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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / September 2007Dot and Buster's truce
Last week, Dot's wanderings into Buster's territory caused some chases and fights, but it seems now that they've become weary and wary of each other's fighting abilities, and now mostly posture and bluff. At the same time, it's become the time of year for the squirrels to gather acorns from the many oak trees in the back yard, and Buster's decided to take over Dot's chair as his lookout spot. So Dot sometimes became displaced into the dining room and living room. The end result is that these two seem to have traded easements in their territories. And that gives Dot access to the rest of the house! As Dot's become more adventurous, I notice that Buster's beginning to imitate her. I think he's sometimes a bit jealous of her and wants to do anything interesting that she does. If she scratches a scratching post, Buster will scratch it too a few moments after. Dot also taught him to sleep by or between my legs at night, so now she'll mostly sleep by my head. They're a pretty squabbly pair of bedmates with each other though. Dot hasn't had any peeing issues lately. She seems pretty particular about where she goes, so I've been setting up litterboxes that are to her liking. She likes to pee in a shallow litterbox, and poop in a covered litterbox. If she pees in the covered litterbox, I usually suspect that she found something wrong with the shallow litterbox (like Buster's just used it). She seems to have lost some of her litterbox shyness - she'll casually pee in her box even with me and Buster around. On an unrelated note, Dot is going to TED again tomorrow. Since she's started to hang out with me more, I've become suspicious of her chin. She's always had an overly prominent chin, which gives her a pensive look, but comparing it to Buster's svelte chin, it looks abnormally swollen to me. It also has some scabs that I suspected was acne, and I had been cleaning the food dishes daily lately with either soapy water or rubbing alcohol. But the scabs and swelling reminded me all of a sudden of Betty's jaw cancer, which is why I want to have it examined. > Last week, Dot's wanderings into Buster's territory caused some chases > and fights, but it seems now that they've become weary and wary of > each other's fighting abilities, and now mostly posture and bluff. That's excellent progress! Sounds like they're learning to tolerate each other's presence. > As Dot's become more adventurous, I notice that Buster's beginning to > imitate her. I think he's sometimes a bit jealous of her and wants to > do anything interesting that she does. If she scratches a scratching > post, Buster will scratch it too a few moments after. Dot also taught > him to sleep by or between my legs at night, so now she'll mostly > sleep by my head. I guess this is where the term "copycat" came from. :) It always cracks me up when cats do that. Mine are forever copying each others' sleeping positions. On the other hand, with the scratching post, Buster might be asserting his territoriality, by scratching it after she does. My cats get very territorial about the scratching posts. Roxy has been known to try to chase Smudge away from one of them, the little brat. > They're a pretty squabbly pair of bedmates with > each other though. That's too bad, but hopefully, they'll calm down in that area, too. Bedtime is about the only place all of mine will get along. I will often wake up to find all of them curled up on the bed, each within two feet of the others, snoozing peacefully. > Dot hasn't had any peeing issues lately. She seems pretty particular > about where she goes, so I've been setting up litterboxes that are to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > litterbox shyness - she'll casually pee in her box even with me and > Buster around. She sounds a lot less stressed-out! > On an unrelated note, Dot is going to TED again tomorrow. Since she's > started to hang out with me more, I've become suspicious of her chin. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > of a sudden of Betty's jaw cancer, which is why I want to have it > examined. If she has scabs, it sounds like a more surface-y condition, but it's good to get it checked out, especially if she has chronic infections. Purrs for an easy solution! Joyce >That's excellent progress! Sounds like they're learning to tolerate >each other's presence. It's a very strange integration with these two. Separating them for 8 weeks didn't work, but apparently their finally fighting got something out of their systems. >I guess this is where the term "copycat" came from. :) It always cracks >me up when cats do that. Mine are forever copying each others' sleeping [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >territorial about the scratching posts. Roxy has been known to try to >chase Smudge away from one of them, the little brat. And they were previously friends for so long! > > They're a pretty squabbly pair of bedmates with > > each other though. