planes crash
Creating in each building a great huge gash
I looked at an old picture of the towers proud and tall
Then shuddered again as I watched them fall

This wasn't the end of the horrible scene
Not the last thing I will have seen
Soon there were people jumping into death's arms
And others rushed to medics to escape all harm

I sat down on the ground, eyes glued to the screen
Wondering who did this, who could be so mean?
I wished that there was someway I could help
But knew that there wasn't, I was too young to help

I never thought the US would be attacked
We were invulnerable; could not be harmed
Though the number missing is more each time counted
America has hope, for we have united

---------------------------------------------

THE TOWERS
A poem from an ex-New Yorker
By: EReyes1938@aol.com

Remember the towers
the saddest day in America
when planes changed course
bringing death from above.
The towers
which once stood
with pride and reliance
crumbled as wounded giants.
Thousands of lives
were lost in minutes
leaving scars w/deep roots.
The resolve of teams
was necessary and immediate
and may people were spared.
We now strike
at those responsible
even though it seems impossible.
Survivors lives
may never be the same
but we know God can heal broken hearts.

NEVER FORGET!

Sept. 11, 2001

Two Thousand One ~ Nine Eleven (2001-911)

Two thousand one, nine eleven
Three thousand plus arrive in heaven
As they pass through the gate,
Thousands more appear in wait

A bearded man with stovepipe hat
Steps forward saying, "Lets sit, lets chat"
They settle down in seats of clouds
A man named Martin shouts out proud
"I have a dream!" and once he did
The Newcomer said, "Your dream still lives."

Groups of soldiers in blue and gray
Others in khaki, and green then say
"We're from Bull Run, Yorktown, the Maine"
The Newcomer said, "You died not in vain."

From a man on sticks one could hear
"The only thing we have to fear.
The Newcomer said, "We know the rest,
Trust us sir, we've passed that test."

"Courage doesn't hide in caves
You can't bury freedom, in a grave,"
The Newcomers had heard this voice before
A distinct Yankees twang from Hyannis port shores

A silence fell within the mist
Somehow the Newcomer knew that this
Meant time had come for her to say
What was in the hearts of the five thousand plus that day

"Back on Earth, we wrote reports,
Watched our children play in sports
Worked our gardens, sang our songs
Went to church and clipped coupons

We smiled, we laughed,
we cried, we fought
Unlike you, great we're not"

The tall man in the stovepipe hat
Stood and said, "Don't talk like that!
Look at your country, look and see
You died for freedom, just like me"

Then, before them all appeared a scene
Of rubbled streets and twisted beams
Death, destruction, smoke and dust
And people working just 'cause they must

Hauling ash, lifting stones,
Knee deep in hell, but not alone
"Look! Blackman, Whiteman, Brownman, Yellowman
Side by side helping their fellow man!"

So said Martin, as he watched the scene
"Even from nightmares, can be born a dream."
Down below three firemen raised
The colors high into ashen haze

The soldiers above had seen it before
On Iwo Jima back in '45
The man on sticks studied everything closely
Then shared his perceptions on what he saw mostly

"I see pain, I see tears,
I see sorrow -- but I don't see fear."
"You left behind husbands and wives
Daughters and sons and so many lives
Are suffering now because of this wrong
But look very closely. You're not really gone.

All of those people, even those who've never met you
All of their lives, they'll never forget you
Don't you see what has happened?
Don't you see what you've done?
You've brought them together, together as one.

With that the man in the stovepipe hat said
"Take my hand," and from there he led
Three thousand plus heroes, Newcomers to heaven
On this day, two thousand one, nine eleven

Author UNKNOWN (What a shame!)

September 11, 2007, will soon be approaching. On this day, please wear
red, white and blue to work or school to show your support for those who
lost their lives on 9~11~01 and to honor the heroes who worked to save
them and the families left behind. At noon your time on September11,
2007, no matter where you are or what you are doing, stop, put your hand
on your heart, and say the Pledge of Allegiance out loud or to yourself
and say a prayer for our nation.

In addition, for those of us who drive to work, please drive with your
headlights on to also give honor and remembrance to those who perished
on September 11th.

If all of us do this together in every time zone round the world, we
will have a powerful chain of thoughts surrounding us. Please keep this
going to your friends and family.

