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UPDATE : Miss Lily Whiskers and more purrs please. :(

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leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 30 Aug 2007 17:53 GMT
Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
anaesthetic OK, and seemed OK when I got her. I brought her home, and
the first thing she did when she got out of th carrier was smack her
newly bandaged tail against the table leg. Blood went everywhere
because the bandage was soaked in 30 seconds flat. So straight back
off to the vet we went.

She is boarding at the vet overnight because he can then keep her
confined in a cat pen. I am deeply unhappy about this, simply because
I want my baby home where I can keep an eye on her and I miss her.
Logic states that it is much easier to leave her at TED because she'll
be confined and quiet rather than trying to order the dog about, get
out through the cat flap, chase mowsies and batter her tail silly,
but....  :o((

I don't know what to make of this locum vet. He certainly seems very
competent and good with the animals, and Michael (normal TED) would
never leave the practice in the hands of someone who wasn't up to his
exacting standards, but I don't like him. That's probably because I've
got used to my vets explaining what they are doing and what drugs they
are using and why, and this guy seems to work in a very brusque &
dismissive manner with the owners which I don't like. Also, the
surgery is not manned 24 hours which I *REALLY* don't like although
the animals are checked reguarly...

Please send purrs that she has a reasonable night, and I get some
sleep and that I don't worry *too* much. :((

Thanks
Helen M
Matthew - 30 Aug 2007 18:00 GMT
CONTINUAL PURRS IN ROUTE
I WILL KEEP THE PACK UP ALL NIGHT PURRING LOUD

> Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
> picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Thanks
> Helen M
Irulan - 30 Aug 2007 18:02 GMT
Lily and I send our deepest and most sincere purrs and
prayers for Miss Lily Whisler's quick and uneventful
recovery. We love her, too. Also, for your peace of mind.
She will be fine.

Lily & her mama

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> Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
> picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Thanks
> Helen M
jofirey - 30 Aug 2007 18:03 GMT
> Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
> picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Thanks
> Helen M

Purrs on the way.  I wouldn't have expected any less from Miss Lily.  She
didn't get this far by cooperating.

One of the best vets we've had, had no people skills whatsoever.  It was a
wonder he had any clients at all.  He had an artificial leg, and I think it
pained him.  The older he got, the worse he got.

But he was amazing with the animals and his skills were top notch.  Even if
he did make you feel you didn't deserve to take them home when he was done.
He was good about explaining things though.

He tolerated us because our Sam had injured a leg as a kitten and had a
steel pin holding it together.  He liked Sam.

Jo
leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 30 Aug 2007 18:14 GMT
> One of the best vets we've had, had no people skills whatsoever.  It was a
> wonder he had any clients at all.  He had an artificial leg, and I think it
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> he did make you feel you didn't deserve to take them home when he was done.
> He was good about explaining things though.////

That actually makes me feel much better. Thanks Jo. :)

Helen M
Suz - 31 Aug 2007 00:21 GMT
On Aug 30, 12:14?pm, leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> > One of the best vets we've had, had no people skills whatsoever.  It was a
> > wonder he had any clients at all.  He had an artificial leg, and I think it
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Helen M

Spicey purrs continue, hang in there sweety.
Suz&Spicey
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 30 Aug 2007 18:52 GMT
>>Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
>>picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
> Jo

I suspect that one reason some vets BECOME vets instead of
people doctors is because they lack "people skills". (And
probably don't find forensic medicine particularly appealing.)
Will in New Haven - 30 Aug 2007 19:25 GMT
On Aug 30, 1:52 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > <leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:1188492831.830786.140120@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
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> people doctors is because they lack "people skills". (And
> probably don't find forensic medicine particularly appealing.)

Possibly but it is often because they got admitted to a vet school,
which is harder than getting admitted to a med school.

It may be atypical but I was _delighted_ one day when I worked at the
bookstore at Yale Med School when a young first-year came in and
returned her texts and said that she was dropping out because she had
recieved a late admission to Auburn Veterinary. Take that Yale.

Will in New Haven

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jofirey - 30 Aug 2007 19:38 GMT
> On Aug 30, 1:52 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> <evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> Will in New Haven

Its been my experience that most vets have a better scientific grounding and
more scientific curiosity than most doctors do.  But that might be because
we live close to UC Davis.  Most of the vets around here are around here
because they are still connected with the university.  Many of them would be
quite happy to care for animals and do research and forget running a
practice.

