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UPDATE: Possible Job???

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jmcquown - 09 Nov 2004 13:38 GMT
I really shouldn't call this an "update".  I'm still sort of in limbo.  The
manager of 'Charlotte' was supposed to call me Sunday afternoon.  She
didn't, so a hour before they closed I called and was told she was with a
customer.  I didn't hear back from her that day.

Yesterday morning as soon as they opened I called.  She said she had
attempted to call me but got a message "This line is busy" (don't you hate
that? No, you cannot automatically redial my call for a charge of 50
cents!).  I had not been on the phone so perhaps *she* got busy and simply
forgot, or dialed the number incorrectly.  At any rate, she told me she has
an employee who is a student who expressed interest in working more hours.
Did I want full time or part time work?  (I'd prefer full time, but hey,
part time is better than *no* time, right?)  I told her I would take either
one at this point, although I do still prefer to work days.  She said she
would work on the schedule and get back in touch.

I didn't really ask, but if she's working on the schedule, with the
inference I'm part of the schedule, is it safe to assume I have a job?
Remember, she gave me the application to take with me and bring back when
next we meet; she doesn't even have it yet!

And of course, I didn't want to be pushy.  But when I hung up the phone I
was thinking about the other employee who wants more hours.  A student.
Yes, there certainly *are* older students.  But the image that flashed
through my mind was that of a young person, perhaps living with her parents
or at least sharing a place with roommates.  Perhaps wanting more money for
holiday gifts, clothes, parties.  (My instincts are usually correct.)  I'm a
middled aged woman who lost considerable income and *probably* have more
bills than she does.  But I was afraid if I said it must be full time it
would look like I was trying to displace the request of an existing employee
so I didn't.  Do you think this was the correct approach?

One odd thing, which I didn't remember until after I'd initially talked with
her last Saturday:  early in the morning before I went to apply in the
shops, I dreamed about a jewlery store. <theme from the Twilight Zone
playing in my head>

Jill
Cheryl Perkins - 09 Nov 2004 14:07 GMT
ARRRGH, that nerve-wracking period when you think you might have the job,
but you aren't sure! Purrs and best wishes that it all works out!

> I didn't really ask, but if she's working on the schedule, with the
> inference I'm part of the schedule, is it safe to assume I have a job?
> Remember, she gave me the application to take with me and bring back when
> next we meet; she doesn't even have it yet!

Well, 'working on the schedule' sounds very good, but I do feel more
comfortable if the potential employer has the paperwork in hand too - has
received my application form and/or resume, has had a chance to check
references etc.

<snip>
> bills than she does.  But I was afraid if I said it must be full time it
> would look like I was trying to displace the request of an existing employee
> so I didn't.  Do you think this was the correct approach?

Well, all you can do is be honest about what you can accept. I sometimes
have have difficulty with walking the line between being assertive and
being aggressive - ie I don't always know if ai put myself forward
forcefully enough. Still, if you *do* get the job, you don't want the
existing employee to think you were trying to edge her out - getting
along in the workplace is very important to keeping the job! As a middle
aged woman who was recently in the job market and who is still keeping an
eye out, I know what it's like to realize that a lot of the competition is
very young, and seems to have money to spare. Still, I don't know how
students make ends meet today at all; tuition costs and such seem to have
gone up so much, even compared to the rise in other costs.

I agreed to accept part time jobs on the grounds that (a) I needed the
money and (b) I wanted a foot in the door so if something else came along,
I'd have recent experience and (hopefully) a good reference from someone
for the sort of job I was looking for. It worked for me - I'm now working
contract, not permanent, but it's full time, 12 months so I'm happy.

> One odd thing, which I didn't remember until after I'd initially talked with
> her last Saturday:  early in the morning before I went to apply in the
> shops, I dreamed about a jewlery store. <theme from the Twilight Zone
> playing in my head>

Someone was talking about dreams in an interview I heard recently. He
thought they were extremely meaningful, but the symbolism was highly
personal, and although consulting a highly-trained expert in the field
could help, most people can interpret their dreams themselves. After all,
they know far more about what's going on in their lives and what types of
symbols they tend to use than anyone else does.

So the jewellry store in your dream might have symbolized something else,
or it might not, but it's up to you to decide!

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Cheryl

Enfilade - 09 Nov 2004 21:24 GMT
"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:<OI3kd.7At any rate, she told me she has
> an employee who is a student who expressed interest in working more hours.
> Did I want full time or part time work?  (I'd prefer full time, but hey,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Remember, she gave me the application to take with me and bring back when
> next we meet; she doesn't even have it yet!

Sounds like she certainly has you in mind; but don't take anything for
granted.  Call her if she doesn't get back in touch with you in a day
or two.  And get her that application ASAP!

> And of course, I didn't want to be pushy.  But when I hung up the phone I
> was thinking about the other employee who wants more hours.  A student.
> Yes, there certainly *are* older students.  But the image that flashed
> through my mind was that of a young person, perhaps living with her parents
> or at least sharing a place with roommates.  Perhaps wanting more money for
> holiday gifts, clothes, parties.  (My instincts are usually correct.)

Yes, they are.  But I remember my student days living in the
principal's attic/on friend's couches/in a car.  Not every student
wants party money.  (And to be honest, you won't get anywhere but
bitter playing the "who-needs-the-money-more" game, as I found out)
Besides, if you were already working there and asked for extended
hours, wouldn't you be annoyed if the manager hired someone else for,
say, full time instead?  (And now I'm back to being a student
again...)

I'm a
> middled aged woman who lost considerable income and *probably* have more
> bills than she does.  But I was afraid if I said it must be full time it
> would look like I was trying to displace the request of an existing employee
> so I didn't.  Do you think this was the correct approach?

Yes, I think so.  It's easier for a boss to say, "Well, if this person
insists on full time then it's easier to pick someone else who will
take either."  Right now it seems to me you just want work; if someone
makes you a better offer later on, you can take it later on, but right
now, take what you can get.

Purrs, purrs.

--Enfilade

(who greatly respects those with the patience to work in retail,
because I found out I haven't got it.)
jmcquown - 09 Nov 2004 23:26 GMT
> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:<OI3kd.7At
>> middled aged woman who lost considerable income and *probably* have
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> makes you a better offer later on, you can take it later on, but right
> now, take what you can get.

Good, I feel I reacted appropriately.  And I'll drop the application by
tomorrow.  Seeing me face to face might just move things along, too.

> Purrs, purrs.

Thanks!

> --Enfilade
>
> (who greatly respects those with the patience to work in retail,
> because I found out I haven't got it.)

Heh, I worked retail years ago so I know what it's like.  It beats the hell
out of restaurant work (done that, too).  But I learned *patience* doing
software tech support over the phone for years.  I'm sure you can imagine
what it's like trying to talk a computer illiterate person through something
when you have to explain, oh so patiently, what an 'icon' is ;)
Comparatively speaking, retail is a breeze.  And this is an upscale jewelry
store... not like I'll be selling fashionably torn bluejeans to
you-know-what kind of customer LOL

Jill
 
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