By September 11, 2007 hopefully enough people will have read this and
will join together in unity.
Caroline S. - 11 Sep 2007 21:51 GMT
<snip 9-11 story>

> Peace to the victims and healing to their families.
Amen to that.

DH and I at the time were living in an apartment less than a mile
south of the Pentagon. After watching the attack on the towers on TV,
we headed out to go to work on that perfect clear blue sky day. We
went underground to catch the metro (just one stop before the Pentagon
stop).  When we pulled into the Petagon stop, a man ran onto the train
yelling that the Pentagon was on fire. Someone else said "It's not a
fire, it was an explosion."  Most people in the train car just
shrugged it off.  But as the train pulled out onto the bridge going
over the Potomac river, we saw the huge black column of smoke rising
from the Pentagon. By the time we got to our stop in DC, Metro was
announcing that the Pentagon stop was closed down.  Downtown DC was
chaos, cars jamming the streets. DH And I worked across the street
from each other. By the time we got to our respective offices, we had
decided to turn around and go home. We called for a cab, since the
metro wouldn't get us all the way home. But the streets were jammed,
so no cab could come.  We finally got back on the Metro figuring we'd
go as far as we could and maybe get a cab or a bus.  We sat
underground in the tunnel leading up the Foggy Bottom stop (the State
Department) for a really long time. Nobody on the train said a word.
We did finally get home, and the smoke smell lingered for days. I
cried in front of the TV for a while, then had to turn it off. And I
turned to the computer, and everntually to this group...
******
I remembered today, that after that event is when the catslaves yahoo
group was started, and when many of us starting chatting online using
Yahoo messenger.  We've been able to forge international friendships
through conversation, not just story posting. And that is worth
celebrating.

Hugs to all,
Caroline S.
Marina - 12 Sep 2007 03:38 GMT
> I remembered today, that after that event is when the catslaves yahoo
> group was started, and when many of us starting chatting online using
> Yahoo messenger.  We've been able to forge international friendships
> through conversation, not just story posting. And that is worth
> celebrating.

I miss those chats. I haven't signed onto Yahoo myself much lately, and
neither do other rpca'ers, I think. What a pity. I had many a nice
one-on-one chat with you, and with Tish and Krista. Group chats with others.

On 9/11 (or 11/9, as we would write it), I didn't know anything had
happened until I came home from work and turned on the computer and
started reading rpca. Vicky had posted her condolences to the American
members, but she didn't mention what had happened, so I turned on the TV
and saw those images. They were replayed for the rest of that night and
the following days. It felt completely unreal, as if I was watching some
catastrophe movie. I talked to my mum on the phone that night. We were
talking about something completely unrelated when I suddenly just burst
out crying. Mum knew immediately why.

Signature

Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.

polonca12000 - 17 Sep 2007 22:07 GMT
> I miss those chats. I haven't signed onto Yahoo myself much lately, and
> neither do other rpca'ers, I think. What a pity. I had many a nice
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> talking about something completely unrelated when I suddenly just burst
> out crying. Mum knew immediately why.

I miss Yahoo chats too.
Purrs,
Polonca and Soncek
Sherry - 11 Sep 2007 22:52 GMT
> It was a brilliant morning, and I was on my way out the door to vote in the
> mayoral primary.  I had the radio on, and it so happens that my radio
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> Peace to the victims and healing to their families.

I've had a lot of somber thoughts today, too; and you were in them. I
sort of understand
"where you're coming from" so to speak, because I have a friend in NY.
It was everyone's
tragedy but in many ways it is so different for those to whom this
happened in their
'own back yard. She grew up in Queens, and like you, also mourned the
loss in a
deeply personal way. I remember her grieving for the loss of "her
skyline", on top of
everything else. (that is not as selfish as it sounds, you would have
to know her probably
to realize that it is not)
Relating experience from our own sucker-punch in 1995, I also
understand that there's a definite
division of "before" and "after". Things are never the same.
Sympathy and hugs also to our friends in and near D.C., who always and
still seemed overshadowed by
the enormity of the tragedy in NY, and loved ones of the passengers
who died in PA.

