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Bettina - 31 Aug 2007 17:25 GMT Jayy - it worked out again! Pünktchen, the second cat to spay was captured this morning and I drove her to the vet. This time we were prepared - both of us had thick leather gloves and it all went well. Though we watched out like hell, she managed to escape, but we could catch her immediately and give her the anesthesia. Now she is safely home and recovering. I am so glad. The vet told me he would order some sort of cage, where there is a slide inside, so the cat can be gently pushed against the metal grid and be anesthesized from outside. Good trick. I will wait with the other two until he got this cage.
P.S. When the vet operated Murkel, the first one, he found out that she had an uterus inflammation, uterus was full of pus. So, if we hadn`t have her neutered she for sure would have died and nobody would have known of what.Now, 10 days after surgery she is totally well, eating a lot and looks really healthy. All is well.
Bettina
Adrian A - 31 Aug 2007 20:43 GMT > Jayy - it worked out again! > Pünktchen, the second cat to spay was captured this morning and I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Bettina Well done on getting, Pünktchen, to the vet. Good luck purrs for number three, I've seen those cages on television, simple but effective.
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Bettina - 31 Aug 2007 23:29 GMT > > Jayy - it worked out again! > > Pünktchen, the second cat to spay was captured this morning and I [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > - Zitierten Text anzeigen - Thank you very much. BTW "Pünktchen" means "Little Spot" chosen because she, as a grey/white Tabby has got a rather huge red spot of fur on her forehead.<g>
jmcquown - 31 Aug 2007 21:03 GMT > Jayy - it worked out again! > Pünktchen, the second cat to spay was captured this morning and I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Bettina You are such a savior! Praise and purrs for what you are doing! You have made my day!
Jill
Bettina - 31 Aug 2007 23:30 GMT > > Jayy - it worked out again! > > Pünktchen, the second cat to spay was captured this morning and I [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > - Zitierten Text anzeigen - Oh come on. Thank you. <blush>
Bettina - 01 Sep 2007 11:22 GMT > > Jayy - it worked out again! > > Pünktchen, the second cat to spay was captured this morning and I [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > - Zitierten Text anzeigen - Somehow my first answer vanished. So again: Thank you for your friendly words.
Irulan - 31 Aug 2007 21:12 GMT God bless you.
Lily & her mama
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Jayy - it worked out again! Pünktchen, the second cat to spay was captured this morning and I drove her to the vet. This time we were prepared - both of us had thick leather gloves and it all went well. Though we watched out like hell, she managed to escape, but we could catch her immediately and give her the anesthesia. Now she is safely home and recovering. I am so glad. The vet told me he would order some sort of cage, where there is a slide inside, so the cat can be gently pushed against the metal grid and be anesthesized from outside. Good trick. I will wait with the other two until he got this cage.
P.S. When the vet operated Murkel, the first one, he found out that she had an uterus inflammation, uterus was full of pus. So, if we hadn`t have her neutered she for sure would have died and nobody would have known of what.Now, 10 days after surgery she is totally well, eating a lot and looks really healthy. All is well.
Bettina
Jack Campin - bogus address - 31 Aug 2007 21:52 GMT > P.S. When the vet operated Murkel, the first one, he found out that > she had an uterus inflammation, uterus was full of pus. So, if we > hadn`t have her neutered she for sure would have died and nobody would > have known of what.Now, 10 days after surgery she is totally well, > eating a lot and looks really healthy. Pyometra. Helluva nasty condition: http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?articleid=917
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Bettina - 31 Aug 2007 23:33 GMT On 31 Aug., 22:52, Jack Campin - bogus address <bo...@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > P.S. When the vet operated Murkel, the first one, he found out that > > she had an uterus inflammation, uterus was full of pus. So, if we [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 > stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 What a great site for information! Thanks a lot. Will read through it. They really give informations one can work and decide with. They explain things.
Bettina - 31 Aug 2007 23:32 GMT > God bless you. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to the stars we return > from now until the end of time. What to answer there? Thank you.