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >often wake up to find all of them curled up on the bed, each within >two feet of the others, snoozing peacefully. Dot and Buster use my body for defilade when I'm in bed. It feels like I'm a pile of sandbags in the middle of a trench warfare stalemate. :) >> My cats get very >> territorial about the scratching posts. Roxy has been known to try to >> chase Smudge away from one of them, the little brat. > And they were previously friends for so long! <sigh> I know! I miss that. It's one of the unfortunate side effects of my having adopted Licky. Roxy apparently thinks he's Cool, so she imitates what he does. (Vice versa, too.) > Dot and Buster use my body for defilade when I'm in bed. It feels > like I'm a pile of sandbags in the middle of a trench warfare > stalemate. :) That doesn't sound very restful. Are you getting enough sleep?? BTW, I had no idea what "defilade" meant so I looked it up. Then I started thinking that this was probably the opposite of "enfilade" (which for some reason I always hear in my head as a French word, "on-fil-AHD"), so I looked that up too. Now I'm wondering, Enfilade - if you're reading this - why have you named yourself as "A column of troops vulnerable to sweeping gunfire"?? :) Joyce > BTW, I had no idea what "defilade" meant so I looked it up. Then > I started thinking that this was probably the opposite of "enfilade" > (which for some reason I always hear in my head as a French word, > "on-fil-AHD"), so I looked that up too. Now I'm wondering, Enfilade - > if you're reading this - why have you named yourself as "A column of > troops vulnerable to sweeping gunfire"?? :) This email address originally came for a role playing game where nobody knew my real name from Adam and only knew me by my character. And Transformers are named after aspects of their function/ personalities and I was a military commander, so I got the name from the verb, "TO sweep the enemy's flanks with gunfire." Play that for enough years and you start answering to your character's nickname...by people who only know you by that name...and it just sticks. --Fil >>That's excellent progress! Sounds like they're learning to tolerate >>each other's presence. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > like I'm a pile of sandbags in the middle of a trench warfare > stalemate. :) Dante and Stinky do this too. Dante will curl up behind my knees, and Stinky under my chin, or by my stomach, and I definitely feel like I'm being used as the line of demarcation. Of course they (especially Dante) will occasionally launch little forays into enemy territory, consisting of little smacks with a stretched-out paw. They will also fight over my lap. It's all very WWI. :P Of course, Stinky's theme song is "I'll stand my ground, I won't back down." Dante's is "Damn the torpedoes." P On Sep 6, 1:27 pm, jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote: > > Last week, Dot's wanderings into Buster's territory caused some chases > > and fights, but it seems now that they've become weary and wary of [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > of a sudden of Betty's jaw cancer, which is why I want to have it > > examined. (sorry to piggyback, Tak's original post isn't showing up for me) Tak, you probably remember Bosley's bout with chin acne. (you remember everything!) It started as scabs, then got worse because he would *not*let me touch it. Eventually, he had a *huge* swelling on the lower chin/jaw. What it was, was one of those "blackhead" things had infected and turned into an abscess. So he *had* to go to the vet. They cleaned it out, as well as the rest of the scabs. He got an antibiotic injection. They sent him home with antiobiotic pills, but I did a sorry job getting them down him. Anyway. It almost immediately began to heal after it was debrided. That has been, what, maybe 2 months or less? The fur has completely grown back. And he's back to being my boyfriend again. They never used the term rodent ulcer. Which would have been almost funny, since Bosley has never seen a rodent in his life. Good luck with Dot. Will be thinking about her. I hope hers is as easily cured. (sorry if this doesn't quite make sense, for some reason your posts are not visible so I'm going off what other people have copied) Sherry > Last week, Dot's wanderings into Buster's territory caused some chases > and fights, but it seems now that they've become weary and wary of [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > of a sudden of Betty's jaw cancer, which is why I want to have it > examined. Purrs that TED doesn't find any serious problems. Do you use plastic food dishes? My TED told me that chin acne in cats is often the result of an allergy to plastic. Now I use ceramic or metal dishes. Joy >Purrs that TED doesn't find any serious problems. Do you use plastic food >dishes? My TED told me that chin acne in cats is often the result of an >allergy to plastic. Now I use ceramic or metal dishes. Their dishes are all ceramic. One is a cute terra-cotta one that has a brown glaze - I prepare Dot's meds in it. > territories. And that gives Dot access to the rest of the house! Yay!!! > water or rubbing alcohol. But the scabs and swelling reminded me all > of a sudden of Betty's jaw cancer, which is why I want to have it > examined. Lots of purrs for it to be absolutely nothing. :)  SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > Last week, Dot's wanderings into Buster's territory caused some chases > and fights, but it seems now that they've become weary and wary of [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > sleep by my