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Baha - 28 Aug 2007 19:13 GMT
We took our Dolly to the vet over the weekend and, after she beat the snot
out of me and put up admirable strength resisting the carrier, we were told
that her emergency surgery was coming along on a nice road to recovery. The
sutures are still there though dissolving, and her appetite rivals Brandy's
for unabashed gluttony.

To those who are already wondering, no purpose-driven farts were emitted in
the general direction of myself, Louie or any brave member of our veterinary
staff.

Now we have the issue of the appetite. Odessa-doll has been throwing princess
fits over her food again, something I haven't seen in a long while: grumbling,
muttering vulgarities and turning her nose up at the soft food we had been
giving her after the operation. She wants those crunchies and she wants them
NOW dammit, and the vet said we might give her some small kibble. Problem is
she's chowing it all whole and doing so very fast, and it makes her just york
it up again in short order. But offer her the soft and it's another tantrum.
I don't need to have kids, I have five toddler cats with attitudes...I had
forgotten how well our innocent-looking Dolly can cuss! She is named after a
seaport city so it's no surprise she swears like a sailor. Any ideas on
getting our princess some crunchies? Or getting her to eat them slowly and
not with the voracity of a long-haul trucker on the road? And as she can't
chew a pack of Orbit, some tips on cleaning up that dirty mouth of hers? :-)

Blessed be,
Baha
GaDragonfly - 28 Aug 2007 21:00 GMT
> We took our Dolly to the vet over the weekend and, after she beat the snot
> out of me and put up admirable strength resisting the carrier, we were told
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Baha,

Purrs on the way for Odessa to continue feeling well.  Maybe if you
only give her 5 or 6 pieces at a time she'd eat those fast then wait
for the next 5 or 6.  As far as the dirty mouth, we had a liquid
bacteria fighting additive for the cat's water.  The vet gave it to us
when Hobbes had bacteria causing bad breath and the vet wanted to wait
until we got his diabetes under control before doing a dental.  It
helped with Hobbes, should I send you a pint?

Julie
Baha - 28 Aug 2007 21:44 GMT
>Purrs on the way for Odessa to continue feeling well.  Maybe if you
>only give her 5 or 6 pieces at a time she'd eat those fast then wait
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>until we got his diabetes under control before doing a dental.  It
>helped with Hobbes, should I send you a pint?

We do have this squirt stuff, this rinse we give Roxie and Brandy; less an
additive than a mouthwash you can swallow. This will become part of the
Doll's regimen when the sutures are gone, along with brushing. I'm interested
in the additive though. Maybe it'll do some good for all five of my little
ones. Sabrina and Stosh are good in the teeth department but I want to stave
off any more dental nasties as much as possible. let me know more about it,
please, and many thanks.

Blessed be,
Baha
GaDragonfly - 29 Aug 2007 03:31 GMT
> >Purrs on the way for Odessa to continue feeling well.  Maybe if you
> >only give her 5 or 6 pieces at a time she'd eat those fast then wait
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Baha, The stuff I'm referring to is C.E.T. Aquadent

Formulated by veterinary dental specialists to help freshen your pet's
breath and prevent plaque accumulation when used in conjunction with a
regular home dental care program. simply add C.E.T. AquaDent to your
pet's drinking water to provide clinically tested dental care every
time your pet drinks.
Directions:
Intended for dogs and cats over 6 months of age. For dogs over 25 lbs.
add two teaspoonfuls (10 mL) of C.E.T. AquaDent to one quart (960 mL)
of fresh drinking water daily. For small dogs under 25 lbs. or cats,
add 1 teaspoonful (5 mL) of C.E.T. AquaDent to one pint (475 mL) of
fresh water. Provide additional non-treated water as needed. Discard
any treated water not consumed witin 24 hrs. Prepare fresh C.E.T
AquaDent solution each day. As with any product not intended for human
consumption, please keep out of reach of children.
Ingredients:
Xylitol and Chlorhexidine Gluconate in a proprietary alcohol-free
vehicle. Store at room temperature.

There are a couple of websites that sell Aquadent that say the product
has been discontinued. I can't find out why, but I'm about to fall
alseep and may not be looking as closely as I should. I would like to
know if the product has been discontinued and why. I always made
available two bowls of water, one treated and one pure water.  All of
our cats seemed to like the treated water and it certainly helped
Hobbes.  When I started using it he was bleeding from his gums and
drooling and his breath smelled like the litterbox! Within two weeks
of drinking this stuff and he was 95% better.  At his last vet
appointment they didn't even think he needed a dental.

There is a second website at http://www.purecats.com/products/Dental/
that sells feline dental products.  You might check them.  I noticed
several water additives that promote dental health.

Julie
Baha - 28 Aug 2007 21:47 GMT
And as she can't
>chew a pack of Orbit, some tips on cleaning up that dirty mouth of hers? :-)
>
>Blessed be,
>Baha

Okay, I have to say that was an ill-placed joke! Odessa and Sabrina are
masters at princess fits and hiss-and-growl, what I call uttering obscenities.