Sherry
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 11 Sep 2007 23:30 GMT
> I've had a lot of somber thoughts today, too; and you were in them.

I've been thinking of it a lot today, too. It's odd, because we've had
several Sept. 11ths since the one 6 years ago, but maybe because this
one is also on a Tuesday, it feels closer to the original? It was
unnerving to come into work and see "Tue Sep 11" on my telephone's
LCD.

I live in California, and I keep late hours, so I didn't even find out
about it until many hours after it had happened. But despite my relative
remoteness from the events, I do divide time between "before" and "after".
It was a national trauma. And many things changed in this country (as
well as abroad) because of it. We all talk of the "pre-9/11" and "post-9/11"
world, mentality, culture. Not since the Kennedy assassination had anything
had such a devastating effect on this entire nation - and this superseded
that, IMO.

People here posted about crying and getting angry, as they found out
about the events. I didn't have either of those reactions, but instead
I had a month-long anxiety attack. I just kept imagining myself being
one of those people, but I almost couldn't imagine the terror they
must have felt. To this day, that is where I go most easily whenever
I think about it. I can't imagine what kind of horror is so intolerable,
that jumping off the top of a 110-story building is preferable.

On the positive side, that event taught me to value the people I care
about more than anything else. (And by "people", I don't just mean
*human* people. :)) The first person I called that day was my sister,
and we're not even that close. I had to talk to someone in my family.
When she answered the phone, I just said, "Hi." And she said, "... Yeah."
Like, no reason to ask why I was calling!

There's a very poignant quote that I think sums it up:

 "If we discovered we only had five minutes left to say all that we
  wanted to say, every telephone booth would be occupied by people
  calling other people to stammer that they loved them."
                                             -- Christopher Morley

This was pre-9/11, and apparently, also pre-cellphone, but he pretty
much had it nailed.

Joyce
Kreisleriana - 11 Sep 2007 23:54 GMT
>> It was a brilliant morning, and I was on my way out the door to vote in
>> the
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> to know her probably
> to realize that it is not)

Not at all.  As I said before, my brother and I saw the building go up as
kids, and I saw it every day from the subway for almost thirty years.  When
you are in Manhattan, it can sometimes be easy to get lost, but when you saw
the towers, you knew you were facing south, and you could orient yourself.
It has been a hole in the sky, a visual scar on our landscape.
jmcquown - 12 Sep 2007 00:24 GMT
>>> It was a brilliant morning, and I was on my way out the door to
>>> vote in the
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> and you could orient yourself. It has been a hole in the sky, a
> visual scar on our landscape.

I always get teary-eyed when I see older movies that show the NY skyline,
with those two magnificent towers still standing.

Jill
Adrian A - 12 Sep 2007 13:15 GMT
>>>> It was a brilliant morning, and I was on my way out the door to
>>>> vote in the
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>
> Jill

I try to avoid those movies, I find that sight very disturbing now. :-(
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jmcquown - 12 Sep 2007 16:54 GMT
>>>>> It was a brilliant morning, and I was on my way out the door to
>>>>> vote in the
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>>>>> plane flew right into the
>>>>> World Trade Center.

>> I always get teary-eyed when I see older movies that show the NY
>> skyline, with those two magnificent towers still standing.
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> I try to avoid those movies, I find that sight very disturbing now.
> :-(

But how can you know they're going to show that view?  It always sneaks up
on me and at first I'm startled, then I'm incredibly sad.
Adrian A - 12 Sep 2007 17:32 GMT
>>>>>> It was a brilliant morning, and I was on my way out the door to
>>>>>> vote in the
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> But how can you know they're going to show that view?  It always
> sneaks up on me and at first I'm startled, then I'm incredibly sad.

I avoid anything made before 2001 that's likely to show New York.
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Sheelagh >o< - 12 Sep 2007 17:37 GMT
> It was a brilliant morning, and I was on my way out the door to vote in the
> mayoral primary.  I had the radio on, and it so happens that my radio
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>
> Peace to the victims and healing to their families.

Peace Purrs & Best wishes to all concerned in this terrible disaster.
Sheelagh>"o"<
Shiral - 13 Sep 2007 18:01 GMT
> It was a brilliant morning, and I was on my way out the door to vote in the
> mayoral primary.  I had the radio on, and it so happens that my radio
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>
> Peace to the victims and healing to their families.