head. They're a pretty squabbly pair of bedmates with > each other though. Heh. Yeah, Sugar and Pearl were apt to erupt if too close in bed for some time. > Dot hasn't had any peeing issues lately. She seems pretty particular > about where she goes, so I've been setting up litterboxes that are to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > of a sudden of Betty's jaw cancer, which is why I want to have it > examined. Always good to be careful, but I am betting it won't be anything worse than chin acne at worst. Keep us posted. > Last week, Dot's wanderings into Buster's territory caused some chases > and fights, but it seems now that they've become weary and wary of [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > of a sudden of Betty's jaw cancer, which is why I want to have it > examined. Most likely just a nasty case of chin acne. But if its that bad, she could probably use a shot anyway so it won't be a wasted trip to the vet. Not to mention your peace of mind. Jo > Last week, Dot's wanderings into Buster's territory caused some chases > and fights, but it seems now that they've become weary and wary of > each other's fighting abilities, and now mostly posture and bluff. Posture and bluff is good :) Yeah, that is just fine. > At the same time, it's become the time of year for the squirrels to > gather acorns from the many oak trees in the back yard, and Buster's > decided to take over Dot's chair as his lookout spot. Oh I just can't wait if I get a kitty for them to get a load of the wildlife in the crabapple tree here! > So Dot > sometimes became displaced into the dining room and living room. The [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > sleep by my head. They're a pretty squabbly pair of bedmates with > each other though. I wouldn't want to be the one in the middle but it does sound like they are getting cozier! > Dot hasn't had any peeing issues lately. She seems pretty particular > about where she goes, so I've been setting up litterboxes that are to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > litterbox shyness - she'll casually pee in her box even with me and > Buster around. Oy, well, that I wouldn't be able to empathize about. My Shadow was the opposite. Wouldn't go to the litter box unless her "daddy" was going to his. When he started to get home later and later and later...oh, my. She never accepted me as easily as a bathroom buddy but I guess I was better than exploding. > On an unrelated note, Dot is going to TED again tomorrow. Since she's > started to hang out with me more, I've become suspicious of her chin. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > of a sudden of Betty's jaw cancer, which is why I want to have it > examined. I will pray to Bast that all is okay but I am sure it is. If she is a chronic sufferer of chin acne I don't think it is at all unlikely that she has perhaps a permanent swelling. Ask any lady (or I guess, guy!) with metal allergies and their pierced ears. Lobe lumps, anyone? Betcha they prescribe some steriod type of something and all is fine! Please don't forget to post back and let us know how it goes. >I will pray to Bast that all is okay but I am sure it is. If she is a >chronic sufferer of chin acne I don't think it is at all unlikely that she >has perhaps a permanent swelling. Ask any lady (or I guess, guy!) with >metal allergies and their pierced ears. Lobe lumps, anyone? Betcha they >prescribe some steriod type of something and all is fine! Please don't >forget to post back and let us know how it goes. I took Dot to TED today. When I brought out the cat carrier, Dot looked bored and looked away, napping with her head on her paws, and Buster looked excited, getting into the carrier himself and not coming out! "Where are we going, daddy?" When I finally put Dot in the carrier and in the car, she started to belt out her odd air raid siren cry. Anyway, the vet says that she sees two unrelated things with Dot's chin - bad acne, and probably "rodent ulcer", apparently some type of basal cell carcinoma and autoimmune condition. I wonder if anyone's heard of it? For now, Dot will be on antibiotics for the acne, since a steroid shot for the ulcer may make the acne worse. I'm a bit concerned for her, but I'll just have to see how the course of antibiotics works. > For now, Dot will be on antibiotics for the acne, since a steroid shot > for the ulcer may make the acne worse. I'm a bit concerned for her, > but I'll just have to see how the course of antibiotics works. Let us know how she does. Do you use plastic dishes for her food or water? SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >> For now, Dot will be on antibiotics for the acne, since a steroid shot >> for the ulcer may make the acne worse. I'm a bit concerned for her, >> but I'll just have to see how the course of antibiotics works. > >Let us know how she does. Do you use plastic dishes for her food or water? Their dishes are ceramic, and I've been keeping them clean too, but I think that the swollenness of Dot's chin makes it rub on her food as she's eating. >>> For now, Dot will be on antibiotics for the acne, since a steroid shot >>> for the ulcer may make the acne worse. I'm a bit concerned for her, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > think that the swollenness of Dot's chin makes it rub on her food as > she's eating. Just like