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[Totally OT] Fruit Theology

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Yowie - 08 Nov 2004 23:15 GMT
'Tis the start of Mango season here in the antipodes, and yesterday I had
the pleasure and delight on consuming my first one for the season, and a
mighty fine specimen it was too.

Whilst enjoying its heady delights, I mentioned in passing that the Mango
was proof of an Intelligent Creator. My beloved, somewhat used to my strange
mental meanderings asked "How so?". To which I replied "I can't believe that
something this wonderful and perfect", indicating the half consumed mango,
with its juice dripping onto my chest, "could come about simply by random
mutation".

My beloved pondered upon this for the length it took me to finish the fruit
ambrosia, and then replied "But if that is true, then your Creator God is a
horrid bastard."

My raised eyebrow and quizzical look suggested he should continue.

"Because if he created the Mango, the world's most perfect fruit, then he
also created the brussel sprout, which is known far and wide to all children
as being worse than snot balls. Since many many children, including you and
I, have been forced to eat these monstrositities under the guise of 'for
your own good' and 'if you dont' eat your veggies you won't get dessert',
one can only conclude that any god that created such vile things must
therefore be cruel and evil. QED"

Does the presence of heavenly mangoes in this universe balance out the
heiniousness of the brussel sprout? Perhaps the brussel sprout is the
anti-god vegetable? My partner's interesting rebuttel has not made me
abandon my belief that mangoes are the ultimate in natural food, the nectar
of heaven, fruit of the gods, nor that brussel srpouts are simply vile and
disgusting. However, I do note that whilst my parents still indulge in
mangoes when they can, since my sister and I moved out they no longer eat
brussel sprouts. Perhaps they no longer need the spectre of the devilish
brussel sprout to scare us kids into behaving.

This theory, plus US$100 will get you a doctorate of theology from a world
renown university with a post office box address.

Yowie
Christina Websell - 08 Nov 2004 23:32 GMT
I must be some sort of a mutant.  I don't care for mangos, they are too sort
of scented tasting, but I simply love brussels sprouts.
I'm not ashamed either...

Tweed

> 'Tis the start of Mango season here in the antipodes, and yesterday I had
> the pleasure and delight on consuming my first one for the season, and a
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>
> Yowie
Nina K Pettis - 08 Nov 2004 23:42 GMT
> I must be some sort of a mutant.  I don't care for mangos, they are too sort
> of scented tasting, but I simply love brussels sprouts.
> I'm not ashamed either...

I like both of them, but I have to confess I've never eaten a ripe,
juicy mango.  How do you pick one for ripeness?  Do you peel them?
Wasn't there something about the seed being a Bad Thing?  There are just
too many questions for me...

Organic dried mango (unsweetened, not gummy or sticky) from Central
Market is my current addiction.  Luckily, it's really low on the Weight
Watchers point scale, or I'd be packing the pounds back on...

Nina in Texas, enslaved by:
Snickelfritz (RB), Pixel (RB), Rusty (RB), Skeeter, Kyle, Jake, and
Mycro (and Abbie, the d*g but a fine person for all of that)

>>'Tis the start of Mango season here in the antipodes, and yesterday I had
>>the pleasure and delight on consuming my first one for the season, and a
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>>
>>Yowie
Yowie - 09 Nov 2004 00:04 GMT
> > I must be some sort of a mutant.  I don't care for mangos, they are too sort
> > of scented tasting, but I simply love brussels sprouts.
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> Wasn't there something about the seed being a Bad Thing?  There are just
> too many questions for me...

You select the mango based on smell.The stronger the mango smell, the better
it will be.

The general eating method it to slice off the two "cheeks" with the skin on,
cross hatch the flesh, and then press the cheek inwards so that the cross
hatches turn into sticking-out cubes fromthe skin. You just eat them there
and then. Youcan also peel the mango and eat it like any other fruit, but
they are very sticky and slippery, and the pit is big and tends be be quite
fibrous. I get my money's worth and once I've eaten the cubed bits from the
cheeks of the mango, I then scrape the remaining flesh fromthe skin, and
then start sucking onthe pit. The only draw back tot heat is getting the
mango fibres stuck in your teeth - but thats a small price to pay for the
the indulgence.

I have never met a brussel sprout I have enjoyed. However, I must admit that
they are greatly improved if they aren't boiled to a greeny yellow moosh, as
they were when I was a kid. Done like that, I can eat them as part of a
meal, although wouldn't go back for seconds. But if the cooked inthe
traditional English method - boiled to death - its hard to think of a food
stuff I like less.