Blessed be
Magic Mood Jeep - 31 Aug 2007 23:40 GMT Jayy - it worked out again! Pünktchen, the second cat to spay was captured this morning and I drove her to the vet. This time we were prepared - both of us had thick leather gloves and it all went well. Though we watched out like hell, she managed to escape, but we could catch her immediately and give her the anesthesia. Now she is safely home and recovering. I am so glad. The vet told me he would order some sort of cage, where there is a slide inside, so the cat can be gently pushed against the metal grid and be anesthesized from outside. Good trick. I will wait with the other two until he got this cage. ------
Known simply as a Squeeze Cage http://www.livetrap.com/cgi/search.cgi?user_id=&database=dbase1.exm&template=pro ducts.shtml&2_option=1&2=Squeeze+Cages
hard to see, but there is a panel that they can push to one side that will push the cat to that side. ----------------------- P.S. When the vet operated Murkel, the first one, he found out that she had an uterus inflammation, uterus was full of pus. So, if we hadn`t have her neutered she for sure would have died and nobody would have known of what.Now, 10 days after surgery she is totally well, eating a lot and looks really healthy. All is well. ------------------- Ouch - Pyometra! Very deadly - that and breast cancer are 2 reason to spay your cat(s) - imagine having breast cancer with way more than 2 breast to get it in!
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Jack Campin - bogus address - 01 Sep 2007 00:06 GMT > Pyometra! Very deadly - that and breast cancer are 2 reason to spay > your cat(s) - imagine having breast cancer with way more than 2 breast > to get it in! Breast cancer? With humans it's the other way round - having a baby by age 15 and breastfeeding it is close to 100% protective against breast cancer in later life (not an easy preventive measure to sell in a modern "developed" society).
My Muriel was spayed and she's got it. This link suggests there is no correlation: <http://www.thensome.com/mammary.htm>
Pyometra is a more serious risk, though.
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Christina Websell - 02 Sep 2007 21:45 GMT Jayy - it worked out again! Pünktchen, the second cat to spay was captured this morning and I drove her to the vet. This time we were prepared - both of us had thick leather gloves and it all went well. <snip a lovely story>
It is a wonderful thing that you are doing, Bettina. Your karma has now increased so, so much! Do you believe in karma? I do. If you do good things, good things will come back to you, and the same for bad things. My new neighbour is going to be in bad trouble here ;-) Lots of luck for catching the others.
Tweed
Bettina - 07 Sep 2007 12:18 GMT On 2 Sep., 22:45, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Jayy - it worked out again! > Pünktchen, the second cat to spay was captured this morning and I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tweed Thank you Tweed for your encouragement. Yes, indeed, I do belive in Karma. Furthermore I believe, that INTENT is a power, not yet measureable, but influencing everything we do. Do something in good intent and the world gets better. Do something in bad intent and the vibes you send out will worsen things.
I thank you that you give me the opportunity to comment on the trouble your neighbours are giving you at the time. I read about it in another thread, but didn`t comment, as the thread was about something else.
As a house owner myself I went nuts when I read about your neighbours behaviour. I would need myself people who would hold me back not to grab a shotgun and take things in my own hands. Wow, was I mad reading that. I hope you will succeed by using the legal ways. I would be happy to hear how things are running. Hopefully those new neighbours will sell their property again soon, as there won`t be a good neighbourhood relationship after the things they did. I am so sorry that that happened to you. And I am so happy to see that you are a real fighter, give them hell, defend your rights. (The good intend there could be to help those people realize that they just CAN`T do what they want to if it involves other peoples realms.)
Anyway - wish you lots of luck and success
Bettina
Christina Websell - 08 Sep 2007 01:24 GMT On 2 Sep., 22:45, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Bettina" <textw...@web.de> wrote in message
>Thank you Tweed for your encouragement. >Yes, indeed, I do belive in Karma. Furthermore I believe, that INTENT >is a power, not yet measureable, but influencing everything we do. >Do something in good intent and the world gets better. Do something >in >bad intent and the vibes you send out will worsen things.
>I thank you that you give me the opportunity to comment on the >trouble >your neighbours are giving you at the time. I read about it in another >thread, >but didn`t comment, as the thread was about something else. Yes, I know. I shouldn't have mentioned it there but it was all happening right then and I was so outraged it just spilled out.