Six years ago Tuesday morning, I had turned on my radio to the local
classical musical station and was fixing breakfast, sort of half-
listening while trying to make my brain wake up. To say I'm not a
morning person is to put things very mildly.  I don't turn on the TV
first thing in the morning as there's never a shortage of bad news,
and I'm not ready for it at that time of day. That was why I had no
idea of what had happened on the East Coast.  The radio was playing a
rather somber piece of music, but I attatched no particular
significance to it.  I had just poured my cup of tea when the
announcer came on the radio saying  "The World Trade Center is gone."
That was literally my first inkling that anything WAS wrong or out of
the ordinary, that day. My first thought was  "Gone? Where did it GO?"
Over the course of that day, I heard the total story of the planes,
the WTC and the Pentagon, and could hardly take the horror of it on
board. Bless the courage of those passengers aboard that Pennsylvania
flight.

   I live under the flyover patterns for two local airports, and am
so used to the sounds of planes flying over that I had stopped
noticing them until those two days. The quiet was eerie and everything
looked normal here on the West Coast, but felt ominous. The attacks
were all anyone was talking about, of course. Then when I heard the
first plane fly over six years ago today, I was shocked at how loud it
sounded, as if they were about to land on a neighbor's roof. But I was
so happy for that little bit of normality restored.

I will always regret though, that those attacks were used as an excuse
for the Iraq war while Bin Laden himself remains free. "Bin Laden dead
or alive" was the first and last time I agreed with the Prez on just
about anything.

Melissa
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 13 Sep 2007 19:42 GMT
> Six years ago Tuesday morning, I had turned on my radio to the local
> classical musical station and was fixing breakfast, sort of half-
> listening while trying to make my brain wake up. To say I'm not a
> morning person is to put things very mildly.  I don't turn on the TV
> first thing in the morning as there's never a shortage of bad news,
> and I'm not ready for it at that time of day.

I can totally relate to this! Which is why, although Democracy Now is
on the radio during my commute time, I cannot listen to it. I tried to
a few times, but all I heard was Guantanamo, Abu Graibe (sp?), etc. I
just can't cope with torture stories before I've even had my first cup
of tea. So, it's Terry Gross for me. :)

(Note to non-US'ans - these are both morning talk radio shows. The first
is a fairly hard-hitting news program, the second, interviews with people
in the arts, sciences, and sometimes politics. The latter is mentally
stimulating and entertaining, and does not overwhelm with horror when
one's brain is not yet fully functioning!)

> announcer came on the radio saying  "The World Trade Center is gone."
> That was literally my first inkling that anything WAS wrong or out of
> the ordinary, that day. My first thought was  "Gone? Where did it GO?"

That got a grim chuckle out of me...

That day was one of my work-at-home days, and sometimes I began my workday
rather late. That "morning" I settled down to my computer about 12:30 PM,
logged onto work email, and dialed into my voice mail. At the same time as
I was hearing a voice mail from a friend, saying, "Just wondering how you're
doing on this most bizarre of days," I was seeing the subject list of work
emails, all saying things like "Tragedy in New York", "Horror in NYC", etc -
including one from the CEO. What in god's name had happened??

After reading all those emails (the CEO's post had told everyone to go
home and be with their families), I went to the CNN website, and from
there, to my television, where I sat almost not moving for about 6 hours.

My first thought was that it was another nut job like Timothy McVeigh
who'd been responsible for this attack. So I was actually surprised when
they said it was the work of Saudi fundamentalists (a different breed of
nut job). If I'd been thinking clearly, I would have realized that some
pathetic survivalist type in his bunker, filled as it might be with all
manner of automatic weaponry, would nonetheless not have been able to
bring down both towers of the WTC.

> I will always regret though, that those attacks were used as an excuse
> for the Iraq war while Bin Laden himself remains free.

"Osama bin Forgotten" is one slogan I've heard.

Joyce
Ann - 13 Sep 2007 21:37 GMT
People have been sharing where they were and how they heard about the world
trade center. Here is mine.

