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Dot and Buster?
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Rhonda - 26 Aug 2007 21:30 GMT Okay, I'll admit I'm kind of addicted to the Dot and Buster story.
Any new installments? Any more licks or tandem greetings to their human?
Rhonda
Takayuki - 27 Aug 2007 02:15 GMT >Okay, I'll admit I'm kind of addicted to the Dot and Buster story. > >Any new installments? Any more licks or tandem greetings to their human? The game here is patience. :) Dot mostly confines herself to the kitchen, although I encourage her to come out under my supervision, and she'll also sometimes come out on her own.
This morning, I heard a purr and felt someone nuzzling my ear. I ignored it at first because I figured it was just Buster, but when I looked over, it was Dot! She likes to curl up and sleep with me when given the chance, and considers my bed her "home away from home" when she manages to get through the treacherous territory of Buster.
I also need to work on Buster, since it's clear now that he chases her in the living room. I still feed the two twice daily together, and also lure Dot with treats. This still is something that needs to be done under my aegis though.
I'm also trying to work out the issue of Dot's peeing on the kitchen floor. I have four litterboxes in there now, different sizes, different heights, covered, uncovered, full, empty, three types of litter, etc. All scooped twice a day. I'm trying to figure out what location characteristics make Dot prefer using the floor. I know it's probably partly because she's shy about using the box, and the kichen, naturally, is a busy area that can't just be closed off from me and Buster.
Karen - 27 Aug 2007 03:50 GMT > I also need to work on Buster, since it's clear now that he chases her > in the living room. I still feed the two twice daily together, and > also lure Dot with treats. This still is something that needs to be > done under my aegis though. You know, this was Pearl and SUgar. I've never totally gotten it out of Pearl's system and now, when it happens, it is definitely a game, with rules, understood by both (and I'm actually pleased when it happens because Pearl gets SOOOOO bored with her bad eyes), but early on it was a dominance thing. Time outs did the trick. If I consistantly put Pearl, the chaser, in the bedroom for a 10 minute time out, she studiously avoided chasing Sugar after a while, even when I could see she wanted to. Yes, ocassionally she would relapse, but the time out served its function well. It was only 10 minutes, but she understood that to chase Sugar was a time out offense.
Takayuki - 27 Aug 2007 14:59 GMT >> I also need to work on Buster, since it's clear now that he chases her >> in the living room. I still feed the two twice daily together, and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >served its function well. It was only 10 minutes, but she understood >that to chase Sugar was a time out offense. That's wonderful for them. I hope that the time will come when it'll be a game to mine, too. Dot is a temperamental little thing. :) But she's a sweet lap and bed kitty, and I feel for her emotional needs. For two days in a row, she's been choosing to pee in an *empty* litterbox that I set up as an experiment, which is so odd, but it's certainly better than her using the floor. :)
Buster is also an extremely loving kitty, but in a more exuberant way.
In my mind, I can picture these two getting along well with each other, even if it hasn't happened yet.
Lesley - 27 Aug 2007 15:29 GMT , she's been choosing to pee in an *empty*
> litterbox that I set up as an experiment, which is so odd, but it's > certainly better than her using the floor. :) I wonder if she doesn't like the litter you're using- I know when years ago I forgot to get the right brand and got another one, Fugazi and Isis were most put out! They would pee around the edges of the tray since they could balance on the edge and not have to put their paws in this strange alien litter. Fugazi would do anything else on the floor and Isis would rather pointedly wait until she had a Hoomin witness and then make a big thing of getting into the box with a pained expression as if to say "I am too much of a lady to take a dump on the floor but if you get this rubbish again I may forget my manners"
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Marina - 27 Aug 2007 17:55 GMT > That's wonderful for them. I hope that the time will come when it'll > be a game to mine, too. Dot is a temperamental little thing. :) But > she's a sweet lap and bed kitty, and I feel for her emotional needs. > For two days in a row, she's been choosing to pee in an *empty* > litterbox that I set up as an experiment, which is so odd, but it's > certainly better than her using the floor. :) I think you said that you have different brands of litter in the other boxes? Maybe she doesn't like the feel of litter. When I was a student and didn't have much koney, I used to shred newspapers for Frank's and Nikki's boxes. It's a bit messier than litter, and you have to clean the boxes at least twice a day, or even more often. But maybe it would be worth a try? Or maybe just put a newspaper on the bottom of the box, if you don't feel like shredding one (I used to shred enough for one day in about an hour, sitting in front of the TV :) ).