>As a house owner myself I went nuts when I read about your neighbours >behaviour. I would need myself people who would hold me back not to >grab >a shotgun and take things in my own hands. Wow, was I mad reading >that. It's funny you should mention a shotgun because at the moment I arrived home and found my beloved shrubs, plants and bulbs just bulldozed into oblivion I wished I had one in my hand. There was not one of those plants that did not have a sentimental value for me. All had been given as gifts, some from people who are no longer alive. Fortunately our gun laws are very strict here and I don't have one ;-) So I just wept instead.
>I hope you will succeed by using the legal ways. I would be happy to >hear how things are running. After they took down my fence and burnt it, leaving me no privacy or security they got a serious talking-to by the police. My neighbour has drawn up an agreement where they have to replace the plants and the fence and dig out the 2 feet of subsoil that they have deposited on 15m x 10m of my land. They started the fence today, and would you believe it (yes, actually!) they tried to steal yet a bit more land. Fortunately Jenny-next-door was on the case and made them take it up again and put it further back.
She believes that they will stick to the "gentleman's agreement" we have signed. I don't. They push what is acceptable in the hope they will get away with it. They trespass on my new garden all the time, and are actually using my gypsy caravan to store their tools.
>Hopefully those new neighbours will sell their property again soon, as >there won`t be >a good neighbourhood relationship after the things they did. >I am so sorry that that happened to you. They are "building to sell" At first I was told that "My brother is going to live here." Total bullsh*t. All they say is bullsh=t.
As Jenny-next-door said to them "I do hope you are not expecting to live here.." It has outraged me and outraged my neighbours too.
>And I am so happy to see that you are a real fighter, give them hell, >defend your rights. >(The good intend there could be to help those people realize >that they just CAN`T do what they want to if it involves other peoples >realms.) I don't want to fight, I like a peaceful life "like wot I had once" however no-one, but no one does this to me and gets away with it. Strangely enough, they are now being investigated by the council for working "over allowed hours." What, me? Perish the thought. As if I would..
Tweed
GaDragonfly - 08 Sep 2007 03:29 GMT On Sep 7, 8:24 pm, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> It's funny you should mention a shotgun because at the moment I arrived home > and found my beloved shrubs, plants and bulbs just bulldozed into oblivion I [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Tweed Tweed, We continue to send purrs that these jerks receive exactly what they deserve for what they've done. It isn't enough to replace your fence and plants, are they also going to supply the fertilizer, water and gardening care that it takes for several years for these new plants to become established? Not to mention the sentimental value. They owe you so much more! I'm just glad they don't plan to live there and hope that whoever does move in appreciates the value of another person's property more than these people do.
Hugs and gentle headbutts, Julie, Hobbes, Lacey, Sam and Barnabus
Christina Websell - 09 Sep 2007 01:48 GMT > On Sep 7, 8:24 pm, "Christina Websell" > <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > > Tweed, > We continue to send purrs that these jerks receive exactly what they > deserve for what they've done. Oh, I'm sure they will in one way or another. They have already been warned by the council not to work after noon on Saturdays, not at all on Sundays and to finish at 6 pm in the week because of the noise and disruption. They are working only a few feet away from my kitchen window. So that was ignored, of course.. They are heading towards an Enforcement Notice now to make them comply - which they don't know about yet - which will force them into it or they will get a huge fine. I shall let that be a nice surprise.
> It isn't enough to replace your fence > and plants, are they also going to supply the fertilizer, water and > gardening care that it takes for several years for these new plants to > become established? Not to mention the sentimental value. They owe > you so much more! No, it isn't enough, you are quite right. I have to accept now, though, that what's done is done. They have agreed to replace all the plants that were destroyed. Unfortunately, even if I get another potentilla it will not be the one that my lovely 90 yr old neighbour grew for me from a cutting from her own shrub "to remember her by" before she moved away. Each and every plant in that border had some sort of similar history.
> I'm just glad they don't plan to live there and hope > that whoever does move in appreciates the value of another person's > property more than these people do. I don't think it's possible not to!
The new fence has started to be put up today, after 5 weeks of no privacy, and no security for the back of the house. If I had been doing it I would have started from where my security is compromised, i.e. near my house and worked downwards, down the garden. No, they started from furthest away and ran out of time to complete it. Typical. Plus they have the slowest person in the world doing it. I could have done it twice as fast myself. Even I could fix feather edge boarding to existing frames quicker than that. It was painful to watch, I hope he is not paid by the hour ;-)
Thanks for your kind thoughts, Julie.