I thought. Yes, steroids would help the "rodent ulcer" (where the hell did that name come from, I wonder? sorry, tangent) a lot but if she can't take them now there is no need to be concerned. It is autoimmune (something I am unfortunately too well acquainted with on my own body). It can be very ugly. It won't kill anyone or any*cat* that I am aware of without going a very very very long time untreated. It is a nuisance and a worry but far from anything serious probably at this point in time. All things autoimmune encompass a lot of ailments, arthritis being the biggie, lupus being the second - both of which I know too well of :) Horses can get some particularly vicious forms of it (fistula withers, etc.) I think anytime something very irritant of the skin is close to bone, there is a chance of it (stop me if I am wrong, somebody!) Chin skin isn't far from the bone, so there. You did the right thing taking her in and are getting good advice. Everything is fine. Take care, dear Tak, as you take care of your dear kitties! > Just like I thought. Yes, steroids would help the "rodent ulcer" (where the > hell did that name come from, I wonder? sorry, tangent) It's an old term for an ulcer that destroyed a lot of tissue given it a "gnawed" appearance (hence Rodent ulcer), it used to be applied to a number of conditions including squamous cell carcinoma, syphilltic gumatta and some forms of leprosy- the term was more a description of the damage caused rather than the cause of it ie anything that started with an ulcer and caused that much damage was termed a "rodent ulcer" I've seen a specimen of one, which was almost certainly syphillitic in origin..not pretty Nowadays the term is excusively used for squamous cell carcinoma which if untreated can cause problems however a friend of mine had one on his nose whipped off in his lunch break Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs (and making her bid for the ng's resident medical historian) Violette had the rodent ulcer, it was brought on by stress and she got shots for it when it acted up, just keep watch and catch it early and all will be fine, her was brought on specifically when we traveled and left them alone, or when a new cat came, Lee > >I will pray to Bast that all is okay but I am sure it is. If she is a > >chronic sufferer of chin acne I don't think it is at all unlikely that she [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > for the ulcer may make the acne worse. I'm a bit concerned for her, > but I'll just have to see how the course of antibiotics works. >Violette had the rodent ulcer, it was brought on by stress and she got shots >for it when it acted up, just keep watch and catch it early and all will be >fine, her was brought on specifically when we traveled and left them alone, >or when a new cat came, Lee I'm glad that it worked out fine for Violette. Dot can't get the steroid shots yet, but hopefully by the time she gets a follow-up checkup, she'll be able to. Honestly I don't think it was steroids, some other treatment, a shot every 2 week for 8 weeks, but if steroids work great, Tiger just got one for his belly over, he is calmer but its too soon to see improvement, Lee > >Violette had the rodent ulcer, it was brought on by stress and she got shots > >for it when it acted up, just keep watch and catch it early and all will be [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > steroid shots yet, but hopefully by the time she gets a follow-up > checkup, she'll be able to. >>I will pray to Bast that all is okay but I am sure it is. If she is a >>chronic sufferer of chin acne I don't think it is at all unlikely that she [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > for the ulcer may make the acne worse. I'm a bit concerned for her, > but I'll just have to see how the course of antibiotics works. When I was working to clear up Molly's chin, I'd take a warm, slightly damp washcloth I'd heated in the microwave and hold it on her chin. That and gently scrubbing Neosporin into the skin with a very soft toothbrush. It is a really difficult spot for a cat to clean itself. Jake has a scar in that spot from surgery and just love to have his chin rubbed. I think sometimes the chin problems itch and the cats make it worse trying to find something to rub it on. Sending lots of purrs from Jake and Molly for chin healing. They know how miserable yucky chins can be. Jo >>I will pray to Bast that all is okay but I am sure it is. If she is a >>chronic sufferer of chin acne I don't think it is at all unlikely that she [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > for the ulcer may make the acne worse. I'm a bit concerned for her, > but I'll just have to see how the course of antibiotics works. I don't know about a rodent ulcer, but I had a basal cell carcinoma removed from my left tear duct about 15 years ago. I didn't know beforehand what it was (I thought it was a "wen"), so it had been there for about 15 years before I had it removed (for cosmetic reasons, not because it hurt or bothered me). The doctor who removed it said it was very slow growing and, once removed, should not come back or bother me again. Anyway, don't get worried about the word "carcinoma" - I know you might be after Betty, but this is something easily treatable and not in any way terminal. Hugs, CatNipped >I don't know about a rodent ulcer, but