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happyseducedgirl@yahoo.com - 07 Sep 2007 21:49 GMT
I am considering moving into a room share situation.  I have two
medium sized cats.  One has been around dogs and is fine and the other
is a question mark.  The house I'm looking at has a 4 and 1/2 month
old Rottweiler Terrier mix.  The owner is training him well but I am
just wondering WHAT THE CHANCES ARE that it will attack my cats and/or
never get along with them and visa versa.

PLEASE HELP!  I have to tell them today if I'm taking the room.

Thanks!

Happy
Will in New Haven - 07 Sep 2007 21:54 GMT
On Sep 7, 4:49 pm, happyseducedg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am considering moving into a room share situation.  I have two
> medium sized cats.  One has been around dogs and is fine and the other
> is a question mark.  The house I'm looking at has a 4 and 1/2 month
> old Rottweiler Terrier mix.  The owner is training him well but I am
> just wondering WHAT THE CHANCES ARE that it will attack my cats and/or
> never get along with them and visa versa.

The dog is young enough that good training and the presence of calm
cats should be easily enough to keep him from being a danger to the
cats. It will be up to the cats to provide the calm cats part.

Will in New Haven

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> PLEASE HELP!  I have to tell them today if I'm taking the room.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Happy
Daniel Mahoney - 07 Sep 2007 22:24 GMT
> On Sep 7, 4:49 pm, happyseducedg...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> Will in New Haven

I second that. If the person you're thinking of moving in with is truly
training the puppy well, then they ought to be fine together. You'll just
need to be sure that you and he are both very diligent about watching them
together until they're well adjusted to each other.

Lots of cats and dogs get to be the best of friends.
Kreisleriana - 07 Sep 2007 23:51 GMT
>> On Sep 7, 4:49 pm, happyseducedg...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> Lots of cats and dogs get to be the best of friends.

True, but I would hope that the dogs' owner would really be very attentive
and on top of the puppy's training.  A Rottweiler-terrier mix might be a
very sweet puppy, but also potentially highly energetic, high prey-drive,
willful and *strong.*  All hands need to be on deck for this.
Yowie - 08 Sep 2007 00:06 GMT
>>> On Sep 7, 4:49 pm, happyseducedg...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> very sweet puppy, but also potentially highly energetic, high prey-drive,
> willful and *strong.*  All hands need to be on deck for this.

I wouldn't for a second recommend leaving them unsupervised whilst they
adjust to each other, but if the doggy is still a puppy and the cats are
adult, one swipe of razorsharp claws across the nose is almost always a
life-long lesson as to who the Boss is around the place. Be just as worried
for the dog as for the cats - a cat in full fight mode can seriously injure
a curious but well intentioned puppy as well. I am not so fondly remembering
Shmogg's reaction to Fluffy when we bought Fluffy home as a puppy.

Also remember that the cats are going into the *dogs* territory and not the
other way around. That will change the dynamics. Set up a safe cat-only area
that the dog is not allowed into, and hte cats can retreat to whenever they
like. They need their own territory too.

Good Luck!

Yowie
Sherry - 08 Sep 2007 06:13 GMT
> >> On Sep 7, 4:49 pm, happyseducedg...@yahoo.com wrote:
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That was my first thought. Terrriers are natural cat-chasers. It's
instinctual, because it's their
nature to chase small rodents.  If the cats *run* from the puppy,
there will be a problem. It's hard
to train a pup out of what he basically was born to do.  Not that it
can't be done, and it will surely
help if the cats stand their ground with him.
Wish you didn't have to rush into this. It would be so helpful to have
a "trial run" and just see first
hand how all the little furries behave with each other.

Sherry
Kreisleriana - 08 Sep 2007 16:10 GMT
>> >> On Sep 7, 4:49 pm, happyseducedg...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> a "trial run" and just see first
> hand how all the little furries behave with each other.

Frankly this mix does have me worried.  I'm imagining a Rottie's
territoriality and strength combined with a terrier's energy, persistence
and prey drive.  I''m not saying all is lost, but I think we've all agreed
that there needs to be conscientious supervision, and a safe place for the
kitty.

I could be wrong and the puppy be a total pushover for a kitty. Big,
protective dogs like Rotties often are-- the kitty is another family member
to protect.

But  still better safe than sorry.
jmcquown - 08 Sep 2007 17:18 GMT
>>>> On Sep 7, 4:49 pm, happyseducedg...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> Sherry

And it's a Rottweiler/Terrier mix.  Rotties aren't exactly the most gentle
dogs in the world.  I'd be worried about this, puppy or not, to tell the
truth.

Jill
Granby - 08 Sep 2007 01:27 GMT
So long as you have a "safe place" be it cage or room until you are sure
they are getting along.  They will probably have an easier time adjusting
than the humans.