Jo
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 30 Aug 2007 20:20 GMT
> Its been my experience that most vets have a better scientific grounding and
> more scientific curiosity than most doctors do.  But that might be because
> we live close to UC Davis.  Most of the vets around here are around here
> because they are still connected with the university.  Many of them would be
> quite happy to care for animals and do research and forget running a
> practice.

I would imagine that in any population of doctors, some percentage
are in the profession because of reasons other than scientific
curiosity. Such as, the desire to help people. (But the same could
be true for vets, substituting "animals" for "people".)

And then there's the money angle. Doctors make more than vets. Plus
they have a lot more prestige. I'm not implying that all doctors are
after money and prestige, but some of them certainly do have that
motivation, and my theory is that this would affect a greater percentage
of doctors than vets.

I like your theory best, though - you're near a research and educational
institution, so you're surrounded by people who are interested in science.
Makes sense to me.

Joyce
Jane - 30 Aug 2007 18:39 GMT
On Aug 30, 12:53 pm, leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
> picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Thanks
> Helen M

Poor baby!!  She is such a little dear, and so very special to all of
us, that I have
no doubt that she will be just fine in the long run. I understand your
worry, though.
I have always hated leaving my darlings behind, and probably drove the
office
crazy, calling for updates every couple of hours.

Jane
- owned and operated by the Princess Rita
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 30 Aug 2007 18:53 GMT
> Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
> picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> because the bandage was soaked in 30 seconds flat. So straight back
> off to the vet we went.

Yikes! Too bad they don't build e-collars for tails... I think this
vet is right to keep her overnight, but I understand your fear about
it, not to mention missing her. Lots of extra purrs for her to settle
down and start to heal!

I got both of your posts at the same time, so I'm responding to both
back-to-back. I'm glad she got through the surgery OK! Now, just to
keep her from re-injuring herself. She's just too active for her own
good sometimes.

Purrs,
Joyce
Christina Websell - 30 Aug 2007 18:57 GMT
> Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
> picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Please send purrs that she has a reasonable night, and I get some
> sleep and that I don't worry *too* much. :((

All this happened while I was at work so I missed the first call for purrs.
Poor Miss LW, she really is a most unfortunate cat.  First she loses an eye,
and then part of her tail and she is still so young :-(
I know what you mean about vets with no social skills with owners, it really
does not help you when you are out of your mind with worry.  You might
mention it to your vet when he gets back.  He could lose clients like this.
It's all very well being technically skilled but being able to inform and
reassure the owners is very important too.
You did the right thing too, by taking her back to be closely confined to
aid the healing process, IMO.  Try not to worry *too* much. Easily said than
done, I know.   She is a young cat and should bounce back from this.
We send purrs.

Tweed
Adrian A - 30 Aug 2007 19:16 GMT
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> Please send purrs that she has a reasonable night, and I get some
> sleep and that I don't worry *too* much. :((
>
> Thanks
> Helen M

Purrs for Miss Lily Whiskers and purrs for you to get some sleep tonight.
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Karen - 30 Aug 2007 19:48 GMT
OMG this is horrible! Poor Miss Lily! Mega purrs coming for her. Do you have
any idea of what happened? Not that it matters I guess but OMG this is so
sad!

> Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
> picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Thanks
> Helen M
Takayuki - 30 Aug 2007 19:57 GMT
>Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
>picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>because the bandage was soaked in 30 seconds flat. So straight back
>off to the vet we went.

Poor poor thing!  Purrs that being overnight at TED will make it heal.
jmcquown - 30 Aug 2007 21:20 GMT
> I don't know what to make of this locum vet. He certainly seems very
> competent and good with the animals, and Michael (normal TED) would
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Thanks
> Helen M

She'll be fine, Helen.  Purrs for you to calm down.  I'm sure the regular
vet wouldn't leave him in charge if he wasn't competent.

Jill
Yowie - 30 Aug 2007 21:49 GMT
Poor Miss Lily Whiskers!

Purrs a plenty coming her way - and a goodly few to her worried Meowmie too.

Yowie

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> Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
> picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Thanks
> Helen M
Joy - 30 Aug 2007 22:17 GMT
Purrs for Miss Lily Whiskers, and for you.