I had a basal cell carcinoma removed >from my left tear duct about 15 years ago. I didn't know beforehand what it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >after Betty, but this is something easily treatable and not in any way >terminal. Yes, this doesn't sound nearly as bad as Betty's condition, but geez, I've only had one cat now that hasn't had a carcinoma of the lower jaw. On the plus side, I know some good veterinary oncologists now, so if it gets any worse, I imagine they can treat it successfully. >> I don't know about a rodent ulcer, but I had a basal cell carcinoma >> removed from my left tear duct about 15 years ago. I didn't know [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > jaw. On the plus side, I know some good veterinary oncologists now, > so if it gets any worse, I imagine they can treat it successfully. Hopefully, it will not come to that. I think rodent ulcers are not real uncommon. Poor girl. Might explain some of her anti-socialness. Purrs for a good recovery. > Hopefully, it will not come to that. I think rodent ulcers are not real > uncommon. Poor girl. Might explain some of her anti-socialness. Purrs > for a good recovery. That's what I was thinking, too. Purrs that the ulcer is gone soon and Dot feels so relieved that she becomes fast friends with Buster. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. >> Hopefully, it will not come to that. I think rodent ulcers are not real >> uncommon. Poor girl. Might explain some of her anti-socialness. Purrs >> for a good recovery. >> >That's what I was thinking, too. Purrs that the ulcer is gone soon and >Dot feels so relieved that she becomes fast friends with Buster. Hi Tak, October's edition of Cat Fancy has a very good article on Rodent Ulcers. I have been dealing with this problem with my maine coon mix Sasquatch, and never has the vet said it was cancerous. His is caused by an allergy, possibly to corn. Mishi >Hopefully, it will not come to that. I think rodent ulcers are not real >uncommon. Poor girl. Might explain some of her anti-socialness. Purrs >for a good recovery. I'm not sure how or whether it's uncomfortable for her, but she doesn't mind having her chin touched, and likes chin rubs like any other cat. Probably, it's more uncomfortable than painful. >>I don't know about a rodent ulcer, but I had a basal cell carcinoma >>removed [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > jaw. On the plus side, I know some good veterinary oncologists now, > so if it gets any worse, I imagine they can treat it successfully. Stop panicking, Tak. A rodent ulcer is only marginally cancer and is easily treated never to be seen again. Dot does *not* have cancer of the jaw. Although I do understand why you think so and it makes me want to give you a comforting hug. I have never said this to anyone else before so consider yourself privileged ;-) Tweed > "Takayuki" <Takayuk...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > I took Dot to TED today. When I brought out the cat carrier, Dot > > looked bored and looked away, napping with her head on her paws, and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > for the ulcer may make the acne worse. I'm a bit concerned for her, > > but I'll just have to see how the course of antibiotics works. Tak, I've done a quick Google search for information on rodent ulcer and basal cell carcinoma and it looks like rodent ulcer is an eosinophilic granulomatosa type lesion. I can't tell from your post if you're saying that Dot's two unrelated issues are 1) bad acne which is probably "rodent ulcer" and 2) a basal cell carcinoma and autoimmune condition or if she has 1) bad acne and 2) rodent ulcer which is apparently a basal cell carcinoma. It looks like the only way to diagnosis feline basal cell ca is a biopsy and the treatment is excision of the lesion. Rodent ulcer of course being autoimmune. My concern for the distinction is the apparent automatic treatment with steroids. If she might have basal cell ca then Dot doesn't need the steroid treatment but rather a biopsy. I feel very strongly against steroid treatment if it isn't necessary. It can cause so many other problems that you might want to explore other options. If this is rodent ulcer and an autoimmune issue, are there holistic treatments you might try while she's on the antibiotics? Something that might boost her immune system and begin fighting the rodent ulcer? If the vet thinks it might be basil cell I'd get a biopsy before going the steroid route. You might remember that Hobbes had eosinophilic granulomata complex (EGC) when he was about 3 or 4 years old. We treated him with steroids because that was what the vet recommended and we didn't know any better at the time. He is now diabetic and requires insulin. Selena had skin allergies and she was treated with steroids every three months for several years. I don't know if that had anything to do with her HCM but it wouldn't surprise me. Inhaled medications are recommended for asthmatic cats over systemic steroids because of the damage the systemic steroids can do. Maybe a topical steroid could be used to help treat the rodent ulcer. I'm not a vet, Tak, you know that and I doubt very many people know more than you about immune systems and issues involving feline diseases. You took such good care of Betty and researched and read about everything you could