Blessed be from a sheepish
Baha
GaDragonfly - 28 Aug 2007 21:50 GMT
>  And as she can't
>
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I got the joke, but mouthwash was the only thing I could think of,
unless you want to try to wash her mouth out with soap
(bwwwuaaahhhhh).

Julie
I'll send you the info tonight
Baha - 29 Aug 2007 17:34 GMT
I figured you'd gotten it. I've been tired too; catching Odessa is my
calisthenics for the day. The mouthwash or water additive is a good idea
though. We'll have to start her on the squirt, but I'm quite interested in
something you can just add to water, and hope it's not discontinued. Stosh
and Sabrina would benefit from a few drops in the water dishes.

She actually munched down a can of Iams today without throwing a princess fit,
bless her, and without an impromptu prayer to the porcelain god (whose name,
incidentally, is Ralph.)

Blessed be,
Baha

>I got the joke, but mouthwash was the only thing I could think of,
>unless you want to try to wash her mouth out with soap
>(bwwwuaaahhhhh).

Yummmmm!
Karen AKA Kajikit - 28 Aug 2007 22:36 GMT
>Now we have the issue of the appetite. Odessa-doll has been throwing princess
>fits over her food again, something I haven't seen in a long while: grumbling,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>not with the voracity of a long-haul trucker on the road? And as she can't
>chew a pack of Orbit, some tips on cleaning up that dirty mouth of hers? :-)

About the only thing I can think of is to sit there and ration out her
kibble so she can't eat enough at one time to get sick - maybe a dozen
pieces max? Then 15 minutes later another ten? Maybe she'll stop
gulping so fast if she realises that there will always be more coming?
Christine K. - 29 Aug 2007 03:45 GMT
Karen AKA Kajikit kirjoitti:

>> Now we have the issue of the appetite. Odessa-doll has been throwing princess
>> fits over her food again, something I haven't seen in a long while: grumbling,
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> pieces max? Then 15 minutes later another ten? Maybe she'll stop
> gulping so fast if she realises that there will always be more coming?

Aren't there these food bowls with closed compartments that open
according to time? Meant, I believe, for when you have to leave your pet
alone for a while, but could perhaps work here too depending on how you
can set the timing thingy...

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Joy - 28 Aug 2007 23:20 GMT
> We took our Dolly to the vet over the weekend and, after she beat the snot
> out of me and put up admirable strength resisting the carrier, we were
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha

Maybe you could try crushing some of the kibble into crumbs.  If she ate
that, she might be able to keep it down.  Of course, she might not eat it,
but it could be worth a try.

Joy
Yowie - 29 Aug 2007 07:01 GMT
> We took our Dolly to the vet over the weekend and, after she beat the snot
> out of me and put up admirable strength resisting the carrier, we were
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> chew a pack of Orbit, some tips on cleaning up that dirty mouth of hers?
> :-)

Marbles.

Put the marbles in the food bowl so its about 1/4 marbles, 3/4 kibble. Mix.

They will then have to eat *around* the marbles. Which they will, but it
will slow them down. When they've finished, you can easily wash & dry the
marbles. If they do happen to swollow one (which is *highly* unlikely as
cats are well known for finding one tiny tablet mixed in with their food and
eat entirely around it, so they can deal with marbles) they are small,
dense, smooth, inert and should be able to come out the other end without a
huge struggle.

Thei 'natural' food would be on the ground and would start to have rocks and
other non-edibles mixed in as the meal continues, so sticking marbles in
their food dhsouldn't present a big problem. If you are worried, use the
'Tommy Knocker' ones that are slightly bigger.

Yowie
Jane - 29 Aug 2007 15:20 GMT
>Any ideas on
> getting our princess some crunchies? Or getting her to eat them slowly and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha

My sister's cats (both RB now) used to eat too fast and ralph it back
up, too, and
here's a trick that I believe I read on this group, many years ago!
Someone had a
horse that used to eat too fast, so they put some large clean rocks
into the grain
bucket to force the horse to slow down, because he had to eat around
the rocks.
My sister got some small plastic balls from a dollar store and mixed
them in with
the cat's food.  They are obviously too large for the cats to get
their mouths around,
and it really worked! They slowed down the eating and stopped throwing
up.

Try it.  It's cheap and won't hurt them.

Jane
- owned and operated by the Princess Rita
Stormmee - 29 Aug 2007 20:14 GMT
what if you powdered them in a food processor and sprinkled them on top of
the wet food?  Lee
> We took our Dolly to the vet over the weekend and, after she beat the snot
> out of me and put up admirable strength resisting the carrier, we were told
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polonca12000 - 05 Sep 2007 21:56 GMT
> We took our Dolly to the vet over the weekend and, after she beat the snot
> out of me and put up admirable strength resisting the carrier, we were told
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha

Lots and lots of purrs and best wishes for Odessa,
Polonca and Soncek

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