Yowie
Christina Websell - 09 Nov 2004 01:36 GMT
> I have never met a brussel sprout I have enjoyed. However, I must admit
> that
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>
> Yowie

Oh.. the traditional English method!  Long gone.
Cooked just long enough to be just soft, but not mushy, they are very much
enjoyed on Christmas Day, along with the turkey, stuffing, mashed and roast
potatoes, chipolatas (sp) wrapped in bacon, with carrots, peas etc.
Yorkshire pudding too in my family.  Followed by Christmas pudding with
brandy butter.  Yummy.

Tweed
Cathi - 09 Nov 2004 07:13 GMT
>I have never met a brussel sprout I have enjoyed. However, I must admit that
>they are greatly improved if they aren't boiled to a greeny yellow moosh, as
>they were when I was a kid. Done like that, I can eat them as part of a
>meal, although wouldn't go back for seconds. But if the cooked inthe
>traditional English method - boiled to death - its hard to think of a food
>stuff I like less.

Ah, school dinner sprouts.  Their delicate aroma wafting in the breeze
as I walked to school ..... As you say, boiling them until they're done,
then a couple of hours extra just in case, totally destroys them.
Somewhere I've got a recipe which calls for them shredded and stir-fried
with a smidge of five spice powder and some lemon juice, if I recall
correctly.  And very nice it is too.

Mangos?  Dribble .... drool ..... whipped up with cream in a fool, or
freeze the mix and call it ice cream .... cubed with avocado, onion, a
small fresh chilli, some lime juice and chopped coriander for a salsa
.... someone stop me, please!.
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Jo Firey - 09 Nov 2004 16:16 GMT
>>I have never met a brussel sprout I have enjoyed. However, I must admit
>>that
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> small fresh chilli, some lime juice and chopped coriander for a salsa ....
> someone stop me, please!.

I've got to make the salsa.  Charlie swears he doesn't like mango's.  But he
will eat anything if you spice it up and call it salsa.  Over grilled fish
maybe?

Jo
Marina - 09 Nov 2004 17:05 GMT
> Ah, school dinner sprouts.  Their delicate aroma wafting in the breeze
> as I walked to school ..... As you say, boiling them until they're done,
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> small fresh chilli, some lime juice and chopped coriander for a salsa
> .... someone stop me, please!.

No, no, don't stop! More recipes! :o)

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Cathi - 09 Nov 2004 18:40 GMT
>No, no, don't stop! More recipes! :o)

Now now Marina .... you know that to tease out the best recipes, you
have to be a troll!
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Marina - 10 Nov 2004 04:21 GMT
>> No, no, don't stop! More recipes! :o)
>>
> Now now Marina .... you know that to tease out the best recipes, you
> have to be a troll!

OK. Ummm... you mumu-wearing, basket-weaving crazy old cat ladies! Get a
life! ... How's that?

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Seanette Blaylock - 10 Nov 2004 06:15 GMT
Marina <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> had some very interesting things to
say about Re: [Totally OT] Fruit Theology:

>>> No, no, don't stop! More recipes! :o)
>> Now now Marina .... you know that to tease out the best recipes, you
>> have to be a troll!
>OK. Ummm... you mumu-wearing, basket-weaving crazy old cat ladies! Get a
>life! ... How's that?

Feeble. :-)

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Yowie - 11 Nov 2004 05:02 GMT
> >I have never met a brussel sprout I have enjoyed. However, I must admit that
> >they are greatly improved if they aren't boiled to a greeny yellow moosh, as
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> small fresh chilli, some lime juice and chopped coriander for a salsa
> .... someone stop me, please!.

Not sure what a "fool" is, but mooshed mango and sour cream, perhaps with a
small amount of sugar, is *incredible*.

Mango chutney is also to die for:

Ingredients:
1 kg firm mango, chopped
1 large onion, chopped finely
2 cloves garlic, chopped finely
1 red chilli, chopped finely
1/2 cup sultanas
1 tbsp fresh ginger, grated
1 1/2 tbsp mustard seeds
1 cup vinegar
1 1/2 cup brown sugar
1 tsp Cinnamon
1 star anise (optional)
salt to taste

Method:
Combine all the ingredients in a heavy-bottomed pan and put it on medium
heat.
Cook for about 90 minutes till the chutney becomes slightly thick.
Keep the pan uncovered while cooking and stir occasionally to prevent it
from sticking to the bottom of the pan.
Allow to cool and store in clean, airtight containers.
Nina K Pettis - 09 Nov 2004 18:44 GMT
>>>I must be some sort of a mutant.  I don't care for mangos, they are too
>
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> mango fibres stuck in your teeth - but thats a small price to pay for the
> the indulgence.