Tweed
Joy - 09 Sep 2007 01:53 GMT >> On Sep 7, 8:24 pm, "Christina Websell" >> <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Tweed Actually, if the neighbors have to pay for the fence, I'd hope he *is* paid by the hour. ;-)
Joy
Christina Websell - 09 Sep 2007 01:59 GMT >>> On Sep 7, 8:24 pm, "Christina Websell" >>> <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Actually, if the neighbors have to pay for the fence, I'd hope he *is* > paid by the hour. ;-) > > Joy Oh, yeah! Hadn't thought about that! Duh.
Tweed
Bettina - 08 Sep 2007 18:43 GMT > <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > It's funny you should mention a shotgun because at the moment I arrived home [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Tweed Well, thats a start - built to sell - an expression new to me. Obviously means those people won`t be your neighbours. I am happy for you there. I know how even little things (like lending some garden chairs and getting one back broken) can disturb a neighbourhood relationship. So there is a good chance to get decent neighbours.
You know what - if I had the money and the house wouldn`t be too big, I would love to buy it. I have dreamed for years of moving to the UK. I even went for searching a house there in 1996. But then there were the old quarantine laws in place and I didn`t want to give my cats into 6 month quarantine.
Now, there are better possibilities to bring pets to the UK, but housing prices went through the roof the last years due to a new law which prohibits mostly to build new houses, but allows to convert old houses. A friend told me that some years ago. I don`t understand what reason might have been the cause for that stupid law. In 1996 I might have been able to buy a little one, but now that prices are threefold there is no chance for me at the moment.
Could you still sue them after the written agreemant you made with them? They should pay for the damage they`ve initiated.
I don`t like to fight either - but if I am challenged I am willing to get my right.
Oh well - everything could be so nice and quiet if some people would behave.
Wish you the best
Bettina
Exocat - 08 Sep 2007 21:10 GMT > Now, there are better possibilities to bring pets to the UK, but > housing prices went through the roof the last years due to a new law > which prohibits mostly to build new houses, but allows to convert old > houses. A friend told me that some years ago. Bettina, you've been misinformed, there never was or has been any such law. England is small, the population is growing, and so the rules of supply and demand - plus much lower interest rates allowing people to borrow more multiples of their salary - are what caused the price explosion. But as prices vary widely across the country you might still be able to manage somewhere "unfashionable". I can't comment on the place and it's no reflection, but I did hear recently that Beverley in Yorkshire was an economical place to purchase a house. With a cheap cost of living (property taxes, food prices, etc.) too. Perhaps Adrian, who lives elsewhere in Yorkshire, would know more?
Altough we're a nation of animal lovers, allegedly, we could always do with more Catslaves :)
Purrs Gordon & the FF
Adrian A - 08 Sep 2007 22:00 GMT >> Now, there are better possibilities to bring pets to the UK, but >> housing prices went through the roof the last years due to a new law [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Purrs > Gordon & the FF I'm only about 30 miles (50km) from Beverly, very nice part of the country. I do the occasional home check for Beverly Cats Protection when it's closer for me then them.
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Bettina - 15 Sep 2007 17:54 GMT > > Now, there are better possibilities to bring pets to the UK, but > > housing prices went through the roof the last years due to a new law [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----http://www.newsfeeds.comThe #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Hi Gordon, sorry it took me so long to answer. Thanks for the information. Well - at the moment it seems rather impossible to move someday to the UK. But - one never knows what the future will bring. It will be a real endeavour to bring all my cats over via the "Pet Travel Scheme". At the moment one has to follow specific routes to bring cats there. I hope that will change. I`d love to just put them into a car and drive over. Anyway - comes money comes move.<g> I felt home when I visited the UK. A rural place, little house, away from neighbours would be great. Or, on the edge of a little village. I believe in reincarnation and when I was in the UK I really felt that I`ve been there before. Sounds ridiculous maybe. But is true.