>> On Sep 7, 4:49 pm, happyseducedg...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> [quoted text muted]
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> Lots of cats and dogs get to be the best of friends.
Sue - 09 Sep 2007 02:47 GMT
> I am considering moving into a room share situation.  I have two
> medium sized cats.  One has been around dogs and is fine and the other
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>
> Happy

Like the others, I strongly advise caution.  I had to give up a rescue
kitten once because she would not leave my very well trained rather large
dog alone (feral barn kitten used to large furry things, absolutely
fearless). Tthe obedience-trained dog that was raised from a puppy with an
older cat who knew better and wouldn't bother the dog, well, the dog just
had to snap at this never-ending torment.  The dog loved my old kitty and
wouldn't ever think to harm her but the cat didn't bother the dog (unless
the dog wanted to be bothered :)

Having been in the no-place-to-live situation I feel for you so much!  And
in this case you have the reverse.  It could work and just because of the
breeding of the dog you can't be sure it won't work.  This is true

http://www.poochdogpark.com/hurricane_rescue_story.htm

those are the kinds of dogs that normally hunt that kind of smaller furry :)
It can happen.  If you have no choice but to go into such a situation make
sure the cats have a high and/or small (little door) escape route and don't
leave them unsupervised until you are sure. The cats are older and wiser,
no? Hoping for the best for you and your kitties!
Adrian A - 09 Sep 2007 11:24 GMT
>> I am considering moving into a room share situation.  I have two
>> medium sized cats.  One has been around dogs and is fine and the
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> The cats are older and wiser, no? Hoping for the best for you and
> your kitties!

I suspect as the OP has not responded to this thread that he/she may be a
troll, I thought that was a possibilty right at the start because of the
email address.
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MaryL - 09 Sep 2007 12:11 GMT
>>> I am considering moving into a room share situation.  I have two
>>> medium sized cats.  One has been around dogs and is fine and the
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> troll, I thought that was a possibilty right at the start because of the
> email address.

I have been wondering this same thing after I noticed the email address,
although I did respond to the identical message on h+b (same message with
different title).

MaryL
Granby - 09 Sep 2007 15:22 GMT
So, the deadline has passed and I am reallly wondering what you decided,
MOVE OR NOT TO MOVE, that was the question. Am sure it wasn't an easy
decision.

>>>> I am considering moving into a room share situation.  I have two
>>>> medium sized cats.  One has been around dogs and is fine and the
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>
> MaryL
MaryL - 09 Sep 2007 16:41 GMT
> So, the deadline has passed and I am reallly wondering what you decided,
> MOVE OR NOT TO MOVE, that was the question. Am sure it wasn't an easy
> decision.

Your respons showed up as a reply to me, but I wasn't the one who asked the
question.

MaryL
Granby - 09 Sep 2007 22:49 GMT
Sorry, knew it was not you.
That visual thing again.  Sometimes it is hard to figure what is what when
you want to add your two cents worth.  Can't promise it won't happen again,
wish I could.

>> So, the deadline has passed and I am reallly wondering what you decided,
>> MOVE OR NOT TO MOVE, that was the question. Am sure it wasn't an easy
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>
> MaryL
MaryL - 10 Sep 2007 01:20 GMT
> Sorry, knew it was not you.
> That visual thing again.  Sometimes it is hard to figure what is what when
> you want to add your two cents worth.  Can't promise it won't happen
> again, wish I could.

No problem.  I think most of us have done that on occasion.  I sometimes
draw attention to it (as I did here) if I want to make sure the error won't
go forward.  That is, I do it so someone who reads the messages "down the
line" won't think I was the OP.

MaryL
jmcquown - 09 Sep 2007 16:35 GMT
>> I suspect as the OP has not responded to this thread that he/she may
>> be a troll, I thought that was a possibilty right at the start
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>
> MaryL

That pretty much clinches it for me.  People who post the same message in
multiple groups but don't ever reply are just trolling.  At any rate, I
wouldn't move cats into a situation where there was a Rottie/Terrier mix,
puppy or no puppy.  No one can supervise 24/7.  You have to sleep sometime
and you have to leave the house sometimes.  Unless the puppy is always
crated during those periods of time, it's a disaster waiting to happen,
IMHO.

Jill
Granby - 09 Sep 2007 22:46 GMT
You know, I haven't been around enough to always recogenize trolls but, I
know a ding bat when I hear one.  With all the help that was offered and no
answer.  I figured it was someone who couldn't make up their mind to put our
a fire if their butt was burning.  Gramby
>>> I suspect as the OP has not responded to this thread that he/she may
>>> be a troll, I thought that was a possibilty right at the start
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>
> Jill
Kreisleriana - 10 Sep 2007 13:02 GMT
>>> I suspect as the OP has not responded to this thread that he/she may
>>> be a troll, I thought that was a possibilty right at the start
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Jill

Well, I maintain if someone asks for help, there's nothing wrong in offering
it.  The wrong is on the side of the instigator or troll, or whatever you
want to call them.  You can feel a bit stupid after offering help to a
troll, but there's really no reason to feel that way.  There's nothing wrong
with giving the benefit of the doubt.  The helper is *never* wrong.  It's
the twerps and twits  who abuse other's helpful nature.  And they know that.

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