No problem -- as I said, I'm on WW, so fiber is a Good Thing!  ;-)

Thank you for the explanation!

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Jean Hobbs - 16 Nov 2004 01:28 GMT
In the English method Yowie?  Its an individual method that does that!
I like *all* my vegies under cooked, even potatoes, except when I'm
mashing them I cannot stand anything over cooked, even meat.
  Under Cooked  Jean.

> > > I must be some sort of a mutant.  I don't care for mangos, they are too
> sort
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>
> Yowie
Victor Martinez - 09 Nov 2004 12:49 GMT
> Organic dried mango (unsweetened, not gummy or sticky) from Central
> Market is my current addiction.  Luckily, it's really low on the Weight

Mango season here in the northern hemisphere is in summer, I think.
Central Market gets lots of mangoes year round, but the best they sell
are those called "ataulfo". Those mangoes you can choose by color, if
it's completely yellow with perhaps a few black dots here and there,
it's ripe. You peel it and eat the flesh. I don't think the seed is
dangerous or anything, but it's definitely not good eats. :)

Victor, who dearly misses mango season in Mexico, in particular what we
call "manila" mangoes.
:(

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Nina K Pettis - 09 Nov 2004 18:42 GMT
>> Organic dried mango (unsweetened, not gummy or sticky) from Central
>> Market is my current addiction.  Luckily, it's really low on the Weight
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> it's ripe. You peel it and eat the flesh. I don't think the seed is
> dangerous or anything, but it's definitely not good eats. :)

Thank you, Victor; now I'll know what to look for!

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jmcquown - 08 Nov 2004 23:44 GMT
> I must be some sort of a mutant.  I don't care for mangos, they are
> too sort of scented tasting, but I simply love brussels sprouts.
> I'm not ashamed either...
>
> Tweed

I find mangoes to be mediocre at best (although my parrot likes them :) )  I
adore brussels sprouts!  Ever tried them 'escalloped'?  Halved, baked in a
cream sauce topped with buttered breadcrumbs and a sprinkling of grated
parmesan cheese.  Heaven!

Jill

>> 'Tis the start of Mango season here in the antipodes, and yesterday
>> I had the pleasure and delight on consuming my first one for the
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>>
>> Yowie
Christina Websell - 09 Nov 2004 01:41 GMT
>> I must be some sort of a mutant.  I don't care for mangos, they are
>> too sort of scented tasting, but I simply love brussels sprouts.
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>
> Jill

I'm going to try this, thanks, Jill.  Brussels sprouts are just coming into
season here in UK.
Sounds a bit calorific!

Tweed
Alphonze - 09 Nov 2004 04:19 GMT
> I must be some sort of a mutant.  I don't care for mangos, they are too sort
> of scented tasting, but I simply love brussels sprouts.
> I'm not ashamed either...

There's nothing to be ashamed of! Let us emerge from the brassica
closet and tell the world: We prefer sprouts to mangoes!

And while we're being culinarily controversial, lightly fried calves
liver is infinitely superior to even the best steak. There. I said it!

Al.
- Hungry now :)
Seanette Blaylock - 09 Nov 2004 04:27 GMT
alphonze@mail.com (Alphonze) had some very interesting things to say
about Re: [Totally OT] Fruit Theology:

>There's nothing to be ashamed of! Let us emerge from the brassica
>closet and tell the world: We prefer sprouts to mangoes!

And then there are those of us who dislike both. ;-)

>And while we're being culinarily controversial, lightly fried calves
>liver is infinitely superior to even the best steak. There. I said it!