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Karen - 28 Aug 2007 03:03 GMT >> That's wonderful for them. I hope that the time will come when it'll >> be a game to mine, too. Dot is a temperamental little thing. :) But [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > if you don't feel like shredding one (I used to shred enough for one > day in about an hour, sitting in front of the TV :) ). If she liked newspaper, you could even try a layer on top of litter.
Takayuki - 28 Aug 2007 13:40 GMT >> I think you said that you have different brands of litter in the other >> boxes? Maybe she doesn't like the feel of litter. When I was a student [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >If she liked newspaper, you could even try a layer on top of litter. Good ideas! I don't get newspapers though, and I'd be worried about the ink, but I'll have to consider other types of litter. She just peed today in another empty litterbox I set up yesterday. Another difference with the empty litterboxes is that they don't have "lips" on them... But Dot's used lipped litterboxes before.
You know, also around the time I let Buster mingle more with Dot, I started using a different litter. Actually, it was the same litter, but the manufacturer changed the formula and consistency.
Christina Websell - 28 Aug 2007 21:03 GMT >>> I think you said that you have different brands of litter in the other >>> boxes? Maybe she doesn't like the feel of litter. When I was a student [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > started using a different litter. Actually, it was the same litter, > but the manufacturer changed the formula and consistency. Do you know whether Dot was ever an outside kitty that was perhaps used to only eliminating in soil (earth)? Just a thought. I've used soil, gradually changing to litter to get KFC to use a box when she started to forget to go outside. I used soil in a box for Boyfie the one time he had to stay inside overnight, before his snip. He held out and held out even so, but just before our appointment at the vets he just *had* to go. This was a mega-two-minute pee. I really felt for him as I know he does not believe that it's okay for him to *go* inside the house. Ever. He must have been absolutely bursting.
Tweed
Magic Mood Jeep - 28 Aug 2007 21:12 GMT >>>> I think you said that you have different brands of litter in the other >>>> boxes? Maybe she doesn't like the feel of litter. When I was a student [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> difference with the empty litterboxes is that they don't have "lips" >> on them... But Dot's used lipped litterboxes before. Today's newspaper inks are mostly soy-based and biodegradable. That was one of the main things when 'recycling' came around. Since used newspaper sent for recycling is used to make more newspaper (among other things, such as egg cartons), the ink must be "washable" as well.
>> You know, also around the time I let Buster mingle more with Dot, I >> started using a different litter. Actually, it was the same litter, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Tweed Poor Boyfie - bursting at the seams!
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Christina Websell - 28 Aug 2007 21:56 GMT "Magic Mood Jeep" <Nobody@Nowhere.Net> wrote in message >>
> Poor Boyfie - bursting at the seams! > > Mimi wishes her Sweet Boyfie well. Boyfie has not forgotten that Mimi is his beloved, not at all. He wishes to say that he does truly love her and is sorry he's not had chance to say this lately. All his awake time is taken up with catching mowsies and small ratties but his sleep time is dreams of his Mimi. He likes a fat girl, so nice to cuddle with.
Tweed
Takayuki - 29 Aug 2007 13:40 GMT >Do you know whether Dot was ever an outside kitty that was perhaps used to >only eliminating in soil (earth)? Just a thought. I'm still puzzling this out. Yesterday, I set up two litterboxes, unlipped and uncovered, side by side, one empty, and one with a thin layer of regular litter in it. She liked the one with litter in it so much that she used it while I was in the room, which is very rare.
So I feel that we're getting there - each day's experiment brings some new data, and in the meantime, she's not peeing on the floor. :)
Jane - 29 Aug 2007 15:23 GMT > >Do you know whether Dot was ever an outside kitty that was perhaps used to > >only eliminating in soil (earth)? Just a thought. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > So I feel that we're getting there - each day's experiment brings some > new data, and in the meantime, she's not peeing on the floor. :) Maybe she just needs company? Or perhaps a tiny newspaper? *snicker*
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jofirey - 27 Aug 2007 19:32 GMT >>> I also need to work on Buster, since it's clear now that he chases her >>> in the living room. I still feed the two twice daily together, and [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > litterbox that I set up as an experiment, which is so odd, but it's > certainly better than her using the floor. :) Is it possible that Dot was allowed outside before? It really sounds as if she is opposed to the litter rather than the box.
I'd be going through the brands looking for one she likes. Maybe a plain clay litter would suit her highness.