((((((((Helen))))))))

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> Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
> picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Thanks
> Helen M
Victor Martinez - 31 Aug 2007 00:15 GMT
> Please send purrs that she has a reasonable night, and I get some
> sleep and that I don't worry *too* much. :((

Lots of purrs... could you borrow a crate and try to keep her confined
at home if necessary?

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Chris Havlicek - 31 Aug 2007 00:20 GMT
Ow!  Many more purrs from over the pond for Miss Lily to
heal up quickly, *not* smack her tail again, and for you
to not worry *too* much while she's back at TED.

We've got one TED here at Pender that can be a bit like that.
I just make sure I ask more questions.  Eventually, she gets
a bit more informative...maybe realizing that it's *my* cat,
and I'm d*mn well going to learn what I need to do before I walk
out, even if I have to stand in the door and keep her from
leaving...;)  Maybe you can teach *him* how to properly treat
the clients, especially when it's a worried pet owner...  Not that
you want to be bothered with that right now.....

Just hope that Miss Lily heals up quickly.  I'll give Oreo the
feral a bit more wet food tonight...that'll *definitely* get
the purrs going from him.  My crew'll supply purrs even without
the extra food, but it doesn't hurt...:)

Hope everything goes well and smoothly!!

Purrs and good healing thoughts-

Chris, Tripper, Katie, Hazard and Oreo the feral
> Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
> picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Thanks
> Helen M
Lucys Mom - 31 Aug 2007 02:26 GMT
The Lucy-monster and Miss Tiger Princess are purring up a storm
here...

Keep us posted....

--Eric, Kim and the Chigger Ranch Crew
On Aug 30, 11:53 am, leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
> picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Thanks
> Helen M
Enfilade - 31 Aug 2007 02:46 GMT
> > Please send purrs that she has a reasonable night, and I get some
> > sleep and that I don't worry *too* much. :((

Poor Lily...many purrs!

*goes to find the thread that says what happened to her tail!*

--Fil
Gandalf - 31 Aug 2007 03:09 GMT
>Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
>picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>Thanks
>Helen M

Purrs for Miss Lily Whiskers to stay quiet long enough for some healing
of her poor, shortened tail.

Purrs for your nerves, as well.

~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Life without cats would be only marginally worth living."
-TC, and the unmercifully, relentlessly, sweet calico kitty, Kenzie.

How you behave towards cats here below determines your status in Heaven.
- Robert Heinlein

Life is very difficult. Once you understand that, life becomes easier.
-Buddha
sam - 31 Aug 2007 03:17 GMT
> Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
> picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Thanks
> Helen M

The purrs shall continue, both for Miss Lilly Whiskers and for you.

Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
Gabey8 - 31 Aug 2007 04:24 GMT
I just got to RPCA for the first time today, so this is the first I\'ve
seen about Miss Lily Whiskers. I\'m pleased she came through the surgery,
and purrs and prayers are on the way for her speedy recovery. And also for
your poor nerves.

Meowmies and Paws need nine lives even more than our furkids do,
sometimes.

Donna, Captain, and Stanley

P.S. to Miss Lily Whiskers: Don\'t worry, you\'ll be able to do Kitty
Semaphore just fine once your tail\'s all better!

Captain and Stanley
Shiral - 31 Aug 2007 06:58 GMT
On Aug 30, 9:53 am, leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
> picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Thanks
> Helen M

So sorry to miss the original tale of Lily's mishap, Helen! =o( Poor
baby, she's had a hard life!

I hope her poor tail heals up soon, and that you won't worry too much
about her in the meantime. Nuts to the brusque, dismissive vet.

Melissa
Dewi - 31 Aug 2007 08:09 GMT
Purrs being sent for MLW and yourself. I hope she gets back to you
soon.

Dewi
Lesley - 31 Aug 2007 09:33 GMT
>Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
>picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
>anaesthetic OK, and seemed OK when I got her. I

Purring for her and you to have a restful night

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
polonca12000 - 06 Sep 2007 21:56 GMT
> Well, Miss Lily Whiskers is now minus 2 inches of her tail. :(( I
> picked her up at 4.30pm, and brought her home. She came through the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Thanks
> Helen M

I hope she is feeling much better by now.
Lots of healing purrs and best wishes for Miss Lily and hugs for you, Helen,
Polonca and Soncek

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