do to give her the best quality of life possible. Dot's made a place in your heart already and I'm sure just the thought that she might be ill is causing a sense of panic and you're now researching everything you can about all four issues. Just consider options, other than steroids, if they are available. Hugs and gentle headbutts to you and Dot and Buster as well for good measure, Julie, Hobbes, Lacey and Sam >I'm not a vet, Tak, you know that and I doubt very many people know >more than you about immune systems and issues involving feline [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >measure, >Julie, Hobbes, Lacey and Sam I actually feel pretty confident that Dot's chin problems will be resolved. I've seen worse, you know. :) I'm actually not very sure what exactly rodent ulcer is - it sounds like a mysterious condition. It's interesting that you're cautioning me about steroids, because Megan called me yesterday and told me the same thing (despite having lost her own kitty to cancer just a few hours earlier), and recommended milder oral steroids instead of an injection, if that becomes necessary. Takayuki kirjoitti: >> I'm not a vet, Tak, you know that and I doubt very many people know >> more than you about immune systems and issues involving feline [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > hours earlier), and recommended milder oral steroids instead of an > injection, if that becomes necessary. Tak, I did a Google search with "rodent ulcer cat" and got quite a few hits with long descriptions etc. Without the word cat in the search I got more hits on the condition in humans than cats. Maybe you want to do a search yourself to find out more about it. SignatureChristine in Laitila, Finland christal63 (at) gmail (dot) com photos: http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb108/christal63/ photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/chkr63 >I did a Google search with "rodent ulcer cat" and got quite a few hits >with long descriptions etc. Without the word cat in the search I got >more hits on the condition in humans than cats. Maybe you want to do a >search yourself to find out more about it. The human condition that goes by the name rodent ulcer (basil cell carcinoma) is a different condition than the feline illness. Basil Cell Carcinoma is the most common skin cancer in man and is treated surgically. I've had one taken off. It was an office procedure. Bud SignatureThe night is just the shadow of the Earth. >I'm actually not very sure what exactly rodent ulcer is - it sounds >like a mysterious condition. It's interesting that you're cautioning >me about steroids, because Megan called me yesterday and told me the >same thing (despite having lost her own kitty to cancer just a few >hours earlier), and recommended milder oral steroids instead of an >injection, if that becomes necessary. Rodent ulcer = eosinophilic granuloma. I had a cat that went through a spell of eosinophilic granuloma when he got small, flat ulcers on his lip. It lasted less than a year and stopped as mysteriously as it started. The vet treated it with oral prednisone. Bud SignatureThe night is just the shadow of the Earth. >> I'm actually not very sure what exactly rodent ulcer is - it sounds >> like a mysterious condition. It's interesting that you're cautioning [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Bud Hmm. Sugar had this once. I noticed her lips swelling and well, looking like LIPS. However, it began going down on its own by the time I took her to the vet, who was pleased about that. She never got to the point where it became an ulcer. The vet did give me some antihistimine for her, but we have never used them and she hasn't gotten it again. We have NO idea what caused it. I forget, what do you feed Dot and Buster? If they only eat dry food forget I said anything. If they only eat wet and it sits around awhile for them, maybe that can be helping to cause Dots chin problems. If like many cats they get scheduled wet food that they eat right up, and they available dry snacks. Then you might want to make a point of washing Dot's chin right after she eats. Wet food could be feeding the acne she has. Jo >>I will pray to Bast that all is okay but I am sure it is. If she is a >>chronic sufferer of chin acne I don't think it is at all unlikely that she [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > for the ulcer may make the acne worse. I'm a bit concerned for her, > but I'll just have to see how the course of antibiotics works. > I forget, what do you feed Dot and Buster? If they only eat dry food > forget I said anything. If they only eat wet and it sits around awhile [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jo Hmm. Interesting because dry food is actually a bigger breeding ground for bacteria. I would more suspect allergy to an ingredient. > I took Dot to TED today. When I brought out the cat carrier, Dot > looked bored and looked away, napping with her head on her paws, and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > for the ulcer may make the acne worse. I'm a bit concerned for her, > but I'll just have to see how the course of antibiotics works. I'm glad to hear Dot and Buster are getting along so much better now. Lots and lots of healing purrs for Dot's chin, Polonca and Soncek |
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