At the time I was working at Michael's arts and crafts store in the frame
shop. It was separate room in the back of the store. Another co-worker and I
were in very early that day. We heard on the radio that was on in the store
about the first plane hitting the tower. As many people thought and so did
I, that it was a small plane and little damage was done. The radio station
went back to playing their music. A few minutes later more news reports and
from them on it was all coverage of the towers,.

A short time later we heard about a plane hitting the Pentagon. My co-worker
had a relative working there. I will never forget the look on her face.
First shook and then worry for a family member. She got on the phone and
started call her family. She did fine out that her relative in D.C was okay.
We all tried to work but kept stopping to listen to the reports on the
radio. We even had a few customers in the store that day.

When I got home at 2pm I saw the first news pictures of what happened. I
live about a 2 hour drive from New York City.

On another note about 9-11 and the fire fighters.

Our local fire department had created a fire fighter memorial garden for the
434 fire fighters that lost their lives that day. We donated our services to
laser engrave 2 pieces of glass with all the names. Another local business
donated there services to sand blast into a granet monument ( graves stone)
a picture of 2 fire trucks with an American flag between them.

Ann

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>> the
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>
> Melissa
Lesley - 14 Sep 2007 10:33 GMT
>People have been sharing where they were and how they heard about the world
>trade center. Here is mine.

I was working a late shift so I had a very late lunch, I'd gone to the
Student Union bar and got a sandwich and a paper, I'd just sat down and
someone shouted at the manager to turn the television on. So we all saw that
a plane had hit the first tower, everyone agreed that it looked like a small
plane, a Cessna or something like that and it was probably just a tragic
accident, People started to look away then the one person who was still
watching literally screamed "There's another one!"

We all stared in complete silence as we saw the second plane and realised
that it wasn't a small plane, when it hit several people started shaking and
someone started crying

I went back to the shop and told the other staff what was going down, Jeff
whose dad had been in the army and he had spent most of his childhood and
teenage years in various states of the USA sat with his head buried in his
hands for some minutes and then said "This gives him the excuse he needs to
press the button, he's always wanted to do that because his dad didn't"

A little later someone upstairs from us leaned over the balcony and shouted
"they've come down!" We knew what he was talking about

At some point I called Dave who unsually didn't have the telly on so hadn't
seen the news.

London was eerie that evening, people just walking round looking completely
shocked, I stopped in my local pub and they had the news on (the first, last
and only time I think), everyone was just sitting there staring at the
television and shaking their heads.

I went home and Dave was staring at the television so I just sat down and
joined him, we sat there for an age without saying anything

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Granby - 15 Sep 2007 05:52 GMT
You wanna know what makes my blood boil?  I work at a Rest Area and this
year on 9/11 the flags were at lowered.  There is a tourism desk where I
work.  You would not believe how many people asked about the why the flag
was lowered and when told said something like, "Oh yeah, I guess that was
today." Don't know how disrespectful people can be or what it will take to
make them realize just what can happen.  Needs to happen is some folks back
yard before they understand.  Gramby
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>>world
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>
> Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Sheelagh >o< - 15 Sep 2007 14:29 GMT
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> >trade center. Here is mine.
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>"This gives him the excuse he needs to
> press the button, he's always wanted to do that because his dad didn't"

I am a newsy person & often have the T.V going in the background
whilst I go about my bits and pieces. On 9/11, it was the same as any
other day. It was dinner time, so I sat down to watch sky news, &
around 5 Min's after I started watching the lunch time news, there was
a break in the report, initially, it was @ the bottom of the screen
"Unconfirmed reports that the world trade center has been hit by a
plane, we will bring you more details as we have them".  Less than a
minute later, we had the pictures. I knew immediately what had
happened, even though It wasn't confirmed. It was what we had all been
waiting for- Now it had happened. What I didn't expect was the second
plane in the other tower, another into the pentagon. I seem to
remember another plane too. Am I mistaken?

I was utterly gob smacked. It was almost inconceivable that they could
do this in today's world. In my naive mind, I thought that there would
be fighter jets just waiting for this to happen. How silly of me! Like
Lesley, the day became a very eerie experience. We live very close to
a USAF Base, & quite a few people who live in the village are American
people. There was panic, worry about relatives of course, & the
Doctors surgery set up a counseling session for anyone who felt the
need to talk about it. We really did feel for those who had family in
NY, others that worked in the pentagon, especially one family, who's
husband worked there & perished in this atrocity. She only lives a few
doors down from us, & we knew both of them very well. It was almost
surreal! This event was unprecedented, so as you can imagine, it
lasted for several weeks, until everyone had either contacted loved
ones, or found out thier fate. A dreadful atrocity!!