Thanks again
Bettina
Exocat - 17 Sep 2007 18:49 GMT > Thanks for the information. Well - at the moment it seems rather > impossible to move > someday to the UK. But - one never knows what the future will bring. Indeed one doesn't, so don't stop hoping - there are now signs of potential price drops in the UK housing market (about time too!) :)
I know what you mean about feeling at home somewhere: there's a village in Brasil that had my name on it when I visited......
Purrs Gordon & the FF
Christina Websell - 13 Sep 2007 01:43 GMT >> <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> You know what - if I had the money and the house wouldn`t be too big, > I would love to buy it. I have dreamed for years of moving to the UK. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > prices are threefold > there is no chance for me at the moment. When I visited Germany I found that food was much cheaper than here. I wanted to bring leeks home in my suitcase ;-)
> Could you still sue them after the written agreemant you made with > them? Yes, I could and they know it and don't like it. Atm their preferred method of making me miserable is blocking my drive with their cars so I cannot get out or in without asking them to move their vehicles. Time after time. Now I would say that if someone had been asked once, or twice if they were not too intelligent, not to obstruct my driveway so I could get my car out, that if they continued to do it they were malicious.(sp?) Yes?
Tweed
Bettina - 15 Sep 2007 17:57 GMT On 13 Sep., 02:43, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> When I visited Germany I found that food was much cheaper than here. I > wanted to bring leeks home in my suitcase ;-) Well, yesterday I heard on TV that electricity in the UK is much cheaper as in Germany. And yes, I know that the living costs in the UK are higher as in Germany. But I don`t need much. And a little garden will help. Does it even here. Anyway - bringing 7 cats to the Uk seems rather insane at the moment as the UK "Pet travelling scheme" involves so much costs. But the moment I will have (won, inherited, got) enough money to afford moving and living there I will go house-hunting. There are jobs for translators in the UK. I know that.
> > Could you still sue them after the written agreemant you made with > > them? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > if they continued to do it they were malicious.(sp?) > Yes? It is sometimes a shame that we are civilized enough to not negotiate with a shotgun. <sigh> Of course it`s not, but hey, the thought of not having to discuss is sometimes really tempting.
I wish you all the best. And I am very happy that you are not going to let them their way.
jofirey - 08 Sep 2007 19:05 GMT > On 2 Sep., 22:45, "Christina Websell" > <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > > Tweed I'm wondering. Since they seem bound and determined to steal a few feet of your property.
If they don't need a few more feet than they have to meet zoning and code requirements for what they are building.
If that were the case here and they built too close to the property line, they would have to tear it back down. Especially if one of their neighbor's neighbors complained.
I know I would want to make their lives as miserable and unprofitable as possible while still getting back what I was owed about now.
Jo
Lesley - 08 Sep 2007 19:20 GMT On 7 Sep, 17:24, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: What, me? Perish the thought. As if I would..
Oh like the company that offered me a job running a bargain bookstore, which turned out to have a plan to sell bargain books upstairs and porn downstairs?
Now as long as it's consenting adults don't have a problem, seen some of it and found most of it made me wish for a decent plot..the funniest one I saw was this one where this girl brought her new boyfriend round to her house for some sex and her mum and aunt were there and started making comments along the lines of "You look well hung after youve sh**ged her, come down, big boy and give us a good seeing to" and the guy didn't run out screaming?
Sorry I know reality has no place in these things but I just couldn't believe it after that
Anyway I dared to ask if they had a licence and got told they didn't need one as all their films were BBFC 18
Within an hour of my asking that they said they didn't think I'd fit in despite only the day before saying they would consider me for managing the bookshop since I was well qualified to do that
I later heard they didn't have a licence and didn;t get one. I don't know the in's and out's but I do know we have a friend who worked for the department in that council responsible for issuing the relevant licence...I didn't say a word but I've never liked to ask Dave about it....
Lesley
Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
polonca12000 - 06 Sep 2007 22:17 GMT > Jayy - it worked out again! > Pünktchen, the second cat to spay was captured this morning and I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Bettina Thank you so much for doing this! Lots of purrs and best wishes, Polonca and Soncek
Bettina - 07 Sep 2007 12:20 GMT > > Jayy - it worked out again! > > Pünktchen, the second cat to spay was captured this morning and I [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > - Zitierten Text anzeigen - Thank you very much for your nice words Polonca. I am just doing what I have to.
Bettina
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