Urgh! [barely managing to keep some rather good pork fried rice down]

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LMarks - 09 Nov 2004 14:02 GMT
> And while we're being culinarily controversial, lightly fried calves
> liver is infinitely superior to even the best steak. There. I said it!
>
> Al.
> - Hungry now :)

Oh YUM!!  As a small child I dearly loved fried calves liver and tomato
sandwiches........Lorna
Adrian - 10 Nov 2004 14:21 GMT
>> And while we're being culinarily controversial, lightly fried calves
>> liver is infinitely superior to even the best steak. There. I said
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Oh YUM!!  As a small child I dearly loved fried calves liver and
> tomato sandwiches........Lorna

I actually prefer pigs liver. :-) And I'll have my sprouts steamed
please, served with a knob of butter. Reading newsgroups makes you
hungry. :-)
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bonbon - 09 Nov 2004 15:45 GMT
>> I must be some sort of a mutant.  I don't care for mangos, they are too sort
>> of scented tasting, but I simply love brussels sprouts.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Al.
>- Hungry now :)

Mango's rule (unless you get a stringy one).

I think of brussels sprouts as little cabbage that weren't allowed to
grow up (but tolerable when compared to squash or beets).  

Baby cow innards?  I'd sooner eat squash or beets.

<g>

-bonbon
Marina - 09 Nov 2004 04:59 GMT
> I must be some sort of a mutant.  I don't care for mangos, they are too sort
> of scented tasting, but I simply love brussels sprouts.
> I'm not ashamed either...

I'm the same kind of mutant as you, then, Tweed. I love brussel sprouts,
especially if they are really fresh. Haven't eaten mango that often, and
I doubt the ones we get in our markets are very fresh, anyway.

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Annie Wxill - 08 Nov 2004 23:58 GMT
...>>
> Does the presence of heavenly mangoes in this universe balance out the
> heiniousness of the brussel sprout? Perhaps the brussel sprout is the
> anti-god vegetable? ..>
> Yowie
I happen to like steamed brussel sprouts. I think mangos are so-so, but
maybe I've never had an Australian mango.
Annie
badwilson - 09 Nov 2004 06:01 GMT
D*mn you, Yowie!  Mango season here where I live in Thailand is months
away (March/April) and you have re-awakened my deepest cravings!
However, they do have mango seasons elsewhere in Thailand and one can
find mangos all year round if one searches.  I know a place 45 minutes
away.  I will have to go on a mango road trip.  Mmmmm, I love mangos!
Also sticky rice and mango, aaaaaahhhh!
But, unlike you, I also like brussels sprouts.  I don't love them like
mangos, but I don't mind them at all.  I never used to like mangos
until we moved to Thailand.  The ones over here are just vastly
superior to any you can get in Canada.
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> 'Tis the start of Mango season here in the antipodes, and yesterday I had
> the pleasure and delight on consuming my first one for the season, and a
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
> Yowie
Jo Firey - 09 Nov 2004 16:19 GMT
> D*mn you, Yowie!  Mango season here where I live in Thailand is months
> away (March/April) and you have re-awakened my deepest cravings!
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> until we moved to Thailand.  The ones over here are just vastly
> superior to any you can get in Canada.

When they put the mangos out in the market here, you see all the families
originally from warmer climates buying them.  And hoping they will taste a
bit like they did at home.  Nothing brings immigrants from all corners of
the globe together like a shipment of really good mangos.

Jo
Mogget - 10 Nov 2004 00:06 GMT
>"Because if he created the Mango, the world's most perfect fruit, then he
>also created the brussel sprout, which is known far and wide to all children
>as being worse than snot balls.

No, no, no.  Brussels sprouts are little green bundles of joy.

Mr Mogget would like to suggest that some of us are in heaven, some of
us are in hell, and some of us are in limbo.  Some people like brussels
sprouts AND mangoes, which surely makes this a veritable paradise. Some
of us like one but not the other, and it is surely not inconceivable
that some poor damned souls enjoy the taste of neither.
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Seanette Blaylock - 10 Nov 2004 01:34 GMT
Mogget <bint@scat.demon.co.uk> had some very interesting things to say
about Re: [Totally OT] Fruit Theology:

>Mr Mogget would like to suggest that some of us are in heaven, some of
>us are in hell, and some of us are in limbo.  Some people like brussels
>sprouts AND mangoes, which surely makes this a veritable paradise. Some
>of us like one but not the other, and it is surely not inconceivable
>that some poor damned souls enjoy the taste of neither.