As you all know, since then, in the UK, we have had our own
experiences with Al qaeda & thier jihad. I know it hasn't been a
fraction as destructive as 9/11 was, but for those affected, it has
forever changed our lives. Thankfully, we got a bit of closure on
those that wreaked havoc in London. They were rounded up, or died in
trying to escape. It doesn't make up for any of the damage caused to
other people's lives, but it does prove that if you do the crime, you
will also do the time (in prison). I would love to think that this has
acted as a deterrent for others, but sadly, I don't think it does.
Anyone who is prepared to take their won life to kill others is
deranged & can't be stopped unless our faiths work together to spot
potential future extremists. Most Muslims that *I* know, are peace
loving kind generous & nice people. It is only the mad few that are
hell bent on destruction of the western world....

I feel for the families of both the UK & the USA who have lost loved
ones through terrorist attacks. Nothing will ever make up for what
they have lost, but it would be nice to think that we have learnt some
lessons in thinking that we were invulnerable, because we aren't. Both
events prove this.
Sheelagh >*o*<
annoyed@net.spammers - 14 Sep 2007 03:02 GMT
I received a call at work from my wife who heard the news about a plane
hitting the tower.  We also figured a commuter plane.  But several of us
went to the cafeteria and turned on the TV and saw the gaping hole that said
to us that it was NOT a small plane.  Like most of the world we were in
total shock at the ongoing attack and murder of our people, not knowing who
was to blame.  When the first tower crumbled all hell broke loose in our
office.  

I worked for $WEMAKECOPRADIOS at the time and the management there
immediately got on the horn to upper management in corporate HQ to initiate
a disaster response to bring thousands of 2-way portable radios and several
transportable repeater rooms with towers to our office for programming and
delivery.  NYPD and FDNY are two of our major customers and our office was
our company's division HQ for the region.  

We had a couple of our salespeople in the city that day and they saw the
towers come down, not on TV but down the street from them. During the next
week plus our building was staffed 24x7 with an armed guard as tractor
trailer loads of equipment was brought in from across the country, employees
unloaded trucks in a "bucket brigade" line, unpacked boxes, inventoried and
programmed radios, charged batteries & spare batteries, repackaged equipment
and re-loaded trucks for delivery to NYC.

My wife worked with a sister of a Port Authority police officer who was also
an EMT.  He was stationed at one of the tunnels but rushed to the towers to
help.  To this day not one piece with his DNA has been identified.

In a chilling thought about our lives the week before, it was Friday
September 7th, 2001 that my wife was sworn in as a U.S. citizen - she was
born in Canada and came here on a K-1 visa to marry me.  What was then
called INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service) assigned her swearing-in
ceremony to be held at the Pearl Street courthouse in Manhattan and to be
there at 9:00 AM.  You were given an appointment, not a choice, so we took
what was given to us.  We took the PATH train into WTC and were just leaving
the Towers on Friday at about the time of day the first plane hit on the
following Tuesday.  The government could have just as easily given us an
appointment on 9/11 as on 9/7.  We even stopped by the Millennium Tower
hotel across from the WTC to check out the menu for lunch but went elsewhere
to celebrate.  Then we went to the post office nearby and submitted her
naturalization certificate for a U.S. passport, going home with no proof
that she was a citizen, and days later wondering if her paperwork was still
in the post office which was closed due to the attack (it wasn't and we
received her U.S. passport in a few weeks).

I was always in awe at the size of the antenna mast on the WTC and worried
about what would happen if it had a structural failure and fell to the
ground. Little did any of us know what would happen scant days later.
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polonca12000 - 17 Sep 2007 22:06 GMT
> It was a brilliant morning, and I was on my way out the door to vote in the
> mayoral primary.  I had the radio on, and it so happens that my radio
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>
> Peace to the victims and healing to their families.

Lots and lots of purrs,
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