Jo
Karen - 28 Aug 2007 03:04 GMT >>>> I also need to work on Buster, since it's clear now that he chases her >>>> in the living room. I still feed the two twice daily together, and [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Jo Never thought of that. Wonder if she would like dirt?
Christina Websell - 28 Aug 2007 21:22 GMT >>>>> I also need to work on Buster, since it's clear now that he chases her >>>>> in the living room. I still feed the two twice daily together, and [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Never thought of that. Wonder if she would like dirt? Ah, yes, that's what I meant. Earth, soil, the stuff that you can dig up from your garden. You call it dirt? Dirt means something different here.
Tweed
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 28 Aug 2007 21:56 GMT >> Never thought of that. Wonder if she would like dirt?
> Ah, yes, that's what I meant. Earth, soil, the stuff that you can dig up > from your garden. You call it dirt? > Dirt means something different here. Such as? I'm almost afraid to ask. :)
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Christina Websell - 28 Aug 2007 22:26 GMT > >> Never thought of that. Wonder if she would like dirt? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Such as? I'm almost afraid to ask. :) No, it's not bad at all. Help me out here you Brits, define the meaning of dirt here (all meanings) Take the opportunity to advise America.
( please excuse ) I just could *not* help replying.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 28 Aug 2007 22:34 GMT > <jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>> Dirt means something different here.
>> Such as? I'm almost afraid to ask. :)
> No, it's not bad at all. Help me out here you Brits, define the > meaning of dirt here (all meanings) Take the opportunity to advise > America. American meanings: moist sand containing living matter (ie, "the ground"). Also, the information that comprises gossip, as in "gimme the dirt" (tell me what's going on with so-and-so). It also means excrement, particularly in reference to animals and bugs - that's what I thought you were going to say.
I'm now quite curious as to what else it might mean!
> ( please excuse ) I just could *not* help replying. Why does replying require an excuse?
Joyce
Karen - 28 Aug 2007 22:51 GMT > > <jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Joyce Or "as old as dirt". Basically it's earth. Soil. I had no idea it was different in Britain.
Karen - 28 Aug 2007 22:57 GMT >> > <jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Or "as old as dirt". Basically it's earth. Soil. I had no idea it was > different in Britain. OK, I've been thinking. Is it more like personal dirt? I mean, I read stuff like "sitting down in all your dirt" meaning you came in from outside, or riding or something all sweaty and, well, not freshened?
Debbie Wilson - 29 Aug 2007 07:48 GMT > American meanings: moist sand containing living matter (ie, "the ground"). > Also, the information that comprises gossip, as in "gimme the dirt" (tell > me what's going on with so-and-so). It also means excrement, particularly > in reference to animals and bugs - that's what I thought you were going > to say. I would say it's the same useage here in the UK, with the exception of excrement, although if you said someone/something had 'dirtied themselves', that's what it would mean. Confused yet? ;-)
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jofirey - 29 Aug 2007 02:25 GMT >>>>>> I also need to work on Buster, since it's clear now that he chases >>>>>> her [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Tweed Only meanings I can think of in the US are earth, ie the stuff in the garden you plant things in. Also that would be called soil. Then something covered or even slighted dusted with the stuff would be called soiled or dirty. Something not clean my extension then would by extension be called soiled or dirty. Anything from a house to ones person or ones reputation would quality.
Then dirt can be used to describe gossip, particularly unsavory gossip. And it can be used interchangeably with filth to describe sexually explicit books or movies.
It can but usually isn't used to refer to feces. Such as the flea droppings you might find on a dog or cat.
Jo
Takayuki - 28 Aug 2007 13:42 GMT >Is it possible that Dot was allowed outside before? It really sounds as if >she is opposed to the litter rather than the box. > >I'd be going through the brands looking for one she likes. Maybe a plain >clay litter would suit her highness. I'm not sure if she was ever let out, but she doesn't seem to have any particular interest in the "out". I'll have to try different brands, as you say.
Karen - 28 Aug 2007 03:01 GMT >>> I also need to work on Buster, since it's clear now that he chases her >>> in the living room. I still feed the two twice daily together, and [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > litterbox that I set up as an experiment, which is so odd, but it's > certainly better than her using the floor. :) Huh. So maybe she doesn't like litter! It's possible. I wonder about shredded newspaper.
> Buster is also an extremely loving kitty, but in a more exuberant way. > > In my mind, I can picture these two getting along well with each > other, even if it hasn't happened yet.
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