[waving] Count one "damned soul" over here. :-)

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Katrina - 10 Nov 2004 01:39 GMT
> Mogget <bint@scat.demon.co.uk> had some very interesting things to say
> about Re: [Totally OT] Fruit Theology:
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>
> [waving] Count one "damned soul" over here. :-)

Me too...
Napoleon - 10 Nov 2004 21:33 GMT
> 'Tis the start of Mango season here in the antipodes, and yesterday I had
> the pleasure and delight on consuming my first one for the season, and a
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
> Yowie

I actually like brussel sprouts; but then again I like most vegetables
with the exception of beets and cauliflower, a/k/a nature's version of
the rice cake.
Yowie - 11 Nov 2004 04:50 GMT
> > 'Tis the start of Mango season here in the antipodes, and yesterday I had
> > the pleasure and delight on consuming my first one for the season, and a
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> with the exception of beets and cauliflower, a/k/a nature's version of
> the rice cake.

Now see, I *like* beets (specially the picked ones on burgers) and
cauliflowers and, I even like rice cakes :-)

Yowie
Napoleon - 11 Nov 2004 20:17 GMT
> > "Yowie" <yowie9644.DIESPAMDIE@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>  news:<2vactpF2jb2bvU1@uni-berlin.de>...
[quoted text clipped - 62 lines]
>
> Yowie

I wonder if the rice cakes in Australia are the same as the ones in
the US-the ones you get here.  Eating the rice cakes you buy here is
like eating a disk of styrofoam. Anyway, it would be a much
lessinteresting world if everyone liked all the same things.

Well, maybe one or two exceptions to the rule.  If I heard someone say
they actually *disliked* ice cream, I would begin to wonder if the
movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" might have been based on a true
event.
Yowie - 11 Nov 2004 21:01 GMT
> > > "Yowie" <yowie9644.DIESPAMDIE@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> >  news:<2vactpF2jb2bvU1@uni-berlin.de>...
[quoted text clipped - 72 lines]
> movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" might have been based on a true
> event.

I went to one of htose stage hypnotists once, where they had people eating
imaginary icecreams by licking their hands. There was one girl who was most
distressed and was desperately trying to get rid of her hand (which was far
funnier than just watching other people lick their hands with great
enthusiasm). Fortunatley, we were sitting at the same table as her and her
friends, and her sister explained that she hated icecream and would always
feed it to the dog if some well meaning relative gave her some.

Not that I knew her personally of course, but there's always someone with
weird taste out there - like the people who *enjoy* brussel sprouts :-)

Oh, and I think our rice cakes taste extremely similar to puffed wheat,
which is one of my favourite breakfast cereals.

Yowie
Christina Websell - 11 Nov 2004 21:46 GMT
>> "Yowie" <yowie9644.DIESPAMDIE@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:<2vg9abF2mhimdU1@uni-berlin.de>...
>> > > "Yowie" <yowie9644.DIESPAMDIE@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>> >  news:<2vactpF2jb2bvU1@uni-berlin.de>...

>> I wonder if the rice cakes in Australia are the same as the ones in
>> the US-the ones you get here.  Eating the rice cakes you buy here is
>> like eating a disk of styrofoam.

It's just like that here in England.

>> Well, maybe one or two exceptions to the rule.  If I heard someone say
>> they actually *disliked* ice cream, I would begin to wonder if the
>> movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" might have been based on a true
>> event.

I've lost my taste for sweet things.  I no longer eat ice cream, or cakes,
or biscuits, or chocolate bars.

<snip>
> Not that I knew her personally of course, but there's always someone with
> weird taste out there - like the people who *enjoy* brussel sprouts :-)

I just love them.  Christmas dinner wouldn't be complete without them, in
fact I think I could eat a whole plateful on their own.  They are absolutely
yummy.

> Oh, and I think our rice cakes taste extremely similar to puffed wheat,
> which is one of my favourite breakfast cereals.

Rice cakes here are like eating polystyrene.  They are not on my menu.

Tweed
Adrian - 13 Nov 2004 11:17 GMT
> I went to one of htose stage hypnotists once, where they had people
> eating imaginary icecreams by licking their hands. There was one girl
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> Oh, and I think our rice cakes taste extremely similar to puffed
> wheat, which is one of my favourite breakfast cereals.

I'm sure someone, somewhere, would love brussel sprout flavourd ice
cream. ;-)
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Jean Hobbs - 16 Nov 2004 01:20 GMT
What are you all talking about I LOVE BRUSSEL SPROUTS,
I also love Mangoes and I too just partook of my first, had to wait while
the price came down a bit,  but Oh my God thank you for Mangoes

             Jean.

> 'Tis the start of Mango season here in the antipodes, and yesterday I had
> the pleasure and delight on consuming my first one for the season, and a
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>
> Yowie
 
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